Mets Starting Pitcher tRA+

by Eric Simon on Apr 23, 2009 10:36 AM EDT

An explanation of tRA+ can be found at StatCorner. Short version for lazies: It considers what the pitcher actually did -- not just what earned runs he happened to allow -- adjusted for defense and park and expressed relative to the league (100 = average).

This can't really surprise anyone given what we've seen from the starting rotation excepting Johan Santana, but graphs can really hammer home -- especially for you visual learners out there -- just how bad these guys have been. Player photos were added for levity.

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Why aren't Lowe and Vazquez on the chart?

Oh right…

by ams258 on Apr 23, 2009 10:38 AM EDT reply actions

Both guys are at 138

For what it’s worth (apparently not $3 million more than Oliver Perez. Zing!)

by Eric Simon on Apr 23, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions

I like this.

by Sokojoe on Apr 23, 2009 11:02 AM EDT reply actions

I am actually surprised that Livan and Perez are that high.

by Endys Game on Apr 23, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions

They aren't

They just look high when compared to Maine and Pelfrey

by supermets on Apr 23, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions

I know

It just seems from the naked eye as if Perez is the worst of them all by far and Livan never looks impressive to me even when he is winning. But there you go, that is why I come to this site to get actual data,so I don’t have to rely just on my own limited observations.

by Endys Game on Apr 23, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Pelf

Hopefully his performance will improve as his health does.

by JoshNY on Apr 23, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions

I am actually surprised that Pelfrey has gotten anyone out

since he apparently has no eyes

by ams258 on Apr 23, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions

Obviously

It’s because his NF% (Neck-to-Face Ratio) is well above league average. His NF+ is something like 234, adjusted for home park of course.

by Eric Simon on Apr 23, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions

Santana is silly

the rest are silly too… just not in a very entertaining way.

by Gina on Apr 23, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions

We'll be OK

Shaky start, but our elements are in place. Just need to sharpen our play and get some RBI’s for crying out loud. Pelfrey and Maine will turn it around, especially Maine. Perez, well I’m just pleased he got a 3 year deal and not a 4. Lord help us though.

Livan, doing great kid!

The 2009 NY Mets: WE GOT K-ROD! OMG, Putz, too! Sign Lowe! Lowe's a Brave. Sign Manny! Tim Redding, WTF? Sign Manny! Sheets or Perez? SHEETS! Perez?? Oh, Sheets is hurt -- good job, Minaya! WTF?! SIGN MANNY!

by ZaBlanc on Apr 23, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions

How Mets pitching currently makes me feel

by OVERALLSPORTSFAN on Apr 23, 2009 12:09 PM EDT reply actions

please, it is still early

although after watching his starts i did want to take a katana blade to pelfrey’s had and slice it in twain just so.

Hiiii YAHHHHH!

HELLO HELLO MR WILPON. WE WANT THE MANSION NOT THE CONDO.

by kendynamo on Apr 23, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

+1

for use of the phrase “slice it in twain”.

'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 23, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions

i reccomend using the phrase 'splayed in twain'

whenever possible. would have used it here but it did not quite fit. it really is buckets of fun though, should you get the opportunity.

HELLO HELLO MR WILPON. WE WANT THE MANSION NOT THE CONDO.

by kendynamo on Apr 23, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Pitching is terrible!

Watching cards game right now and enjoying all the homers … wait , they are from the opposing team . what is going on ? Should of paid that extra millions for Lowe …

by famos23 on Apr 23, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions

Pedro please come home

the pitching is the worst I can remember in a long time. there were plenty of other pitchers for the mets to sign other than the ones they did sign. Please bring back pedro and see what he can do, it can not be any worse than what is happening now. FIRE THE GM….. this season falls on his shoulders. I love the Mets but we are not going anywhere this year. Disgusted Fan

by disgusted met fan on Apr 23, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions

Disgusted Met fan please go home.

The ignorance of factual evidence in this post is the worst I can remember in a long time. There are plenty of other points you could have made other than the one you did as to why the pitching is bad, and plenty of other pitchers better and cheaper than Pedro on the market. Please go back home and see if you can learn anything about baseball, such as the fact that it is a 162 game schedule. It could absolutely be worse than what is happening now (we could be the “Natinals”). Don’t fire a GM after 10-20 games…the season rests on the players shoulders. I love the Mets, but you aren’t going anywhere with your argument this year if you overreact like this everytime we have a losing streak. Squid92.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Apr 23, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions