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Around SBN: My First Fight: Diego Sanchez

OMAR'S  WORK




Should be questioned the last three years.  Fixing last years problems.  Time to think forwardly  and shrewdly.

Implement a real plan to improve the club.  Not just try to do a patch up!!  Step number one should be to improve

the bullpen. Sign MIKE GONZALEZ AND KEVIN GREGG,  step number two is  trade for JUSTIN MORNEAU or

CARLOS PENA  and then sign JOHN LACKEY, and improve the bench, JUAN URIBE and L. NIX would do that.

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Um...

First off, your master plan does not involve signing or trading for a LF or C

Second, there is no way in hell Minnesota will trade Morneau, and I doubt Tampa would trade Pena.

Third, Gregg sucks.

Fourth, this really wasn’t well thought out at all

by Syler on Dec 11, 2009 9:56 PM EST reply actions  

To get Justin Morneau

You have to clutch it from the Twins’ cold dead hands. In other words, it’s not happening. Besides, we CANNOT trade away our farm system, because that’s who the Twins would look to target, and even then, it’s a long shot!

Before we start talking about trading for Lincecum, Pujols, et al., let’s stick to reality first.

"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."

- Mr. B.V. Incognito

by sj10689 on Dec 15, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

SYLER

F-MART and PAGAN at left, and at c, THOLE, SANTOS, and BLANCO.

by 1969met on Dec 11, 2009 10:03 PM EST reply actions  

THERE IS A REPLY FUNCTION

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Dec 12, 2009 6:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks, firejerrynow

Partially due to the lukewarm reception of this post, henceforth, I will make a better effort to come up with a home run next time! I did’nt realize that AA readers can be simultaneously critical and passionate.

by 1969met on Dec 12, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah seriously he basically said

" I didn’t realize you guys liked in depth plans and not shouting players’ names."

Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.

by Bobby Baseball on Dec 13, 2009 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

At first blush, this kind of reads like haiku.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Dec 11, 2009 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

1969MET

learn how to punctuate names (example: John Smith, not JOHN SMITH) also learn some more about baseball.

Come back once you’ve done that

A "Zeile" for avoiding outs

by metsguy234 on Dec 11, 2009 11:54 PM EST reply actions  

ouch

you just got insulted by a debatedly borderline racist 14 year old.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Dec 12, 2009 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I would rather trade for ALBERT PUJOLS than JUSTIN MORNEAU

also this post is just begging for the SITE BOT

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Dec 12, 2009 12:27 AM EST reply actions  

What's the SITE BOT?

Is it some legendary poster who shows up out of the mist and shreds someone, or disappears them?

by SeanSchirmer on Dec 13, 2009 4:55 AM EST up reply actions  

It was originally a robot, I believe

but it did become a cognitive being. The SITE BOT shows up to label terrible posts and inform us what not to do.

"I see the job in bigger terms. Paperwork, that’s false hustle... Know what I’m sayin’?"

by Evan_S on Dec 13, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

LOUD NOISES

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Dec 12, 2009 1:17 AM EST reply actions  

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!

If there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.

by meigs1414 on Dec 12, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

at no point in n your rambling incoherent nonsense did you approach an actual point

we are all dumber for having heard this… i award you no points and may god have mercy on your sould.

by KeithsMoustache on Dec 12, 2009 2:08 AM EST reply actions  

no matter how many times it's invoked

that phrase never stops amusing me

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Dec 12, 2009 6:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I hate to go all third grade on you, but...

"Sign MIKE GONZALEZ AND KEVIN GREGG, step number two is trade for JUSTIN MORNEAU

CARLOS PENA and then sign JOHN LACKEY, and improve the bench, JUAN URIBE and L. NIX would do that…"

… is a run-on sentence.

"For $11.4 million you can actually get a good player. But of course this is one of the things foolish organizations do: They complain that they can't afford good players after spending millions of dollars on not-good players." --Rob Neyer

by boom_roasted on Dec 12, 2009 2:09 AM EST reply actions  

And I'm wasted right now...

No amount of alcohol can change the fact that I have a better grasp on English grammar than you do.

"For $11.4 million you can actually get a good player. But of course this is one of the things foolish organizations do: They complain that they can't afford good players after spending millions of dollars on not-good players." --Rob Neyer

by boom_roasted on Dec 12, 2009 2:19 AM EST up reply actions  

or if you want to go even further

parallelism in from step number two is bad
like step number two is trading for justin morneau and carlos pena, signing john lackey, and improving the bench
and besides step number two is like 3 steps and step number one actually is a step

by clip on Dec 12, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

If this should even be a post

it should be a Fanshot.

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Dec 12, 2009 6:29 AM EST reply actions  

By the way, to play baseball you need a catcher and a left fielder

are you gonna put Murphy in left now?

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Dec 12, 2009 6:30 AM EST reply actions  

Who do you think we should trade for Morneau?

BECAUSE DANIEL MURPHY AND OMIR SANTOS ISN’T GOING TO CUT IT.

Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.

by Bobby Baseball on Dec 12, 2009 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

Of course it will. Danny Murphy is the new John Olerud, and Omir Santos is the next Johnny Bench.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 12, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh duh silly me.

Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.

by Bobby Baseball on Dec 12, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Why are we so fanatical about diction

I certainly feel AA is one of the best sites out there no matter the team or the sport. This is enhanced by the comments of contributors and regular schmo’s like us. Some of the comments by guys like KeithsMoustache are epically good.

However, that being said, and not wanting to put too fine a point on it, taking a long view with a holistic approach and without getting to close to the thin edge of the wedge; some here might be viewed as being slight too harsh in their criticism of their fellow commentators work.

All I ask is that you remember your first contribution before eviscerating someone’s work due to bad grammar, rhetorical run on, hyperbole, vitriolic enthusiasms, etc.

All i ask is for is a kinder gentler AA.

by scott from peekskill on Dec 12, 2009 11:38 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

oh come on

this is terrible. grow a thicker skin. it’s not even you.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Dec 12, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

If the poster had presented a coherent plan, and backed it up with some numbers

we wouldn’t be nearly so critical. The issue here is that no time, thought, or effort seems to go into this post. This site is a great platform to express your thoughts on the Mets in a manner that will induce conversation about a topic. If we’re not harsh on posters who aren’t willing to put in the time to present arguments in this way, the site will end up flooded with posts like those from the legendary centerpede1o1, wolfman/navyman, scotty, and so on. While these are occasionally amusing (sometimes bordering on hilarious), they are not really in the proper spirit of AA. Ultimately it comes down to us trying to defend one of the few places on the internet where you can discuss the mets with a rational group of people.

On an unrelated note, I’m glad you enjoy my commentary.

by KeithsMoustache on Dec 12, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh and

Yes you are 100% right, this is a great place to talk Mets without the homers and Jeterians, rednecks Phuck Phaces etc. This is a dreadful post, but at least the guy is posting.

Thats the strength of AA. People will write crapola, we will read it then comment on it. But if people shoot down the crap posts then posters won’t write and we will have nothing to read.

I like these terrible post occasionally, just occasionally, we see one good idea.

Should be a Fanshot.

by scott from peekskill on Dec 12, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

"But if people shoot down the crap posts then posters won’t write and we will have nothing to read."

Or, alternatively, people will be less inclined to post inane drivel. What’s wrong with having standards?

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Dec 12, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly

i’d be lying if i said i didn’t have fun with the occasional crap post but if we let them go unchecked this place will descend into madness

by KeithsMoustache on Dec 12, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

wait

this isn’t a tweet from Heyman?

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Dec 12, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

scott from peekskill

awsomedudeyou’reabsolutelyrightoriswrighton!

by 1969met on Dec 14, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I LOVE YOUR POST!!!!1111

THE ONLY THING IS THAT YOU SHOULD NOT DOUBLE SPACE IT! THIS ISN’T MICROSOFT WORKS SO DOUBLE SPACING ISN’T NECESSARY! ALSO, WHY THE HELL WOULD WE WAN’T GREGG AND URIBE???

Beer is good! And stuff!

by R_Adragna on Dec 12, 2009 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

ALSO, METS1969 SHOULD STOP SHOUTING

AND WHO WOULD WE TRADE FOR GONZALEZ/MOURNEAU? WHY DON’T WE TRADE FOR MAUER AT THE SAME TIME AND PUJOLS

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Dec 12, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

REYES AND WRIGHT AND BELTRAN AND SANTANA

THEY AREN’T THAT GOOD ANYWAY

Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.

by Bobby Baseball on Dec 12, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

PLUS WE NEED TO ANHILATE THE CORE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T WON A WORLD SERIES WITH IT YET

Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.

by Bobby Baseball on Dec 12, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

reply to firejerrynow

firejerrynow, Gonzalez is Mike, a free agent. Morneau is making 80 mil, Minny has interest in
trading him to free up money for Mauer. How about Holt, F-Mart, Francouer, Parnell and Murphy…………………….

by 1969met on Dec 12, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

We won't fleece the twins twice

Anyway, thats way too much.

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Dec 13, 2009 6:50 AM EST up reply actions  

thanks, R_Adranga

Gregg and Uribe, junk on the bench, but better than the junk already there. As for the double
spacing??? Just something different. The idea is to try to get the Mets to a CHAMPIONSHIP
level and we all know Omar’s work is cut out for him.

by 1969met on Dec 12, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

you mean a CHAMPTIONSHIP?

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Dec 12, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

again whats with the random CAPITALIZATION?

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Dec 13, 2009 6:51 AM EST up reply actions  

thz plan haz 1 fatal flaw

it does not have any LANCE BROADWAY.

end transmission

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Dec 12, 2009 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

LMAO

you know what I'm sayin' ?

by fxcarden on Dec 12, 2009 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

the Metz have just gone

off Broadway.

they cut his ass.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Dec 12, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

A great time to cut him, when he was actually starting to improve somewhat...

