They're mad cause I hit a home run and put my finger up. In the playoffs, Victorino did the same thing!
Jose Reyes on WFAN this afternoon with Mike Francesa. This is just one of dozens of great quotes from Jose during the interview, he really aced it. How can any Mets fan not love him? For more, check out Metsblog's live-blog of the interview.
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Jose is the man
Can’t wait to listen to this. I feel bad the Mets feel compelled to subject him to someone as insufferable as Francesa, but Jose killed this interview.
AA ♥ 7
the number one issue facing the Mets is finding that one guy who’s going to say "get on my shoulders and ride me to the championship."
by Sokojoe on Dec 16, 2009 4:18 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
"How can any Mets fan not love him?"
Duh. He smiles too much.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Dec 16, 2009 4:20 PM EST reply actions
Hopefully Alex Cora
will burn some sense into him with a two million dollar frown machine
Travis Hafner is made of gold
hahaha i think thats a great name for Cora
the two million dollar frown machine
by KeithsMoustache on Dec 16, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, "Mr. Reyes", it's different
Victorino is a WINNER and GRITTY. You are a CHOKER, who has no GRIT.
Mets didn't make the playoffs...
…as you may know, in 2008, the year of that controversy.
It was some regular season game, not the playoffs.
Maybe those games against the Phils feel like the playoffs to the Mets?
by EastFallowfield on Dec 16, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm
you may have forgotten that Victorino showboated earlier in the game. Jose then hit a 3 run HR and stared down victorino while rounding the bases. EFF, you have been a dousche for a long time, why do you come here and make an ass of yourself even more so? Go hang with Clout and Sophist
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 16, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Oh please
At least Jose Reyes doesn’t go crashing into infielders to exploit rules loopholes when the opponent executes a good play and deflecting throws from the outfield when he’s on the basepaths.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Dec 18, 2009 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
and Reyes doesn't call balls and strikes from center fucking field.
Seriously, how can no one see that Torino’s is the world’s largest douche?
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Torino is passionate
reyes has too much fun, because he’s impassionate
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
I’m studying for my last final so was only able to read Cerrone’s transcript of it. I’ll listen later on. Absolutely love Jose, seems like he nailed it. He actually got me excited for 2010 even with the crap this is currently going on (or not going on) this off-season. I completely forgot how much fun it is when he is playing.
Same
I had forgotten how exciting it was every time he got up to bat. Anything could happen!
Travis Hafner is made of gold
completely agree
"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even knew existed."
-Casey Stengel
by He'sGotPotential on Dec 16, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
"He says he has no interest in changing who he is."
Good.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Dec 16, 2009 4:27 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
This is proof
that, although I hate to admit it still, that firing Willie Randolph really needed to be done after all. However, the execution of his firing was ill-advised (2:15 AM in Omar’s hotel room in Anaheim, after Willie unnecessarily made a trip to California – I believe Tony B was Omar’s courier to Willie to make a trip to Omar’s, post-haste).
"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."
- Mr. B.V. Incognito
It depresses me to no end
that so many people hate Jose. I don’t know what that says about New York or America in general, but it’s really just nonsense.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Dec 16, 2009 4:31 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
right on brother
I forgot who said it here (maybe it was you cjmulrain) that watching Reyes play baseball is one of the true joys of being a Met fan. Anybody who wants to tamper or dilute that is crazy in my view. He is 25 years old, still a baby in baseball terms and still has great upside. To even think of giving up or trading this guy is as foolish as you can get. And Kudos for calling out Victorino.
Also it looks as if the Mets are sticking to their story (and by having Reyes repeat it, doubling down) that it was the Dodgers misdiagnosing the orginal injury as a calf injury that lead to all the problems. Considering that the Mets keep pushing this and I have yet to hear any strong rebuttal from the Dodgers camp, I am starting to wonder if there may be something to this.
I remember this from the game.
