Open Thread: Mets vs Giants
by Eric Simon on May 16, 2009 3:08 PM EDT
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New York Mets at San Francisco Giants, May 16, 2009 4:10 PM EDT
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today's lineup
is better than yesterday’s, at least.
by rob neyer for prez on May 16, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not by much
and I wish we would put pagan in right rather than church against Unit.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh c'mon
First of all, I’m pretty sure Pagan has no arm. If you’re doing that, its Sheff in RF and Pagan in LF. Also, Pagan is an overrated defender and a replacement-level hitter. No thanks.
Though, in fairness, his UZR is highest in RF, which I’m very surprised to see, but its also the position he’s spent the fewest innings in, and unless I’m completely wrong about his arm, I have a feeling that’s something of a sample size fluke.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh
Don’t really mind Murphy sitting in this one. RF here is crazy, I don’t what Sheffield out there, and against Johnson, you’re not going to play Reed/Church and Murphy. You need to get the righty bats in. Don’t get me wrong, I love Murphy, and I get why he’s a popular player and he definitely deserves it. But he is a bit of a “tweener” right now. It was okay when you had Delgado’s bat, but if Tatis and Sheffield can get on base at a decent clip anyway, which they’ve both done, you have to try and get them in the lineup for their power potential. If Murphy can either become a slightly better outfielder or develop a bit more power, he’d become a nice everyday player. If the Mets acquired a power hitting LF, I think you actually might see Murphy start showing up a bit more at 1B and maybe even RF.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But don't you think if they actually plan on making Daniel Murphy their new 1B
which, by the way, I think is absolutely incredibly dumb, but if they plan on doing that, don’t you think he should be playing everyday? If he can’t even sniff the lineup, why not put him in AAA? Why not use him as trade bait? Just use him!
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its incredibly poor logic
On the part of Jerry, stick with a lineup for Christ’s sake. It makes no sense to play Cora over Reyes if he is available
by metsman07 on May 16, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well obviously that's true
And Jerry definitely seems to have a Santos like man-crush on Cora, but I have to imagine Reyes’ calf is still bothering him. Reyes’ legs may be the two most important appendages on this team save Johan Santana’s left arm, and they should be treated as such
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can agree with that
But constant lineup tinkering is not going to help with keeping the best lineup on the field.
by metsman07 on May 16, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
But the injury bug has bitten, and aside from the actual order the players are in, I think this is the lineup you put on the field for this game. Its just that Alex Cora shouldn’t be hitting second and David Wright shouldn’t be hitting fifth.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still disagree with Reyes sitting.
The management just need to be more clear with communicating their injuries to us. From what they’ve said, Reyes looked like he would miss one game tops. So they really just need to be upfront about what’s ACTUALLY going on injury wise.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No they don't
Why would they do that? That hurts their bargaining position. We’re only important to the Mets FO as far as the money we’re willing to spend. But this is politics man, they don’t have to be honest with us, and I don’t expect them to.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that's definitely a concern
But I think part of that may be talk. I’m not convinced that’s set in stone right now, I think its viewed as an option contingent upon something like Fernando Martinez becoming a Major League stud or signing Matt Holiday/Jason Bay or something like that.
He could also be trade bait, but its not even Memorial Day, and the severity of the issues just aren’t that clear yet. Is Delgado going to have surgery? Is he done for the year, or might he be back after a few weeks? If Delgado is done for the year, Murphy might actually be most effectively used as trade bait, despite how much that pains me to say.
Its kind of frustrating, but I think with this particular set of problems, patience is the best approach at the moment. For the time being, I actually like the way this situation is being handled.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, where the fuck is Murphy and Reyes?
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that is a good fucking question.
Reyes only needed “one day” and was “available” yesterday yet this is his third straight sit…WTF?
Murphy came through with 2 outs in a pinch-hit RBI situation yet he can’t get on the field…WTF?
by EMSfan9 on May 16, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why in God's name would you EVER sit Jose Reyes in deference to Alex Cora? Ever? EVER?
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haven't you heard?
Johan Santana’s pitching. The Mets must do everything they can to score as few runs as possible. In this context, why is Alex Cora not batting leadoff? That’s risky, it probably improves the Mets chances of scoring a run in the first inning.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What more does David Wright have to do to hit 4th?
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he should bat second, but third is better than 5th
by twon8 on May 16, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, sure.
I’m just saying he should not be hittling BELOW 4th, especially the way he’s hitting.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, so instead of being "tender"
the calf is now “sore”.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
playing with house money here
We’ve got the ace, and we’ve already at least split the series on the road (which is all I ever ask of the Mets on the road). Let’s go for the kill against the old Unit.
I was browsing McCovey Chronicles earlier, and needless to say, they’re pissed about last night. What I found amusing is that they’re ripping Aaron Rowand a new one. Yes, Rowand sucks, but remember in 2007 how the NY Posts of the world were insisting the Mets needed him? He’s hard-nosed! He’s gritty! He breaks his face crashing into walls! He’ll teach that softie Beltran how to win! Um, no.
Also, is it just me, or do the Mets have good numbers against Lincecum? I know he hasn’t been around for long, but anecdotally, it seems the Mets have hit him pretty hard.
2009 Mets: maybe its the Phillies turn to have a terrible bullpen?
by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yup they have done well against Lincecum
I was at his start at Shea last year, Beltran torched him for a three run homer in the first inning and I’m pretty sure Pelfrey wound up pitching a CG. Either way, he definitely outpitched Lincecum that night, but that could have more to do with the opposing lineups than the respective pitchers.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
They beat Lincecum up last year. Didn’t he win in 07 though?
by metsman07 on May 16, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
he didn’t pitch poorly, but that was the Reyes/Benitez balk game. I was there for that, it was Lincecum’s third of fourth start.
Also, nobody’s ever going to read this comment.
by cjmulrain on May 16, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read it!
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is Cora Hitting 2nd...
against a guy who kills left-handed batters? I know Johnson isn’t what he used to be, but he still kills lefties and Cora hasn’t ever touched him (very small sample though). Tatis is hitting .500 against him and runs just as well.
Cora should be hitting 8th if anything. You sit Dan Murphy because he is a lefty, but it’s okay to put Cora in at the top of the lineup?
by AnthonyR on May 16, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cora is a vet who has edge
Is that too snarky for some? I mean, it’s the truth — it’s what Jerry thinks.
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Agreed, this is the issue. Jerry Manuel seems borderline neurotically infatuated with borderline replacement level vets.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or borderline below replacement level career minor leaguers.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh oh
We’ve got the primary game going on FOX. Does that mean we get Joe Fuck again? Sigh…..
2009 Mets: maybe its the Phillies turn to have a terrible bullpen?
by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whew, Kenny Albert instead
He’s good enough.
2009 Mets: maybe its the Phillies turn to have a terrible bullpen?
by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why does is Sheffield still hitting before wright?
also i swear if fox switches to rays indians I’m going to jail
by Gina on May 16, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Again, it's ridiculous.
How many 9th inning “clutch” hits does he need? Wasn’t that the main complaint with him? How is Gary Sheffield better than him in any facet of baseball?
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chan Ho Park aside
Most of the time when Santana is pitching we’re facing another awesome pitcher. I wish they would stop harping on run support.
by Gina on May 16, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Johnson is no longer awesome
The Mets really should get some runs off of him.
2009 Mets: maybe its the Phillies turn to have a terrible bullpen?
by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then again
our lineup currently lacks our star shortstop and our slugging, most power hitting first baseman.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought reyes
was going to play today
by JADDENHOPKINS on May 16, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would hinge upon this team being smart/competent about informing people about injuries.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I wasn't really talking about Johnson I just meant the last few years
Though I would say Johnson is still pretty awesome
by Gina on May 16, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anybody else not in New York
hate when the Mets play during the FOX TV window. I am getting stuck with the Rangers game today. Damn local coverage.
by EMSfan9 on May 16, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you atleast have the fan
right?
by JADDENHOPKINS on May 16, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, thanks to MLB TV.
I’d be lost without it.
by EMSfan9 on May 16, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Omar should've signed McEwing
just for today’s game.
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YES No Buck.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Buck is great at football
baseball not so much.
by EMSfan9 on May 16, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great at football? Did you see his call of David Tyree's helmet catch?
That was soooo uninspired, and it was perhaps the most amazing catch I’ve ever seen.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember that
It was awful
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buck's Call:
“Manning has guys around him ::yawn::, he’s loose, he throws the ball, it’s caught. Big play. ::yawn::
Hey, Troy, do you remember that time Randy Moss mooned the crowd. MY GOD THAT WAS THE BIGGEST TRAVESTY IN THE HISTORY OF THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE."
At least, that’s how I remember it.
by cjmulrain on May 16, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup
his call was so bad, I put Marv Albert’s up on the Wikipedia page to balance it out.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like him calling anything
He sounds like Ben Stein’s character in Ferris Bueller. “Can anyone tell me if the Hawley-Smoot Act worked? Anyone? Anyone? It did not.”
by Prince on May 16, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's go, Slappy!
I really want to beat Randall today.
by Prince on May 16, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Slappy
slapped one up the middle. Base hit.
by EMSfan9 on May 16, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
retroactive to May 11th?
I swear he’s been out longer than that.
Also raise your hand if you think if Delgado is lost for a good chunk of the season omar will learn his lesson about relying on old players with no real plan B’s?
by Gina on May 16, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I still don't think
Omar will ever learn
by metsman07 on May 16, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He pinch hit once after sitting out for like a week.
So that’s cool. Way to go, Jerry.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yayyy
Slappy with another steal…good start
by metsman07 on May 16, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol@Bengie Molina
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love that they are making Molina look terrible
by metsman07 on May 16, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's Molina's fault
like the announcers said these pitchers have long wind ups.
by Gina on May 16, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also is it possible the mets did advance scouting?
cause we’ve been running wild on the giants
by Gina on May 16, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yay for Omar doing something smart.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice
we should atleast have a 1-0 lead for johan
by JADDENHOPKINS on May 16, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Randy Johnson ain't what he once was
Alex Cora gets a hit behind in the count. QED.
2009 Mets: maybe its the Phillies turn to have a terrible bullpen?
by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Running wild
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Woah
Cora too?
What is going on?! Im not complaining…haha
by metsman07 on May 16, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My God
The humiliation is growing for Molina.
by Prince on May 16, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jesus Christ.
This must just be embarassing at this point.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love when the Mets steal and don't get caught
They should do that more. On a side note, this must be so embarrassing for Molina
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we all do
I also like when the Mets hit home runs, turn double plays, and win games.
by Prince on May 16, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too, Manuel should have them do it more
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
But I’d still rather have Bengie than Brian Schneider.
2009 Mets: maybe its the Phillies turn to have a terrible bullpen?
by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have Josh Thole than Brian Schneider.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, awesome!!!!
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BOOMTRON!
2009 Mets: maybe its the Phillies turn to have a terrible bullpen?
by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YESSS
Double for Beltran…wow…are we sure Johan is pitching today?
by metsman07 on May 16, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YES!!!!
That’s a play that should be made but great 0-2 hitting
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Volran!!!!!
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fred lewis was supposed to make giants fans forget about Bonds
not so much so far.
by Gina on May 16, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no, I think it's working
I’ve almost completely forgotten that they used to have an awesome left fielder
by cjmulrain on May 16, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHOO!
Clutch!!
The 2009 NY Mets: WE GOT K-ROD! OMG, Putz, too! Sign Lowe! Lowe's a Brave. Sign Manny! Tim Redding, WTF? Sign Manny! Sheets or Perez? SHEETS! Perez?? Oh, Sheets is hurt -- good job, Minaya! WTF?! SIGN MANNY!
by ZaBlanc on May 16, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Voltlos Clutchtron
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on May 16, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why do they say
That the Mets were waiting to DL Delgado until Sheff started hitting?
by metsman07 on May 16, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HAH. the intimidation factor.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johan's gotta be thrilled
Johan: Wha? They can score? DO they now I am pitching?
by EMSfan9 on May 16, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Onion should be really proud of itself.
It sparked a legit nickname for Carlos Beltran. Good for them!
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YES!
I’m loving the base hits, let’s keep it going Wright
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sheff is looking real solid
with the bat.
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I think Sheffield may have set a new career high in opposite field hits in the last two days.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice job Sheff,
Way to get Wright that RBI
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is just silly
running Sheffield on them is just mean.
by Gina on May 16, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Was he running on the throw?
I didn’t see, I thought the 1B might have just taken too much time.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep them running...
Keep embarrassing Molina
by metsman07 on May 16, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright
Nice running Sheff, buying David that RBI
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll take it
3-0. Haven’t the Mets always owned Randy Johnson, even in his prime with Arizona? I’m thinking the 1999 division series.
2009 Mets: maybe its the Phillies turn to have a terrible bullpen?
by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They've done all right
6-6 with a 3.79 ERA all time.
by Prince on May 16, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well in his dominant years
6-6 with a 3.79 ERA against him would be pretty damn impressive.
by Gina on May 16, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, definitely
Especially when he won 3 straight CYA.
by Prince on May 16, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some of that's gotta be his Yankee days though
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
given his absolute dominance
That might as well be “owning” him.
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I kind of hate the FOX camera angles.
And Wright, you are just incredibly unclutch. See, this is why you can’t bat in the top half of the lineup.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn, that was close.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Karros with the good point
No missed bats yet. Against Randy Johnson.
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
even when Johnson was good we always seemed to get to him
by JoshNY on May 16, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
specifically
his career ERA against the Mets is 5.18, .732 OPS against
by JoshNY on May 16, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wha?
According to B-R, it’s 3.79 in 15 starts.
by Prince on May 16, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're right
i was an idiot and reading the wrong column.
by JoshNY on May 16, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn, Tatis
should’ve kept my mouth shut
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's been fair, I'd say.
A ball here, a strike here. It all seems to even out with this ump, I think.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good pitch
Not much you can do about that one.
by metsman07 on May 16, 2009 4:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
come on fat ass
drive in some more
by JADDENHOPKINS on May 16, 2009 4:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow that was another great slider
they’re gonna have to hit the fastball today
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OK, runs for Johan!
How nice!
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
three is more than Johan expects to get over the course of TWO starts, normally
by JoshNY on May 16, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sad but true
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh, I think I have 3-1 in the Swag
but for some reason I thought Cain was pitching today.
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cain is another victim of horrendous run support.
by Prince on May 16, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cain may even have less run support
Always has
by metsman07 on May 16, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, it kills my fantasy team
That, and the fact that I kept Brad Lidge.
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ive got 3-2
one unearned if I could have put that.
by EMSfan9 on May 16, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha on his pitcher profile they have the word "changeup"
That sums it up well
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damn
cmon johan. be……you
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Think of all the time memorizing those handshakes!!!
They could be improving and perfecting their grit!
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Johan should be spending more time working on his pitching
I mean, he’s already lost two games!
by Prince on May 16, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
and he almost gave up an earned run in one of those games
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Mets have no team chemistry
and don’t get along. But they also do handshakes with each other and disrespect the game.
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they have no passion
but Reyes shouldn’t get so excited all the time
by JoshNY on May 16, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course...
They are too obnoxious for the rest of the league
by metsman07 on May 16, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johan is the most athletic pticher in baseball
in my opinion
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now they're discussing Sandoval's nickname for like the past 10 minutes.
Discussing the plot to Kung Fu Panda.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was sure today was the day we'd get our first no-hitter.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
c'mon, this is the Mets!
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Santana
He’ll be 40 years old and finishing his career with Baltimore and that’s when he’ll throw the no-no.
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
....
close, 1-2-3-4
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im ignoring the leadoff hitter
he was throwing his warmup pitches and the batter got in the way.
by EMSfan9 on May 16, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's the way to begin it
strand the leadoff runner.
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NOW he puts Church back into the lineup?
Against Randy freaking Johnson?
by JoshNY on May 16, 2009 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jerryball!
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude
church has started like the last 4 games
but who else do you want? murphy? reed?
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DontbuntDontbuntDontbuntDontbuntDontbuntDontbuntDontbuntDontbuntDontbunt
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Juan Uribe is their SS
Is the Giants goal to have the lowest OBP in history?
2009 Mets: maybe its the Phillies turn to have a terrible bullpen?
by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Him and molina will have a difference of
about fifty points from their batting averages to OBP
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah, OK
So their goal is to put in he shittiest lineup possible against Santana. Sounds like Jerryball!
2009 Mets: maybe its the Phillies turn to have a terrible bullpen?
by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, I think he's injured/sucking like all hell right now.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He got hurt the other night
But, your general point is true.
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
Sabean is building a team like it’s 1968. Is there anyone in the Giants lineup capable of hitting 20 HRs?
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i mean...
church sucks, but right now we don’t have many options. jerry hits him eighth and he plays a solid RF and has some pop.
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol@
santana pretending everything is about to hit him
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
still has the nasty slider
But his fastball is meat these days.
2009 Mets: maybe its the Phillies turn to have a terrible bullpen?
by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When you realize he used to throw in the high 90s with a better slider,
it’s a miracle anyone ever got a hit off of him. ever.
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
btw
Just a question: anyone worried about Reyes? Three games is a lot, but is this just paranoid Jerry or a legit problem?
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably both.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's a little sore, and since they're winning no need to rush him back
Although I do miss his glove
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, Eric
They don’t need a more “consistent” offense (thank you, Joe Morgan). They need a BETTER offense.
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just a tad overmatched there, Randy
2009 Mets: maybe its the Phillies turn to have a terrible bullpen?
by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Johan just makes hitters look stupid.
It’s awesome
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I could make SF's lineup look stupid
Me and my 65-mph heater!
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Booyah!
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow his changeup is amazing
I also liked that he threw the slider the pitch before
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Johan is settling down
Looking really good right now
by metsman07 on May 16, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damn
where was cora playing rowand?
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha that was my question
I thought that was a routine play
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
all part of johan's plan
he just wants johnson leading off the next inning
by gogomets on May 16, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gritty!
That’s the kind of bleeder single that only those who break their face against the wall can get. Beltran, take note!
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe they're referring to the Skanks, unfortunately.
by Prince on May 16, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Every time a main stream entertainment source or personality announces they use Twitter
I die a little bit inside.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on May 16, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johan is just toying with them
I like
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Striking out the side
is just fun to watch.
by EMSfan9 on May 16, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
out-Foxed again--no saturday Johan for me and countless other extra innings subscribers
this is getting ridiculous. It seems worse than ever somehow. I’m gonna shake my tiny fist again soon and try to get some media attention to this. I had some success a few years ago with Richard Sandomir from the times. If any body wants to waste time with an email campaign, or has any suggestions as to how to get some visibility for this issue, let me know.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on May 16, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Write/call your congressman
Fox negotiated exclusive rights to the Saturday window, so I’m not sure what else you can do.
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pressure mlb fox to explain this to people who are charged for the privilage
i know nothing will happen right away, but
first step is to admit there’s a problem
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on May 16, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A-Rod with the unclutch May walkoff
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not only did they win...
But AROD won it…ugh
by metsman07 on May 16, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those were my exact words
I’m not even upset really, I just want bad things to happen to them at all times
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gary Sheffield going the other way twice?
Seriously?
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sheffield coming around
Well, actually his luck on BABIP is gone from bad to good.
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Unlike Nick Evans
I just learned today his BABIP in AAA was like below .100. So I think I can excuse his awful, awful start, especially considering the power that he showed when he DID get a hit.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swinging at shit at still getting hits.
Well played, Gary Sheffield…well played.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that rhymes
I’m going to steal that for my rap video
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you and L-Millz cutting a record together?
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see Sheffield branching out and starting a career
as Raekwon the Sheff.
by Prince on May 16, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dubs pulling a Nyjer Morgan
wearing old-school stirrups?
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
with the Mets sock colors
it’s no so pronounced.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
david wright is the future of the mets?
Is he not the mets now?
by Gina on May 16, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he WAS the future
but is the now.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"David Wright is the future of this ballclub"
Thanks for the insight, Eric. He’s also the present and part of the past.
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You're really not gonna mention Jose Reyes as part of the future of the Mets?
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no because
he’s “immature” and “doesn’t play the game the right way.”
It seems that Eric at least means well. Unlike McCarver, who I think would prefer if baseball were played without the players.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wright "plays the game the right way"
Guess it’s official, now. Karros said it.
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cerrone's head just exploded
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like how when Uribe threw to second, they thought Sheffield was out.
And started to play the end of the half inning music.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hello everyone
You know what, I don’t care what the lineup is today. Randy Johnson is done. He is hanging around for 300 and thats it. He may be worse than Livan.
by Endys Game on May 16, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's not worse than Livan
That’s a ridiculous thing to say.
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it?
Johnson’s ERA coming in was 5.89, Livan 5.58. FIP Johnson 5.96, Livan 4.99. WAR Johnson -0,1, Livan -0.3.
by Endys Game on May 16, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Random
but if anyone needs to kill time, you’re welcome
http://nintendo8.com/game/314/super_mario_brothers_3/
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't have time to kill
but now I have something to do while I’m not doing things I should be doing.
by Gina on May 16, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been playing like 3 hours a day
for the past week
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, Johan is so athletic.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Castillo teh sux0r.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"but the run counts"
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
by Sam Page on May 16, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"...thanks to an obscure rule change implemented by MLB this past offseason."
by Prince on May 16, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah
at least he is Marv’s son, so I can’t kill him.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don't mind him
But it was kind of a stupid thing to say.
by Prince on May 16, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And another unearned run.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes, unearned
the run only scored b/c of Slappy’s bonehead throw.
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh wait, that’s right it’s unearned ha ha
by TheBigStapler on May 16, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone else losing patience with the Mets defense?
2009 Mets: maybe its the Phillies turn to have a terrible bullpen?
by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Only the middle infield and the corner outfield.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's with that for Castillo
He always looks so lazy making throws, like he refuses to use his lower half at all, even on more routine plays than that.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn you Sandoval.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, But Johnson always kills lefties
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"best free agent signing in the offseason"
Chris Rose, STFU.
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It will be funny when after the All-Star break, Ibanez will get a total of 8 hits and make 20 errors for the remainder of his contract.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can we bring in Reyes to play short and move Cora to second for the rest of the game?
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4171440
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
THAT is awesome.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good times
http://www.amazinavenue.com/2008/12/9/687582/mets-pursuing-ibanez
Of course, he’s gonna be awful for the rest of the year.
by Prince on May 16, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we were wrong
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think 1.5 months is enough to decide Ibanez has sudden;y become twice the player he's ever been
by Gina on May 16, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course not
But I caught hell from everyone for suggesting that maybe it wouldn’t be an awful acquisition.
by Prince on May 16, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It still would have been
Especially considering Dunn is hitting the crap out of the ball and wouldn’t have cost less in money/years/and picks.
by Gina on May 16, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my own Randy Johnson story
I made 40 bucks from Randy Johnson getting a single in the world series.
I was 11, and this was in the 2001 Yankees-D’Backs series. With the Yankees up 3-2, in the series, my dad and I went to watch Game 6 with a bunch of my dad’s friends, who were Yankee fans.
During the process of this game, I proceeded to fleece my dad’s friend Roy with some ridiculous prop bets, trivia contests, and other wagers. Now I’m 11 years old, I’m 40 dollars up, and I’m feeling like I’m on top of the world. But this was short lived.
My dad tells me that I have to give the money back. I didn’t want to, but I figured I had to listen to my dad. But I figured Roy would have more pride than to take his money back from a kid, so I decided on making the most ridiculous bet I could think of.
“40 bucks Randy Johnson gets a hit here.” Sure enough, Randy hit a little seeing eye single up the middle, and I was up 80 bucks. Kept it all, after that.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cool story
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
beltran
call off gimpy
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fuck!
I hate hits like that when the Mets aren’t the ones getting them.
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shit
awful defense this inning. this game, this series.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
omg
PATHETIC
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DAMN IT
C’mon you gotta get in front of that David
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
woo defense!!!
I can’t believe this shit.
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is sad
johan is going to/should ask to be traded jesus
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
nearly 40% of our errors occur with Santana on the mound.
by RIPShea on May 16, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we don't hit, we don't play defense
because he does it all!
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice job Johan,
need two more since you have to do this ALL by yourself
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 5:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hell yeah, mofo.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fuck
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
add another two unearned runs.
Wow.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well
play the inning through without the error…you’d have runners on first and second, one out.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so so far, the runs are unearned
but another hit and one is earned.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think none
but it’s an officials scorer decision on whether Molina would score from second on a sharply hit single. I doubt it.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck everything.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if we can win Livan v. Lincecum
we can lose Santana v. anyone
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is all on the D
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
..
bloop, 2 base error, single
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The two base error was a rocket though
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way are those earned. Did he just say those were earned runs?
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1 us earned
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it depends how the inning goes
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
You’d think a gristley player like Rowand would have found his way to second on that high throw.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Only one is unearned
the first is earned because he reached on a hit and you can’t assume a DP
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no dude
they’re both unearned so far.
Play the inning through with the error as a groundout, and you have first and second or first and third. Both unearned.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure because the guy went 2 bases on the single from second to home
so without the error it would have been guy on second, 1 out. Then the hit would have scored him
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gameday has it one earned and one unearned
by EMSfan9 on May 16, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damn
I disagree with that official’s scoring.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im saying
they said they were unearned. i know they were unearned.
by RIPShea on May 16, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
odds the offense dies right now?
1:1?
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As great as Johan is
maybe he isn’t as great of a clubhouse guy as was suggested. What would compel the Mets’ position players to be so bad when he pitches?
by Prince on May 16, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just to be clear
you are kidding, right?
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sarcasm?
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well one is
because he induces a lot of hard grounders. im pretty sure it has nothing to do with the clubhouse mantra.
by RIPShea on May 16, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
legit hits last inning?
1
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whats the verdict?
those runs earned or unearned?
by Endys Game on May 16, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Corrra!
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BALK
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
atta boy TRON!!!
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
VOLTRON!
That’s a great job…give up the lead and take it RIGHT BACK!
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Voltron!!!!!!
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
VOLTRON!!!
*CLAP CLAP CLAP
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well damnit !
thanks to the defense I had the final at 4-1 today! but nooo
by RIPShea on May 16, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That had to be
the balkiest balk ever.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this team has so much.....
what is it? grite? gritle? grist?
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Talent?
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Alex Cora going 2-3 with a double...
…isn’t indicative of what Johnson has lost, nothing is.
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha YES
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sheff is 3-3
beastin’ it
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would still maintain to put David at #4 over Sheff.
But I would contend to keep Gary in the lineup.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First things first (or, WHOS KIDDING WHOOOO?)
Let’s get Reyes back IN the iineup.
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice job Sheff
three straight ground ball hits
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shef is mashing the ball...on the ground. But I'll take it.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
all hail BABIP!
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sheff!
giants haven’t been able to keep him off the bases
by gogomets on May 16, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Manuel being interviewed by Fox
says Murphy, Reed and Tatis are the First baseman with Delgado out. All I can say is if Reed gets close to the same playing time as Murphy, Manuel should be gone for that reason alone.
by Endys Game on May 16, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Trivia question
Sheff
Ernie Banks
Mike Schmidt
Don’t know the other two
by Prince on May 16, 2009 5:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A-Rod?
He has 500, right?
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
got it last year
does Banks have 500?
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A-rod and...
someone random. like willie mays or something i bet. we are in SF.
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by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sheff
Im glad I let everyone else complain about Sheff and him getting playing time cuz he sure has been a key component for us the last few games
by RIPShea on May 16, 2009 5:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WRIGHT!!!
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DW!
To quote Mr. Randolph,
This team is “picking up for one another!”
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice little rhythm?
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by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DUUUUUBBBBB!!!
You have atoned for your error, young man, now go and sin no more!
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tell me again about how good Randy Johnson still is
by Endys Game on May 16, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You'd seriously take Livan over Johnson?
Money notwithstanding.
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tell me why I shouldn't?
and of course money is a factor.
by Endys Game on May 16, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a factor
You have one game, who starts — Livan or RJ?
One reason is Randy still misses bats, and Livan needs to be lucky to get good results.
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh heh
I am too much of a lawyer to answer that question. One game Livan or RJ. Truth is I’d pray for a rainout
by Endys Game on May 16, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am a lawyer
and I still answered it — heh. Hey, Livan gave up 5 to a super-shitty Giants lineup last night.
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my point was that both of them have long seen better days
I am actually wondering why the Giants signed him. You know he isn’t a mentor type and its not like the Giants are going to contend anyway And even when he pitches well, Johnson can’t go deep in games. At least Livan can give us innings.
by Endys Game on May 16, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johnson
hasn’t been great this year, but he was fantastic last season.
by James Kannengieser on May 16, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry
I would dump Livan in a second for Niese.
by Endys Game on May 16, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is gameday completely off from what's actually happening?
i’ve seen more than a few pitches called balls that were easily in the strike zone
by gogomets on May 16, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you should see the gameday on my blackberry. the strikes (red) are on top of the batter and the balls are in the square lol
by RIPShea on May 16, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Dub!
You know, the one thing that never came up early in the season when Wright was “struggling” was the fact that he had like, 5 PAs vs LHP or something in April.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It did come up a bit here
but yeah, as far as MSM, that’s correct.
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why would it?
that sort of insight requires research! MSM journalists aren’t required to do research!
by gogomets on May 16, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beautiful job bouncing back in the 5th
I think Wright is passed wetting the bed every time he comes up with a man in scoring position. RED HOT!
by AnthonyR on May 16, 2009 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good news everyone!
Eric Karros says that the Mets’ only competition is themselves. New BP projections are out!
Mets 92-70
Themselves 91-71
Phillies 83-79
Braves 81-81
by All Shook Down on May 16, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
+1
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lololol
haha im picturing the “themselves” team. it’s got the wright that strikes out in clutch situations, the reyes who pops out, gimpy luis, tron who doesn’t slide, bad ollie, lol
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
It also has the 2007 Delgado, the Murphy who can’t catch a flyball and Jerry Manuel’s head morphs into Willie Randolph’s every 9 seconds to totally fuck with your head.
by All Shook Down on May 16, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice baserunning, David
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice 2 strike hitting
to get Wright to third
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good baserunning!
now bring this kid inning, Blastro.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No K, Ramon!
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Huh
so is David Wright officially gritty/clutch?
by Gina on May 16, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ESPN: BREAKING NEWS
David Wright deemed “gritty.”
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is grissle
we established that word
by RIPShea on May 16, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
grissle is grit + hustle – heart – edge. everyone likes that
by RIPShea on May 16, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hi, I'm Mike Francesa
DON’T GIMME A GAME IN MAY! HE HASN’T DONE IT LATE IN THE SEASON INNA BIG SPOT!
by All Shook Down on May 16, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we get it, Eric
They’re playing the right way. I guess I should be happy that the Karroses of the world are saying this instead of shitting on the team for its “chokiness”.
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Personally, I find it just as annoying
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't
any praise is good praise.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's as if the talent makes no difference
I’m sure that lots of shitty teams “play the game the right way.”
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ramon castro
beast
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by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
RAMON!!!
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
-10000000
2009 Mets: maybe its the Phillies turn to have a terrible bullpen?
by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good rip Blastro
paging Omir Santos…GTFO
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Too bad Castro isn't Santos
or else he’d be good
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by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Castro is much better than Omir Santos.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+ whatever number it takes for jerry manuel to notice
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
-420
Need to take that shit away from Jerry.
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's the point
if Jerry Manuel isn’t a pothead, I’d be shocked.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a googolplex?
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Church ripped that...
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Santos
is actually better defensively and he has a nice arm to throw out potential baserunners. who knows? maybe the pitchers like him better?
by RIPShea on May 16, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the difference in CS% between Santos and Castro?
1.5%ish
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Santos hasn't had the opportunity Castro. What i've seen though, is that, he has a cannon for an arm
by RIPShea on May 16, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he's had enough PA's to prove that he is just as good a major league hitter?
Didn’t think so.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we get it
You have a hard-on for Castro. Im not saying Santos is better. Im saying maybe why he has played so much is because of defense/pitcher reasons. Im not discussing his hitting.
by RIPShea on May 16, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really...
Ask 80% of the people here, they all agree. If you looked at Santos’ career minor league defensive stats, you’d see he really isn’t that good defensively. And Castro, with most of the pitchers on the staff last year, produced lower averages and hit rates than Schneider.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
better story
castro is seen as lazy and such
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I was a pitcher, I'd prefer someone who had an OBP higher than .290 giving me runs.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you'd worry about a guy who framed and called a good game
the manager should be smart enough to worry about the other things
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Castro generally calls a perfectly good game.
Santos is barely a defensive upgrade over Castro, and Castro can actually hit and draw walks.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly.
which is why the most respected catchers are usually the ones with low OBP. its more important for the calling of the game/defense than any other position.
by RIPShea on May 16, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This comment deserves an unrec.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brad Ausmus has more respect than Joe Mauer then?
Screw respect
by James Kannengieser on May 16, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didnt say that.
However there are reasons the “Brad Ausmus” type catchers last in the MLB for 10+ years and it has nothing to do with their OBP
by RIPShea on May 16, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could say that about any position
There’s a reason omar vizquel has stuck around. But that doesn’t make them any more or less respected/valuable.
by Gina on May 16, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Visquel was also a more than servicable hitter at times
career .273/.340/.355 hitter with a bunch of .300/.370 type seasons.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i actually didn't know that
I always thought he just played silly defense
by Gina on May 16, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was no Rey Ordonez
and his defense was ungodly.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Santos has been awful throwing out runners for his career
by Gina on May 16, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last year he threw out 19.4% of base runners in AAA
118 attempts, 23 cs.
the year before was better. 16 cs out of 58 runners.
by Gina on May 16, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait
was willie mays not an answer?
