Mets To Sign Livan Hernandez; Reyes To Bat Third?
From Adam Rubin at the Daily News: "Luis Castillo may bat leadoff for the Mets. Potentially, Carlos Beltran could bat second and Jose Reyes third. It may make more sense to bat Carlos Delgado fourth and David Wright fifth in that scenario, since otherwise the Mets would be stacking a ton of lefties at the bottom of the order."
Same source: The Livan deal is a minor league contract. He'll receive $1 million if he makes the team.
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So then would that mean this?
Castillo
Beltran
Reyes
Delgado
Wright
Church
Fernando Murphy
Schneider
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Feb 14, 2009 10:55 AM EST reply actions
that's what i'm thinking
but maybe wright would bat cleanup instead of delgado…
not sure what i think about this. reyes seems like the better leadoff hitter…his OBP is very similar to castillo’s, and he’s the better base stealer. but if manuel thinks castillo is more comfortable batting leadoff, then maybe it’s worth a shot.
I wouldn't be opposed to Castillo leading off
what with his very light hitting and decent OBP, but when this had been raised around here in previous discussions I think we all assumed it meant a straight flip with Reyes and him. I certainly hadn’t thought about Reyes in the 3 spot. He might lose out on some triples and SBs but I imagine his bat would still be pretty effective there.
I’m certainly willing to see how it plays out in the spring. Still, I think if you’re gonna move Castillo up then Jose should just take over the 2 spot. Guess we’ll see.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Feb 14, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed, if Castillo can OBP .360 I have no problem with him batting leadoff
but can you imagine what Reyes’s BB% would plummet to if he hit 3rd?
by James Kannengieser on Feb 14, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
No joke
That thought is in the back of my mind, and it scares me a little bit.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Feb 14, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Not necessarily
with Wright and a hopefully solid Delgado behind him.
Castillo's utter lack of power is a better fit for the leadoff spot.
I’m surprised to see this kind of progressive thinking from Jerry.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Feb 14, 2009 11:34 AM EST reply actions
Agreed
While I think just between the two Reyes is the better lead off hitter, but Castillo is pretty much a nightmare anywhere else.
And if Beltran ends up batting 2nd I actually think that would be kind of awesome. I’d prefer to see something like.
Castillo
Beltran
Wright
Delgado
Reyes- because no one after this can hit for any power and he can move himself over. and he can hit for enough power to drive the obp machines in front of him in if no one else does
Church
Murphy/Tatis
Schneider
Pitcher
I do not like Reyes hitting 5th.
He is one of our 3 best hitters and probably our most dynamic; that guy needs to get as many ABs as possible.
Proof
Hernandez, who will turn 34 next Friday, is to be reunited with Mets general manager Omar Minaya, who engineered the trade that moved the veteran right-hander from the Giants to the Expos in the spring of 2003, when Minaya was Montreal’s GM.
Also where does that link say anything about Jose Reyes?
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
Oddly
The MLB.com article seems to have been edited since it was first posted this morning. I don’t know how to get a cached copy but when I first went through the link the story definitely contained the quote that Englishgrey has up there.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Feb 14, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Different link
From Adam Rubin’s blog here.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Feb 14, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
thanks for the link
i’ve edited the fanshot to include the adam rubin link. but the mlb.com article definitely did mention reyes batting third when i posted it. i’m never trusting ed eagle ever again.
"He's our new Pedro," one Mets player said. "Or our new Duque."
by James Kannengieser on Feb 14, 2009 12:43 PM EST reply actions
Throwing up in my mouth.
“F” Castillo leading off. Why on earth “F” with what’s worked (offensively) in the past? Why on earth would I want to gamble with reducing Reyes’ potential SB production? Let Castillo prove he can hit along with maintaining the respectable OBP. If Castillo proves he can hit better than last year then so be it, let him hit leadoff. I’m just not in the mood to start the season with an “almost” automatic out at the beginning of the game.
Comments on L. Hernandez from someone on the team from Marty Noble’s article: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090214&content_id=3828074&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Another voice said, “He gives us another right-handed bat off the bench.”
Great, who was the genius that said that? So you’re happy we acquired a pitcher to get a few at bats. …Brilliant. Hey Marty, why don’t you do us all a favor and provide us with the name of the person who said that? That way, I’ll know whom to spew my derision towards in the future.
I don’t mean to bring negative vibes to this party, but I ain’t down with dat!
Why I drink Jim Beam
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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 14, 2009 1:02 PM EST reply actions
gogo
I understand where you’re coming from, he just seems to stick in my mind as Mr. Strikeout or Mr. Groundout. If he can get on base, great. But that doesn’t mean he warrants the leadoff position over Reyes.
Why I drink Jim Beam
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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 14, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
he can get on base, as evidenced by the high OBP...
and as jason pointed out, castillo’s up there with the league leaders in fewest k’s.
Noted, however...
He only had 43% of the AB’s that Reyes did and Reyes finished with .358 OPB as opposed to .355 OPB for Castillo. Castillo was far behind Reyes in both SLG and AVG as well.
There was a reason Castillo was among the leaders in fewest K’s. He had relatively fewer AB’s amongst the leagues players my friend. So, if we want to make the SO’s relevant, let’s take a look at ratios of AB’s to SO’s.
AB:SO ratio for Castillo was: 8.5:1 For Reyes 8.4:1 (rounded up).
The question that begs to be answered is: What advantage would the Mets gain by putting Castillo as the leadoff batter as opposed to Reyes? I submit: “NONE”
Why I drink Jim Beam
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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 14, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
The advantage to be gained...
is not from having Castillo leading off as opposed to Reyes, especially since (as you point out) their OBP may be almost identical. The advantage is from having Reyes rather than Castillo hitting in a position in the order where he’s more likely to come up with men on base. As you point out, Reyes has the higher average and SLG. The ONLY place where Castillo might match Reyes’ value is in the leadoff spot. If Castillo is a black hole elsewhere in the lineup, and Reyes isn’t, then why not play Castillo in the one spot (ok, or 8th, or 9th) where he ISN’T useless?
Looking at it another way: Castillo’s career OBP as a leadoff hitter is .365. Reyes’ career OBP as a leadoff hitter is .338.
Career numbers are a good indication of what has transpired, however...
IMO Castillo is on the down side of his career considering his age (33) and the amount of years he’s been in (13) as opposed to Jose being on the upside of his career and still being quite young. Jose’s OBP does happen to be increasing every season.
I guess a disadvantage I would attribute to putting Castillo in the leadoff position is MAYBE Jose’s SB production woud decline because of potential men on in front of him.
As I said earlier, if Castillo can prove his mettle at leadoff, well, I guess – go for it. I just don’t remember our problem being the offense last season, so…If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Why I drink Jim Beam
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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 15, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Eh I think Reyes needs to run way way less anyway
I don’t think it’s just a coincidence that he’s had a huge drop off in his september numbers every year, and I certainly don’t think it has anything to do with not being clutch as some people might claim, he runs way to much.
D. Wright could supplement some of that running.
Any idea why his SB’s dropped off so substantially last year? Personal or managerial decision? I’m still trying to figure that one out.
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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 15, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Well he was sent like 15-20 less times than he was in 07
So it was someone’s decision I would assume it had something to do with Jerry cause he was only sent like 3 times the last 3 months of the season.
guess he was savin him for the playoffs.
Why I drink Jim Beam
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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 15, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Lou, are you Omar Minaya?
You seem to share his attitude that as long as the bullpen got fixed this offseason everything else could just stay the way it was. Whether an offense that was “good enough” last year will be “good enough” again this year depends on Delgado continuing to perform at 37, Church being at least adequate (rather than post-concussion Church), Tatis not doing what Jose Valentin did in 2007, Murphy hitting over a full season… the idea that we should just be standing pat because we scored a lot of runs last year is silly.
Blah, blah, blah! Homey, you know I ain't no Omar! ;-)
I was a proponent for ANOTHER bat. Not some reshuffling of the deck chairs. But, THE major downfall was that ugly bullpen. We got what we needed, so I expect the same kind of team. Thinking back to the ‘07 season, was our offense at fault then? I’m not trying to be a smart a$$, I’m just asking.
No one can ever predict what players will do. You’ve stated (above) to take a look at career stats. With that rational, is there any reason I should expect the offense to just tank all of a sudden?
Why I drink Jim Beam
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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 15, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying you should expect the offense to tank
… but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to recognize that there are question marks scattered among more reliable commodities like Reyes and Wright and Beltran (and I guess you should say that Schneider is “reliable” in that he reliably won’t be a very good hitter).
Furthermore, even if Omar hasn’t taken a route that involves acquiring an impact bat, that doesn’t mean that the offense should stay EXACTLY the same as last year. The fact that it wasn’t broken doesn’t mean there aren’t minor ways to make it better and Omar and Jerry wouldn’t be doing their job if they weren’t actively seeking those out. Tweaking the lineup is ESPECIALLY something they should consider (as opposed to bringing in yet another fifth outfielder) because it costs nothing. I mean, maybe Jerry tries it out for a few games and it doesn’t work and he puts Reyes back in the leadoff slot, but it doesn’t make sense to categorically dismiss the idea.
Don't mind tweakin'
But I think the original premise to this string of hyperbole is that of Castillo hitting leadoff. That, I don’t agree with. Now, what other ideas does the mad scientist have?
Why I drink Jim Beam
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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 17, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Now hold on
What’s the point of tweaking if you’re going to rule out certain possibilities out of hand, just because they’re unconventional?
Hmmm. Good point.
Lets’s see. I’ll let them tweak w/everything else except for Castillo leading off.
Just saw a clip of J. Reyes on MLB.com yesterday and he seems to be drinking the Kool-Aid. “It doesn’t bother me. Whatever I can do for the team to help us win.”
If it’s alright with Jose, then I guess it’s alright with me.
" That will be enough Mr. Selig. Thank you. "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 19, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Gonna be honest, bud.
Is this you? (response to the first comment)
If so…be more positive.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
gogo. are you asking me if i'm on another blog?
i checked the link and that has nothing to do with me. the only sports blog i contribute to is sb nation.
Why I drink Jim Beam
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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 14, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
no, that's not me
i saw that the other day. dude’s a jackass. a bigger one than i am, at least.
lou—um, squid directed that question at you, not me…
the comments over there today were unreal
you’d think signing Livan Hernandez was akin to signing Hitler.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Feb 14, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
That's completely ridiculous.
I doubt Hitler ever even saw a game of baseball, much less played it.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Feb 14, 2009 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
I could see him as the bat boy.
Why I drink Jim Beam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMdiRkiYREU
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 14, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
To be fair, Bobby
I’d probably be pretty ticked off if Omar signed Hitler.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Feb 14, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
I hope we all would
Although I’m tempted to make a Ryan Church joke here.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Feb 14, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
sorry about that gogo.
I’m still confused as to what squid is trying to say.
Why I drink Jim Beam
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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 14, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
I meant gogo. Because the guy on Metsblog is gogomets as well.
Thusly, I was confuzzled.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Whose on first?
Why I drink Jim Beam
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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 15, 2009 2:08 AM EST up reply actions
Doh!
Edit: Who’s
Why I drink Jim Beam
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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 15, 2009 2:09 AM EST up reply actions
The other blogs you guys talk about.
I’ve taken a look at the other blogs you guys have referenced. IMO, they can’t compare w/this blog. Not only due to the content but also due to way this blog is laid out. The other blogs basically look like every other internet page. This is completely opposite. I love the aesthetics on SB Nation. Just a cleaner format.
Why I drink Jim Beam
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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 14, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
He gives us another right handed bat off the bench?
That’s one of the most lol worthy things I have ever read.
But anyway as far as Castillo where else is there to bat him?
sigh...good question
Well, I just don’t know. This would be my lineup:
Reyes
Murphy
Wright
Delgado
Beltran
Church
Castillo
Schneider
Pitcher
Why I drink Jim Beam
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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 14, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
I took that line as a joke
but who knows.
by James Kannengieser on Feb 14, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Joke. I can see that.
Why I drink Jim Beam
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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 14, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
I think trying Reyes batting third is a pretty ballsy call
Reyes’ OBP/SLG:
.354/.487
.354/.421
.358/.475
While Reyes doesn’t appear to be the sterotypical middle of the order hitter, he almost has too much power to have a pitcher/8th place hitter being the guys on base when he’s up. Obviously, there are faults, mainly would a number three hitter get as many ABs as a lead off guy, SB problems, etc. But you have to commend the Mets for thinking outside the bun.
I guess it depends on how the rest of the line-up looks
My biggest worry is it means Wright or Beltran will be batting 5th, or worse 5th and 6th which I definitely don’t want with their obp’s.
that's my fear too
i don’t want to see castillo-church/murphy-reyes in the 1-2-3 spots, and then a mix of beltran, delgado, and wright in the 4-5-6 spots. that would be less than optimal.
Another thing.
Say for instance Castillo (leadoff) and Murph (if he were batting 2nd) were on 2nd and 1st respectively. Reyes hit’s a screamer down the right field line towards the wall. His speed can get him a sure double and a possible triple. There’s a possibility that Murhp’s lack of speed may preclude Reyes from getting to 3rd.
Agree / disagree?
Hell, maybe Manuel is thinking of Reyes as more of an RBI producer in the 3rd position. I don’t know. Personally, I just like Jose’s spot at the top of the order with no one getting in his way of SB’s.
Why I drink Jim Beam
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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 14, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Don't hit murphy second
In a line-up with Castillo first and Reyes third I can’t see any reason they could have to bat Murphy 2nd.
I'd imagine it would be Beltran in the two-hole.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Feb 14, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Just playing around with line-up ideas
A friend of mine brought up Tom Tango’s method, basing it off wOBA putting the top two in wOBA 1,2 the third, in the 4 hole spot, the fourth, in the 3 hole, the 5th in the 9 hole and then the rest in descending order. Based off chone’s wOBA projections it would look something like this.
1. David Wright
2. Carlos Beltran
3. Carlos Delgado
4. Jose Reyes
5. Murphy/Tatis
6. Luis Castillo
7. Brian Schneider
8. Pitcher
9. Ryan Church
That’s a line up I’m not sure even Epstein/Beane could love. I have no idea what kind of runs that would be expected to produce but it’s certainly interesting.
I'm in the middle of writing something for Mets Geek on this topic
and consulted my copy of “The Book”. He concludes that the 2nd leadoff hitter theory exists, but earlier in the book he gives us an example of an optimal lineup. He had the worst wOBA batting 9th. So I’m not sure exactly what his optimal lineup would be for this team.
by James Kannengieser on Feb 14, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Ahh I was going to do that same thing
damn.
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
looks like a lineup from seinfeld's bizarro world episode
Why I drink Jim Beam
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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 14, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
this post can be held up
as an example of why I come to this site. Only in AA world could you post such a thing
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Feb 14, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
What about Jose in the 2 spot?
I like that alot better than him in the 3 spot.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
I want Reyes hitting leadoff...but what about Wright in the 2-hole?
He has decent speed and draws a fair amount of walks. Then you can have Beltran and Delgado. The reason why I wanted Abreu was because he’s a great 5 hitter. But I really don’t like the idea of Murphy, Church, or anyone we currently have in that spot.
"One of the nice things about baseball is that there are no rules you can't break." - Jim Bouton
I am with Lou on this one
I think this move is pretty nuts. First off, according to rotoworld, Castillo has actually been more productive in 501 career games as a No. 2 hitter (747 OPS) than in 870 games out of the leadoff spot (721 OPS). Second and most importantly, you are messing with Reyes again and we all know how well that turned out last time. First Kaz Matsui gets him now Castillo. Sure being a number 3 hitter is generally considered an honor but I doubt that Reyes sees it that way. I think he wants to stay leadoff. At worst, I would say put him at #2 but given the above stat, there is no justification for this move. I’d rather see the pitcher bat eighth and Castillo ninth(I am half joking here although his limited skills might help as the classic second leadoff man. )
Castillo may be more productive himself as a 2 hitter than a 1 hitter
But a .747 OPS from your 2 hitter is ugly. I don’t disagree with the rest of your post but I don’t think Castillo should be anywhere other than 8th,9th or 1st.
alrighty then.