I remember I had a few questions as to why they didnt have the Mets doctors examine him at the time. I thought it was bizarre that the Mets would have their young, superstar player examined by another team’s doctors.
by aparkermarshall on Dec 16, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
Burned!
Make that a double-burn, if Jose went to see the Phillies’ team doctors.
The Mets medical staff were probably hired for cheap from outsourced areas, and never set foot in anything resembling a “Medical School”.
If you were to ask them what Adrenaline (Epinephrine) was, they’d probably blurt out “steroids!” in a clamor, like those investors from Wall St. And then, to stymie them, if you were to tell them that we all produce adrenaline, then they would assume all baseball players were on steroids! Classic example I just mentioned here.
"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."
- Mr. B.V. Incognito
I thought it was bizarre, too.
I can see having another team’s doc take a look at the player if you’re on the road and it might be a matter of getting the right treatment immediately. But after that? As soon as you get your player home don’t you have him start a treatment plan immediately with the doctors that know him best?
by SeanSchirmer on Dec 17, 2009 4:25 AM EST up reply actions
just reading the transcript of this interveiw had a calming effect
the mets may not be great next year, but at least we should have Jose back, and that gives us something to watch every game regardless of record.
by KeithsMoustache on Dec 16, 2009 4:34 PM EST reply actions
Jose is my favorite player since Fonzie.
It completely boggles my mind that he is disliked by a segment of our fanbase.
he just kinda comes off a bit arrogant here
a 4th place team has no place for that
A "Zeile" for avoiding outs
I have so many mean things I want to say to you right now
but I’m gonna bite my tongue (or fingers, I guess, this being the internet and all)
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Dec 16, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
but a 14 year old kid does??
do you shave yet?
EX(freaking)ACTLY!
"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."
- Mr. B.V. Incognito
Do not fear metsguy
Alex Cora and the 2 million dollar frown machine will rip the arrogance out of him, they will be insecure and antsy in 4th place just the way we like em’
Travis Hafner is made of gold
actually no
cora sucks
i want a shortstop with the talent of reyes and the mentality of cora
A "Zeile" for avoiding outs
god forbid someone is both good at thier job
AND loves doing it
by KeithsMoustache on Dec 16, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
To be fair . . .
I’m good at my job (so they tell me), but I can’t stand it. I generally have a very serious look on my face. This is just the way it should be.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Dec 16, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
sure if you cant stand it i dont expect you to smile and laugh
but if you did, its not like it would make you worse at your job (unless you were the 2 million dollar frown machine, in which case there are incentive-based ramifications for your actions)
by KeithsMoustache on Dec 16, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
But then,
You’re a lawyer and he’s a professional athlete. When people want to criticize a professional athlete who has a serious attitude, they say he plays a game for a living and he should look like he’s having fun, but when they want to criticize a professional athlete who has a lighthearted attitude, they say he’s not taking his job seriously enough. Neither one has anything to do with how well the guy does his job, they’re just things people choose to pick on.
Guess my sarcasm didn't come through so well.
It happens.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Dec 16, 2009 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
Nah, it did
I mainly just used your post to segue into the other point I wanted to make, which is that people will criticize players who they want to criticize.
Cora probably doesn't know any good jokes.
That’s why he comes off all serious.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Dec 16, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
he's not the two million dollar joke machine
by KeithsMoustache on Dec 16, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
Touche.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Dec 16, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
It's fitting
that Joe Kings does what he does best.
Cora, I’m sure, doesn’t translate into “Core” – that, he is NOT.
"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."
- Mr. B.V. Incognito
The gritty Joe Kings would have said:
They’re mad cause I hit a home run and put my middle finger up. In the playoffs, Victorino did the same thing when Matsui had hit a HR!
And he would be celebrated for saying that.
by Michkin on Dec 17, 2009 7:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I can’t believe how little I would enjoy being a baseball fan if I had this attitude towards someone like Jose.
by True Blue4 on Dec 16, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
metsguy cant wait until baseball games are just simulated by computers instead of played
and the human element is removed.
by KeithsMoustache on Dec 16, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
For all the hate stat heads receive with this sentiment
Did you ever notice how its the old school guys who like watching emotionless robots play.
by aparkermarshall on Dec 16, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
you have an old school mentality towards baseball
by aparkermarshall on Dec 16, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
hmmm
would being born with an incredible amount of natural talent and smiling way too much = douchion (the opposite of grission)
talent is the antithesis of grission
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
by Gina on Dec 17, 2009 1:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well said
Using video games as an example, in a fighter, a talented player pushes the right buttons in sequence. A grissiony player just mashes them without restraint. It can be quite painful to watch, especially when the grissiony one loses (throws down and breaks game controller)
"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."
- Mr. B.V. Incognito
exactly, i havent been 14 in over a decade
being 14 is old school
by KeithsMoustache on Dec 16, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
When I grow up...
I hope to be eternally 14. And live in the late 60’s, due to the Miracle Mets and the awesome rock music. Thats old school.
My dog is 13...she's old school
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Dec 16, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
and
you just reminded me that its been a decade for me too. I feel so old…
meh the 20's have been kind to me so far
can’t complain too much.
by KeithsMoustache on Dec 16, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
same here
but I fear 30, since it would mean I was closer to 40, and I doubt I’ll make it to 50 before I’m just sitting on the front porch in a rocking chair yelling at youngins to get off my lawn…
On the other hand, I plan to stay young by staying in school for as long as possible.
30 is no big deal.
I had a rad 30 — backpacked around Europe for a month, hit Vegas two or three times, went to Oktoberfest in Munich . . . no complaints about that year. 31 has been good so far, too.
In sum: Fuck it, Dude. Let’s go bowling.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Dec 16, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
When i turned 20
I freaked out cause I knew I was only a decade away from 30, I still prefer not to think about it.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
20 sucked
you’re not a teen anymore, but you can’t drink. You should be able to skip right from 19 to 21.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
I don't know where you're from
but where I live, I pretty sure the drinking age is 13 or something. Maybe “legally” it’s 21, but it doesn’t seem to stop kids from drinking.
"I see the job in bigger terms. Paperwork, that’s false hustle... Know what I’m sayin’?"
haha
yea, I guess I phrased that wrong. You’re not allowed to drink legally. And when you’re the last of your friends to turn 21 and you spend most of the first semester of your senior year hanging out with juniors and sophomores b/c all your friends are at the bar, it kinda blows.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
Good luck with that.
I’m getting close to 30, and I can’t stop thinking about all the shit I haven’t done with my life.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Dec 17, 2009 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
tell me about it
you could fill a novel with the shit i havent done.
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
And if 'write a novel' is one of those things,
that’s one right there!
by BobbyV_Incognito on Dec 20, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
It shows.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 16, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
Or whiny redasses like Paul O'Neill.
There are a few emotions you’re allowed to express, and all of them involved indicating you’re pissed off.
by SeanSchirmer on Dec 17, 2009 4:29 AM EST up reply actions
being a robot doesnt mean you are emotionless
robocop had plenty of emotion for being half man, half machine, as evidenced by his desire for his friends to call him murphy.
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
And how Bender cared for Fry
After he’d say “Kill all humans,” he’d always whisper, “except one.” Fry was that one.
"I see the job in bigger terms. Paperwork, that’s false hustle... Know what I’m sayin’?"
by your standards
were Mickey Mantle and Ken Griffey Jr. also douches?
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
don't forget Ozzie Smith
the guy did flips on the field, and smiled all the time… what a crappy ball player he was
by KeithsMoustache on Dec 16, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
ah, good one
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
Oh good lord
Can you imagine the uproar if Jose did an actual flip on the field?
Don't get me wrong.
I’m okay with Mays saying “hey” all the time, I suppose. I’m just saying that he would have come off a lot more professionally if he said “hello.”
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Dec 16, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
It would have improved his overall game, too.
by SeanSchirmer on Dec 17, 2009 4:30 AM EST up reply actions
Hey--as good a place as any to talk about Reyes' HOF chances.
