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Around SBN: On Hazards And Hulks And Tigers, Oh My!

Some Possible Trade Targets Pt.1

Facing a weak schedule in the days ahead (WAS, FLA, PIT), many perceive Omar Minaya as having time to assess his roster and make a trade. With Delgado, Perez, Reyes, and Church out for indeterminate amounts of time, there's flexibility (a bad kind) on what position to target. To make the best possible move, however, Minaya needs to take an honest stock of the current roster and commit to a few players.

First off, Sheffield will probably start most of the rest of the year in right or left. I resisted that idea early in the season, mostly because of his fielding and Church being around, but he's been the second best hitter on the team so far, without totally embarrassing himself in the field. His ZiPS rest-of-season projection calls for a .763 the rest of the way, but that assumes a massive drop-off in plate discipline that seems very unlikely. Whether it's age, a return to the NL, or both, Sheffield has been the most patient hitter on the team and can probably be counted on to give something around a .360 wOBA (~.810 OPS) for the rest of the season, which seems just as good as anything we can reasonably expect from Church or F!. In the field, UZR has him at 2 runs below average so far, 1.4 of that being his arm. Granted, 21 games in the field  is the rough statistical equivalent of 7 at the plate, so it's not very predictive of future performance. Still it's encouraging, and so far he's been worth .7 WAR, a 2.8 million dollar return on Omar's original investment.

On the shortstop front, Cora plans to return on Tuesday. With Reyes also figuring to return in about a week when he's eligible to come off the DL, the team can probably forge ahead on the Martinez/Valdez express for the next few days.

At firstbase, Delgado is tentatively scheduled to return in 9 weeks, assuming rehab goes well. I want to believe Daniel Murphy can provide the offense/defense necessary, but that's a risk, and not one the Mets need to take. Another big argument against trading for a firstbaseman is that Carlos Delgado will have to sit when he eventually does come back. Maybe that's not a bad thing. Having another, presumably better, firstbaseman would allow Delgado to take his time coming back. Also, it's anyone's guess what he does on the field when he comes back. His ZiPS rest of season projection is .363 wOBA, which is decent, but hardly guaranteed coming off injury. Many people cited lingering injuries as the reason Delgado tanked in the first half of 2008.

For that reason, Nick Johnson seems to be the best fit at first. He's definitely better than Delgado, healthy or not. He's a consistent .400 wOBA (.900 OPS) hitter with great plate discipline and good range at first. He's affordable, at $5.5MM, and DING DING DING, a former Expo. He's in the walk-year of his contract and his value will be seriously tempered by his bad history with injuries. Since they play in the NFL, the Nationals have wisely decided to focus only on pitching prospects, and Parnell, Antonini, Kunz, and Gee have been some names thrown around. Parnell should and will probably stay, with Putz still looking shaky in the set-up role. If the Mets can get Johnson for any combination of Kunz, Antonini, or Gee, however, they should do it. Niese would probably fall in the same category as Parnell, as he'll be needed down the road. Antonini and Gee profile as back-end starters at best, 1-1.5 WAR players the Mets can probably find elsewhere. Kunz, a middle reliever who gets groundballs, but does nothing else right, is essentially worthless, with his upside being virtually worthless. If the Mets can trick the Nationals into thinking he's a closer in the making, they should push hard to get the deal done. Assuming 300 PA and each firstbaseman playing to expectation, Johnson could be roughly a 2 win improvement over Delgado. The biggest knock on Johnson, his health, would be mitigated by Delgado being on the bench. I know it hurts some people to imagine paying a bench player $16MM, but depth would be worth it in this instance.

Aubrey Huff is another popular name, but he's not half the player Johnson is. Even with his anomaly season last year, Huff has a career .827 OPS, and that's how he's played so far this season. Combined with his poor defense at first, the Mets could probably get the same, maybe even better, production out of Murphy. Another argument for Huff has been his ability to "play" the outfield, but if the Mets really want an outfielder they should get a real one, and I'll cover that more in Part 2.

Adam LaRoche is strikingly similar to Huff, except he may be a worse hitter. He's another guy that probably wouldn't be a huge upgrade over Murphy and certainly not worth the $7 Million or so he's due this year.

I'll cover Mark DeRosa with the outfielders. Request any firstbasemen I forgot in the comments and I'll cover them, too.

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Great post

Another fine example of why AA is the place for Mets analysis.

I would like to know what horrific bag of talent it would take to lever Dunn from the Nats grubby mitts. Why-oh-why did we not pick him up in Winter, ugh.

by deadspy3 on May 28, 2009 7:16 AM EDT reply actions  

A lot

The Mets could’ve had Dunn for nothing but money last offseason.

by Eric Simon on May 28, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

We may have lost him for 50 games

Depending on how this Florida steroid bust turns out.

