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I've decided that my outlook this year is to almost completely ignoring improving our lineup itself in any way and focus on improving our team's athleticism and fielding. Also I'm steering away from  negotiating for Jon Lackey.

 

So here's the Plan:

For our outfield: Obviously trade Francoeur, and start Pagan in rleft. After that I'd head after one of Mike Cameron or Mark Derosa; whichever one would jump at a 2 year, $16 million deal with  third year club option (based around Abreu's 2 year $19 million one). Worst case scenario we give it to Marlon Byrd. Backing up the outfield will be the immortal Endy Chavez, who will sign for 1 year at 1 million.

For first base: I'd be interested in just keeping a Daniel Murphy/Fernando Tatis platoon. They're both ample 1Bs and I still believe in Murph. It's a decent solution and cost effective as well.

For second base: Obviously find a taker for Luis. I don't really care who or for what. Let's just say Snyder because it seems like a reasonable solution for both teams. Then, I'd see if Placido Polanco would be interested a 2 year, $10-$12 million contract. If not then I'd look into Omar Infante or Jamey Carroll for a reduced price.

For shortstop: Obviously Jose will still be around, but we need to get an effective backup. My interest lies in Adam Everett.

For catcher: With Snyder, Santos and Thole I don't see the need to add any more players.

Starting pitchers: I'd obviously like to keep Santana and Pelfrey around in the rotation, but the other three spots are up for grabs, IMHO. I'd look into signing Randy Wolf, preferably for more money and less years than most other pitchers: 2 years, $24 million. After that I'd bring back Livan. Yeah, that's right. Can't argue with his 4.44 FIP. I'd sign him to a 1 year $1 million deal. I'd keep Maine and sign Brian Burris to a minor league deal.

For the Bullpen: I'd keep Rodriguez, Parnell, Green, Feliciano, Stokes, Nieve and Perez. I'd try and snag Paulino in a trade and then demote Nieve, but otherwise I think that core is perfectly fine.

The 25th man: Craig Counsell. Sign him. Not only is he hilarious to see hit, he ain't so bad either (.336 wOBA last year), plus, he's a masterfull 2B and 3B, with some decent experience at SS as well.

 

So our lineup would be:

SS Reyes

2B Polanco/Carroll/Infante

3B Wright

CF Beltran

LF Pagan

RF: Cameron/DeRosa/Byrd

1B Murphy/Tatis

C Snyder/Santos

(Pitcher)

 

Rotation:

Santana (3.60 FIP, 3.30 tRA)

Wolf (4.20 FIP, 4.30 tRA)

Pelfrey (4.30 FIP, 4.80 tRA)

Maine (4.50 FIP, 5.10 tRA)

Hernandez (4.50 FIP, 5.70 tRA)

 

Bullpen:


Rodriguez

Parnell

Green

Feliciano

Storks (or Socks, whoever's cheaper)

Nieve

Perez

 

Bench:

C Santos

1B/OF Tatis/Murphy

SS Everett

OF Chavez

IF Counsell

 

Waiting in the wings:

C Thole

OF Martinez

SP Niese

SP/RP Burris

SP/RP Figueroa

2B/SS Tejada

1B/OF Davis

RP Niesen

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Pagan?

Why on earth would you want to trade Francouer? Pagan is powerless. If Pagan is starting, the Mets will have a hard time out doing the Nats.

by strawspoonage on Nov 22, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Because Francoeur sucks

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Nov 22, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

go back to Metsmerized

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Nov 23, 2009 6:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to just mention

Francoeur, in total, hit 15 HR last season, 5 in Atlanta, and 10 with us. Put that into context though: In a season where we don’t have massive injuries all over the place, is an outfielder who is otherwise detrimental when it comes to his hitting really worth 15 entire home runs?

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 23, 2009 9:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He only gave us 4 or 5 bad starts

and i attribute them to our defense. Not only do I love his FIP, he gave us 15 good starts until he had an odd breakdown.

by METSMETSMETS on Nov 22, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Trusting Livan's FIP is iffy

I think his tRA is a better indicator. He generally has a high LD% so his high BABIP’s don’t seem to be entirely a product of luck. Fangraphs WAR put him at 1.7 this year but Statcorner WAR (uses tRA) said 0.3.

by James Kannengieser on Nov 22, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd buy another pitcher

but good overall direction.

by Sam Page on Nov 22, 2009 2:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Question:

if a team has a +42.5 WAR, how many wins would they have?

by METSMETSMETS on Nov 22, 2009 3:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

hmm

Where is Nick Evans? Wouldn’t you rather have a Murphy/Evans platoon or just Murphy than a Murphy/Tatis platoon?

ain't had enough...

by BlackOps on Nov 22, 2009 7:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

eh.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Nov 22, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I still don't get the anti-Tatis sentiment

He’s had a 3.1 WAR in his term for the Mets which is a bit under 700 PAs, he’s been good with the bat this year and fantastic in 2008, he’s an able 1B and corner OF as well, and he’d be a solid righty complement to Murphy, better than Evans because Evans just sucks.

by METSMETSMETS on Nov 22, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If only we actually got to SEE Evans suck, you know...

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 22, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the problem with tatis

is that he hit into 9 double plays in 45 at bats at one point this season, which is the kind of shit that will stick with you through high school. that was the most brutal stretch i’d ever seen someone go through. not that it’s a valid reason to bust on someone, but that’s the first time i heard the “kill tatis” chants.

by Rey-O on Nov 22, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't hate Tatis.

He’s just not “good”. I’d be more than happy to have him back as a bench player next season. I just sorta quibble with him being someone we should sign to platoon at 1st base, when optimally we wouldn’t be needing him for too long.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Nov 22, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

True.

I’m just saying, going forward, there are more important spots to fill. But sure, if we can, resigning him is only a positive.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Nov 23, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

tejada waiting in the wings

not goin happen alot of teams would be prout to have him on the ML roster

by dbkoob on Nov 22, 2009 9:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i'd suggest researching our minor league prospects in a bit more depth.

as well as learning to spell.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Nov 22, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This plan r sux

We would need to sweeten that offer for Snyder or else we have him by now.
DeRosa athletic? When I think of athletic baseball players, he doesn’t exactly pop out at me. Cameron is, but is not worthy of corner OF.
Carroll and Infante as starters? please…
Livan again? no thanks
Why not just release Perez? You can’t bring almost a walk per inning out of the bullpen.
Overpaying for Wolf (and Livan really) and under-appreciating the market for Byrd.
I personally am ready to move on from Tatis, but he is not bad I guess.
I would not include Niesen on that list really, but I would add at least Nieuwenhuis and Havens

by astromets on Nov 24, 2009 2:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Niesen

was fantastic in the bullpen in AA for months. Nieuwenhuis and Havens have little experience past A+ ball.

Cameron has a case for the Hall of Fame. I’d say he’s worthy of the corner.

Carroll has only been given a starting job once and has been fantastic since 2006. Plus, they’re contingencies…..

by METSMETSMETS on Nov 24, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

mr. METSMETSMETS your idea is to basically create a team that has no chance of contending with the phillies in the 2010 season

by Mets25 on Nov 30, 2009 3:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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