Offday Applesauce
We now have a whole day to stew over yesterday's depressing 4-3 loss to the Marlins, blowing Santana's awesome start. Tuesday's goat was Sean Green, this time it was JJ Putz. Deja vu all over again, I guess. Poor Johan.
Meet the Mets
Even though the game was nine innings long, the play/move that attracted the most attention was Jerry Manuel's decision to pinch hit Omir Santos for Ramon Castro with the bases loaded and two outs in the ninth inning. Santos proceeded to pop out. After the game, Manuel said that Santos' compact swing gave him a better shot against fireballer Matt Lindstrom. The Daily News Adam Rubin thinks Manuel is done with Castro.
We saw our first video replay of the season at Citi Field on Fernando Tatis' first home run of the season.
David Wright continued to struggle yesterday, grounding into a key double play with runners in scoring position, committing an error, and striking out looking on three pitches in the ninth. Let the calls to trade Wright begin.
Don't get on Matt Cerrone quite yet for being a company man optimist.
Metstradamus feels almost comfortable with losing in a way we've grown accustomed to.
For those of you can withstand watching Sean Hannity, here he is interviewing Darryl Strawberry.
A few bits of news and notes to report from the Daily News. Castillo and Delgado are hoping to play this weekend and Casey Fossum has declared free agency. Good luck with that.
Around the NL East
Florida closer Matt Lindstrom now has a 3-0 record, 3 saves, and a 1.45 ERA against the Mets. I wouldn't really describe yesterday as "mastery" though.
The Nationals avoided the sweep, beating the Phillies 4-1 last night behind pitcher Scott Olsen. Julian Tavarez closed out the game for the Nats, replacing disgraced Joel Hanrahan. Prior to the game, the Nationals and Marlins completed a deal, with Washington receiving reliever Logan Kensing for pitching prospect Kyle Gunderson. The Nats also activated shortstop Christian Guzman, who got the start and led off.
Philly pitchers Cole Hamels and Brad Lidge are expecting to be well enough to play this weekend against the Mets. Perfect.
The Cardinals took two of three from the Braves, beating Javier Vazquez and Atlanta 5-3 last night. Atlanta had a 3-1 lead in the fourth inning, which disappeared after a four run Cardinal rally.
Brave catcher Brian McCann is practicing in the minors with contact lenses to help fix his blurred vision. Meanwhile, second baseman Kelly Johnson continues to struggle and was benched for yesterday's game.
Around MLB
Our favorite closer, Heath Bell, is putting his foot in his mouth again, this time bad mouthing Huston Street and Kyle Farnsworth. Seriously? What have those two done to shield themselves from this type of criticism?
Twins catcher Mike Redmond is awesome.
Maybe the Rays aren't as good as everyone thought, much like the Mets.
Nick Swisher = Mickey Mantle. No? How about Bernie Williams? No to that either? Bah.
A-ROD NEWS: He might come back soon, but that cannot possibly have anything to do with him taking steroids since high school.
Zack Greinke finally allowed in some earned runs, ending the streak at 43 innings, but the Royals still won.
Finally, in other pitching news, Edison Volquez is starting to turn it around, starting in a one hitter over the Astros.
Take a break today everyone. No baseball thoughts for at least one hour today. Good luck.
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Minor League Stuff
Figgy started yesterday for the Bisons against the Red Wings here in Buffalo: 7 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 2 K. Sadly, the Bisons hit only seven singles in a 1-0 loss.
Fartinez went 0-3 with 2 K and 1 BB (now .233/.288/.411/.698).
Nick Evans went 1-3, 1 K, 1 BB (now .102/.243/.271/.514).
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 30, 2009 10:11 AM EDT reply actions
"WRIGHT MUST GO!!!"
That post contains some gems:
He did not hit in the clutch for the latter part of last season and he does not look any better this season. I can’t throw stats out with what he’s hitting in different situations but everyone can see it. He is getting booed out of the stadium and we’re only a month into the season.
and then, after talking about how terrible Wright is:
The starting pitching is atrocious, so why dont we send Wright to Toronto in exchange for Roy Halladay???
Full of win.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 30, 2009 10:15 AM EDT reply actions
The number of question marks
makes it 3 times as special. though I would have preferred “?!?!?!?!”
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Apr 30, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I refuse to visit websites
written by people who don’t know baseballreference.com exists. I’m not just talking about baseball websites, if I found out the writer of a political blog doesn’t know about BBR, I’m outta there.
The Holy Circle of Baseball Resources
Baseball Reference
FanGraphs
That new Historical WAR Database (that thing is awesome)
Fire Joe Morgan
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Whoops
Misread what he wrote. Thought he was talking about some political reference page that I’d never heard of.
by James Kannengieser on Apr 30, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I really can't believe how awful that trade Wright article is.
Like, despicably bad.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
I'm surprised it didn't show up as a FanPost here first
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 30, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Rubin makes a nice little point today
About Wright:
That said, given the boos rather than support, I’ve concluded I’d probably never want to play in New York if I were a player. There’s no one who suffers with the Mets’ collapses more than Wright, which is probably one of the reasons he’s gotten himself in that rut. (Go ahead with the ‘we pay money for tickets, we can boo’ argument. Very original.)
drunken cretins screaming obscenities
would be WAY below high taxes and bad weather on my list.
I’m a little surprised.
Booing
Wright is silly, but Wright putting too much pressure on himself seems to be a bit of a problem – it’s not an abstract “clutch” or “unclutch” thing, it’s something that he probably is going to have to get a little better at dealing with.
He made some statement
about trying too many different things to get back into a groove, and perhaps needing to pick one approach and stick with it. This makes some sense to me.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 30, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
The Adam Rubin article though is very good I thought
At least, I think he is 100% right about the fact that Manuel is determined to to have the Mets jettison Castro in favor of Santos when Schnid comes off the DL. That’s what that move was all about yesterday, trying to have Santos come up with a big hit and be the hero. At the expense of actually trying to give your team the best chance to win. This is what people should be talking about from yesterday’s game, not trading David Wright.
I don’t advise reading the comments though after the article unless you have a strong stomach. Let’s just say they were “Scottyesque”
It's the biggest overreaction
to the smallest sample size. Not liking Castro is one thing, but alienating him — sadly, the best guy we’ve got — in favor of a career crappy minor leaguer is criminal.
I totally agree
and I am getting more and more upset about it as time goes on. I said in another post, that I am amazed that what Jerry did is even legal. Delaying the game that much to bring in a hitter from the bullpen!! I have never seen it. Has anybody ever done this before??
What's amazing
is that the delay caused no one to think better of the decision.
Nailed it
Castro should be pretty pissed about what happened yesterday. Here’s a guy with two hits in the game, whose had a long career as a back-up and never complains about not starting (injuries aside), and has a handful of HUGE hits for us over the last couple years and Jerry hits a 28 year old rook for him. I’d be pissed.
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Apr 30, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Whose?
Dub’s? Jerry’s? Santos’?
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 30, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the honeymoon ended a while ago
now some fans are contemplating divorce.
Lennon
also hits Jerry hard:
But that’s over. Manuel blew it. End of story. And who knows? Castro could be designated for assignment by the time we show up in Philly tomorrow. They might as well cut him loose at this point.
And on Wright:
As for Wright, he needs a day off, and it doesn’t matter that the Mets are playing the Phillies tomorrow. It’s pointless to put him in the batter’s box right now…. As for those who wanted Wright to bunt yesterday, he’s had exactly zero sacrifice hits in 3,136 plate appearances. Not happening. I’ve never even seen him try to bunt.
Okay I understand Castro can't give you more than 150innings/300 PA's a year
But are we seriously considering cutting him lose for a guy who never hit on any level in the minors based on like a week of at bats?
That’s almost worse than the Ollie contract.
The best part is
Santos’s week of at-bats isn’t anything earth-shattering — .269/.269/.500.
again, I really don't think its about Santos.
Its about Castro. They are done with him. He stays untill Schnid gets off the DL and then I will be stunned if he isn’t gone. They may try to bring in another catcher via trade or something. Maybe we even see Josh Thole?
But why eat Castro's contract
and downgrade at catcher before we have a trade? What if we can’t put a trade together, considering our lack of moveable pieces I would be surprised if we could, then we’re just stuck with Santos while we’re still paying Castro.
Why?
Because the team is making rash/stupid decisions right now in the wake of a bad April.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 30, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Ugh this worries me more than anything
What if Omar thinks his job is in danger and trades Jose for Erik Bedard or something.
Omar's legacy
Fucking up and wasting the best core in baseball.
This may or may not be all Omar's doing
It could be Manuel. I think he strongly dislikes Castro for some reason. Wille did not care for him either for whatever that is worth.
But why does the manager have that much power
Omar should be stepping in and telling him to stop his fail.
he strongly dislikes Castro
so to screw with him, he starts him yesterday, watches Castro collect 2 hits against an awesome pitcher, and then pulls him in the most important AB of the game for Santos. Genius, Jerry.
Yeah, kind of a dick move, as well as a stupid one.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Santos has a shorter swing!
I don’t know why everyone has a problem with this. And too bad we don’t have Eckstein, he has the shortest swing of them all.
(my first Eckstein joke)
And if they were done with him
Why not sign Pudge in the off-season???? What happened in the last 3-4 weeks for them to decide they needed to go in another direction?
Why be done with him and substitute an inferior player?
I doubt Santos is even better than the Cancels and Casanovas of the world.
He has a short swing and runs low to the ground
or something like that.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 30, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Santos, that is.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 30, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I wonder what Jerry's going to say
when they stop throwing Santos strikes and he stops hitting.
by Mark Himmelstein on Apr 30, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
but they are clearly done with him. I don’t understand it at all but the message seems clear. I assume though that another team would pick Castro up and/or would be willing to make a minor trade for him.
This isn’t sudden in my view. They wanted to trade him all offseason. They just could not find a deal they liked. But now they have burned the bridge I think.
a fun comparison
David Wright, April 2007: .244/.370/.311
David Wright, overall 2007: .325/.416/.546, the real MVP of the National League
So everyone needs to just cool it with Wright. People go through slumps.
However, the criticism of Manuel is justified. To me, it’s just more evidence of the rank amateurs who run this franchise. Until the Wilpon family is gone, this team will never be able to be a dominant force in baseball a la the Boston Red Sox.
2009 Mets: maybe its the Phillies turn to have a terrible bullpen?
by Greenpoint Ian on Apr 30, 2009 12:03 PM EDT reply actions
Although the K rate is somewhat troubling.
He has struck out more this April than previously. But still, people need to stop losing their shit.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
and Francona is no genius
they just have intelligent, responsible management pulling the strings.
the better the players are on your bench...
the less likely one of them is to be shitty when the manager decides to pinch hit for no apparent reason
Francona’s smart because he doesn’t overmanage. His job is pretty much to fill out the lineup card every day.
by TheBigStapler on Apr 30, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't even think he does that
I remember hearing the red sox have computers generate their line ups.
But still… somebody’s gotta tack it up in the clubhouse!
by TheBigStapler on Apr 30, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard he doesn't know the players' names
He still calls David Ortiz “Ortega”, and Tim Wakefield “Walker”.
But seriously
I don’t think having a “laid-back” manager would really help, either. (Remember Art Howe? The guy who was supposed to prove that guys like that can manage in New York?) We need a good manager. But are there any managers in baseball who are universally regarded as good? Torre, LaRasshat, Cox, and Pinella are known for their legacy. And I think Eric Wedge is a good leader, too. But you can’t just go out and get a good manager in the offseason.
True
He’s a great manager. But he’s an icon in the Far East; I can understand that he doesn’t want to risk being constantly scrutinized managing an MLB team (which is bound to happen at some point).
He's also an icon in Queens, wouldn't you say?
Of course, that might equate to a grace period of about three weeks the way things have been around Mets-land lately, so maybe it’s best that he stay away.
'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 30, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah IMO the issue isn't the manager
the manager isn’t going to suddenly torn things around, unless we got someone who was already a big name like a Larussa or pinella, the issue is the front office.
until someone named "Jek Porkins" can be found, anyway
All major-league managers should be named after Luke Skywalker’s wingmen.
You all know I completely agree with this
I can’t stand the Wright bashing. But I do want to say, I’m at least a little bit more troubled right now than I was in 2007. The K’s are a bit more concerning than 2007’s lack of power. Wright has a .407 BABIP right now, that’s the only reason his batting line looks better than it did in 2007. If it was closer to his career mark of .343, he’d probably be somewhere around .250 / .350 / .350. However, he is hitting a ridiculous number of liners despite the fact that he’s not making much contact (27.3% of the time he puts it in play according to fangraphs), so its not like the BABIP is completely out of context. He’s also hitting fewer balls in the air and more on the ground, which in any other season, would be a negative not a positive, but from what we’ve already seen of the new ballpark, this seems like the appropriate approach (see Beltran, Carlos, whose not really hitting more balls on the ground, but, compared to last year, he’s hitting about 5% more balls on a line and 5% fewer in the air).
by Mark Himmelstein on Apr 30, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright guys, we need a consensus.
Who are we more pissed at in general, overall… Minaya or Manuel? I’m not even sure.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Agreed
Jerry has done some idiotic things so far. But I think that overall, Omar has done more harm than good in the past two years or so. Many of our biggest needs have been addressed by doing what should have been Plan B or C, when we have the resources to go for Plan A. Or by avoiding the issue altogether until they’re calling for your head (see: bullpen).
Minaya
I’ve largely defended Minaya, but he has really done a terrible job building a team around a really solid core of players.
I don’t see how you can be pissed at the Wilpons. The Mets have one of the highest payrolls in all of baseball and they just opened a gorgeous new stadium. They may not be Mark Cuban, but they have given Minaya more resources than almost any GM in baseball. That should be enough to win.
Wilpons
Given the opening of a gorgeous new revenue stream stadium, I was irked by their refusal to increase the payroll above the luxury tax threshold.
Because it's a great idea to spend money like a drunken sailor in a down economy?
But since I am a close read and you used the work “irked” rather than the word “pissed”, I can agree with you. However, I just can’t kill the Wilpons here.
The thing is the tax isn't as huge a deal as people seem
It’s not like once you pass the threshold you pay this huge sum. You pay a percentage based on how much you passed it, like the sox only paid like 2 million for passing it last year.
It's likely the stigma and wanting to play nice with MLB
same reason they never really go over slot in the draft.
For hiring omar
and from what I understand Fred has a disdain for “forward thinking”. I remember reading that Jeff had read moneyball and wanted the front office to move in a statistical analysis direction but Fred preferred sticking with old scouts.
Although, and I understand you’re point, as much as they spend they also make a massive profit off the mets, they could easily afford to reinvest more into the club. Not just in players but in other areas.
I think the Wilpons mean well
but they just seem to consistently get things wrong. Be it marketing, front office hirings, ticket pricing, etc., they just seem to be tone deaf to outside evidence.

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