The Final Countdown, Part Two: Giants Stadium As Shea Stadium
by James Kannengieser on Dec 27, 2009 8:30 PM EST
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With some help from Jim Caldwell, Curtis Painter, Brad Smith and the Dolphins/Jaguars/Ravens/Broncos, the Jets will close down their stadium next Sunday in control of their playoff destiny. Sound vaguely familiar?* The Jets are once again evoking memories of their former co-tenants, the Mets, and in the name of the sanity of fans of both teams let's hope Ochocinco and co. lay a big egg in East Rutherford next week. Consider the following parallels and then decide who will win Jets-Bengals:
- Giants Stadium (1/3/10) as Shea Stadium (9/28/08)
- Mark Sanchez as Oliver Perez
- Chad Ochocinco as Wes Helms
- Eric Mangini as Willie Randolph
- Laveranues Coles as Matt Lindstrom
- Darrelle Revis as Carlos Beltran (tough to decide who is more awesome)
* -- No, the Mets didn't technically control their playoff destiny but a win that day would have guaranteed at least a one game playoff. Close enough.
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I'm surprised you did not bring up
Rex Ryan as Jerry ‘Gangsta’ Manuel
Because Rex is much much much better at his job
than jerry is at his would be my guess.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
I guess he is,
but I still do not get how the Jets lost that game against Buffalo at home. I did not see many other Jets games though.
Two Words:
The Sanchise
"For $11.4 million you can actually get a good player. But of course this is one of the things foolish organizations do: They complain that they can't afford good players after spending millions of dollars on not-good players." --Rob Neyer
by boom_roasted on Dec 28, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
This
Plus I’d rather not talk about Jerry right now. Enough Mets stuff to discuss without bringing him up.
by James Kannengieser on Dec 27, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
that is debateable
i mean he thought the Jets were eliminated last week and hes not too hot at clock management or press conferences.
Kinda sounds like Gangsta
I thought Jerry's biggest positive was the ability to own those press conferences
Rex blew the playoff thing last week, and he certainly has his warts. But a rookie coach with a rookie QB has his team on the brink of the playoffs and it’s not often that can be said.
by James Kannengieser on Dec 27, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
If nothing else Rex is a defensive genius and an all-world defensive coordinator
what’s Jerry got going for him?
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
He's gansta?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 27, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
The Bengals will probably rest some people
Seeing as this game means little to them, so that is why I give the Jets the edge. But they could easily pull a Mets (which isn’t that far from pulling a Jets)
Travis Hafner is made of gold
I don't think they will
the colts seem to really be the only team that regularly rests people at the end of the season. It seems most teams think it’s a bad idea, it’s better to head into the play-offs with momentum coming off a win.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
Plus they're coming off two losses
and a last minute win against a crappy team, I definitely don’t think they’ll be resting starters they need to get some kind of rhythm back on their offense before the wildcard round. Especially since there’s a good chance they’ll have to face some team that had to win out to even get in.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
Ferrealz??
I was thinking that because of their playoff appearance where Palmer and Chad went down on the first play they would want to play it safe when there was no meaning for the game. I guess I don’t watch football as much as I do baseball, though
Travis Hafner is made of gold
That was pretty much a freak accident
if they’d been strong the last few weeks I could see them resting starters, but, unless they get a big lead next week or something I think they’re gonna have to play the whole game, especially if their offense starts off struggling.
Really I don’t even understand why a team like the Colts, with a guaranteed week off, is resting starter this early, that’s 3 weeks of not taking football hits and not playing at full game speed, and then you go into a one and done situation against a team and expect to bring your top game?
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
Yeah, true
They’ve still got seeding to fight for, too. I can’t really blame the Colts for sitting Manning though, I think they can keep themselves in football condition in practice and heal the little soreness and bangs and bruises people accrue over the season with rest. I think it’s an advantage more than a disadvantage for a team to get a bye week in general.
Travis Hafner is made of gold
by Super Mario on Dec 27, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
I think the bye week is an advantage
but at this point they’re talking about 3 weeks, since they’re likely going to rest players after a quarter next week, between playing a full game at full speed. And I don’t think there’s any way you can simulate of full game speed at practice, let alone an actual hit.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
Scrimmages would simulate game speed
I mean I understand your point and agree it’s not the same, but if he starts a half in each then it’s not like he’s missed out on the experience and his chances of getting hurt were (redundant word usage) halved. If he’s playing in the 4th quarter and gets hurt in the Jets game today, the Colts would have looked like a bunch of silly williams.
Travis Hafner is made of gold
by Super Mario on Dec 28, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
b/c they're the Colts
and they never learn
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
I want the Jets to lose just because I don't like Jets fans.
