Hamels Applesauce - Piazza a dad again, Adrian Gonzalez rumors rebuild, Hamels' struggles continue

by Joe Budd on Nov 1, 2009 11:19 AM EST in Applesauce Comment 44 comments

Meet the Mets

Congratulations to Mike Piazza and wife Alicia Rickter on the birth of their second child.

The Padres did not include Adrian Gonzalez's picture on their 2010 season ticket promotional materials. The trade rumor mill is swirling hard now.

Around the NL East

Cole Hamels continues to struggle for the Phillies. Hamels' suckiness has led some columnists to discourage Charlie Manuel from starting Hamels the rest of the way. One thing is for sure, Joe Blanton has a lot of pressure tonight.

The Good Phight criticizes the strike zone for AJ Burnett.

What will the Marlins do with Jeremy Hermida during the offseason?

Around MLB

For those of us who wish to see Bobby Valentine back with the Mets, his lack of job offers is some kind of encouraging news.

The Giants are bringing back Freddy Sanchez for $12 million.

Toronto's conflict with manager Cito Gaston seems to be clearing up.

David Wells plays the role of Jimmy Rollins: Yankees in 5.

Picture this: Alex Rodriguez as a centaur.

Howard Johnson comments on the World Series so far.

Boston is considering making Jason Bay a big offer for some reason.

With the Orioles cutting Melvin Mora, it's time to look back at his amazing career resurgence.

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That A-Rod story...

does he WANT people to laugh at him?

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Nov 1, 2009 12:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

The most damning thing

(if true) is he put it the one place where he can’t just play it off as a joke, irony, or hyperbole.

That said, how soon until we see the Three A-Rod Centaur Moon t-shirt?

phliadelphoe ite domum!

by Doc Manhattan on Nov 1, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Well, I know one thing

A-Rod is a jackass (think: double-meaning) and egotistical. Clearly, he’s unwittingly trying to convince us…

"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."

- Mr. B.V. Incognito

by sj10689 on Nov 1, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

A-rod

That is very interesting because, I know a chick that went out with Robby Alomar when he was in Cleveland, and she told me that Robby had painting of himself as a centaur over his bed……..weird.

by Coolpapabell on Nov 1, 2009 12:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

reading through the comments at Metsmerized

I think I just threw up in my mouth. They want to trade Beltran.

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Nov 1, 2009 1:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Thank god for Amazin Avenue

could you imagine trying to talk baseball on a site like that?

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Nov 1, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Holy Moly....

…. you’re right! My gosh what a bunch of kooks! Yeesh!!

"We praise or blame as one or the other affords more opportunity for exhibiting our power of judgment." Friedrich Nietzsche, "Human,All Too Human" (1878)

by wgarrett on Nov 1, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hey!!

What “kooky” posts have you seen here?

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Nov 1, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh....

… don’t get me started. LOL :-)

"We praise or blame as one or the other affords more opportunity for exhibiting our power of judgment." Friedrich Nietzsche, "Human,All Too Human" (1878)

by wgarrett on Nov 1, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

well

just read last night’s game thread and i’d say all those yankee gay jokes were pretty “kooky,” or at least “ugly.”

by letsgocyclones on Nov 1, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

After i typed that I wanted to add

“except mine,” but there’s no edit button.

And those, admittedly bad, posters were from a tired man who was still a little drunk

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Nov 1, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

glad you realize, and i'm sorry to seem self righteous

i will be really happy if everyone just cuts that shit out.

by letsgocyclones on Nov 1, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That was just because of the post at pinstripe ally

Picture of Wright how the mets choked, and one calling piazza a pussy when clemens threw that bat at him. I fucking hate yankee fans

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Nov 1, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

uh ok

but the ugly part is the gay bashing, not the yankee bashing.

by letsgocyclones on Nov 1, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, Yankee bashing is never ugly.

I hadn’t seen the thread, since I’ve been avoiding the WS like the plague. Even when they’re playing for the championship, Yankee fans can’t help but be insecure little bitches. Whichever city gets the parade, I’m hoping for a nor’easter that day.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Nov 1, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I didn't mean it as gay bashing

I was calling Arod/Jeter gay. I never meant to imply that I had a problem with gay people. I’m one of the more liberal people you’d ever meet, and I would never discriminate or demean anybody based on their sexual preference, race/nationality, sex or anything like that.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Nov 1, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The Point Is, I Think....

… if it hasn’t already been made clear, is that calling “Arod/Jeter” gay is using the term “gay” in a negative connotation. The connotation you are making is that being gay is a bad thing. You’re using “gay” as an insult. I don’t know if it can be considered “gay bashing” but your use of the term “gay” is in a way to insult A-Rod and Jeter, and it can be taken to mean that being gay is bad.

"We praise or blame as one or the other affords more opportunity for exhibiting our power of judgment." Friedrich Nietzsche, "Human,All Too Human" (1878)

by wgarrett on Nov 2, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

what the fuck?

What posts are here kooky? What blog do you belong too?

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Nov 1, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Well....

…. the whole “let’s try Daniel Murphy at 2B in the major leagues since he played a decent 1B” thing recently was, well, kooky, I’m sorry to say.

"We praise or blame as one or the other affords more opportunity for exhibiting our power of judgment." Friedrich Nietzsche, "Human,All Too Human" (1878)

by wgarrett on Nov 1, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It makes sense

in that, the season was over, Murphy is not going to be a first baseman on this team after 2010 (if he even is the first baseman in 2010) and if he shows he can play somewhat competently at second, it adds value if he become a bench player. Him playing second for a month in no way would have hurt the 2009 Mets.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Nov 1, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

See....

… what I mean? You’re kooky, Evan_S. If a player is not good at 1B, and Murphy wasn’t… oh man, no no no, I’m not going through this again.

Maybe I should go back to that other website and apologize to them.

"We praise or blame as one or the other affords more opportunity for exhibiting our power of judgment." Friedrich Nietzsche, "Human,All Too Human" (1878)

by wgarrett on Nov 1, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Wait

Murphy had the second highest UZR/150 in the NL, he was very good at first this year.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Nov 1, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It's not a new idea, either.

People had the same thought last off-season, before the Mets sent him to the AFL to play second base. In fact, given his excellent UZR at first this season, I’d say that there’s even more reason to try it than there was a year ago.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Nov 1, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

No, It's Not A New Idea....

… but, if you read this article, you’ll see one person who doesn’t think he can become a middle infielder:

http://www.amazinavenue.com/2009/8/17/991852/the-rise-and-fall-of-daniel-murphy?ref=yahoo

Wonder where I’ve seen this piece before?

"We praise or blame as one or the other affords more opportunity for exhibiting our power of judgment." Friedrich Nietzsche, "Human,All Too Human" (1878)

by wgarrett on Nov 2, 2009 9:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

You can't ue stats

stats are for lazy people

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Nov 1, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Not quite

Unless you’re a GM who takes Scott Boras’ portrayal of one-sided statistical propaganda at face value. I, of course, am calling out the reductio ad koufaxum or koufaxum ad nauseum, or whatever the hell it’s called.

HELLO HELLO MR. WILPON

"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."

- Mr. B.V. Incognito

by sj10689 on Nov 1, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

They also think that Santos and Francoeur are the type pf players we need to round out the roster with.

One of the guys that writes there thinks the Mets should DFA Murph because he’s not worth keeping at the league minimum.

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Schmidtxc on Nov 1, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

I love how one guy, advocating for Gonzalez trade obviously says:

Reyes
Wright
Beltran
Gonzalez
franceour (sic)

thats a very solid top 5

In what fucking world is Francoeur even 1/1000000 the player that Reyes, Wrigh, Beltran, and to a lesser extent Gonzalez is? How can any fan look at Francoeur and think he is of any value?

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Nov 1, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He brought youth, solid defense, energy, grit and a good offensie bat

and he looks like Beau Brummel (sic) all courtesy of Marty Noble

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Nov 1, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

he was once on the cover of Sports Illustrated

and called “the natural.” He’s awesome

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Nov 2, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Bay is a perfect fit in left for Boston.

He seems to have a decent arm but no range, which is actually an acceptable combo in left at Fenway (moreso than any other park). Most of the things that worry me about Bay here are certainly minimized in Fenway.

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Schmidtxc on Nov 1, 2009 1:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs