Big Pelf Has Forearm Tendonitis
Wonderful.
almost 3 years ago
Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright
61 comments
0 recs |
Email
PrintComments
It becomes you my dear.
" WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU'VE WITNESSED A GRAND HANDSHAKE PARADE? "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Apr 15, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Heh
I was trying to find a better source for this news item and failed. I did, however, find this heading at a Jets forum:
DAMN YOU VERDUCCI!!!!!!!!!
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 15, 2009 9:18 AM EDT reply actions
I saw a couple of those comments at Metsblog
I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s got a bunch of voodoo dolls of young pitchers in a secret room in his basement.
I guess the silver lining is that the tendonitis excuses some of his bad performance.
Dear Liz Lemon: While other women have bigger boobs than you, no other woman has as big a heart. When I saw you getting ready to go out and get nailed by a bunch of guys last night, I knew for sure it was over between us, and for the first time since the '86 World Series, I cried... I cried...
Just like Pedro Cerrano
All offering sacrifices and rum to Jobu to ensure that young pitchers sustain injuries, but only able to use a bucket of fried chicken because his wife won’t let him kill a live chicken in the house.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 15, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
screw it, im blaming verducci
a-hole sportswriter inventing an injury tendency for our young pitchers to fall victim too.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON. WE WANT THE MANSION NOT THE CONDO.
Don't pitch through the pain, Pelf.
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
well
at least the wilpons are willing to spend money to replace pelfrey and/or other starters who may become injured
this probably deserves a fanshot, but i’m in class and feeling lazy this morning
great
glad they decided that months after we missed out on Derek Lowe. Now to add payroll we’ll also have to give up prospects. Sometimes I wonder how the Wilpon’s brains work.
I don't think they ever blocked Lowe
0mar’s fault
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
But Perez is Sandy Koufax 2.0?
Or maybe…he’s Latino. I don’t usually play into that whole thing, but I mean, come on…it’s obvious that at least Omar wanted “his guy”.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
The problem is the only pitcher available right now
Is probably Peavy, and I’m not even sure we could put together a package of prospects/players to get him.
April is not an easy time to shop for an MLB GM
If Pelf’s going to miss significant time, unless Pedro lowers his asking price, we may see a few starts from Niese, and if he gets beat up, maybe Gee?
by Mark Himmelstein on Apr 15, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I think of the 3 big pitchers who might hit the market we have the best chance of getting Oswalt
But the problem is the Astros seem to be dumber than rocks and always convinced they can contend. He has to be on the block before we can trade for him.
I hope to convince them.
I mean, they have NO farm system. None. Zero. So, honestly, what do they really expect? The only good players on their team are Oswalt, Berkman, and Lee. Wandy Rodriguez is their #2 starter. Read that again. THEIR #2 STARTER. How can they possibly expect to finish above 5th place? They have to completely disassemble that team, ship off all available parts, fire a bunch of people, and begin anew. That’s what they SHOULD do. I wonder what Astro fans think.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
No way. As much as I diss Pelf/Ollie
they are better than Wandy Rodriguez, and John Maine is just as good if not better.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Metsblog sure has a lot of orthopedists, or people who like to pretend they are. I love when people break down injuries like they know what they’re talking about. Well, player A had this condition, then got that condition, so it stands to reason player B will progress the same way. Tendon-itis. Swelling of a tendon. Without any more information, we don’t know anything.
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Apr 15, 2009 9:34 AM EDT reply actions
Keep in mind
This is the dude reporting the “news”:
by Eric Simon on Apr 15, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
That's why I was looking for more sources
I found a couple other folks relaying “Gammons reported that . . .” but nothing else.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 15, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
ha ha ha!
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Apr 15, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Seconded
" WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU'VE WITNESSED A GRAND HANDSHAKE PARADE? "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Apr 15, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah but when he reported the New Kids on the Block reunion
he was right on.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 15, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
With everything said I still don't give Verducci credit for "calling this"
Where’s the evidence that it was the innings/age that caused this?
I’m going to do the same thing as Verducci, based on 2007 data here’s 10 pitchers who I’m going to pick for the Soko Effect:
Jake Peavy
Brandon Webb
John Lackey
Brad Penny
Carmona
Haren
Smoltz
Young
Bedard
Oswalt
So, how’d these pitchers do in 08-
Jake Peavy – Went from 34 starts to 27 – Injured – Point Joe
Brandon Webb – Same – No Point
John Lackey – 33 starts to 24 – Injured – Point Joe
Brad Penny – 33 starts to 17 and he also sucked – Point Joe
Carmona – 32 starts to 22 and he also sucked – Point Joe
Haren – Better than in 07 – No point, Zona pitchers are exceptions to my made up rule
Smoltz – 32 starts to 5 – Point Joe
Young – 30 starts to 18 – Point Joe
Bedard – 28 starts to 15 – Point Joe
Oswalt – Basically but lost a win in value – No point
By my count, the Soko Rule went 7/10, putting it right up there with Verducci. Candidates for, injury (pitching related or anything else such as slipping on the driveway)/ineffectiveness/whatever else Verducci says counts as a win, this year are:
Johan – NOOOO
Cliff Lee – Looks like I’m right already right
Lincecum
CC
Roy
Peavy – Again? Will they ever learn the Soko Rule
Matsuzaka
Dempster – Called it
Sheets – Called it
Hamels – Looking good so far
Can anyone guess my easily recognizable criteria to be chosen for the Soko Rule?
Exactly
While I agree that young pitchers should have their workloads monitored, this 30 inning barrier is arbirtrary. Eric Seidman wrote a great article about in response to Verducci’s calls.
How would pitching 30+ innings cause Yovani Gallardo to tear his ACL? Or how it hurt Fausto Carmona’s hip while covering first base on a routine play? Or, perhaps how it caused Chad Gaudin to slip off of a curb and smack his back on a dumpster… and yes, you read that correctly.
Peavy smells delicious right now.
" WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU'VE WITNESSED A GRAND HANDSHAKE PARADE? "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Apr 15, 2009 11:17 AM EDT reply actions
We're pretty much between a rock and a hard place
If we trade for Peavy what will we have left in our farm system, unfortunately F-mart probably can’t carry a package himself the way a player like LaPorta could so we’re going to have to give up quanity again, I doubt F-mart+Niese or something would get Peavy. Leaving us with few pieces to fill other holes that might spring up, or holes that will spring up next year, through trades. On top of adding money to the payroll that would likely hinder the ability to replace Delgado and the catchers and other holes that may spring up, for example if Castillo remains awful and we’re suddenly in the market for a 2nd basemen.
Well
The only thing is that the FA first basemen are awful next year — no idea who’d be available via trade. You might try to get Delgado back on a 1 year deal, if he plays okay this year. Or patch it up with Murphy/Evans for a year, even though that’d be tough to stomach from an offensive standpoint.
F-Mart > LaPorta, IMO. I’d be fine with F-Mart and Niese for Peavy or Halladay, if those teams would bite. It’s pretty clear we need another frontline pitcher; hate to bring up Derek Lowe, but …
I can understand whay you think F-mart>Laporta
But it seems like the majority of scouts/prospect analysis disagree. If they wouldn’t accept a package headline by Vitters+some other guys I’d have to look up I don’t think a package headlined by F-mart+ Niese is going to get it done either. I imagine to get Peavy it’s going to be F-mart, plus one of the high upside international guys, and possibly more, like Brad Holt. And I think Halladay will cost the farm system.
Also i was going to talk about Lowe and perez but I didn’t want to bring it up…but since you did already if we signed Lowe, instead of Ollie, we wouldn’t be in the position we’re we need a top tier type pitcher, we probably could have settled for a 3/4 maybe even 5 type pitcher. So, if we end up having to trade for a pitcher, Ollie is costing us his 12 million+ the cost of the pitcher we add+ the prospects+ the inability to fill other holes in the future.
On the other hand
the Cubs have Vitters and only Vitters. They’ve really got nothing else even approaching Holt or whoever, let alone Flores and Marte — it’s a totally barren farm system. It was really tough for them to put a package together.
That's not really true
Also just to clarify
I’m not saying we can’t get him. I’m saying it would cost a lot in prospects, plus $$ obviously, which would hinder our ability to make other moves and would cause holes elsewhere. We trade for Peavy now we’re adding, I think his salary goes up to 17-19 million but I could be wrong, in payroll already for next season, even with the crappy 1st base options we might have gone after someone like Bay or Holliday, though I’m not particularly a fan of Bay, and moved Murphy to first which I don’t think there’s any chance of doing if we add Peavy.
And since we’ve likely traded F-mart we don’t have an inhouse option to take over one of the corner spots if we move Murphy to first base, nor do we have pieces to trade for a solution. Our finances would also be pretty limited in looking for 2 catchers, since Castro and Schneider will both be free agents. Plus there’s the fact we’d likely be trading most of our pitching depth, and we wouldn’t have many resources to fill unexpected holes that could pop up during the season or off-season, like if it became apparent that Castillo just can’t be an everyday second basemen anymore.
Murphy
you are not getting Peavy without giving him up. Plus probably Niese and F-mart as well. I don’t think it is possible. I am wondering if Oswalt might be more realistic.
Given Nick Evans
I’ve no issue with trading Murphy, who, let’s face it, has no position — in the right deal.
murphy
Despite the muffed fly ball, early indications from UZR are that he’s at least an average left fielder, but likely above average.
Well most minor league data said the same thing
Although obviously it wasn’t a large sample size there either, there just really hasn’t been any thing to indicate that he’s going to be worse than average. Also, I’m pretty sure we’ve had this conversation, but for w/e reason there seems to be a pretty wide consensus that there’s not much upside left to evans bat and that he won’t be able to hit consistently enough in the big leagues to be an everyday player.
No way the Mets get Halladay
we could give up our whole farm system and still not have enough to outbid other teams. there isn’t a team in baseball that wouldn’t at least think about trying to get him. We don’t have anywhere near enough chips.
Maybe if
they traded like 8 players, a la Roberto Alomar. But it isn’t practical. I’m feeling like now that since Minaya can add payroll now, he’s just getting ready to sign Pedro.
"What position do you play?"
"I bat third."
ah the P-word
don’t you think its more likely Omar might call on Mighty Tim Redding?
As I’ve said before, he’s tanned, he’s rested, he’s ready. To be the Mets other 5th starter.
Luis Ayala, pick up the courtesy phone!
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 15, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
I think we have enough #4 and #5 pitchers. I sure would like a solid # 2. Is it possible to kidnap Lowe and provide him with some plastic surgery and mind altering drugs?
I’m going to talk with my people to see what options we have. It’d be the greatest coup since project MK Ultra!
(Don’t you dare begrudge my wikipedia reference!)
" WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU'VE WITNESSED A GRAND HANDSHAKE PARADE? "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Apr 15, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
plastic surgery? mind altering drugs?
not gonna work. we need country music. its the only way
"You know I am only teasing. I love you gals out there -- always have." - Keith Hernandez
Also
Ditto if they need corner outfield help, with Detroit’s Magglio Ordonez ($19 million), the White Sox’s Jermaine Dye ($11.5 million) and Kansas City’s Jose Guillen ($12 million) all potential trade candidates.
do not want. do not want. DO NOT WANT.
magglio is ok
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
For 18 million the next 2 years?
He’s okay, but he’s not near that good, he’s only been that good once in his career and never even got close the other years, and he’s also 35.
Since when do the Mets pay players what they're worth?
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
Heh-heh
They’re paying Ollie more than what he’s worth.
" WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU'VE WITNESSED A GRAND HANDSHAKE PARADE? "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Apr 16, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Adios blog
" WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU'VE WITNESSED A GRAND HANDSHAKE PARADE? "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Apr 16, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
FanShots
Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.
Recommended FanShots
Recent FanShots
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Certain photos copyright © 2012 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
