Some 3 AM Jose Reyes Appreciation
It's a sad state of affairs when the ranking of the top Mets moments of 2009 goes something like this:
1. Omir Santos's 9th inning home run off Jonathan Papelbon to beat the Red Sox
2. David Wright's 9th inning home run off Ryan Madson to beat the Phillies
3. Jose Reyes's WFAN interview
4. That time Jeremy Reed hit a single
I'll take any victories with this Mets organization, no matter how small, and the Reyes interview was one of them. Something about the interview made me giddy, a rare feeling. Maybe it was the confidence Reyes projected in answering Mike Francesa's questions. Maybe it was the baseball intelligence he demonstrated by discussing the importance of drawing walks (you listening, new face of the franchise?) and how his numbers stack up vs. other shortstops. Maybe it was just nice to be distracted from work for an hour in my cubicle. It was pleasing to see so many other fans share these sentiments and support the longest tenured Met who is still just 26(!) years old. It's a really cheesy thing to say, but life as a Mets fan is better when Jose Reyes is around.
Jose is not my favorite Met - that title belongs to Carlos Beltran. But there is no Met I root harder for than Jose, if that makes sense. There's something satisfying about watching a born and bred Met play like a superstar, as he did from 2006-2008. Jose hinted that he is very aware of how the fans view him and I almost wish he wasn't. It's this foolishly negative perception that may have driven him too hard to try to come back this season from injury. Hopefully on Opening Day 2010 he will be regaled with a standing ovation to kick off what is ideally another All-Star caliber season. If there's any reason to buy tickets next season, it's Jose Reyes.
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What I'm really worried about is whether or not this "perception" drives Jose away.
In a couple of years, he’s free agent material. And honestly, if I were him, I’d test the waters. But, of course, I hope he doesn’t.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
hopefully whoever the GM is
signs him to an extension.
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Dec 18, 2009 6:08 AM EST up reply actions
i'd just like to
see him play a full f*** season.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
What, you missed 2005-2008?
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Dec 18, 2009 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
I laugh when people questions Reyes’ durability. It was one freaking year. Yes I know he was hurt earlier in his career, but that was 5 years ago.
by BigBoyJacobs on Dec 18, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
well then laugh it up Big Boy
but don’t let the Reyes luvfest here blind you to the significance of Jose’s injury problems; he still has to get back on the field. It’s not really a durability issue, but the odd nature of the injuries and the way the organization seems to deal with them that might choke your laughter.
And 2008 seems a long time ago. I was at the games in LA so perhaps I feel it more viscerally than most.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Dec 18, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
If you're talking about his most recent injuries, yes.
Jose’s injury problems last year were significant. I just wasn’t clear if you were referring just to that or the more general “Jose is always hurt” nonsense that folks started peddling after he got injured last year.
We all must fear the team doctors, though.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Dec 18, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
no i just want to see him on the field
on the f*** field. And will cross my fingers til July since he had surgery and we just don’t know. For instance, I had brain surgery and was never the same.
And the organization? They once taught him to run differently@!!
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Dec 18, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
See, metsguy234
Jose Reyes is aware of your perception. Leave Jose alone.
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
i'd leave him alone if he left me alone
he makes being a mets fan a lot worse then it needs to be
A "Zeile" for avoiding outs
Um...
… Do triples, inside-the-park-HRs and Matrix defense give you migraines or something?
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Dec 18, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
no
lack of hustle, durability, professionalism, and range all give me migraines
A "Zeile" for avoiding outs
lack of hustle?
DOUCHE
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Dec 18, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
The whole team
has seemingly had this issue. I know it isn’t a big deal in the vast scheme of things. Lots of teams have this “problem.” Reyes isn’t especially noteworthy for it. Wright got benched in September for nor running hard to home. Fernando didn’t run out that pop up.
Pretty endemic. But I hardly think its fair to Metsguy to call him a douche if he doesn’t like reyes because he doesn’t think he hustles. Saying he is so lazy he’ll be out of the league in a year is pretty trollish, but hey, I’d like to see all of them run out some balls (as long as they don’t risk injuring their multi-million dollar legs doing so).
I love watching Jose play, by the way. I have no problem with his professionalism. His fielding may need a little work, as it has slipped slightly. And like I said he doesn’t strike me as being especially noteworthy as a non-hustler. The team as a whole has had this issue, however, for a while. Bringing this up is certainly a non-starter on amazinaveneue, and I think metsguy is pushing that button.
i agree with the wobatus
and you should to!
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Dec 18, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
oh, and flagged
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Dec 18, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Can we flag things for stupidity?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 18, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
lack of durability?