What do y’all think he’ll need to make it?
According to FanGraphs his career WAR is already 21.4. Offhand doesn’t a WAR around 60 give you a good shot at making the Hall? Jose is 26. He’s had four full seasons. His three partial seasons add up to one full one. I have to believe that if he repeats his performance to date twice more he’d be just about a lock. That would give him a line of
Games 2373
PAs 10953
Runs 1653
Hits 2880
RBIs 975
SB 903/225
BA .286
OPS+ 101
Fielding + 27 UZR
That’s overqualified for an above average fielding SS. The hits, runs and stolen bases would put him in the upper echelon of shortstops. So maybe his career to date another one and a half times would do it.
by SeanSchirmer on Dec 17, 2009 4:40 AM EST up reply actions
If their careers continue as they've played so far, both Wright and Reyes are getting in.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 17, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think so, especially regarding Reyes
Reyes could be the all time greatest shortstop, but people would still say, he never quite lived up to his potential.
"I see the job in bigger terms. Paperwork, that’s false hustle... Know what I’m sayin’?"
Mickey Mantle never lived up to his potential (and legitimatley so, with his knee problems).
Not living up to your potential =/= being a HoF-caliber player. If he puts up the proper numbers, what is left to to have an actual, legitimate argument against it?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 17, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
That was meant to be sarcastic, because so many people act like Reyes isn't a superstar right now
"I see the job in bigger terms. Paperwork, that’s false hustle... Know what I’m sayin’?"
Reyes hasn't put up a season as good as Jeter's best seasons,
but his average season seems a little better than Jeter’s average season. That’s a HOFer if Reyes can keep it up for another five years then fill in with another five years of mediocrity.
by SeanSchirmer on Dec 19, 2009 6:38 AM EST up reply actions
the rest of us don't make annoying, crappy comments like a douche
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
When Cora plays, and Reyes doesn't, the stats tell us that the Mets are more apt to lose.
Therefore, Cora not “joking around like a douche” makes the team worse. If he really was a “team player”, he’d do that, being as that when Jose Reyes is “joking around like a douche”, the team wins more often.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 16, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe
Cora doesn’t care about playing to win – he does it for the money. But Reyes really does want to play, and it shows.
Cora is like “let’s get this sh*t over with – I want to go home and get me a Mercedes or something”
Reyes is like “Let’s get this sh*t started – I want to go home after I steal me some bases. Hell, I’ll steal home if I can!” (Now, that’s badass.)
"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."
- Mr. B.V. Incognito
Why is it necessarily sarcasm (and therefore, untrue)?
Cora, the only reason he signed with us is because we gave him the most money. Reyes, he signed extensions in which he’s paid a lot less than he is actually worth, choosing to stick with the team. Cora playing for the money, and Reyes playing for the ability to play the game makes sense when looking at the facts.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 17, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
That would just be Reyes under the "tutelage" of Cora
Which is what my comment inferred, though sarcastically
Travis Hafner is made of gold
I think I actually figured it out
metsguy234 is actually the LA doctor who claimed Reyes only had a calf injury. He is like baseball’s version of Doogie Howser. That is how he knows so much about injuries and how you can play through them if you are gritty enough.
Babe Ruth was always joking and laughing
Too bad. If he had only looked serious all the time, he could’ve lived up to his potential.
you never can say something nice about him can you?
Leave Jose alone, you racist 14 year old
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Dec 16, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
the racist 14 year old who constantly defends k-rod
who loved delgado, who thinks beltran is awesome
yeah… so racist
A "Zeile" for avoiding outs
i can do the same thing
you guys are all racist for not liking jeff francoeur
A "Zeile" for avoiding outs
That really only works if folks had been complaining about how there are too many white people on the Mets,
much like you previously complained about there being too many Latino players on the Mets.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Dec 16, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, and I'm white
so me hating Francoeur isn’t racist.
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Dec 16, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
self-loathing white man
no, but seriously – white people suck at sports.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
you know what I'm sayin'?
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
"Uhh" is still availible.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 16, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
Should have copy-writed it!
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
Dammit!
It’s all in your signature, and everything. Something tells me “Travis Hafner is made of gold” will not be something said on here enough for me to have copy-writed it
Travis Hafner is made of gold
Look at mine
"I see the job in bigger terms. Paperwork, that’s false hustle... Know what I’m sayin’?"
BriScal is his own ethnicity
a seven foot tall ginger italian is pretty unique
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
I used to be able to
college + law school has not been friendly to my body, however.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
swear, and I'm white as they come
I’m exactly half-English/half-Irish descent.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
I once had a 3 week stretch where I could dunk
My athletic peak. It was glorious.
by James Kannengieser on Dec 17, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
yeah bro, check this out
the only thing i ever dunked was a donut.
LOLS UP TOP, YEAH!
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
who posted
This glory post.
Yeah, racist.
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Dec 16, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think he's racist
He simply has no idea what he’s talking about. When he defended his ignorant post from a few days ago, he called everyone else “holier-than-thou”. Now he’s saying Reyes is arrogant for smiling and laughing, just because the Mets weren’t champtions last year. Makes no sense.
Yup
He’s 14, he repeats what the people in his neighborhood are saying. I don’t think he’s actually racist, he just hasn’t yet learned to think very critically about what he hears.
Meh
I would think that someone who posts on here as often as he does would at least make an effort to understand. most 12-15 year old sports fans I know act like that at first on message boards but usually try to make an effort to understand more complex lines of thinking.
See my post
here. And the posts that precede it as well. metsguy234 gets really defensive when called a “racist”. But, I merely use that against him for the sake of manipulation rather than in fervent pursuit. It’s so damned easy playing Devil’s Advocate against him when one draws the “race card”!
metsguy234 allows himself to be attached to strings, and then tries to fight back, only to get caught in more strings. Like, in a spider web of sorts. It’s kind of sad, when one thinks of it. Control = pity.
"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."
- Mr. B.V. Incognito
no squid
He is 14. His brain literally has not yet full developed. Let us not stoop to his level by saying something harsh. He is a foolish kid, that’s all, no more and no less.
When you're a perrenial All-Star, you have the right to be arrogant.
Oddly enough, Reyes is not being arrogant. You’re being a moron, though.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 16, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
What surprises me...
is that I haven’t seen any comparisons between Jose Reyes and Lastings Milledge.
Arrogance aside, though, Reyes is just having a good time. And if that helps him to do better, then let’s have it! When Willie was at the helm, Reyes struggled for this particular reason, or lack thereof. But when Willie went bye-bye, the Jose Reyes of “old” came back. Proof that his input is needed.
In conclusion, saying that you hate Reyes for his liveliness is almost like saying that you want him to struggle. Yeah, yeah, you can bring out the lessons in coping behaviors and all that, but why bother? It’s a waste of time!
"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."
- Mr. B.V. Incognito
Well, I wouldn't say that Reyes struggled under Willie.
He had an excellent 2006 and 2007 (and a pretty good 2005).
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 17, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
If history has any say in this,
it’s that metsguy234 has a long and reputed history of “hating” on Jose Reyes. Like here, for instance. And here. I could go on, but I’m feeling anti-vindictive at this minute.
"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."
- Mr. B.V. Incognito
in related news
why do comments close in everything after a set period of time?
A "Zeile" for avoiding outs
That "Least Favorite Met" thread was deleted, I think.
I suppose game threads close because there’s always another within a couple of days.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Dec 17, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
This is awesome
My man-crush on Jose has been renewed.
Jose is absolutely right that he used to hammer Jon Lieber – 1.357 OPS against him in 28 plate appearances is the best against any pitcher against whom he has more than 20, though he’s had almost as much success against Kyle Davies in the same number of PA. He’s also done very well against Matt Cain (1.861 OPS in 17 PA) and namesake Jo-Jo Reyes (2.633 OPS in 10 PA).
