Open Thread: Mets vs Nationals
by Eric Simon on Apr 24, 2009 6:03 PM EDT
Email
PrintWashington Nationals at New York Mets, Apr 24, 2009 7:10 PM EDT
281 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
after not winning a game this week
it will be nice to see johan be johan 7 strong k’s 7 walks 3 give up 3 hits
not to mention it would be nice if we could score more that 2 run today
by JADDENHOPKINS on Apr 24, 2009 6:44 PM EDT reply actions
Santana = teh nasty
That half-inning was humiliating.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions
made the first three batters look silly
swinging all around everything.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
steal home
it’s our only hope
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
where was Dukes running?
the bench i hope
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
4 k's in 2 innings
i want every pitcher we have looking at him right
by JADDENHOPKINS on Apr 24, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions
I'm on gamecast today
Looks like Santana is so crisp.
the second time this inning a full count
and johan comes threw every time
by JADDENHOPKINS on Apr 24, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions
The Ks are nice
But I wouldn’t mind seeing a couple of quick pop-outs to keep the pitch count down.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions
yeah the pen needs a break
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll take 8 IP and the win
Let Frankie pitch the ninth and give the rest of the boys the night off.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Olsen getting the outside pitch
davyboy creeping up for the league lead in k’s
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
I see your Ta-tis
Nice rip.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions
da plane!
Fernando wants to play!
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Probably about four or five feet too low?
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Be hungry, hippo
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Holy crap 6 Ks
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
does anyone know
who leads the league in strikeouts
by JADDENHOPKINS on Apr 24, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions
Jesus
Olsen is terrible
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
no malaise, no malaise, no malaise
we can beat the gnats, we can!
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
wow that puts it in perspective
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
i vote the mets will leave15 on and santana will K 16
i’m an inveterate optimist
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Alberto Gonzalez, eh?
I wonder if he thinks facing Santana is torture.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions
nah, he'd just be happy to have a job
cause apparently no law firms will hire him. although i hear ashcroft just opened his own firm…
Does anyone know how to find team LOBs?
I’ve checked the major sites.
I simply will not believe it if the Mets don’t lead at least the NL right now.
If no one knows, I am going to add up the total from all the box scores.
by JohnPeterson on Apr 24, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
i hope you have a lot of fingers
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I really would like to meet the person who defends the silly premise that:
“Uh-huh! We leave men on base, but that’s not such a bad thing. At least we’re getting them on base. Uh-huh!”
Please, explain to me again why this is such a good thing when you can’t bring them home?
by OVERALLSPORTSFAN on Apr 24, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions
it's better to leave three on base every inning
than to go down 1-2-3, because then you have chances to score
by DevonEdwards on Apr 24, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
But it's painfully obvious that we can't score.
I really don’t see the difference.
by OVERALLSPORTSFAN on Apr 24, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
you're painfully stupid
with runners on base, you can score. with runners on base, no runs can score unless you hit a homer. are you that thick?
by DevonEdwards on Apr 24, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this the kind of immature response that pervades this blog?
For the most part everyone here seems to be respectful, courteous and informative. Why would you want to lessen the blog with such a childish response. If you’ve got an opinion, feel free to state it, but try doing so in a manner that doesn’t demean the blog. If you want to be rude, try Politico or the Huffington Post.
The “we can’t score” statement was a generality. Perhaps I should have used “we can’t score enough” based on the numbers of people we leave on base. The Mets are horrendous at this. Can anyone explain why; other than, “how the bat comes off the ball”? Perhaps there’s something that the manager is doing wrong. Is he not recognizing bunt or hit and run situations. There’s obviously something that’s NOT being done becuase the Mets have a habit of leaving men on and NOT bringing them home.
This point has been discussed here ad nauseum. Something is wrong but no one here has bothered to or is smart enough to demonstrate what exactly ‘that wrong’ is.
by OVERALLSPORTSFAN on Apr 24, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
There's little doubt
Certain members of this offense are “pressing” at the moment. I think there are a few other reasons for the large LOB numbers early on. For one, the Mets have gotten close to zero offensive production from their Catchers. In the first few games, when Beltran and Church were the hottest hitters batting 5th and 6th, and Brian Schneider was OPSing like .400, that was a big time rally killer. The station to station baserunning bugs me a bit too. This team hasn’t attempted a straight steal in a while, not counting Tatis’ ill advised swipe in the last game at St. Louis (and the balk on Church’s attempt). But also, not taking extra bases, not scoring from second on a base hit. There is an element of aggressiveness there that seems to be lacking.