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 13, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

1969Met, it has to be done like this...

MIKE GONZALEZ (+0.9 WAR – 2009)
KEVIN GREGG (-0.3 WAR – 2009)

JUSTIN MORNEAU (4 projWAR)
or
CARLOS PENA (3.6 projWAR)

JOHN LACKEY (4 projWAR)
JUAN URIBE (2.9 WAR – 2009)
L. NIX (+1 WAR – 2009)

That should cut down on some of the public pillorying. Although lacking UZR/150, the slashing of your tires will probably continue.

BTW, welcome to AA! ;-)

by Mex_17 on Dec 12, 2009 11:39 PM EST reply actions  

we accept people if they don't use WAR or UZR

but the grammar, punctuation, lack of ideas…

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Dec 13, 2009 6:52 AM EST up reply actions  

JUAN URIBE (2.9 WAR – 2009)

Really? i didn’t realize this dude was that good.

by scott from peekskill on Dec 13, 2009 12:35 AM EST reply actions  

Uribe is good defensively at second and third

3.5 UZR, 1 UZR respectively, and also had a career high .351 wOBA, mainly fueled by his .330 BABIP, 40 points above average

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Dec 13, 2009 6:56 AM EST up reply actions  

So is it a one year blip

or is this guy a serious player long term?

And why hasn’t his name crossed John Krucks lips? Oh, thats right, Kruck is useless.

by scott from peekskill on Dec 13, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

stats ARE substance

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Dec 14, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Only if you're one of those guys that, you know, use "stats" to make important decisions off of.

Stats change every year, though, you know. So, uh…We feel, you know, there’s, uh, no reason to invest so heavily in interpreting and, you know, understanding them.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 14, 2009 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

no?!?

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Dec 14, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

one nugget in alot of bad ideas

Terrible ideas all, except for one. I love the idea of the Mets getting Mike Gonzalez to join the “bridge” to Frankie. Having two lefty set-up guys like Pedro AND Gonzalez would be incredible, and would give all those lefties on the Phillies fits!

by TomSeaver on Dec 13, 2009 1:15 PM EST reply actions  

It would be even better if they somehow unload BB-Rod...

Then sign Gonzalez, Calero, and Capps to replace him. Plus maybe some other reliever acquired by trading away Rodriguez.

"For $11.4 million you can actually get a good player. But of course this is one of the things foolish organizations do: They complain that they can't afford good players after spending millions of dollars on not-good players." --Rob Neyer

by boom_roasted on Dec 13, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

As opposed to K-Rod and his awesomeness, right?

SAVEZ

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Dec 13, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

So is Mike Gonzalez

And any pitcher you regularly put in during the 9th inning when you have a lead.

"I see the job in bigger terms. Paperwork, that’s false hustle... Know what I’m sayin’?"

by Evan_S on Dec 13, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

But Capps is the homer monster. he makes K-Rod look like a good pitcher.

by scott from peekskill on Dec 13, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

thats fair

but I’d love him as just a regular reliever.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Dec 13, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

We need a set-up guy, so...

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 13, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

It's weird...

Capps has had high HR/FB ratios in 2006 and 2009 (12.2% and 13.5% respectively) but low rates in 2007-2008 (4.4%, 6.8%)

"For $11.4 million you can actually get a good player. But of course this is one of the things foolish organizations do: They complain that they can't afford good players after spending millions of dollars on not-good players." --Rob Neyer

by boom_roasted on Dec 13, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

i can't define it for you

but i know one when i see one

A "Zeile" for avoiding outs

by metsguy234 on Dec 13, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it one who has a steadily declining strikeout rate

while simultaneously having an increasing walk rate? Or is it a pitcher who has the most blown saves in baseball over the last three years? I’m getting close, aren’t I?

"I see the job in bigger terms. Paperwork, that’s false hustle... Know what I’m sayin’?"

by Evan_S on Dec 13, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

True closers definitley fall down as part of their delivery, putting them in a superior defensive position.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 13, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

That comment should be flagged..

for Omar Minaya-like “scout” arrogance.

"For $11.4 million you can actually get a good player. But of course this is one of the things foolish organizations do: They complain that they can't afford good players after spending millions of dollars on not-good players." --Rob Neyer

by boom_roasted on Dec 13, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

But I have more important things to do

than waste a half second of my life pressing a button.

"For $11.4 million you can actually get a good player. But of course this is one of the things foolish organizations do: They complain that they can't afford good players after spending millions of dollars on not-good players." --Rob Neyer

by boom_roasted on Dec 13, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

well THAT makes me trust your judgment.

uh, not.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Dec 14, 2009 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd

you know what I'm sayin' ?

by fxcarden on Dec 14, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

so they're an obscenity?

I can get behind that.

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Dec 14, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

reply fail

this was meant for Metsguy’s reply

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Dec 14, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

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