On the other side, he’s 0-17 in 17 PA against AJ Burnett, and also 0-11 in 11 PA against (huh?) Chan Ho Park.
I am so very ready
… to fall back in fan-love with this kid.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Dec 16, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
I can't wait until the Mets win a World Series with Reyes
and the media stories change from “arrogant player who doesn’t care about winning” back to “incredibly talented player who just loves to play baseball”
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Dec 16, 2009 5:01 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
nah
Jimmy Rollins used to get heat for “dogging it” back in the day. Then the Phillies won and now he’s so gritty they serve him at Waffle House.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
No, it will be somewhat anti-climatic
They’ll credit the brilliant smarts of the Minaya Administration and his Front Office cabinet. The difference here is that Tony B (the Mets’ version of Dick Cheney) will be out of the picture.
"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."
- Mr. B.V. Incognito
God willing
im worried we’ll accidently win one despite Omar’s failings and he’ll get a ten year extension, plus it will reaffirm his idea that stats are false hustle.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
that would really bother you?
I wouldn’t give a crap, so long as they actually won a World Series
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
Yes
because with a core like the resources we have, and the general lack of smart teams+teams with matching resources in the NL, unlike the AL, we could be the red sox/yankees of the NL and instead of hoping to accidentally win one every 10-30 years actually have a legit chance of winning multiple ones a decade.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
I still wouldn't give a crap
I just want them to win one.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Dec 17, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
for example
2006 – 5 extra wins would have made these last few years a quadrillion times more bearable.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
It would have made the last few years better
but how about 2010,2011,2012,2013,2014 when we trade Wright for Derek Jeter, cause God knows he’ll still be playing, cause Jeters a winner and we need a ss anyway cause we let Reyes walk cause he didn’t take the game seriously enough.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
I wouldn't care
I just want the Mets to win the World Series. I don’t care if they do it with 15 David Ecksteins and 10 Ollie Perez’s and the rest of MLB comes down with the Swine Flu.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
One question:
How much of a winner would Jeter be in Kansas City???
I'd be happy if they MADE IT to a WS.
Winning one is a crapshoot, and would be a bonus.
you know what I'm sayin' ?
I loved how he said
“Ball hit David Wright in Head” He said it so passively.
----Warner----
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by Scent of a Woman on Dec 16, 2009 6:08 PM EST reply actions
I was watching a screening
of the movie Invictus the other night, and there’s a great scene where the crowd starts chanting “Ole, Ole, Ole,” and it got me fired up for the Mets season, because it’s been so long since we’ve heard the “Jose” chant. It will be nice to see him playing again, and that first “Jose Jose Jose” chant of the season will be pretty sweet (no matter how bad the rest of the team is).
Nowhere to go but UP, I like to say
The Mets of 2010 just have to be better! Right?
"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."
- Mr. B.V. Incognito
Is it possible to have MORE injuries?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 17, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Not on our team, anyway.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 17, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
I just saw the entire interview from the YES network
Awesome. You can’t really appreciate just the audio. You have to see the body language.
Welcome back Jose.
Oh, and good job by Francesa.
you know what I'm sayin' ?
I didn't really need any more reasons to love him
but I don’t mind them. From being comfortable enough with himself to know he doesn’t need to change who he is, to talking about wanting to be more patient at the plate, he’s an awesome person and an awesome player and fuck anyone who says otherwise, because they’re just ignorant.
And I can’t say the word ignorant without including this http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/154561
That is funny
Because I think of that clip every time I use the word “ignorant”. And yet, ironically, it’s ignorance that makes the world go not ’round, but flat. (inside reference)
"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."
- Mr. B.V. Incognito
I don't know what it was about this interview, but I feel like all of the bad stuff from the hot stove so far has dissolved.
I for one cannot wait for Reyes to have a monster season.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 16, 2009 7:46 PM EST reply actions
Jose Reyes may have lost a few battles
but he will ultimately win the WAR, in the end.