4 of the last 5 seasons he’s played nearly everyday. You can’t really think he has a durability issues can you?
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
not really
but he has missed parts of 3 of 7 seasons with leg injuries, so there has to be some slight concern. He really seemed past it before 2009.
When your last 4 season prior to this were perfectly healthy, you chalk up one injury plagued year as bad luck until proven otherwise.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
14 and having migraines?
jesus, man, you should see a doctor.
i won’t even go into why you’re wrong in every single characteristic, because it’s been done like 2903 times for you.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Of all the things that makes being a mets fan suck
Jose Reyes is really what gets you the most?
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
you've stopped being funny.
it’s time for you to be banned, me thinks.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
yes
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Dec 18, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
No, we just, you know, enjoy scholarship.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 18, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
it's pro-intelligence
and maturity
and equality
etc.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
For not backing up your opinion with facts.
Like for instance, how can he have a lack of range when he’s consistently had above average range? And how can he not be durable when he played almost every game from 06-08?
"I see the job in bigger terms. Paperwork, that’s false hustle... Know what I’m sayin’?"
Against the Phils.
Same game where Church skee-balled a homer into the new Apple well. 50 points and a win!
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Dec 18, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
guys, it's sheer banal contrarianism
our fascination with metsguy is wounding this child.
by Pack Bringley on Dec 18, 2009 7:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHh
right. and robbie cano is a grinder huh? after his season last year do you think he is out by 2011? For being “lazy.” Obviously you haven’t appreciated wathing Jose’s pure awesomeness since 2006, but for a quick and dirty comparison some of BR’s most similar batters through age 26 are Rollins, Sandberg, Renteria and Larry Doyle. I guess HOF’s are lazy also.
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 18, 2009 8:07 AM EST up reply actions
you still didnt
answe my question bout cano
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 18, 2009 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
Just curious
what are your thoughts on Beltran, Santana, K-Rod, Delgado, Feliciano, Pagan, etc?
If you catch my drift.
Let's see
Beltran- great player, one of my favorites
Santana- great player, does lots of charity work, seems like a gamer on the field and a nice guy off it
K-Rod- good player
Delgado- great player, also does lots of charity work and seems like a really cool guy
Feliciano- good player
Pagan- very good young player, would love to see him remain with the Mets
A "Zeile" for avoiding outs
I don't particularly
enjoying watching lacrosse players either
Travis Hafner is made of gold
by Super Mario on Dec 18, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
And that attempt at a song wasn't lax?
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Dec 18, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
...
You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.
you'll be banned from this site
by opening day. Trollness doesn’t last long
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Dec 18, 2009 8:34 AM EST up reply actions
Flagged for trolling.
Even though you don’t like Reyes, this statement is just inane and inflammatory.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Dec 18, 2009 8:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
metsguy's special talent
is writing wacko comments that are brief, calm, and banal. He has a genius for it. He’s like a trolling yogi.
by Pack Bringley on Dec 18, 2009 9:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
rec'd for proper use of tools
and proper response. It bothers me that people respond to this guy when clearly he gets his jollies with getting 10 responses to an obvious, unoriginal ubflammatory comment.
the number one issue facing the Mets is finding that one guy who’s going to say "get on my shoulders and ride me to the championship."
I think 4) should be changed to
the time Jeremy Reed played first base and threw the ball into the next zipcode. That was hilarious.
I was at that game
I hate dodger fans
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 18, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
so was I
it was not hilarious.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Dec 18, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
don't forget that Jerry "pulled the goalie"
and brought Beltran in to play 2nd (!!!?) something I may never understand. Many other wondrous things happened that night too, if memory serves.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Dec 18, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
A bunch of stupid people; Don't deserve the team.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 18, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
Jose
should be allowed to do backflips around the bases when he hits a home run. I’m sick of this old school boring crap
by paulie1755 on Dec 18, 2009 10:02 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think you misread
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
My #2:
watching a guy from Georgia line into a game-ending unassisted triple play
I will remember that for a long time.
That play was worth it for the poem, though
“Bruntlett to Bruntlett to Bruntlett.”
Anyone see Mushnick in the post today?
Here’s what he wrote:
<<Jose, can you see?
Jose Reyes, 27 in June and a major leaguer since 2003, seems eager to sustain his reputation as a knucklehead. Reyes, in town on Wednesday, was seen on the YES simulcast of Mike Francesa’s radio show. Wearing a wool ski cap pulled down low, throughout the (indoor) studio interview, Reyes looked like a squeegee man who used to stand outside the Lincoln Tunnel.
