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Gonzalez over Davis?


If the Mets could somehow pull off a trade for Adrian Gonzalez,  would the community here be willing to do so if it meant blocking Ike Davis? Or is Gonzalez, and whatever prospects a trade for him would require absolutely worth it?   Keep in mind that there would be no guarantee we would keep Gonzalez past 2011, as he might certainly be willing to test free agency.  Seems to be a lot of support for Davis, and I'm curious how deep that runs.

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I think you have to do that with an already established star.

And besides, Davis could always move to right field or whatever. However, it depends what we’re giving up to get him, more than anything. If it’s a very good deal for us, blocking Davis isn’t a big deal. If we’re giving up a good deal to get him, I’d prefer to work in other positions that seem less set…aka Holliday in LF, seeing how he would only cost money.

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by squid92 on Nov 2, 2009 11:30 PM EST reply actions  

If Gonzalez could be had for cheap they would have to get him

It would be a great move that would help the 2010 team compete with the Phillies and Braves next season.

An interesting possibility would have Davis play RF in 2011 with Gonzalez at first. Then after the 2011 off-season they could let Gonzalez go to get the draft picks and then move Davis to 1B. Davis could probably handle playing the outfield for the next couple years, but I think eventually he will get to big to play the OF (he is currently 6-5, 195 lbs). Has anyone heard anything about Davis’ defense at both 1st and in the OF?

That said, I hope Omar doesn’t try to trade for Gonzalez because I do not trust him to make a smart trade. He should just get Holliday since he “only” costs money and a 2nd round pick.

by boom_roasted on Nov 3, 2009 1:03 AM EST reply actions  

The wrap on Davis defensively

Is that he’s a solid athlete with below average speed, but not a leadfoot. One thing I’ve heard is that scouts think his arm is a bit “wasted” at first base, since he was also a LHP in college and he has something of a cannon. But being a left hand thrower also helps with first base defense.

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by Mark Himmelstein on Nov 3, 2009 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

If you can get a solid proven All-Star caliber vet, you do it. Even if it means blocking a promising but still unknown commodity. We know how good Gonzalez is, but you never know how good Davis may or may not turn out.

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by sireric on Nov 3, 2009 9:10 AM EST reply actions  

Right. This exactly.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 3, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

But Gonzalez has only had one all star caliber season.

Before this year he’s never had a 4 WAR season. I would like to get him, but not at what he’ll cost.

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by Evan_S on Nov 3, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I would make the trade.

and I would also trade for Doc Halladay if given the chance.

by fxcarden on Nov 3, 2009 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

yeah

I agree with the guys here… if Gonzalez is getable, they you get him.

does SD have a good prospect waiting for 1b? I would think that if you are gonna trade for him then starting with Davis as an adequate replacement would be a great place to start.

by gbaked on Nov 3, 2009 12:56 PM EST reply actions  

I do NOT want the Mets to trade Ike

he can play the outfield and then slide over to first when Gonzalez is up. Davis seems like he might be our closest impact prospect, why give that up if you don’t have to?

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by cjmulrain on Nov 3, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

wouldnt the point be to lock

gonzalez up for the long term?

He is young and really awesome… why would we want him to leave?

you gotta give to get.

by gbaked on Nov 3, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Padres already have a 1B replacement in line

Top prospect Kyle Blanks has already spent time in the majors and is more-or-less ready to play every day. Ike Davis would not need to be included specifically.

by TheBigStapler on Nov 5, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I like how THAT sounds...

Oh, the butcher and the baker and the people on the street: wheredotheygo?!?!?

by CharlieH on Nov 6, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

fact is

there’s no guarantee you can lock him up…a guy that good and that young might want to test free agency, and any number of teams could swoop in and grab him

i’d still do it anyway, i just wanted to pose the question as i saw a lot of people very adamant about Ike Davis

by Rey-O on Nov 3, 2009 4:59 PM EST reply actions  

It's still a two-year rental

If we give up 2 or 3 of our best prospects, it’s just continuing the short-sightedness that has gotten us into trouble in the first place.

by DoghouseBlues on Nov 3, 2009 6:47 PM EST reply actions  

Agreeing with gbaked...

…You’d have to figure Ike would be included in any Gonzalez deal.

Oh, the butcher and the baker and the people on the street: wheredotheygo?!?!?

by CharlieH on Nov 4, 2009 3:37 PM EST reply actions  

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