"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."
- Mr. B.V. Incognito
yeah nice
they also need to fight to survive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqDFMksMg-8
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
The best part of the interview was the end
Where he called Fatcessa “papa”
Yeah, his having been injured in the general leg area before, and then coming back and posting All-Star numbers really have no bearing on anything.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 16, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
yep, you're an unbiased and totally reliable 14 year old source.
I’ll trust YOUR opinion.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Is that where Silva's been getting his info?
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Dec 16, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
You're right
he won’t be the same, he’ll be better, because he is just reaching his prime now. It’s gonna be sweet.
douchion = -(grission)
No, no
metsguy234 is right. Jose Reyes will not be the same… he will be BETTER.
"The picture looked like I was in the dugout, but they got it all wrong. I absolutely was never in the dugout."
- Mr. B.V. Incognito
Good For Jose
Most Mets fans not on AA are idiots.Jose is one of the best SS in baseball he deserves to be respected
DO WHAT JOSE REYES DO!!!
People who want Reyes traded can never answer the question: Who is going to replace him such that output at short does not dimish sufficiently that whatever pick-up was made in trading him is negated.
None of them can ever answer. Hanley Ramirez is the only short stop who is genuinely better than Reyes. Other All-Star, marquee names, only a few of them are, questionably, as good, or better than Reyes- Tulo in Colorado, Rollins in Philly…
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 17, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
lol @ Rollins
even healthy he’s barely half the player Reyes is right now, and he’s declining fast.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
Actually guys, i've thought about it, and the Reyes detractors are totally right
When Reyes smiles while running the bases, his mouth is slightly open. This increases the surface area exposed to air while running (the entirety of the inside of his mouth is now exposed), which increases air drag on his face. As a direct consequence Reyes has to expend more energy to maintain a lower speed than he could optimally reach. Since he wastes so much energy on face-drag, he is tired and less effective later in games (And thus percieved as lazy). If he would stop smiling he would run faster AND be more energetic late in games. in conclusion Jose Reyes’ smiling is holding him back from his true potential, and until he stops doing it, we’ll just have to settle for less than his best.
by KeithsMoustache on Dec 18, 2009 11:40 AM EST reply actions
Reyes in 2010
It’s hard to predict what will happen after missing most all of 2009. We definitely need him 95% healthy for 95% of the games next year to be successful.
When your game is mostly speed-based, I don’t get a warm fuzzy feeling after trying to play with a hamstring tear for months (thanks Mets), then having off-season surgery to re-attach it, or crochet it, or whatever it is they do with a knife and thread and muscle.
But he’s young, so hopefully a fast healer. Still, anyone who isn’t concerned about his legs in 2010 is whistling past the graveyard.
There's also the fact
the medical staff apparently abandoned the training regime he’d been on since 04 that was keeping him healthy.
Why this happened no one knows.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
They wanted to balance his humours instead.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Dec 18, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
It's an old-timey thing
Sort of akin to using leaches. Although that’s new again.
It's a really old-timey thing.
From medieval ‘medicine’, as it were. Essentially, they believed that the human body had four basic substances which needed to be balanced in order to maintain health: black bile, yellow bile, phlegm, and blood. If you got sick, it was because your humors were imbalanced. In other words, we employed a group of bass-ackwards medieval butchers for a medical staff last year. Leeches might actually have been a step forward for them, since there is a proven medical use for them.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Dec 18, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Now that I understand
i loled
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
yup looks like somebody has too much blood
we’ll just drain you a bit and fix you right up.. I think they may also resort to phrenology
by KeithsMoustache on Dec 19, 2009 1:37 AM EST up reply actions
I've been hoping for a phrenology revival for years
by James Kannengieser on Dec 19, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
its going to be a bumpy road to bring it back
by KeithsMoustache on Dec 19, 2009 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
you do what you gotta do to stay ahead of the game.
TOUCHDOWN, JOKES!
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
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