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Around SBN: Terry Collins, David Wright, And The Mets/Brewers Kerfuffle

Thursday Applesauce

Santana is bringing his ERA down to Greinke levels. If only the Mets had scored more than a combined 10 runs during his starts...

Meet the Mets

So, I do my morning diligence and check out nytimes.com this morning, only to find myself wishing I hadn't within a few paragraphs. David Waldstein interviewed Charlie Manuel, whose one goal remaining in life is to mock the Mets. Money quote:

If you notice, sometimes a team will get a five-game lead in our division, they'll get caught real quick.

Carlos Delgado, however, saved the Times sports section for me. Speaking off the Pedro Feliz too-much-effort, scrappy error in which Delgado scored on a close play, Delgado said "Speed kills."

Oliver Perez is headed to the DL and Ken Takahashi's chance at a ML start has been pushed back. Jonathan Niese will start tomorrow against Pittsburgh.

The New York Post is not taking the Met clubhouse newspaper ban lying down.

USA Today argues over who is the best pitcher in baseball, Zack Greinke or Johan.

Tim Redding still lives with his mother. And why not?

'Ropolitans blog has an incredibly disturbing graph of this year's bullpen salaries.

Mets Geek does a great job of breaking down pitch f/x data.

Around the NL East

I love it. After the game, I started looking for more of the MASN commercials, previously mentioned in Applesauce. Here are some of my favorites so far. "Jeff" praises Willie Harris,  yes, that Willie Harris. "Adam" loves letting the Phillies win the division. Feel free to look around. Here is the whole series. What are some of your favorite National moments?

Meanwhile, the Dodgers are now 13-0 at home this season, setting the record for most consecutive home wins to start the season. Oh yeah, they beat the Nationals. Nat reliever Joe Beimel was activated from the DL, likely to become the Washington closer.

Now, back to real baseball. Derek Lowe looked like Oliver Perez in yesterday's 8-6 victory over Florida. The Marlins have now lost 12 of their last 16 games. Garret Anderson's first 3 RBI of the season helped lead the way for Atlanta.

Marlin reliever Scott Proctor may undergo Tommy John surgery.

Atlanta is having trouble selling tickets, partially due to the crummy weather.

can take insulting our players, but our women too????? Now, you've gone too far.

Around MLB

Kris Benson is off the DL and the next time we see him will be his first ML relief appearance.

John Smoltz wants to try the senior PGA tour.

Red Sox announcer Jerry Remy is taking a leave of absence after cancer surgery.

 

Jamie Moyer again? At least Delgado will be in the lineup for him tonight. Not-Johan Mike Pelfrey will make the start for the Mets. Let's see if the Mets can continue their gritty winning ways.

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Tim Redding

Hey, I work with a few people who commute from Buffalo to Rochester, and at a much lower salary. Living at home with the folks makes sense to me.

Question: Did Brian Stokes kick Jerry’s dog or something? I thought he hadn’t pitched in a while but I didn’t realize it had been nine days. Is he back to being the long man again? Anyone have any theories?

'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on May 7, 2009 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

you and Tim should get some food and a beer at Dinosaur sometime

2009 Mets: maybe its the Phillies turn to have a terrible bullpen?

by Greenpoint Ian on May 7, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

As long as he's willing to pick up the tab

'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on May 7, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

My explanation du jour

is that he shit on Jerry Manuel’s mother’s grave. I’ve yet to see compelling evidence to refute that theory.

by Eric Simon on May 7, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually have pictures of Stokes

NOT shitting on Manuel’s mother’s grave. So there’s your evidence.

But yea, WTF?

by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on May 7, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Willie Harris

is awesome. That’s all.

by jasondg on May 7, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

In reference to the philiesnation thingy up there

It’s funny that the narrative for every mets loss becomes “the bullpen blew it.” Anyone who watched Saturday saw Perez put the mets in a bad spot early, the bullpen have to pick up major slack and then run out of steam. I know it’s more fun to shit on the bullpen, but it’s also really lazy. The bases loaded walk pissed me off as much as the next guy but the bullpen performed admirably that day.

Also, anyone calling the phillies “the hottest team in the NL” at any point this season hasn’t heard of the dodgers. They’re going apeshit out there

by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on May 7, 2009 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

and it was great last night

But expecting talking heads to abandon their precious narratives for something like the facts is wishful thinking on your part.

by Endys Game on May 7, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Those Nationals commercials

both piss me off and really amuse me at the same time. Luckily I haven’t had time to watch much MASN lately, but that station really sucks.

Also, re: Santana v. Greinke. Greinke’s had a slightly better start, and he has a chance to have a wonderful career, but I think for this season at least you’d be crazy not to go with Johan. He has the track record, and he’s still young enough that it wouldn’t be surprising if is dominant all season long.

"This is the beauty of baseball. In basketball, at the end of the game, you want to put the ball in your best scorer's hands. But in baseball, it's up to a rookie like McGlinchy and a journeyman like Franco with the entire season on the line. Baseball history is dotted with names like Al Weis and Brian Doyle, men who have taken their name out of the agate type and placed it into the headlines, because it was simply their time."

by cjmulrain on May 7, 2009 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Santana is a slow starter too, remember?