7th :-)
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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 14, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
Who cares if Reyes' walk rate drops?
He wouldn’t bat third to walk, he’s bat third to hit..so his homers, slugging, etc would rise, he’d become more of a hitter rather than a table-setter.
Given the expected dimensions of Citi Field,
Reyes’ home run numbers should drop a little. However, he will probably make up for it with more doubles and triples.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Feb 14, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Would love Reyes third
Castillo
Beltran
Reyes
Wright
Delgado
Church
Murphy
Schneider
P
I’m pretty sure lineup optimization has your top 2 hitters hitting 2nd and 4th, and Reyes has too much power to be hitting 1st. As far as that might effect his SB numbers… well, I would be happy if he runs a lot less then he has been.
by yellomellojello on Feb 15, 2009 12:58 AM EST reply actions
four lefties ahead of the pitcher?
Also, I’m not sold on Reyes’s power. He has shown flashes, and I’d love to see more, but right now he’s nowhere near Wright-Beltran-Delgado-Church territory.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Feb 15, 2009 1:33 AM EST up reply actions
Hear, Hear!
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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 15, 2009 2:10 AM EST up reply actions
David Wright: 77 XBH last year
Jose Reyes: 72
Flashes of HR power, sure. Plenty of XBH on the whole though. Imagine how many times (and how exciting it would be) to see Beltran trying to score from first on Reyes doubles/triples. Also, the point is that your 2 best hitters you want in the 2 and 4 spot, not in the 3rd.
by yellomellojello on Feb 15, 2009 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not crazy about this
But Castillo has been most successful as a leadoff hitter and he drag bunts/bunts better than Reyes does. But doesn’t all this hinge on Castillo’s knee’s? It will be interesting to see Castillo run during spring training but one could argue that Castillo batting leadoff would put more pressure on his legs and make him more apt to injure himself than he already is.
I think separating Castillo and Schneider is a plus. I do think that Reyes has power potential but I see him as a line drive hitter and he does hit well to the opposite field. If Castillo is healthy and Reyes doesn’t go pull crazy this could work. rolling me eyes
Worst idea ever (OK not quite, but close)
Increasing Castillo’s AB’s and decreasing Wright’s is about as boneheaded as it gets.
Don't like Castillo first
It’s hugely valuable to have a guy who hits a lot of doubles and triples batting leadoff, a la Reyes. You aren’t going to be able to steal second all of the time, so getting there in the first place is bigger than simply getting on base or stealing them.
Me:
Reyes
Beltran
Wright
Delgado
Church
Murphy
Schenider
Castillo
(Or some variation)
Who's world is it? It's yours.
someone else has seen the light
Why I drink Jim Beam
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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 15, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
Too Top Heavy
After the 4th hitter, it’s too huge a drop, you’d want to spread out your talented hitters:
Reyes
Castillo
Beltran
Delgado
Wright
Church
Murphy
Schneider
Wright would normally be higher, but I’d want to separate the lefties by putting Wright in the 5 hole.
Why do you want to spread out your talented hitters?
Putting Wright that low drastically reduces his plate appearances. Why would you ever want to do that for your best hitter?
Yeah
If Castillo slugs .305 like last year, I’d be willing to bet you lose out on a win or more over the course of a season with him batting first or second. Why have Castillo (.245/.355/.305) bat 2nd instead of Church (.276/.346/.439), Beltran (.284/.376/.500), or Murphy?
Also, the separation of lefties and righties is only useful when the guys you’re switching around are similar batters… Wright is far superior to Delgado. Even in your lineup, against a righty the first four batters will be lefties.
Who's world is it? It's yours.
My ideal order
Reyes
Wright
Delgado
Beltran
Murphy/Tatis
Church (Church and Murphy/Tatis are interchangeable at #5 and #6)
Castillo
Schneider
by James Kannengieser on Feb 15, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
hear what livan said about his brother
He wants to come back as a reliever!!!
Just say NO!! Omar
That's like a crack fiend sayin no to crack.
I’m afraid to open the newspaper inter-web this week. God help us.
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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Feb 15, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
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