But I think the biggest thing in a lot of these cases, its a statistical anomaly, a small sample size fluke. D-Wright is 5 for 22 w/RISP so far this season. That’s a .227 batting average. Well, guess what? If he goes 3 for next 3, that would be 8 for 25, a .320 average. There is something to accounting for the plexiglass principle here, which simply means that when there’s an unusual statistical divergence, like a disconnect between OBA and Team Runs, it will likely normalize over a big enough set, just because such a statistical disconnect is unlikely to begin with, and its equally unlikely to repeat itself over and over again.
by Mark Himmelstein on Apr 25, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
To add to that thought
I also think that offense and pitching are related in a way that isn’t always immediately obvious. When you’re pitching is constantly putting you behind, you can’t play with the same kind of offensive aggressiveness. You can’t hit and run as much, you can’t steal bases, you can’t take extra bases. You have to play for the big inning, instead of forcing the action, and that can make a team seem “lethargic”. I believe this was a big part of the Mets late-game offensive woes last year. Their bullpen was so awful, it took away a lot of their offensive strengths, such as baserunning and manufacturing runs.
As for why they’ve scored so little so far for Johan, I think the reason for that has more to do with Aaron Harrang, Josh Johnson, and Yovanni Gallardo than it does anything else.
by Mark Himmelstein on Apr 25, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Thank you for taking the time to provide this lucid and very interesting analysis.
I have one question for you in regards to your second reply post.
When [your] pitching is constantly putting you behind, you can’t play with the same kind of offensive aggressiveness.If the manager believes that he can’t be aggressive on the basepaths with his runners due to the fact that his pitching staff is likely to give up runs, wouldn’t it induce him to act in just the opposite manner?
He realizes that his bats most likely aren’t going to produce optimal power by hitting homeruns so, he needs to take an aggressive stance by attempting to steal more often and being more proactive in regards to emphasizng hit and run plays. He needs to put the pressure on the defensive players for making plays if he knows that the pitching alone (you mentioned Harrang, Johnson and Gallard) is overwhelming the batters.
It seems to me that one unorthodox method of producing offense if pitchers are dominating otherwise productive batters is for the manager to do what’s least expected. If runners are on 1st and 3rd with an out or less and Beltran or Delgado is up to bat, why not attempt a bunt towards the 1st base line? Certainly this isn’t the traditional method of produdcing offense with such ‘large’ bats but it definitely wouldn’t be expected and it would most likely catch the defense off guard.
J. Manuel had these players execute intensive hitting drills during spring training; did this include bunting? There are numerous ways to create offense. It’s high time J. Manuel attempted other methods other than rotation juggling.
by OVERALLSPORTSFAN on Apr 25, 2009 4:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with your sentiment
And I think baserunning has been a big offensive issue so far, and my one real peeve with the offense as a unit so far. But my point was more about when you’re playing from behind, like when you’re down two or three runs in the middle/late innings, rather than anticipating your pitching giving up more runs. Unless you’ve got your fifth starter out there, you don’t really anticipate giving up lots of runs. But if your pitcher has already given them up, and you find yourself training 5-2 or something in the 6th inning, the offensive options narrow a bit, and station to station, bloop and a blast baseball becomes the advised method.
As for the bunting idea, I don’t think you’ll ever see Beltran or Delgado squeeze. While its not necessarily a terrible idea, over the long haul, you’ll get much greater run production letting those two swing away with runners on than you will by bunting. Sure, you’ll get your share of strikeouts letting them swing away, but you’ll also get your share of extra base hits to go along with singles and sac-flys. Plus, its not like these guys are particularly experienced bunters. Beltran knows how to do it, and Delgado’s caught defenses napping occasionally with the bases empty, but I can’t imagine bunting practice is a big part of the routine for the Carloses in the spring. What if they bunt it right back to the pitcher? Instant double play. Better to take the chance they strike out and hope they hit one into the gap or at least lift a flyball.
Aside from baserunning, I would advise Jerry NOT try to do to much to change things offensively. He’ll just breed more tension and tension will breed “pressing”. The runs will come as long as guys keep getting on base and putting the ball in play. I think he actually needs to do less rather than more. IMO, Jerry has taken over the running game too much. He needs to let his baserunners do the decision making. intelligent baserunning is a strength for this team, and its not being taken advantage of appropriately.
by Mark Himmelstein on Apr 25, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Leaving men on base is not good
But getting them on in the first place is good.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
The history of baseball statistics has shown
That the relationship between OBA and runs scored is strongly correlated. There isn’t a huge range of divergence, over a large enough sample size, between how many runs a team might score with a good OBA. So a teams OBA can be considered somewhat predictive in terms of how many runs a team should be expected to score.
by Mark Himmelstein on Apr 24, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Noted.
This is the rule. The Mets seem to be the exception.
by OVERALLSPORTSFAN on Apr 25, 2009 4:48 AM EDT up reply actions
In a small set though
Exceptions are the norm in a small sample. Look at the OPS and batting leaders around the league. You can bet Carlos Beltran won’t have a .400 batting average after game 162, and Jimmy Rollins won’t have a .400 OPS either. Its the same with team stats. Its only 16 games, 10% of the season. As the set gets bigger, wacky statistical outliers will creep back towards the norm. You won’t see a disconnect between team OBA and Team Runs that’s multiple standard deviations apart.
I don’t know if you’re a poker fan, but think about it this way: The best poker players will experience far more “bad beats” than the worst ones, and the worst players will deal far more “bad beats” than the best. This is because the better players will wind up in situations where they have a large statistical advantage more of the time. They’ll get their money in with ah 80% chance of winning a big pot, but they’ll still lose that pot 20% of the time. So in any individual hand, the better player may lose such a hand. But if you repeat the same situation 100 times, the better player is going to win a ton of money. He won’t win each individual hand, but he’ll win far more than he’ll lose.
by Mark Himmelstein on Apr 25, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Process>Results
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
Definitely the Mets mantra this season.
by OVERALLSPORTSFAN on Apr 24, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
But its not entirely game of causation
Its a game of probabilities. A batter can’t always control what the ball does off his bat. He can’t control where the fielders are positioned or what kinds of plays they are able to make. He can to a certain degree, but look at that last play, Dukes misplayed that, and a runner scores from first. Before that, Johnson was positioned off the line on Santana’s hard hit grounder, and was able to get the out at home. He didn’t have to position there, but he was.
by Mark Himmelstein on Apr 24, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Last year, the Mets left 58.76% of runners on.
That’s fifth from the bottom in the NL. League average was 60.37%.
Holy crap, that was almost not a slap!
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Oh man Dukes will not like that
That’s gonna angry up the blood.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions
which can lead to an embigguned head
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
Milledge would have had that
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Weak
Gary’s right – that was either a triple or an error, not the “single and error” it was scored.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions
Yea "you can't split the baby there."
King Solomon reference FTW.
by JohnPeterson on Apr 24, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I expect better quality from the booth tonight
Gary/Keith > Gary/Ron
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Rons got all the emmys though
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Gary sounds pissed off and/or depressed.
by JohnPeterson on Apr 24, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
that's why i like him when he isnt jinxing mets pitchers
he’s just a fan who gets paid
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh man they're booing Dub
I mean dude is having it rough with the Ks right now but what the hell?
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions
Mets fans in general piss me off right now
I wanna tell them to stop being tools and expecting the worst.
david wright
is on devon alert level orange
Ugh
I can’t take MetsBlog anymore. What a festering pool of irrationality. Someone actually just suggested we bench David Wright. Good call!
This seems like a nice place. Let’s go Mets! Anyone else into the Law of Large Numbers???
look at santanas minor league numbas!
whoa
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Adam Dunn just hits 40 hrs a year and calls it a year!
squeel like a pig!
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
i just knew that is johan bunts
something would happen and he would be safe
by JADDENHOPKINS on Apr 24, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions
Tonight's Mets-Nats AAA battle:
Syracuse 4-0 Buffalo
Players of interest:
For them:
- Blastings Thrilledge – 3 for 4, 1 R (OPS up to a lofty .590)
For us:
- Brandon Knight – 7.0 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 3 BB, 5 K, 1 Pickoff (Blastings!); 1 for 2 (2B)
- Eddie Kunz – 1.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB
- Nick Evans – 0 for 4
- Fartinez – 0 for 4
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions
come on reyes
lose the doo rag
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Voltron gets a triple
Happy Birthday!
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions
what would you if you were the scorer?
i’d rather not make dukes angry.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Voltron has 1000 RBI
Each one as unclutch as the one before it.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions
Slappy!
Poor running by Santana, tho. He should be traded or cut.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions
I hope the fans are chanting
DFA DFA DFA
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Apr 24, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha well Santana has only himself to blame on that one
he overran second after Uncle McSlappy delivered yet again
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Damn!
He might be having trouble at the plate right now, but Dub’s glove looks awesome.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions
you know, Delgado is pretty good at scooping i realize
wright gets him a lot of practice
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
He's still bouncing a few
but his throwing looks much improved so far this year.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
he looks a LOT better on defense so far
but i still think he has a second baseman’s arm :)
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
And on those long ones
That’s practiced, they work on the one hopper on balls to David’s right. Its the ones where Delgado comes off the bag and tags the runners on the short throws where he really saves Dub some errors.
by Mark Himmelstein on Apr 24, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
He's also good at coming off the bag down the first base line and tagging the runner.
Wright gets him lots of practice.
by JohnPeterson on Apr 24, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
he's gonna get his arm all cliff floyded i worry
one of these days
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Man
Wright may be striking out way too much, but he is sharp defensively so far this season. Better than I ever remember him in April.
by Mark Himmelstein on Apr 24, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions
Jesus!
Flores. Santana is getting victimized by the softies
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
The Mets have left 121 runners on base this season.
(not incl. tonight)
That’s 8.0666 runs per game.
That sounds like a lot.
seems like it should be better
but I might be thinking of these players a few years ago
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
its ANdy Hernandy!
threat avoided
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
I just joined the program here.
I see David is continuing his gold glove ways, and Johan is pitching well. How’d we get the runs?
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Johan struck out 6 of the first 7 hitters
RBI triple for Beltran and RBI single for slappy, but we’ve left em loaded a couple times too.
by Mark Himmelstein on Apr 24, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Odds Dub gets booed if he Ks here, despite his great defensive play last inning:
I’m guessing 1:2.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions
Nevermind!
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
At least David's httitting it well, when he's hitting it.
And in other news, it’s time to cut Gary Sheffield.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
or bring in the fences
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh
That was a good rip in other ballparks. Shea, for example. But it wouldn’t break my heart.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
He didn't hit it very well.
My MLB.tv froze up at the moment of contact. I was like, “ughh… pop-up.” Then it unfroze and Gary was all excited and it confused me. But, yea.
by JohnPeterson on Apr 24, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
NICK JOHNSON HOME RUN
are you shitting me?
Nick Johnson is, as my friends would say, a chunk.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
he was antagonized by the marshmellow man portrayal above
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
everybody use two hands!
Hippo should’ve listened to JamesK
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions
That chaching sound you just heard was Omir Santos selling his condo in Buffalo.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
+1
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
aw Castro
Dukes raaarrrr
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
I don't know
But I did my research for the swag question. Every home game so far has drawn at least 35,000.
that's quite the delay you got there.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
That's gotta be a triple
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions
if we can't score here
we really need some more bats
by JADDENHOPKINS on Apr 24, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions
come on blastro
hit it hard somewhere
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Apr 24, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions
crud
not hard enough.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Not with Hammer
he can’t bunt for shit.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell yeah
Get this guy some runs
"It's Father's Day today at Shea, so to all you fathers out there, Happy Birthday." -- Ralph Kiner
yea serially
what does johan have to do?
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Apr 24, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Kearns is helping
Hammer!
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions
Kearns makes me feel better about Murph's defense
by Mark Himmelstein on Apr 24, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions
At least Murphy has an excuse for mental errors
Like Tatis’ triple. Kearns has been an outfielder for how many years now?
by Mark Himmelstein on Apr 24, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Kearns makes me feel better about MY defense
he does not look like an athelete
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He's been a HUGE disappointment
The Reds were so high on him when he came up, with good reason. He hit .337 and .342 in ’04 and ’05 at AAA. (Small sample sizes, but still.)
We're playing Dj Ötzi at Citi?
HEEEEEEEEEEY, HEEEY BABY (ooh ah). It’s gonna feel like Oktoberfest in Flushing.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions
Jeez
Anyone else enjoy it when the umpire shifts his K zone a few inches between innings? I sure don’t.
by Mark Himmelstein on Apr 24, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions
i dont believe in K zones
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not really been consistent
Johan was having pitches at the knees called balls in the second inning, which turned to strikes for Olsen in the bottom of the inning.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Also,
Jesus Flores is good at framing pitches.
by JohnPeterson on Apr 24, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't know if anyone else caught this
Gary said earlier in the broadcast that Omar considers letting Flores go his biggest mistake as Mets GM.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
he must reflect on signing oliver perez a bit more
that’s gotta be up there too
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
The Castillo contract would have to be on the list
I imagine he’s loathe to say anything about current players.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
though one could take this as an implicit dig on his current catchers
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
With good cause, I suppose
I looks pretty atrocious.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice cutoff Sheffy
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Castro, my friend, you are digging your own grave.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
I've seen enough of Castro
I hate “the Hammer” willingham
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
woo
97 for Parns. Like it.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions
I would just like to post this from Jerry Crasnick's chat on ESPN
Josh (Queens): jerry what do you think of this trade-maine,church,f mart and delgado for halladay and rios?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Josh, I think it ain’t happening in this or any other lifetime.
How did he escape from the self contained Metsblogosphere? He’s making Mets fans look bad.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
And this, from the Jayson Stark chat.
dave (mpls.): it just seems like the mets don’t have anyone who really wants to be a clubhouse leader – not even manuel. they’re all pretty damn good players, but they seem reluctant to step outside of their egos, take hold of their team, and shake it a little to wake it up.
SportsNation Jayson Stark: I don’t know whether these guys are “reluctant to step outside of their egos.” But I do see a team that lacks the grit of the Phillies. They don’t play with a lot of fire. They don’t do the little things. They don’t give you that we-not-me feeling. So is that because they lack leadership, or because the pieces, talented as they are, just don’t fit. This is the year I think we’ll find out, once and for all.
BARF
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Blart.
Stark gets a 9/10 for that answer. He forgot to use the word “heart.”
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i just like that parnell comes in with the gas
tired of the mets soft tossin bullpen of yore
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
as you say it
K with a 98 mph fastball. love it.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I will be real real patient with Parnell and Murphy. Why?
Cause I likes em, and I can do that.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
This anti-smoking commercial
Why would I choose to smoke if I knew there was the possibility of amputations?
Because smoking is awesome.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions
Parns and Pedro F do their jobs
A pity to maybe end up using five pitchers tonight but getting the win tonight is kind of important.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions
Ugh
stupid quirk-by-design right field, all robbing Dub of a hit and RBI.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions
Ugh
I completely forgot they had a rally going, and got too focused on Sawx-Skanks. And now the Sawx are starting to lose control.
Putz hitting 95?
That seems a little better.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 9:45 PM EDT reply actions
he must've read that lookout landing
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I speak no Spanish
but I think I get the point. Besides, not just the wave, but behind home plate as Putz starts to release the pitch? Bad timing, folks.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah there's barely anyone seated behind there and they still manage to distract the met pitcher
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I can think of only two instances where I enjoyed the wave:
1) when I was a little kid, my family was at a game at Shea where they asked the crowd to do the wave so it could be filmed for “Three Men and a Little Lady”. Little me loved that shit.
2) Last year in England, I was watching a cricket match between my beloved New Zealand Black Caps and the dreaded English. My drunk Kiwi buddies kept trying to get a wave started — they would yell “5, 4, 3, 2, 1 WHEEE!” and start waving but the English folks in the crowd would not comply. The non-compliant English would get booed mercilessly each time. This went on for about 15 minutes, maybe 10 or 12 attempts at getting a wave started. It was hilarious.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's pour it on, lads . . .
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions
phucking phillies just slamed lindstrom
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Josh Johnson must be in the clubhouse
smashing shit with a bat.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I turned away for a minute
what’d he do?
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
he likes to pull shirts
could be worse, he could like fire fire fire
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Weird
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Kip Winger on the mound
really should be able to score here
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
She's only 17.
Thanks for the insurance run.
by MetsfaninVA on Apr 24, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
he's "headed for a heartbreak"
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
"miles away" from the plate
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Shut up, Stuart
Uh huh-huh-huh, huh-huh-huh, Winger sucks.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
you beat me to it
cause i was distracted reading a glowing amazon.com review of their greatest hits cd. the guy was totally dead serious.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The walk is good
I’m rooting against a GS here. I have the under on HRs.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
Blart.
So this is the Frankie Rodriguez that Angels fans were telling us about.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions
this would be 50th way to lose a ballgame
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Apr 24, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
!@#$@ Omar
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
PIITB!
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 24, 2009 10:17 PM EDT reply actions
that was ugly
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Oy Frankie
He got it done, so I can’t complain. Not the prettiest of wins, but a much needed one.
by Mark Himmelstein on Apr 24, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
After hearing of Lindstrom crapping the bed against the Phils, I don’t know whether to be upset or just grin and say “Good riddance.” Is it possible that I can do both?
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!
Apparently we're not the only team
that can have four game losing streaks.
by Mark Himmelstein on Apr 24, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Youkilis Homerun
Game over
"Since we became accelerated readers, we never leave the house." - Los Campesinos
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
FanShots
Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.
Recommended FanShots
Recent FanShots
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Certain photos copyright © 2012 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
