The Real Problem With The Alex Cora Deal
Well we all knew this was coming; the writing was on the wall, and it read: "ELMER WUZ HERE." Out of resignation for the inevitable, I recounted the positives of Alex Cora--in short, plate discipline and the chance of non-embarrassing fielding. Many people will abuse his UZR/150 stats and refuse to recognize the role injury played in slowing his bat down, which is too bad--there are enough reasons to hate this signing, while giving Alex Cora his meager dues. Basically, he's a decent enough utility middle infielder, who should only start in emergencies, but worth a major league spot on the depth chart. Yes, that player should make league minimum or only slightly more. And while Cora could feasibly be worth $2M next year, he is basically all downside. Still, I said I wouldn't complain if the Mets signed him for $2M. But I didn't say anything about bonuses and vesting options.
Contract incentives are useful in three situations: 1. rewarding a franchise player, 2. enticing a highly sought-after free agent, or 3. mitigating against the risk of an injured player breaking down. Number 1 obviously doesn't apply and no one can possible convince me number 2 is true. Situation #3 works when you have a player like Rich Harden, whose value increases greatly with every 20 innings he gives you. If last season taught us anything, it's that the more we see Alex Cora, the more screwed we are. As an everyday starter last season, Cora was totally exposed, and his performance steadily got worse. The fact that the Mets could even foresee a situation where Alex Cora gets 80-110 starts, proves they are totally incapable of planning for the very real scenario of Jose Reyes' getting injured, and would be perfectly content to forfeit the season.
A 2 million dollar vesting option? Why do the Mets want to be committed to 35-year-old Alex Cora at any price, much less 2-mil? If Alex Cora starts 80+ games in 2010, it means one of two things: 1. Jose Reyes was injured for a prolonged period and the Mets were too incompetent to replace him, or 2. the Mets were too incompetent to sell high on Luis Castillo and he imploded. In either case, prior to 2011, a massive restructuring of the middle infield depth chart would be required, in which Jose Reyes could no longer be considered a starter, or a new secondbaseman would have to be signed. 35-year-old Alex Cora, with a guaranteed roster spot and $2MM salary, would be massive dead weight, and his contract would likely force the Mets to either release him and eat the money or give him partial playing time. Next offseason could be a heck of a mess for the new GM.
The defenders of this deal have harped on two tellingly stupid points: he's a great clubhouse guy and he won't prevent the Mets from signing other free agents. The second statement can easily be refuted by: yes he will! No, Alex Cora will probably not stop the Mets from signing Matt Holliday if they really want him, but if that's your conception of free agency and the Mets budget, then you're worse than Minaya. Three million is three million; or seven comparable players on league minimum; Omar Vizquel and Adam Everett; a handful of intriguing minor league free agents, like Ruben Gotay, a utility infielder better than Alex Cora; or every draft pick the Mets failed to sign last year.
His benefit to the clubhouse is all fine and good, and believe me, I'm the biggest sucker in the world for players who seem to have fun and energize his teammates. No one honestly believes that stuff is the real difference between a good team and a bad, though, do they? The one and only time I watched Mets Weekly (no SNY in TN), I remember the host prodding Cora with a painfully obvious line of questions about his role in the clubhouse, his relationship with Dustin Pedroia, etc.. It seemed as if she hoped Cora would rip the microphone out her hand, make some absurd statements confirming his importance to the team, and in one fell swoop assuage the collective fears of Mets fans whose subconsciouses were bothered by the nagging "maybe he's just bad." Instead, Cora made the truthful reply about how the self-assured Pedroia didn't really want to hear his crap at first, though they eventually formed a bond. Then, maybe a little conscious of what the host's questions insinuated about his skill, frankly said (and I'm not sure this is the exact quote), "I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to win ballgames." Another winning statement from a winning player! No one saw the irony.
But don't fret, compared to this negotiating gem, I think the worst is yet to come. Alex Cora is a decent enough bench piece caught in the crossfire of a team's continued violation of its fanbase's trust. I'm still waiting for the word on whether the Dessens money is guaranteed; I've got a wicked rant ready for that one.
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No more mentioning Bengie. For reals. It makes me sick every time I think about him.
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Dec 1, 2009 8:27 AM EST reply actions
Let's hope that the incentives for play time don't mean that the upper levels of the organization know something about Reyes that we don't know...That's scarier than Cora's contract...
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 1, 2009 9:13 AM EST reply actions
I have to think...
That if the Mets thought there was a chance Cora would play that many games, they wouldn’t include the option.
Oh wait, we’re talking about Minaya here. You’re probably right
by Bieser's Balk on Dec 1, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Even scarier
is the fact that, in the face of something potentially seriously wrong with Reyes, Alex Cora is the way they’re choosing to go.
Maybe it means
That they feel extremely confident that Reyes is healthy and they were chortling to themselves as they worked out the contract, because the notion that Cora could hit 80 games is absurd?
I’m grasping at straws here.
It’s so depressing. Will they even notice the widespread incredulity that in one day they announced contracts for two players that those players could not get from any other team? In effing NOVEMBER? I think it’s possible they won’t notice it. With Spiegel in the Times, for example, the story is all about Cora’s “leadership” in the clubhouse.
so, what are you saying...
that w/o the option clause they would have guaranteed him more than $2M for the year?!
by ThnkGoodnessforHowieRose on Dec 1, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
mets move up to 3rd place in nl east
looks like reyes health is still questionable and castillo will be at 2b in 2010 or for as long as he remains off the dl./ upcoming upgrades molina , marquis and delgado. I can’t wait till apr.(sarcasm)
So if Jose or Luis gets hurt
not only do we get to watch the terrible Alex Cora, but we get to watch him again in 2011?
Omar, you sly dog.
or at least pay 2 million
to not watch him in 2011.
The worst part of this is it seems to mean if Castillo gets hurt this year we’re not going to replace him next year, or at least Cora will just automatically be our 2nd basemen for 2011.
oliver perez part deux
once again, omar gives into a player’s demands even though there’s no indication any other MLB team would have met the player’s demands. who else would give cora $2 million plus incentives plus a vesting option for playing time? ok, maybe dayton moore.
This deal makes me sick
This is the type of player you sign at the end of the off season when you are looking to fill out your roster. This should no be the first “significant” move of the free agency period.
I'm not bothered by this move
Cora is not a player that should be shown the door after last season. There is a long list of players that should be traded(LOL), Released, Waived, Punted, ETC….Way before Cora. I like him as a backup to short, Second and third. So he will get more playing time than the avg bench player. Is Adam Everett a better option? Yes but perhaps there is a reason behind them wanting Cora. This isn’t the signing to hang Omar for good and its getting way too much attention here.
Elmer Dessens, on the other hand, is a different issue altogether.
we're not saying kick Cora to the curb
he performed admirably in WAY more play time than he ever should have been forced into. But that doesn’t change that he’s not worth 2 million and a vested option for 2011. I would have been ok with them giving him maybe 500-600k for a year as a utility guy, but we could have gotten more for less as far as backups go given the contract Cora has been offered.
by KeithsMoustache on Dec 1, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Agree that the 2 mil is excessive
But to play devils advocate, maybe Cora had a starters deal on the table for similar money? LOL….ok.ok…..ok..I kid…they overpaid but it really doesn’t mean a whole lot in the long run. If the option doesn’t vest then big deal right?
But that's still like over $1 million that they just wasted for no reason.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
This is par for the course with the mets no matter who the GM is
On the flip side of that is if Reyes turns out to be a different, injury prone player, will Omar get the pats on the back for saving millions there? The only way that million matters is if Minaya says he has a limited budget. If that is the case then it doesn’t make sense but if they spend then Cora’s deal becomes what it really is…small.
Oh, Jesus Christ
If they think Reyes is going to be an issue, they should be killing themselves to find a better back-up than Cora (which, they could find somebody better for less money, but if they think we need someone to split time with Reyes, they should be spending real money on real ability). Cora cannot be our shortstop. Oh, man, I just want to cry.
In all honesty, we have to wait and see with Reyes
There really is no guarantee that he’s going to be the same player although the odds say he will be. Like I said, Everett was a better option but I’m not wounded by Alex Cora getting 2 mil. You can’t sign a shortstop that can start in this league and tell him he can play IF Reyes gets/remains injured. If your not going to get Everett then your going to compete with the Red Sox to find a FA starting SS? Rueben Gotay is not an option in that spot just because he’s cheaper.
"Will Omar get the pats on the back for saving millions there?"
Bringing Cora back is fine, but this deal that Omar made is in no way a good deal, whether Jose can play the whole season or not. It encapsulates everything frustrating about the way Omar builds a team.
I don't see how what happens with Reyes matters
signing Cora because they think Reyes is injury prone is probably worse than signing him because they’re just bad with numbers. the more games he has to play at short the least value he is. There are plenty of short stops who can’t start in the league who would still be better options than Cora. Awful Reyes would likely even be a better option just because of his defense.
How is that really saving millions?
