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Regarding Heart, Grit, Fire

While I openly mock the sentiment that the Mets lack some sort of "killer instinct," I understand it. Watching hit after hit fall in with the bases empty and then a series of double plays and strikeouts with the bases loaded seems inexplicable. The whole ordeal recalls a great Joe Posnanski quote JoshNY posted about a month ago, that is worth revisiting:

"I think that this human search for pattern is especially prevalent in baseball. What is the whole concept of "clutch hitting" but our minds searching for a pattern and a reason? This mediocre hitter comes through in the clutch a few more times than his overall numbers would suggest and our brain cannot help but insist that he has some sort of superpower and keen focus that makes him better when it counts. This great hitter fails in the clutch situation a few times more than his overall numbers would suggest and our brain cannot help but feel that he is lacking some sort of internal fortitude. Our minds simply do not deal well with what author Paul Auster called the music of chance. We need to see patterns. It’s in our DNA."

I think the need for pattern explains many of the reactions from Mets fans these days. At one ridiculous extreme is the sentiment that Victorino>Beltran because Victorino recently won a World Series. More subtly, the attempt to blame one thing on the team's struggles, such as "clutch hitting" or "the rotation after Johan" represents a similar fallacy. While I don't deny that either of those things are a problem (they certainly are), the idea that one or the other is the "primary" problem is a failure of the imagination. Mets fans shouldn't ask which weakness is more worrisome, but to what extent each is a weakness and how they can be corrected.

In many ways, this mentality has been the fundamental shortcoming of the Omar Minaya regime. Why were the results in 2008 largely the same as 2007? The process had not changed: assume the team would perform exactly the same the next season if left alone, identify one weakness and address it. In 2007, they failed to realize how much had gone right the year before, specifically in the bullpen, and got caught off-guard when their luck swung the other way. In 2008, the weakness was the starting pitching. The Mets brought in Johan, not recognizing that Moises Alou was not a dependable solution for left field. Scarily enough, this past offseason feels like exactly the same thing: finally addressing the bullpen, without realizing that their young, overworked, and rehabbing rotation might not be all that dependable, especially in the early going. But I digress.

The sentiment that the team lacks some intangible desire also seems to come from a more basic relationship to those guys on our TV screens. The Mets don't look like they care. You just spent an entire offseason hypothesizing the teams' success, earnestly hoping for a 20-0 start, but they haven't won, and don't look nearly as pissed as you. When David Wright pops out with the bases loaded he looks on, mostly disinterested, packing his batting gloves in his helmet. It's not that he doesn't care. He's just a professional. David knows the season is long and, in a game based mostly on patience and seizing inevitable opportunities, having a temper and wildly hacking next time up would be a disaster. Don't ever doubt he cares: since he graduated high school, his sole professional goal has been to hit for the New York Mets.

I know Carlos Beltran's non-slide looks terrible. It was. Carlos Beltran, however, is one of the smartest baserunners of all time. Similarly, David Wright is a great hitter, those runners left on base will eventually come home, and John Maine is still recovering from shoulder surgery. I've always liked the baseball simulation game Out of The Park 9, because you can hit the "finish today" button 50 times in a row, without having to hear the plethora of irrational thoughts that come with too much time to think about too little. Starting a season 6-9 doesn't look nearly as bad when you can peek ahead and see that you're 45-30 in a few months. I can't promise anything, but barring Jerry Manuel nuking the rotation, the Mets should be in it.

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mostly for the OOTP 9 reference. Greatest baseball video game series ever.

by cjmulrain on Apr 24, 2009 8:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No, no, no!

We need Veteran Leadership™, all out hustle™, and for everybody to give 110%™. Oh, and we also need to knock down some batters so they know we need bid’ness!

That is all.

All joking aside, I thought yesterday was the first truly bad loss in the sense of really having no chance pretty early.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Apr 24, 2009 8:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Concurred.

Yesterday was the first game where I thought, god, this game is bad.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Apr 24, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also rec'd

Waiting for the first over-the-top rebuttal about how Sam and the rest of us just don’t get it . . .

'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 9:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i don't have a rebuttal, but I do have a few hopefully respectable reactions

to stir things up—i’m just not sure why this needs to be said. Its sort of a blend of optimism and stuff that almost no one on AA disagrees with. So this sounds more like a strawman argument to me, or part of a continuing reaction to one poster on AA who comes in to ruffle feathers every blue moon. But perhaps I don’t listen to enough talk radio or read Metsblog to understand where this is coming from, because I never hear any serious commentator actually say these things. Is Joe Morgan saying these things? cuz I don’t pay anymore attention to what he says than i do what Ronald McDonald says.

While I don’t have any violent disagreements here, and enjoy much of what Samt graciously provides, I find the assurances that our players are “professional,” “care” and that things will “get better” hardly more useful than the concepts of “grit” “fire” and the rest. (I do wonder how one could go about showing that Carlos Beltran, god and AA love him, is ""one of the smartest baserunners of all time"? Sounds a little hyperbolic. He may be above average but is subject to brain-cramps on the paths as much as anyone else). Exchanging new biases for old is how it comes off to me.

Anyway, I’m sure I’ll draw some unfriendly fire for this and even be run out of town (please no torches), but I get it, enough already, this team isn’t losing because of grit fire heart—what’s next? cause they still suck as a team and have for quite a while now. As Primus said, is it luck? Really?

Also, judging by “Man in the Dark,” at least, Paul Auster is kind of a shitty writer.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno

I think the point is that you can’t say this team sucks. They don’t. They will almost certainly win a boatload of games. And 6-and-9 doesn’t reflect that.

Yeah, it’s preaching to the choir to say on AA, “The sky is not falling.” But that’s why we come here. Because, if you look anywhere else, the Mets are losing losers who only know how to lose and everyone stinks but Johan.

I think it’s good to be reminded that there’s still a whole week of April left. I don’t need twenty posts a day like this. But one a week helps me keep perspective.

batting helmets. batting titles. obp.

by Durelo on Apr 24, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Durelo got part of what I would have said

This post is preaching to the choir a bit because most of the people reading and commenting on this site understand what he’s getting at. However, I think we are seeing a bit of the MetsBloggy/NY Post/Daily News/WFAN style of “FUCK THESE FUCKING LOSERS BLARG BLART BLART” comments and posts around here lately, and hopefully Sam’s post can speak to that a little bit and offer a more reasoned, or perhaps more patient, perspective.

I’ll add this as well - I’m guessing Sam’s references to whether the players “care” or not and to David Wright being a “professional” have something to do with the fact that there are a significant number of people out there in Mets and baseball-lands who believe that displaying anything short of a Paul O’Neill-esque tantrum on the field means that the player doesn’t care and, thus, lacks the requisite heart, fire, etc. This is certainly not the case. That might not be what Sam was getting at, but that’s what I got out of it.

The fact is that this team is not as good as we’d like it to be but neither is it as bad as some folks’ reactions would have you believe. As much as I’m an optimist about the rest of the season, part of me is terrified of what the reaction will be if the Mets lose even one game this weekend against the Nats. People just gotta calm the fuck down.

'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoops

that strikethrough is completely unintended. If any of the powers that be can fix it, that would be great.

'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

And to add to that, I don’t think this uproar among the talk radio fanbase would be nearly as bad if the Mets started, say, 25-20, and then had a 5-10 stretch or something. Its under a microscope because you don’t have to do much math to extrapolate a 6-9 record and a 7.50 ERA, and its under a microscope because just like every year, February and March were two of the most boring, excruciating baseball months of the year.

by Meddler on Apr 24, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To an extent, I am preaching to the choir

but then I see this thing show up in my RSS feed and I remember what drove me to write this.

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Apr 24, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

metsblog question of the day
"Is there a connection between passion-and-intensity and performance in baseball?"

this should make for some fun reading…

by englishgrey on Apr 24, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha well...

i hope you didn’t forget to vote in the fan confidence ratings!

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On second reading

Cerrone is hitting some good points, but I still disagree with his conclusion.

