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Is it really that tough to play in New York?

Jim B. from metsmerized thinks so. I was looking through their side chat and saw this insightful comment from the aforementioned commenter. "Joey Votto had a break down last yr after the death of his father, idk if he could handle NY" Apparently playing in New York is as hard on a player mentally as losing a person who loved and raised you from when you were born. Do these people actually understand some of the stuff they say?

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I have no idea what he's trying to say

But it sounds ridiculous.

But that being said I do think it’s tougher to play in NY just because of the ridiculousness of the NY media. Most cities embrace their stars NY just seems to want to tear them down, unless you’re Derek Jeter then you’re infallible. I mean there’s no reason Wright and Reyes shouldn’t be loved the way the Jones boys were in Atlanta for years but instead the NY media wants to trade them every chance they get.

by Gina on Nov 18, 2009 8:52 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

It's not the same as losing your father,

but the pressure of playing in New York seems intense. The heavy media concentration, sports talk radio, and the constant expectation to succeed seems to weigh on players. Not to mention how vicious the fans and media get when players fail – look how everyone treats Beltran for one strikeout.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Nov 18, 2009 9:10 PM EST reply actions  

But that hasn't effected Beltran's performance

I just think it’s ridiculous to say someone can’t play in New York because he was emotionally drained after his father died. The man was grieving and because he took time out to do so, he doesn’t have the mental fortitude to play in NY. I believe people have the right to be upset after a loved one passes.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Nov 18, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely they do.

Like I said, they’re not the same thing. Anyone could be forgiven for breaking down when they lose a parent.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Nov 18, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

i do kinda wonder

what pro ballplayers in kansas city do on a friday night. here there’s vip shit up the wazoo.

by Pack Bringley on Nov 18, 2009 9:26 PM EST reply actions  

Warcraft?

Per Zack Greinke. Also, a night on the town with Disco Hayes sounds fun.

by James Kannengieser on Nov 18, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if AA's (me included) love for Disco Hayes

is relatively unusual. How many other not-really-top prospects of organisations have attracted an immediate following from fans of other teams based on interviews and blogs alone!?

by deadspy3 on Nov 19, 2009 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

it's fucking Disco Hayes, man

The universe is his fan.

Can we please trade for him and instantly demote him to Brooklyn? I’d be so happy.

by Pack Bringley on Nov 19, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I already joined his "universal" fan page on Facebook, lol

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 19, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I would like that very much. Moore pitched a no-hitter? That's nice. We want Disco.

And, they could have a Disco Night promotion! Don’t know exactly what that would mean, but…

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 19, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

it's also his name

that’s just about the best name ever

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Nov 19, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

It's the media who typically says it's tough to play in NY because of the media

which sounds very self-indulgent, and therefore I’m skeptical.

I think it could just as well be easier. I’d rather play meaningful games in front of fans who care as opposed to meaningless games in half-empty stadiums.

by DoghouseBlues on Nov 18, 2009 11:03 PM EST reply actions  

Wow, this really makes no sense at all

Yeah, being expected to play baseball well is exactly the same as losing your father at the age of 25.

by JoshNY on Nov 19, 2009 11:09 AM EST reply actions  

I wrote an article

over at MetsGeek about this topic last March. Gordon Edes compared Venezuelans booing Maggs for supporting alleged dictator Hugo Chavez to something Frankie would have to deal with in NY "if the Mets stumbled." I love NYC, we have every right to be boastful but sometimes this kind of stuff gets embarrassingly arrogant.

by Sokojoe on Nov 19, 2009 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

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