There are still plenty of cheaper better ss options to take over for Cora. Cora is awful defensively at short and has no bat, so it’s not like we’re gaining something over having to buy a min league short stop mid season.
At short stop he is
At second base he’s average, but as far as I can tell you’re talking about short stop.
uh, numbers say differently.
And frankly, I’ll take numbers and most people on this site over you.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
if he had starters deals on the table let him take them
problem solved. There were plenty of other capable utility infielders available. If the option doesn’t vest they’re still overpaying him for his one year of service. If all goes well it won’t vest, but we all know better than to assume all will go well around here.
by KeithsMoustache on Dec 1, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
I agree and being bad at math in one signing isn't a big deal
But when you’re bad at math for 4-6 signings, like Omar typically is, it becomes an issue.
Is there a reason behind wanting him for 2 million?
And giving him that vesting option, if Castillo/Reyes miss that many games again shouldn’t we be looking for permanent replacements for those positions? Rather than handing Cora another 2 million?
I don't think anyone can answer why they overpaid
The question remains is this the kind of deal that warrants this much scrutiny? The only reason in my mind is that there aren’t any other moves happening with the Mets. Coste is ok, Dessens should be glue and shouldn’t be pitching anymore but these are really small moves. Omar is not gonna get smacked around for the extra mil he gave Alex Cora. Its not that big a deal to me.
the cora signing emphasizes the cluelessness of the front office
that’s why it’s a big deal to smart fans like ourselves.
Ok Smart fan
Alex Cora is overpaid. Now since Reyes right now is an unknown, tell me what starting shortstop, meaning he played over 100 games at short last year, comes to the mets as the shortstop in waiting instead of actually starting for the red sox who is in every shortstops ear and would rather put Pedroia at short then pay the guys out there. Clearly Cora was overpaid but outside Adam Everett who else fits?
cora isn't the only backup shortstop on the market
adam everett, craig counsell, or nick green would provide equal or better production than cora and would probably have less contractual demands.
btw
i didn’t mean anything by using the term “smart fans.” i just meant the people who comment here are generally well-informed. of course you can disagree with the consensus opinion on the site and still be well-informed.
Tug Hulett FTW!
He’s takin the Red Sox all the way.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Dec 1, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
True indeed.
However if you have added a power bat to LF or 1st Base and a #2 starter and Reyes goes down after 60 games. Cora isn’t going to destroy the lineup.
I think it's more because
the front office pays 2 million for Cora, 2 million for Redding and then cries broke when someone like Bobby Abreu suddenly hits the market for 5 million or Randy Wolf for 8. They overpay early in the off-season and then when the market collapses and there are deals to be had there’s no money left to make them.
by Gina on Dec 1, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Just for example if we get outbid for Lackey or Holliday for 2 million
Like we did for Lowe last year, doesn’t this overpay suddenly make a difference?
Getting outbid for Lackey or Holliday will not come down 2 million bucks
The Mets didn’t get outbid for Lowe. The didn’t want to offer what Lowe wanted but it wasn’t like they couldn’t afford it.
What about Abreu?
Every report that came out said the mets were interested in Abreu but couldn’t afford to pay him more than 3 million.
and how do you know it won't come down to 2 million bucks?
That’s about the difference between the Yankees offer and the Red Sox last offer to Tex.
Holliday or Lackey
The Wilpons are not going to miss one of hem for $2mil.
As for last season we all quipped and moaned about losing Derek Lowe, anyone want him now? Omar made the right move not giving him 4 years and now the Braves are shopping his expensive old ass around. Yeah Ollie sucks, but we needed that #3 starter.
by scott from peekskill on Dec 1, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
And Ollie isn't that #3 starter, either.
He’s barely a #5 right now.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Dec 1, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
Curious
While I cannot argue the value the Cora had in the clubhouse (since Im obviously not in there) with the lackadaisical play and lack of hustle late in the season, what kind of impact can this guy really have? If management cant keep players motivated what can Alex Cora do?
Im just having a hard time justifying this signing based on these “intangibles” he is praised for by the FO and the media because, no offense to you Alex, but $2 million is too much to pay a bench player when Adam Everett and Co are still on the market. We’ve basically set the market price for bench players now when this move was rushed for no reason that I know of. Of course of course its speculation but I didnt see a run on utility infielders
$2mil
Is a boat load of $$$$ to yell “hustle your ass” in the clubhouse. I’d do it for half that.
by scott from peekskill on Dec 1, 2009 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly.
By all accounts the Mets quit towards the end of the season. If Cora’s intangibles had tangibility, isn’t that when we would have seen them? Er…

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