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by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
makes sense
they used to just take athletic kids and put them at short
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by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i didn't think they did that
in the major leagues
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeter should be given an honorary spot in the 500 HR club
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess he didn't start either of the games he played
I overlooked that when I assumed you were right.
by Prince on May 16, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh noessss
Carlos Beltran left his cell phone in a cab.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Santana almost beat that out.
Nice grustle.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate seeing him run so hard.
I dont want to see a hammy pull!
by RIPShea on May 16, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
brian bannister
and in this park
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by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I miss that guy
but at least we’re getting good production from Ambiorix Burgos.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHA
Jose looks stylish
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
okay
let’s do it corrrrra
you got this party started
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Time for another professional at-bat
Alex
by njmetfan12 on May 16, 2009 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on Cora
a hit here and you get like 12 R’s.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice AB, Luis
Of course, with Cora coming up, maybe he should’ve been hacking.
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How sick would that 7-8-9 be
Wagner, Putz, K-Rod. My god.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
blahhhhh
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by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
can't really complain about his day so far
Even if he lacks edge
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he's so bad
I will not complain about Cora hitting 2nd and Sheff hitting cleanup again for a while.
by Prince on May 16, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that catch by Rowand was gritty
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Coa...
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
omg
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/2009/05/source-delgado-to-dl-wagner-hi.html
Wagner is already hitting 90 mph
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yo quiero.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
isnt command an issue after tommy john?
by rob neyer for prez on May 16, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frankie, Putz, Wagner...
Good god if he can come back in August and be close to himself. Throw in Parnell if he can keep it up and that’s all-time.
by AnthonyR on May 16, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Fox crew were really laying on the praise
Kind of nice to hear.
by TheBigStapler on May 16, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For once...
I love how Karros dismissed the Phils
by metsman07 on May 16, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, it's rare to hear that
After all, Rollins is a gamer and Reyes isn’t.
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He even implied
that Reyes was awesome…what’s wrong with him?
by metsman07 on May 16, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wagner:
“I’m going to get back,” … “I’m not going to get any saves. But I’d like to help. That could be some bullpen”
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If that's his attitude and his stuff is back
T
by metsman07 on May 16, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay
this is where johan gets dirtay
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
omg
lackey got tossed in the first innning. hahahahah
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 5:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow umpires are freaking power mongerers.
by DevonEdwards on May 16, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, I think he deserved that
It was pretty clear that it was intentional. And the ump wasn’t messing around. You’ve got to be smarter than that.
by Prince on May 16, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Santana going to work after the long rest
Me likey
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Grr, Sandoval is fat.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 5:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that means he must suck, right?
The Mets would have him rotting in Binghamton.
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by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's their best offensive player
That’s also not saying much.
by All Shook Down on May 16, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What's the status on Putz?
Is he still unavailable (not that we need him [I hope])?
by TheBigStapler on May 16, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he can pitch
jerry said pregame
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn
they were really playing beltran to pull it. he smacked that up the middle.
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man Sheff is hitting everything to the right side.
PRESENCE
by All Shook Down on May 16, 2009 6:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that's the most interesting part of it
I’m not quite sure what to read into it lol.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
beltran and wright 3&5
makes me want to tear my hair out
by Gina on May 16, 2009 6:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Do they not realize that the third and fifth spots are the fourth and fifth most valuable spots in a lineup?
Does anyone in this organization do any reading?
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With a guy who is hitting .500 over the past few games in between...
I could care less. Ride Sheff until he realizes he is 40, then move Wright up to 4th.
by AnthonyR on May 16, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh i dont care about Sheff 4th
they can leave him there. I care about cora and castillo getting more at bats than anyone else. If Jerry absolutely has to put one of them in the lead off spot, but then put Beltran 2 and Wright 3rd or something.
by Gina on May 16, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nods.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I'd prefer Wright 4th and Beltran 2nd.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because pitcher's FEAR sluggers from a decade prior.
by All Shook Down on May 16, 2009 6:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dunno about anyone else
but as a pitcher I’d fear Wright like 1500x more than Sheff right now.
by James Kannengieser on May 16, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont even ahve an issue with Sheffield 4th
I just dont understand why you want Cora and Castillo getting more at bats than Wright and beltran. At least put one of them in the 2 hole
by Gina on May 16, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Addendum
BRING BACK PIAZZA AND BAT HIM CLEANUP.
What? Willie did that? In 2005?!
by All Shook Down on May 16, 2009 6:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone think we could acquire Carlos Lee and Roy Oswalt?
Astros may have the worst general managment in baseball. If Omar can rip off anyone in a trade, it’s them.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 6:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure I would want Lee
with his age/size/contract + the cost in prospects it would take.
by Gina on May 16, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, yeah.
I was mostly just trying to get across how bad that organization is.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
Omar’s GM’s owned list:
Bill Smith
Jim Duquette
Ed Wade seems like a natural fit there.
by All Shook Down on May 16, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not completely sure Wade is an awful gm
From what I understand the owners and awful and extremely meddlesome.
by Gina on May 16, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mean suspiciously preferential toward whites
The Astros have had way fewer black players than any other ML franchise.
by Prince on May 16, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GMs who own Omar
Jack Z
Billy Beane
Whoever was running the Indians when he traded Sizemore, Phillips, etc.
Kevin Towers
Larry Beinfest
Jim Bowden
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That Sizemore, Phillips, Lee trade
makes me nervous every time I see Omar making/negotiating a deal.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well in his defense his team was being contracted
so it’s not like they really had any need for prospects. But that being said contraction or not it was an awful win now move.
by Gina on May 16, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
johan = goodness
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That flomax replay was oddly appropriate.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 6:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone have a pitch count for johan?
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember when Rowand ran into the wall against Nady?
How much money do you think that made him?
by All Shook Down on May 16, 2009 6:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
his life's salary
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair
He had a terrific offensive season before signing with the Giants. He didn’t deserve the contract, but it’s not as if that one catch got him signed.
by Eric Simon on May 16, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right
But that was basically his ONLY good offensive season in the last 5 years.
2009 Mets: maybe its the Phillies turn to have a terrible bullpen?
by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had one good year with the White Sox, too
I’m not saying the contract was justified, just that he had done something besides smash his face into a wall.
by Eric Simon on May 16, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but you know that had a lot to do with it
Just like Arizona’s brilliant idea to give Byrnes a billion dollars and trade Quentin was because Byrnes has crazy hair and goes flying through the air when he throws the ball.
2009 Mets: maybe its the Phillies turn to have a terrible bullpen?
by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That one I really didn't understand
They got a pretty nice haul for Quentin which they used to acquire Haren so that trade itself wasn’t bad, especially with so many outfielders even if you exclude Byrnes. But the Byrnes contract itself just make zero sense, especially for a team that’s supposed to have a forward thinking front office and seems to properly evaluate defense basically everywhere else.
by Gina on May 16, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn
damn
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Of course, Aaron Rowand.
Johan’s ERA is going to balloon.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
johan hung one
he hit it ugly. whatever.
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
worst pitch Santana has thrown all year
by Endys Game on May 16, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damn
johan not looking too hot ahora
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he's only at 82
he can definitely go 7 if he gets a quick out
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's the Johan on FOX jinx
Really. Think about all the games he pitched on FOX last season.
by All Shook Down on May 16, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OMG
WTF
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Next time there's a fly ball to shallow outfield
Johan should catch it.
by TheBigStapler on May 16, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is really pathetic
the mets team hates johan
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe this fucking defense.
2009 Mets: maybe its the Phillies turn to have a terrible bullpen?
by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 6:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Okay I officially hate Alex Cora
I’m sure that play alone isnt reason enough to hate him but damnit i do
by Gina on May 16, 2009 6:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cora is a very professional player
he brings winning baseball to every team he plays on
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
by Sam Page on May 16, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's trying to make the mets tougher
If rollins made a play like that the phillies would just grit down and win anyway. Cora is trying to put the pressure on.
by Gina on May 16, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SHEFFIELD
CALL HIM OFF DAMNIT
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The giants have scored
1 legit run all game
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MY FUCK!!
and they give him a double!!!
by Endys Game on May 16, 2009 6:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they called that a hit!
GIVE ME A BREAK!
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you, DISH Network
It took pity on me and killed the satellite signal.
(Though I am missing the Preakness.)
by Prince on May 16, 2009 6:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
tatis!
but dont hurt johan please
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How is that even remotely a hit? HOW IS THAT ANYONE'S FAULT EXCEPT ALEX CORA?!?!?
On the flip side, nice job Tatis.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 6:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WTF a HIT?
Johan’s ERA will be over 1 now.
by EMSfan9 on May 16, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a tough play to make for Cora.
Sheffield should’ve caught it though. Murphy would’ve.
Cora shouldn’t have made the throw though.
by All Shook Down on May 16, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Baseball's a funny game
Johan throws his worst game in about a year against what may be the weakest offense he’s faced in that span, and yet he might actually win this one lol.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on May 16, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Johan's DEFENSE has its worst game
Johan looks pretty solid to me.
2009 Mets: maybe its the Phillies turn to have a terrible bullpen?
by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but the thing is
he’s looked good! it’s the damn defense. it wears out his arm for the game and has made him throw about 30+ extra pitches
luis error
wright error
cora error
bloop single cora/beltran fucked up on
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is truly horrific scoring on that play
That should be changed by the league. That is a joke.
by Endys Game on May 16, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I missed the awful play
what happened?
And I hope they change the scoring, b/c otherwise Johan is no longer in Sub-Gibsonian range
by cjmulrain on May 16, 2009 6:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dear SG FIANTS SCORER
Get rid of your aurilia boner and give that an error
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
SG Fiants!
I like that!
2009 Mets: maybe its the Phillies turn to have a terrible bullpen?
by Greenpoint Ian on May 16, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, are you blind?
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you bunting?!?
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 6:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why the fuck are you bunting
tatis
by JADDENHOPKINS on May 16, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jesus
Could the level of play displayed by the Mets with Santana on the mound all be an elaborate practical joke to convince him he was traded to the Nats during the offseason?
by psiogen on May 16, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We obviously need a few more with this defense.
and you try and bunt?
by AnthonyR on May 16, 2009 6:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
95% sure that is not his call.
Damn you Jerry.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on May 16, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just going to think that he was doing it on his own.
Better for my mental health.
by AnthonyR on May 16, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hated seeing obama ith the phillies
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, me too
Only they can make me despise him.
by Prince on May 16, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, Manuel picked our Manuel to coach?
Ugh.
by jasondg on May 16, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nobody is watching ryan church probably k lol
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Castro going to RF more recently
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on May 16, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this girl horse won
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
did anybody see what church did
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
johan still in...
right?
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THANKS DISH
you fucking suck. cant watch the race or the game
by Prince on May 16, 2009 6:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't want to watch the rest of this game.
…i sense impending doom…
by All Shook Down on May 16, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At least he kept Johan in this time.
Perhaps he is learned from the Feliciano debacle (yeah, right)
by AnthonyR on May 16, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sheffield
worse defense ever
Alex Cora should never bat second. Ever.
by MetsGeek on May 16, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs