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why is Ryan Church

in that projection? along with half the other guys that aren’t currently tendered Met contracts.

by RIPShea on Nov 15, 2009 8:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

CHONE projections are excellent

R.I.P. superstar David? No one with SLG>.500, please plan accordingly, Mets FO.

by Sam Page on Nov 15, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think it's still early to say Wright is no longer a star

He’s had one bad season and this is still just a projection. It can’t account for everything.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Nov 15, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You should see the Cardinals

It’s basically Pujols. Our third best hitter hasn’t even played in the majors yet!

by vivaelpujols on Nov 15, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

SLG

I think maybe Chone is one of those projection engines that regresses everyone heavily. Nobody on the Red Sox is projected to have SLG > .500 either, for instance, and Holliday and Branyan are the only free agents projected to reach that level (not Bay).

by JoshNY on Nov 16, 2009 8:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ummmm Ryan Church?

I think that sums up that projection site

by Scent of a Woman on Nov 15, 2009 9:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Chone are pretty accurate

it’s just a registry error, most of it is automatic

by Sam Page on Nov 15, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't buy all of these.

I usually like to see a handful of projection systems, and then I’ll make my conclusions about the players.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Nov 15, 2009 9:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If that all comes to pass, I might cry a little bit, and not in the good way...

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 15, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

who saw the word Chone and immediately thought "Figgins"

*raises hand

"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner

by metsguy234 on Nov 15, 2009 10:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hand

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 15, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sean Smith, the man behind the Chone projections, is an Angels fan

He named the projection system after Figgins, sorta like PECOTA being named after Bill Pecota.

by James Kannengieser on Nov 15, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It has Reyes only playing 127 games

what is it basing that on?

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Nov 16, 2009 12:02 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

The Mets medical staff?

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Nov 16, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

CHONE is a pretty simple regression model applied to just about ever cat right?

So its probably just an accounting of how many games he missed this year into the projection. I’m not as big a fan of the CHONE projections overall as some of the others, but it does work really well for players who have been on a pretty consistent health/performance plane for a while.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Meddler on Nov 16, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well, they do if his overall production is scaled down.

So some counting stats could be faulty.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Nov 16, 2009 12:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So which projection is the best?

James, Chone, Marcel, Pecota? Am I forgetting one?

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Nov 16, 2009 6:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Depends

Marcel is a simple regression based projection system that is “so easy a monkey can do it.” Basically it just takes weighted average of the past three years, applies regression to the mean and uses age factors. Thus, it really shouldn’t be better than other projection systems but rather used as a benchmark. There’s a number of articles that try to determine which projection system is “the best,” but as with most “the best” arguments, there’s subjectitivty involved. I like looking at all of them, just keep in mind James seems to always have a higher total offensive enviroment than the other projection systems thus making his pitcher projections look worse and batter look better so mental adjustments must be made.

by Sokojoe on Nov 16, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs


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