I will not allow the denigration of the life essence

by GenJackRipper on May 28, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Should Russell Branyan be a target?

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on May 28, 2009 7:49 AM EDT reply actions  

THT has him 8th in runs created

http://www.hardballtimes.com/thtstats/main/index.php?view=batting&linesToDisplay=50&orderBy=rc&direction=DESC&qual_filter=1&season_filter[]=2009&league_filter[]=All&pos_filter[]=3&Submit=Submit

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on May 28, 2009 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely.

He’s always been an average to quality fielder. His UZR is all over the place due to positional switches and a litany of stops-and-starts due to transactions.

The advance of statistical analysis in MLB front offices in recent years is well-known, but the case of Russell Branyan proves that the tyranny of baseball scouting still exists.

by All Shook Down on May 28, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Johnson

I like him. Maybe he’s a good choice, but I think another corner outfielder is more necessary, as long as we think Carlos really can come back. But I agree, Johnson over Huff.

Laroche is intriguing, if only you could bottle his second half stats. I know that kind of thing is not consistent, but his split is so pronounced.

Off the topic a bit, why not give Brandon Knight a try over Redding?

by wobatus on May 28, 2009 7:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Brandon Knight

That’s a really good idea. And a cost effective one as well. It would be ridiculous if they didn’t soon.

by maka on May 30, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can't get a pure 1B

Because if they can’t move to the outfield, what do we do when Delgado gets back? I’d support getting a LF/1B type, like an Aubrey Huff, who we can move to the outfield with a healthy Delgado. No use getting Johnson if we can’t play him for half the year.

by Devon Edwards on May 28, 2009 8:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree which is why the mets will not make a move for 1st base.

I think if anything they will bring in Jermaine Dye and trade Ryan Church. Delgado, Tatis and Murphy give them enough depth to leave 1st alone this year and address it in free agency. I expect Dye or another slugging OF to be a met soon.

by Major on May 28, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who's available as FA?

Johnson, obviously, but are there any other good 1B who are FAs after this season? I vaguely recall some discussion last winter to the effect that there weren’t any in the offing, which made Texeira such a hot commodity.

by madisonmetsfan on May 28, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks. Not much of a list, though.

The guys discussed above are the cream of the crop. It might be best to limp along at 1B until after next season and make a run at Berkman or Pujols.

by madisonmetsfan on May 28, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh

I don’t think there’s any chance Pujols leaves the Cards and Berkman is kind of old, he’ll be like 34/35 when he’s a FA. If we were going to go after a big name 1b in free agency it should have been Tex, because he’s one of the very few players who actually hit free agency in his prime. Now I think that option is pretty much out of the question.

by Gina on May 28, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's too far from 2010

to be pondering our options. Maybe a trade is made this summer or winter. Maybe Daniel Murphy excels in the field and puts up solid numbers at the plate. Maybe Delgado comes back and crushes the ball for a month. It’s just too early to tell.

by Zwill on May 28, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yuck!

We’re really screwed if Daniel Murphy doesn’t get any better.

by TheBigStapler on May 28, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kunz, a middle reliever who gets groundballs, but does nothing else right, is essentially worthless, with his upside being virtually worthless.

I don’t know why but this made me laugh so very hard

by Gina on May 28, 2009 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah

reading it again, I liked the essentially worthless/virtually worthless progression.

by wobatus on May 28, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Mets have convinced themselves Kunz is a closer in the making.

A trade for Nick Johnson would cost Chris Holtz at least, I think. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Mets traded Jon Niese for Nick Johnson, even though Niese is a better starting pitcher than Livan Hernandez or Tim Redding right now.

I don’t think the Mets should make any deal apart from small time stuff, like say, acquiring Valentino Pascucci. But of course they always fuck up the small stuff; that’s why Ramon Martinez and not a capable major league shortstop is starting every day, and Omir Santos and not Ramon Castro is considered the starting catcher.

My guess is that within the month we’ll be talking about how to replace Luis Castillo, who will have gone down with injury.

by JohnPeterson on May 28, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Well if Cora comes back he'd probably be just as good of an option at 2nd base as Castillo

If not better. The problem is then we’re stuck with ramon martinez as our #2 short stop.

by Gina on May 28, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Pascucci

still in Triple=A?

"What position do you play?"
"I bat third."

by Preach19 on May 28, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who's Chris Holtz?

is that a clever way of saying Brad Holt I don’t get?

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on May 28, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yea, sorry

There’s a Chris Holtz on my Baseball Mogul team.

by JohnPeterson on May 29, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say Ryan Shealy

Too bad he’s hurt. Oh well.
Why was Ross Gload ever a MLB starter, again?

by BlackOps on May 29, 2009 2:12 AM EDT reply actions  

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