My girlfriend lives in Jersey, so when I take the NJ Transit train home, it stops at Secauccus, and plenty of times, there’s a Jets game letting out when my train is stopping there. They’re just annoying. When I’m on those trains, I can fully understand why a Yankee fan might hate the Mets.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 27, 2009 8:56 PM EST reply actions
I'd say they're like the missing link between iggles fans and people.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
by Gina on Dec 27, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 27, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Beltran>>>>>>>>>>>Revis.
One of those guys is unappreciated, and the other is Revis.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
I'd say Revis is unappreciated
he’s probably a top 5 corner in the league at least
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
Probably the best
He’s the shizz.
Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.
by Preach19 on Dec 27, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Def at least top 5
I think he should be in the discussion with Asomugha for the best corner in the league.
the number one issue facing the Mets is finding that one guy who’s going to say "get on my shoulders and ride me to the championship."
I'd say top 2
and maybe #1. I’m not a Jets fan, but Revis is the truth
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
Top 5?
That’s ridiculous. It’s between him and Woodson, and the third is very distant.
by Mackey Sasser on Dec 28, 2009 3:40 AM EST up reply actions
This year
Revis was the best corner. He’s got to do it a few more years to be considered better than Asomugha, but in 2009, no one was better than Revis. He held Randy Moss and Andre Johnson to their worst games of the season, and Manning couldn’t get anything to Wayne cause he didn’t want Revis to get his hands on it.
The Mets lobby Omar for a plan, and his plan, he likes his plan. The problem is that he didn't write his plan down 'cause that makes it paperwork, and that’s false hustle... Know what I’m sayin’?
Just be careful.
Last year, statistically, Corey Webster was basically the 2nd best cornerback in the league. Some of these guys can kind of waver in their effectiveness.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Yeah I was going to say
I’d consider Webster better than Revis and probably the best this year.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
Well, I don't remember but was Webster covering Austin last time they played Dallas
cause, if so, Austin lit him up. I don’t think anyone burned Revis in an entire game all year.
The Mets lobby Omar for a plan, and his plan, he likes his plan. The problem is that he didn't write his plan down 'cause that makes it paperwork, and that’s false hustle... Know what I’m sayin’?
Although I'm curious where did you find stats on that?
I have a friend who used to work for fanball and charted corner and wr statistics but I’ve never been able to find them anywhere else online.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
Comparing Mangini to Randolph
isn’t really fair. Randolph>>>>Mangini.
Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.
"roughing the kicker"
I just wanna see the Bengals kick Jay Feely a**. Funny, this game is in Primetime
I'll think the Jets will win
but given the fact that they are the Jets, it’s just as likely they’ll lose 31-7
In other news, F—k Bill Sheridan, f—k that stupid f—king clown.
The Giants pulled a Mets today
so maybe the Jets will be spared.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
Since the game was moved to Sunday night
there’s a great chance that Cinci sits some guys. If the Pats beat Texas, and they should because they are playing for a 3 seed, then Cinci has no reason to risk injury, they will be locked in the 4 spot. Plus, Cinci aren’t exactly world beaters anyway. They were tied with KC late at home today. KC is unbelievably bad. They also struggled to beat Detroit. The Jets D is peaking. I know there are some Beltran lovers on here, I love him too, but he’s not as good at his job anymore, as Revis is at his. Revis is the absolute best in his field right now.
All that said, would not be at all surprised to see Sanchez throw 4 picks and see the Jets go up in flames. It would be a fitting way to close down the Meadowlands.
Also
If the Jets win, they would play the Bengals in the playoffs the following week, so Cincy might not want to show the Jets too much. They might scale back their play-calling if they have nothing to play for and that could benefit the Jets.
Of course, I’ve been a Jets fan for 25 years so I have zero confidence that anything I just said will help at all.
"You know I am only teasing. I love you gals out there -- always have." - Keith Hernandez
"Control your own destiny"
has got to be the dumbest / most annoying / most overused phrase in sports
You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.
Not half as dumb, annoying, and overused (at least about the Mets) as ...
… “In the best shape of his life.”
Picks, walks
I’ll take Sanchez pulling an Ollie. Five picks, Jets lose on the Bengals defense.
Good thing I’m not a Jets fan. Oh crap, I’m a Lions fan.
by Jamesir Bensonmum on Dec 28, 2009 9:46 AM EST reply actions
How about Braylon Edwards/Chansi Stuckey
as Churchey/Frankenstein?
and the home of the... JETS!!!
www.ganggreennation.com
Only two things wrong ...
… with your analysis, James.
(1) You don’t have anybody as Scott Schoeneweis, who actually lost that game (among others that season), in more ways than one.
(2) The Bengals are a much better team relative both to the JMets and the rest of the league, than the Marlins.
(I was at Closing Day in ’08 and ’07. Sigh.)
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