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why is Ryan Church
in that projection? along with half the other guys that aren’t currently tendered Met contracts.
CHONE projections are excellent
R.I.P. superstar David? No one with SLG>.500, please plan accordingly, Mets FO.
I think it's still early to say Wright is no longer a star
He’s had one bad season and this is still just a projection. It can’t account for everything.
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You should see the Cardinals
It’s basically Pujols. Our third best hitter hasn’t even played in the majors yet!
by vivaelpujols on Nov 15, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
SLG
I think maybe Chone is one of those projection engines that regresses everyone heavily. Nobody on the Red Sox is projected to have SLG > .500 either, for instance, and Holliday and Branyan are the only free agents projected to reach that level (not Bay).
ummmm Ryan Church?
I think that sums up that projection site
by Scent of a Woman on Nov 15, 2009 9:08 PM EST reply actions
I don't buy all of these.
I usually like to see a handful of projection systems, and then I’ll make my conclusions about the players.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
If that all comes to pass, I might cry a little bit, and not in the good way...
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 15, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions
who saw the word Chone and immediately thought "Figgins"
*raises hand
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
Hand
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 15, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
Sean Smith, the man behind the Chone projections, is an Angels fan
He named the projection system after Figgins, sorta like PECOTA being named after Bill Pecota.
by James Kannengieser on Nov 15, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
It has Reyes only playing 127 games
what is it basing that on?
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The Mets medical staff?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
CHONE is a pretty simple regression model applied to just about ever cat right?
So its probably just an accounting of how many games he missed this year into the projection. I’m not as big a fan of the CHONE projections overall as some of the others, but it does work really well for players who have been on a pretty consistent health/performance plane for a while.
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What a fool I was to defy him"
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by Mark Himmelstein on Nov 16, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
well, they do if his overall production is scaled down.
So some counting stats could be faulty.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
So which projection is the best?
James, Chone, Marcel, Pecota? Am I forgetting one?
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Depends
Marcel is a simple regression based projection system that is “so easy a monkey can do it.” Basically it just takes weighted average of the past three years, applies regression to the mean and uses age factors. Thus, it really shouldn’t be better than other projection systems but rather used as a benchmark. There’s a number of articles that try to determine which projection system is “the best,” but as with most “the best” arguments, there’s subjectitivty involved. I like looking at all of them, just keep in mind James seems to always have a higher total offensive enviroment than the other projection systems thus making his pitcher projections look worse and batter look better so mental adjustments must be made.































