to fill in the rotation, as if we didn’t have enough rotation problems, and you’re opening more questions in the outfield by moving F-mart. And I’d feel like moving Pelfrey means they’d have to bring in Lackey so I can’t see them bringing in Holliday/Bay too.

i feel offers like this one are severely misreading the value of cheap young players in baseball today. i mean pelfrey, davis, fmart & holt? i’d barely give 2 of those guy, let alone all 4, but maybe thats me.

i don’t want to sound like the prototypical dope who wants to give nothing and get everything but to me the issue here is that the industry has clearly shifted, valuing cost-controlled young players more than it ever has before. these are players that are years away from free agency and even arbitration. i’ve heard this, i’ve read this and most importantly i’ve seen it in some of the trades of superstars the last couple of seasons:

how else do you explain the white sox getting peavy without any elite prospects or established major leaguers? even better question, how did we get johan for that package? or look at holliday going to the A’s where they gave huston street coming off his worst season and talks of arm problems, carlos gonzalez who has since surged but at the time had had a bad ’08 and was no longer considered an elite prospect and greg smith who has always been considered a back of the rotation guy at best.

people have said “adrian gonzalez is worth more in trades because of his relatively cheap salary” but that same fact didn’t stop the phillies from acquiring cliff lee for a bunch of decent prospects but nobody elite and certainly nobody established in the majors.

the aforementioned package for gonzelez not only surpasses any of those actual deals but it blows them clear out of the water which to me indicates that we’ve got to re-evaluate what teams value and understand that before we go throwing away our entire system.

huh? They have one of the top 3 all-around first basemen in baseball – if they’re just gonna get him to DH, why not get someone who’s not a good fielder that can be acquired a lot cheaper?

I’m still not over the fact that the Marlins traded him for Ugueth Urbina less than a week after we traded Armando Benitez (the better pitcher at the time) to the Yankees for a turd sandwich platter. Was that Phillips or Duquette?

Let’s throw in Wright and Mejia.