Yeah, I know, you can’t judge books by their covers and clothes don’t make the man. But they can offer a pretty good clue. Is there no one — his agent, someone with the Mets — who can provide one of the team’s best known players with some basic social guidance, especially in public?>>
I know. I’m a troublemaker. Phil may be Metsguy’s grand-dad. :)
Is wearing a ski cap indoors that uncommon?
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
Is wearing a ski cap indoors uncommon?
I don’t know. Why doesn’t anyone ump over Lincecum for wearing them indoors, though?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 18, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
and would anyone think to compare Lincecum to a squeegee guy?
This is it in a nutshell.
Wait, hold on
The problem here is that he was wearing a wool hat during the interview?
Because, I mean, it was cold on Wednesday. And for all we know, the heat was broken in the YES studio, or Francesa keeps it cold, or something. The shit that people pick out to harp on is just ridiculous sometimes.
Fat people have layers of fat that protect them from the cold. Slim players don't have that protection.
he's slim
and, ya know, latino, so he likes it warm. Doh!
a joke
just to be clear.
BTW, this wasn’t the biggest “gangsta” fashion story of the day. That has to be the dude who killed a few people on 83rd and Amsterdam yesterday, then died tripping over his baggy trousers while trying to escape, falling 3 stories off the fire escape to his death.
i dont think there's any question Jose is a knucklehead

but is he “our” knucklehead? fans, or callers at least, seem to be divided.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Dec 18, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, that was as funny as multiple murder can get.
First, one victim gets away because the murderer’s pants fall down, then he trips over them on the fire escape and falls to his death. You don’t get much more incompetent than that.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Dec 18, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
I couldn't resist
Most everyone seemed to like the interview, and Mushnick had no issue with anything he said, but he picked up on the old “men shouldn’t wear hats indoors” criticism. The chance it was cold in the studio struck me as well.
Jebus Crispmas.
FATTY HISSELF WAS WEARING A FUGGIN’ WINTER COAT.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Dec 18, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Also, get off of Phil Mushnick's lawn.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Dec 18, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
The Edge
wears a knit hat indoors all the time and he is certifiably cool.
Reminds me
I was on my old co-op’s board for a while. When people wanted to buy an apartment, some board members would interview them. Usually not much we were concerned with other than finances.
One time a youngish couple wanted to buy. The husband was a musician. I forget what the wife did. He was quiet, let her do most of the talking. He wasn’t surly but she seemed to be the communicator for the 2 of them. And she just didn’t get what this vetting process was all about. We’d say this is a community, people have to live together, blah blah, how do you think you’ll fit in. She’d say oh we just want the apartment, no interest in joining community groups, etc.
We called them back. Just because there were concerns, especially for some old-timers, how they’d fit in. And rather than be on best behavior, she was worse. Very defensive. Why are we being called back, this is outrageous, etc. She didn’t seem to get it.
The poor husband seemed like a sweet guy, and barely said a word. He wore a knit cap throughout both interviews. Didn’t think much of it. It just struck me. When I was a kid they always said don’t wear your hat indoors. There are going to be people in this world who judge you. And, this is like a job interview. You are specifically here to be interviewed for whether folks want you as neighbors and co-shareholders. Some old folks. I was the youngest board member by far. You can say the hell with it, who even wants to live with these stuff shirts, but the fact is these people obviously did want to live there.
I forget how that played out. I know I didn’t vote to block them. They had the finances (barely) and as long as they wouldn’t bother people I didn’t care if folks weren’t joiners or especially social. As long as they weren’t going to run a tannery in the aprtment, etc., didn’t bother me.
Reyes wearing a cap while interviewed by Francesca though doesn’t strike me as especially noteworthy. I like Mushnick, although he does go overboard at times, especially on stuff like this. This struck me as quite a reach for a thing to pick on.
i enjoyed this story
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Dec 18, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, that's as read between the lines racist as it gets.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
I thought
he was pretty close to the line. He should have just left this alone, but it’s a bugaboo type thing with him. He wouldn’t let it go by without saying something which at the very least makes him sound like he is about as out of touch and crotchety as can be.
off topic, I look in the side bar on the right and see that
the “The Mets Are Doomed, And Other Offseason Overreactions” has been translated into an SBNation link entitled, “With Phillies Getting Stronger, Mets on the Outside Looking In.”
Not paying your SBNation bills, Eric?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Hall of Famer
if Reyes duplicates his career to date then pads that total with another five years of so-so older player production he’s going in.
Too bad I lost a link to Bill James’s favorite toy. It would be interesting to see what Jose’s chances are of getting to some HOF milestones such as 1500 runs (a lot for a SS), 200 HRs, x stolen bases, 2000 hits…

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