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Apr 24, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mets fans at some point became spoiled brats

Well, at least the ‘fans’ you hear on talk radio (and a blog to remain nameless). Since strike three wainwright to beltran, somehow they assume that the mets are ordained division champs and a 6-9 start means they need something to blame. As long as Wright, Reyes and Beltran put up great numbers every year, ‘fans’ have to blame clutchness because they remember a couple at bats last year when three of the best players in the game struck out with RISP.

It doesn’t make me happy either, but I think we have to step back and look at what we’ve got and be thankful. Is this team perfect? No. Is any team? No. So I’m being Mr. Positive from now on. They need a little positive energy. Let’s Go Mets.

by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Apr 24, 2009 9:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well put

I would suggest that the Mets pitchers knock a few guys down from time to time, but I agree that over the long haul they should be right in the thick of things. Thanks for saying it so succinctly. The Mets are failing by their fans expectations, and certainly by their own, but they are professional enough to know how good they are, and they will get it worked out. You gotta believe!

by zmanmetfan on Apr 24, 2009 10:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yes

i hadn’t really thought about omar being myopic in addressing this team’s weaknesses, but it seems like a really good diagnosis of why this team hasn’t been able to improve significantly over the last two seasons.

clean sweep of the nats should calm the hysteria for a little bit. and santana’s on the mound tonight, so that’s always comforting.

by englishgrey on Apr 24, 2009 10:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Numbers

Mets’ H+BB: 208 (145+63)
Mets’ R: 69

Opponents’ H+BB: 183 (129+54)
Opponents’ R: 72

This situation is like in Settlers of Catan when there is no 5 rolled for like the first 30 turns, so you can’t build jack because you don’t have any grain. It’s not the universe conspiring against you; just bad luck…

Dear Liz Lemon: While other women have bigger boobs than you, no other woman has as big a heart. When I saw you getting ready to go out and get nailed by a bunch of guys last night, I knew for sure it was over between us, and for the first time since the '86 World Series, I cried... I cried...

by hotspur on Apr 24, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

… am I the only one who has no idea what Hotspur is talking about?

by JoshNY on Apr 24, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you may not be interested in the Settlers of Catan but...

they’re interested in you!
I have no idea either.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am embarrassed to say that I understand the reference

Here

The Cities and Knights expansion to the original is more fun though.

by ams258 on Apr 24, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been playing (way too much) on XBox Live

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catan

It’s even more infuriating than watching this team play. The random number generator is not very random and the online playerbase is made up of every slack-jawed yokel on the internet. And they keep beating me…

It is addictive, though.

Dear Liz Lemon: While other women have bigger boobs than you, no other woman has as big a heart. When I saw you getting ready to go out and get nailed by a bunch of guys last night, I knew for sure it was over between us, and for the first time since the '86 World Series, I cried... I cried...

by hotspur on Apr 24, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i do know who Liz Lemon is

sigh. I’m old.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

because of you guys

I knew what the topic was when I saw this

by JoshNY on Apr 28, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't have up until 3 days ago

but amazingly, someone on a political blog I read made a reference to it and I Wikipedia’d it. I felt so “in the know” when I read hotspurs post.

by cjmulrain on Apr 24, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didnt get the reference

but I’m pretty sure this is awesome, so I’m going to go ahead of rec this.

by Sokojoe on Apr 24, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great article

Now I feel much better, thank you :)

by momill15 on Apr 24, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Very well said

Rec’d, and I’d do it again if I could

by Meddler on Apr 24, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome

Agreed on all points, especially the note about players supposedly not caring. The quickness of members of all forms of media to psychoanalyze baseball players baffles me; it strikes me as about the least professional thing in the world, and yet everybody does it all the time. How can anyone dare suggest David Wright doesn’t care? Are you really telling me you coast your way into becoming one of the top .1% of your field?

Maybe I’m wrong, but if one of the world’s top-rated surgeons botched a heart transplant, do you think anyone would chalk it up to the lack of killer instinct?

by TedBerg on Apr 24, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

unless the surgical mishap was partially the result of

continuous, careless, preventable, systemic errors over the course of several years, no one but the dead persons’ loved ones would even care.
:)

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eeek

Poor choice of words on my part… should’ve said grit.

by TedBerg on Apr 24, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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