If that held to form this year, that would be insane.

'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on May 7, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Salami and onions?All Mets fans smell like sandwiches? I think the beer man has been drinking his own product a little too much.

No night spent pantsless is a wasted night.

by sireric on May 7, 2009 10:57 AM EDT reply actions  

This is ironic

Because EVERY person in Philadelphia, not just Philth fans, smell distinctly of cheesesteaks. I mean, it’s clearly that smell. And of course, Mets girls are unattractive because they don’t have heart, dur.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on May 7, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

mmmm

now I want a cheesesteak for lunch, damn you squid

by JoshNY on May 7, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you

I take that as a compliment. Those fuckers are delicious.

(in north Jersey now, have assumed a more gabagool-like scent)

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on May 7, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't had a proper cheesesteak in years

that is, I haven’t been to Philly since 1994. Man there really is something to how people make ’em there.

That said, the idea of people smelling like any type of sandwich strikes me as odd. Cannibalism, perhaps?

'Oh yes, I know all about that duty-of-a-citizen stuff. It doesn't go. There are exceptions to every rule, and this was one of them. When a man risks his liberty to come and root at a ball-game, you've got to hand it to him. He isn't a crook. He's a fan.'

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on May 7, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

NY has some decent cheesesteak joints now

Carl’s (of course), Philly Slim’s, and 99 Miles to Philly are all solid, IMO. I went to school in Philly for four very, very fattening years.

by jasondg on May 7, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a fan of Carl's

But I’ve never lived in Philly so take that for what it’s worth

by JoshNY on May 7, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I live on the UWS

So I don’t get to have Carl’s very often — but Philly Slim’s, I think, is great. And they have Tastykakes.

by jasondg on May 7, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

policy

I generally just don’t bother with cheesesteaks unless I’m in Philadelphia or the immediate environs. Bound to be disappointed, and not worth the calories. It’s like getting a bagel in Memphis.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on May 7, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea

this is generally true, although a place just opened up around the corner from me called “South St. Steaks” – the owner is from Philly and he apparently gets his bread shipped down from Philly (at least that’s what he claims). Best cheesesteaks I’ve had outside of Philadelphia, by far. (I live just outside DC now).

But I think you’re right that it’s the bread. It’s similar to why pizza is never as good outside NY, something about the dough.

"This is the beauty of baseball. In basketball, at the end of the game, you want to put the ball in your best scorer's hands. But in baseball, it's up to a rookie like McGlinchy and a journeyman like Franco with the entire season on the line. Baseball history is dotted with names like Al Weis and Brian Doyle, men who have taken their name out of the agate type and placed it into the headlines, because it was simply their time."

by cjmulrain on May 7, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

which is weird I think because pizza dough is such a simple recipe, and yet so many people get it wrong

by JoshNY on May 7, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's the NY water

Heh. I think the NY cheesesteak joints I referenced above import the bread from Philly, which is why they’re acceptable.

by jasondg on May 7, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Understood

and almost always correct.

by jasondg on May 7, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's the bread

I can’t explain what it is exactly but the correct sub/hoagie rolls are essential to a good cheesesteak.

There are some nice bakeries around me (like Calandra’s) that make excellent — but different — types of bread, but they’re just not right for a cheesesteak.

That said, my favorite sandwich in the whole city is the Italian Pork from Tony Luke’s. I’m dying here just thinking about it…

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on May 7, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tony Luke's

is great — the NYC outfit, though, closed and became Shorty’s. Which I don’t like.

The area around Tony Luke’s is a wasteland, though. I went to an extreme wrestling “event” around the corner at Viking Hall once.

by jasondg on May 7, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm friends with the Calandra kids.

I go there for free dinner all the time, haha.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on May 7, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hoagies?!?

If anything we smell like heroes!

by Reg Dunlop on May 7, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Proctor is having Tommy John surgery?

No way! He’s never hurt!

So, do the Marlins bill Joe Torre for this surgery or do they bill the Yankees?

by meigs1414 on May 7, 2009 11:53 AM EDT reply actions  

ESPN reports

Manny tests positive for PEDs.

by jasondg on May 7, 2009 11:53 AM EDT reply actions  

oh ha ha

clever philly fans. no attractive mets fans. not enough gothic fonted stomach tattoos for their liking, i guess. better luck at the norristown dairyqueen, you g.d. philly savages.

HELLO HELLO MR WILPON. WE WANT THE MANSION NOT THE CONDO.

by kendynamo on May 7, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Savages!

So true.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on May 7, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That Post thing is the least funny ever.

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on May 7, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

NOOOOO Don't you get it?

It’s funny because the Mets lose all the time, and our headlines would subtly mock them for it! It’s not only really funny, but completely original and fresh!

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on May 7, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Mets Ladies

Since moving to Mass., I’ve gone to a few Sox games. I have to say, they’ve got the hottest female fans I’ve seen.

And no one from Philly dare speak out on this issue. Dude, look around you.

"It's Father's Day today at Shea, so to all you fathers out there, Happy Birthday." -- Ralph Kiner

by dissento on May 7, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

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