Open Thread: Mets vs Phillies
Philadelphia Phillies at New York Mets, Jun 11, 2009 7:10 PM EDT
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Darn
wanted to see MURPH in the lineup. Ah well. At least F! gets in the batting order vs. the lefty. Want him a bit higher in the order though.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Fucking Jerry said he'd give F! and Murph 1 game out of the 3.....WTF man lol.
Can we just kill this bastard seriously he’s so far past incompetent. I don’t understand Jerry’s logic to giving Tatis more time at first than Murph. Not like he’s been solid at the plate this series.
by dulciusEXasperis on Jun 11, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I think..
Jerry is obsessed with this power thing now, and believes Tatis has more than Murph.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
So Tatis can hit a grand slam every 20 years good for him lol. Murph has more HR's and RBI's thus far and has solid potential. He just needs the consistancy of playing games
So Tatis can hit a grand slam every 20 years good for him lol. Murph has more HR’s and RBI’s thus far. He just needs the consistency of playing games. Either give the guy a shot or send him back down so he can see a bats and get experience every game. Jerry is rotting his potential and confidence away by implementing this ludicrous method of playing time.
by dulciusEXasperis on Jun 11, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you actually think Murphy's a better matchup against Moyer than Tatis?
I would be upset about this if it were F! sitting and Murphy was in, but this is the one that I can deal with. The kid is 20 years old and probably isn’t that far behind Murphy in terms of ability. He’s getting better, and could be special. Murphy had perceived grit and a “blue collar style” and a great 150 big league PAs. This after a minor league season that was something between very good and tweeneresque (for a corner guy). I don’t think Murphy’s as bad as he’s been this year, but I also don’t think he’s THAT far from his ceiling still. Extra minor league seasoning isn’t going to be as important for him if he’s not getting starts. He’s also not a particularly great option for first base on a contending team, but he’s better than anyone else aside from Tatis, who is probably about equal.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Murphy as a super bench player with a .750-.800 OPS
Would be awfully valuable to this franchise going forward.
by All Shook Down on Jun 11, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
This I agree with
And while that might not mean he should be in the minors to get PAs, it might mean that he should be there to learn a few more positions. Trying him at 2B at the big league level is a difficult gamble to make, but if he can do it in the minors for a little while, also get in the batters box everyday, that might be wise. Plus, Buffalo’s so crappy, Murphy could probably be an upgrade for them at every position, so there’s no worry about blocking someone else positionally.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
If Tatis ever connects on one of those fastballs down the middle
that he frequently gets, maybe he could show off some of that power
I also think
If the Mets had won last night, Jerry would have felt more comfortable giving Murph a shot. Especially if Murphy didn’t have that big strikeout. Given the situation, he felt he had the choice between starting F! or Murph, and if that’s the decision you give yourself, its not a hard one to make. I don’t entirely agree, but I can stomach it.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
damn it
why is omir “i swing at the 1st pitch even if it is in the dirt” santos still in the line up
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 11, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions
Right lefty matchup is more important than actual talent.
at least in jerry’s mind
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Omir makes me appreciate Schneider even more
Because he is terrible behind the plate.
One of these days he is just going to stop hitting period.
He's been pretty lousy at catching too
Or so it seems. There’s very little to go on besides observation.
Also, I want to gag when the announcers say that the pitching staff “loves how he receives the ball”. That’s the catching equivalent of “she’s very good at walking” and “you are very human”.
by All Shook Down on Jun 11, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
By the way
I would love to see Murphy at 2B this season. Can he possibly be worse than the f’n black hole that’s stationed there currently?
Hey now
Castillo has been solid defensively and his bat has been better than expected.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Castillo's been putrid defensively
-10 UZR/150
by All Shook Down on Jun 11, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Even though he's been bad defensively too
At least his hitting would more than make up for it.
by All Shook Down on Jun 11, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Btw
Only Schumacher, Burriss, Uggla and Callaspo have been worse — two are new to the position and the other two have long been considered butchers.
by All Shook Down on Jun 11, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Castillo is at replacement level this year
If Murph can play even credible D at 2nd, he’s better than Castillo.
I will not allow the denigration of the life essence
by GenJackRipper on Jun 11, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we just bring up Niese again, I don't like Redding lol.
by dulciusEXasperis on Jun 11, 2009 6:37 PM EDT reply actions
i was saying that before the nats game
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 11, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
If Redding has a bad outing tonight...
They could weigh their options right?
Cutting him loose at this point wouldn’t be the worst thing
But we can't afford for him to have one.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Yeah I know that.
They are going to have to make a decision sooner rather than later.
Moyer could have a terrible outing tonight as well.
I hope Redding pitches as well as he did last week. He definitely earned himself a spot for now. I don’t totally dislike him per se, but if they have better options, use them.
Problem is
What are your better options? The answer is probably Jon Niese. But his results have been pretty poor and the organization isn’t going to go for it unless he strings a couple of “good starts” together. Still, a .385 BABIP in 206 BF is pretty absurd, and indicates just how little support Buffalo has given him. He’s doing everything you want him to do though.
But that’s about it in terms of other options. What’s the latest on Ollie? I feel like news on him has been quiet.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Holt and Mejia?
They can’t be worse, right? Underdeveloped sure, but not worse.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
That'd be irresponsible of the Mets to call them up this soon.
Niese, Brandon Knight and Redding are your options.
by All Shook Down on Jun 11, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Never going to happen
They were monitoring Holt’s innings very closely to begin with. The only way he sees big league time at all this year is in the pen. Then again, I said no way Mejia belongs in Double-A.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I meant it jokingly.
But Holt could be here next year he continues to play this well and continues to develop his secondary pitches. Mejia is at least two years away, unless he just dominates this year and early next.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Lol fair enough
The promotion definitely makes their arrivals feel sooner. They’ll both probably be in big league camp next year, so we have that to look forward to.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
But would using Niese on the big club for an extended period of time
Be a problem? He has proven somewhat that he can be a cost effective option in the majors for a bit. Who knows, maybe he strings good starts together and gets some better D behind him…
Like I said, I’m not totally opposed to Redding…but the Mets are in a pretty interesting situation when Ollie comes back.
I don't disagree with you
But I have a feeling the organization does. I was hoping Niese was coming back up after the west coast road trip.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Niese
At this point, I don’t think it hurts to let him pitch. Obviously the organization doesn’t see it that way…like you said.
He could be very valuable late in the summer though.
It hurts them
In that it means admitting they made a poor $2.5 million investment in Redding. The worst part of all this is, if the Mets do callup Niese, I could completely see a scenario where the result was Stokes getting DFA’d. Redding to pen and some peculiar need to keep the second lefty who’s been ineffective against lefties.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i think they sent him down to early
he did not pitch that bad vs the braves
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 11, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
lets get to moyer
early and hope tim can get into the 6th inning
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 11, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions
Over/Under on times Jerry has us bunting... excluding the pitcher
2.5
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
"utley's corner"
did’nt you guys call that pussy corner yesterday.sometimes i think gary reads AA
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 11, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions
3-2 here to utley
important pitch early on
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
wow!
k!
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Did not expect that.
nice start for Redding
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Jenrry Mejia's second AA start today:
4 IP, 4 H, 4 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 4 K’S
He was mostly hurt by errors behind him (Duda and Tejada) that made him work more.
His numbers in the two starts combined:
11 IP, 9 H, 4 R, 2 ER, 1 HR, 5 BB, 9 K’S, .231 BAA
And remember, this kid is 19 years old. Impressive.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
I'll take it
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Luis!!!!
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
The bunt already
In a game with TIM REDDING VERSUS JAMIE MOYER
jesus h. christ
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Yeah that's a major facepalm
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
can we let him hit 2-1?
he’s a major league hitter
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 11, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions
Well 1 already
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Alright
So we gotta beat both the Phillies and Jerry Manuel tonight.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
1-0
whoopdie doo
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
i dont think he was trying to do that
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 11, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
he was showing from the start
and early every at-bat
it was a SAC all the way
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
As we expend two outs to get this one run in.
Howard will park one in the top of the 2nd to show everyone how stupid Jerry is.
Yeah but now if Sheff makes an out
We have David Wright leading off the next inning. All part of the Jerry’s plan, which also includes fourties and blunts.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm thinking of that Chappelle's show skit
Da Mad Real World where they’re all “Go get me a Philly blunt son (and a banana cognac beeyotch!)” as they’re shooting dice in the alley instead of working.
by All Shook Down on Jun 11, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Beltran
Be okay, please.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Howards fucking huge feet
blocking the base.
Omar and Jerry, dumbest tandem in baseball and winning in spite of them.
Okay, 1 run isn't terrible
Could be better, but what’re ya gonna do?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
We got one run, but bunting still isn't the right move
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Does anyone know where I can find the chart...
that gives odds of scoring with every possible situation in an inning (i.e. bases loaded 0 out, bases empty 2 out, etc.)
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Hey all.
Redding lookin’ alright thus far.
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
he is
silky smooth
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
He really says it like that?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Haha
Yes. He says his name deliberately. I think it’s a subtle tweak toward Mets fans.
by All Shook Down on Jun 11, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa SNY advertisements are channeling the MTA?
“If they see something, they’ll say something?”
Who are the ad wizards who came up with that one?
more like the other way...lol
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Dub.
Getting it started.
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
"Stay hot David Wright"
Paging Ted Robinson…
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Senor Dos Outs
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
That was the best contact Tatis has had in a while
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
blahhhhh
nice swing tatis
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
his slow swing works perfect with Moyer
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
+1
Saw your claim to this in the fanshot. Love it. Lets go F!
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
AWESOME!!!!
I was trying to do that!
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I'm not going to lie.
I’m horrible with photoshop, so I had my sister do it for me. hahah.
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
That still doesn't make it any less awesome
And I’m worse at photoshop
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 11, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions
my bad
i was reading S.I on my keybord
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 11, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Larry Broadway sucked again today
4 1/3 IP, 3 ER, etc etc etc
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
yeah whatever
Larry, Lance, Not Ramon,
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Blah FMart
Stop swinging at those pitches too far in on your hands.
Cmon.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
who?
only Jose Valentin could help
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Omir Santos
Eres muy mal.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
I'm just glad Santos saw more than two pitches.
It’s a moral victory
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Jose Reyes turned 26 today.
I remember when he was 20. Damn.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
ARGH MICHAEL MILKIN
Wayne Hagin and the junk bond king on WFAN? Fuck it, I’m tuning over to the Phillies broadcast.
damn
so much for holding the lead run lead
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 11, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions
Redding
fail
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
NIce play SANTOS!!
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
DAMN DAMN DAMN!
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
this is why you DON'T BUNT IN THE FIRST INNING
You weren’t going to win this game 1-0, Jerry.

Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
How many stupid moves this year?
Omar and Jerry, dumbest tandem in baseball and winning in spite of them.
I tought it went past 10 trillion
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Please
Not here. No politics, or anything, or anythin non-baseball.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
You guys were asking for a number of stupid moves by Jerry
That number was my closest estimate.
by All Shook Down on Jun 11, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
NO
You’re outta here! Get out the banhammer!
by James Kannengieser on Jun 11, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we can all agree the economy sucks
almost as much as Jerry’s managing
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
El Duque is back
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Geez, I can't wait to watch the indians and cardinals sunday night on ESPN
instead of, you know, santana in yankee stadium.
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 11, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions
You want to listen to Steve Phillips?
Omar and Jerry, dumbest tandem in baseball and winning in spite of them.
The less the Mets are on ESPN, the better
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
luis
is rippin it
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Bunt Jerry??????/
I’d laugh angrily.
Omar and Jerry, dumbest tandem in baseball and winning in spite of them.
ha...ha...ha >:0
I will not allow the denigration of the life essence
by GenJackRipper on Jun 11, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
IS
THIS A JOKE?!?!!?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Jerrys an idiot regardless.
Omar and Jerry, dumbest tandem in baseball and winning in spite of them.
Really????????????????????????/
Omar and Jerry, dumbest tandem in baseball and winning in spite of them.
GOOD LORD WHAT ARE WE DOING?!
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
GOD DAMN IT
USE YOUR HEAD JERRY.you will not win 2-1
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 11, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions
I don't think it was Jerry's call
I PRAY
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
I would prefer, until there is evidence to the cotrary, to assume that Jerry called the bunt
and that Cora recogniszed how stupid the move was with a great fielding 3rd-baseman and tried his best to get on base.
I will not allow the denigration of the life essence
by GenJackRipper on Jun 11, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
That had to be for a bae hit right?
Jerry didn’t tell him to do it.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I want to blame Jerry
We don’t have enough legends in baseball and this, like the called shot, should memorialize Jerry’s idiocy for the generations.
I will not allow the denigration of the life essence
by GenJackRipper on Jun 11, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice
Go Tron
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Even if Jerry didn't call for that bunt
it’s his fault for instilling this culture of giving up outs.
Just so we all know
When Luis Castillo doubles to lead off the first, the Mets had a 60.7% chance of winning
After Cora’s bunt, it was 59.3%
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
facts:
http://www.fangraphs.com/liveplays.aspx?gameid=290611121
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
yes,
but those probabilities do not take into account who’s batting. Consequently, for some hitters, the bunt can increase the probability of winning.
Does it bother anyone else that Wright isn't up now?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I'd actually prefer Wright hitting second
but since that would mean he would be asked to bunt constantly it doesn’t work. But yes, Wright should def be hitting in front of Sheffield.
Excuse me, wasn't up then?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Why is David Wright not hitting cleanup
Sheffield is blah right now
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Matt Cerrone
…my eyeballs bleed
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
OH GOOD.
MATT CERRONE I’M SO EXCITED!
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
What? Where??
I will not allow the denigration of the life essence
by GenJackRipper on Jun 11, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
is it time to take SNY and Matt aside
and whisper that his fan polls couldn’t be less valid if they were conducted by the North Korean government?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
WHAT DA FANS THINKING!!??
59% said duh
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
11%
furrowed their brow in a fruitless attempt to understand the question
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 11, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt Cerrone...
pompous dickwad, more like it.
Omar and Jerry, dumbest tandem in baseball and winning in spite of them.
Can we just trade Cerrone?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Cerrone for a new laptop...
wait thats a ripoff. Cerrone for a used laptop.
Omar and Jerry, dumbest tandem in baseball and winning in spite of them.
Jesus.
“UHHH MORE PITCHING AND …..MORE PITCHING.”
I know he didn’t yell it, that’s just how it sounds in my head when he speaks.
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
Sheffield also...
shouldnt be hitting cleanup.
Omar and Jerry, dumbest tandem in baseball and winning in spite of them.
Sheffield's presence posted this line
.850/1.203/2.390
by All Shook Down on Jun 11, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Here it is:
List of Things I Don’t Care About:
1. The Phillies
2. Anything the Marlins announcers say.
3. Yankees
4. That so many other people wanted to list what they didn’t care about.
5. The Marlins new ballpark
6. Marlon Anderson’s career.
7. Whatever Matt Cerrone has to say.
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
Ugh.
We know. Good lord, do we ever know.
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
He lucked into the Metsblog domain name
named anything else he does not have that gig
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Matt Cerrone
What a dweeb. This blog and blogs like MetsGeek are on a level so much higher than Captain Obvious and his regurgitated crap.
you're not biased or anything
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not even a good writer, let alone analyst.
Omar and Jerry, dumbest tandem in baseball and winning in spite of them.
He, has, no command, of, proper comma usage
,and if i had a dime for, the every time he, wrote, “that is to say”, or, “for what its worth”, or something, equally, maddening, id, buy s,n,y myself and, make sure he, never saw airtime, again
he just imagines shatner saying everything
then puts commas or ellipses in where the pauses fall.
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 11, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
There was one time when he criticized Ed Coleman for using a phrase repeatedly
“…i get the sense that…”
“…from what i can gather…”
“…get em on…get em over…get em in…”
by All Shook Down on Jun 11, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Two best Mets sites on the internets
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
SNY
Stop interviewing people I don’t care about.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
This includes Cerrone
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
What would Cerrone's polls look like if he were president?
59^% said the dollar would be stronger with a grittier picture of George Washington…40% said we should trade California for Nova Scotia…
I will not allow the denigration of the life essence
getting uncomfortable
get a room, Kevin!!
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Nice play Luis
You totally beat your range right there.
“Ranging really well to his right” from Keith
Ugh
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
how he does it with an arm as weak as mine
i’ll never know
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
REDDING STRIKES HIM OUT
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
twice
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
God, I feel horrid for David Wright.
“Hey guys, I’ve only led off with a single and stolen second base 3-4 times in the past 36 hours…”
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
goes to show that he should be batting cleanup so all of singles are rbi's
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 11, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Or at least somewhere higher than 5th.
Seriously. I mean, it would make sense for him to bat leadoff what with his beastly OBP, but nooooo…
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
he has nobody behind him
that can drive him in or even get hin to 3rd
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 11, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
REDDING...
dealing?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
be patient
he’ll be back
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
so is everyone enjoying their dinner of cheetos and grape gatorade in their parents basement tonight?
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 11, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions
then ill say it
papi must be back on the juice
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 11, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
he might as well get back on 'em
he sucks without them
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 11, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
2-1 was loooooow.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
OMG
BEAST BEAST BEAST BEAST
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
UGHHHHHHHH
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
I just noticed how many times I have seen David lead off the past few.
Sheff: cooking up another inning ending ground ball.
Christ almighty
are these guys busting out of the box? i hope so
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
WOW
how many times have we made outs on the basepads
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 11, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions
That throw was rediculous
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
That sucks
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I have to give Minaya credit for bringing Redding on board, he’s historically absolutely owned the Phillies. He’s worth it for that alone.
http://www.thegoodphight.com
It's been 4 innings
and he’s given up 1 run! Man, sample size….
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
"historically"
3.29 ERA against PHI in his career, 65.2 innings.
better?
http://www.thegoodphight.com
I'm ok with trying
Took a perfect throw to get him.
Video
on what???
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
That throw
was incredible.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
The black looks nice
It just not Mets colors
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I think it's an ugly color
I’d prefer it to be the darker blue color that’s used throughout the stadium. It’s nicer looking and neutral.
by All Shook Down on Jun 11, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I think someone spliced Endy Chavez genes into Raul Ibanez
Its some kind of Ibaneves mutant.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions
It's the sickest, stupidest, damnedest luck
All of a sudden Pedro Feliz is a good hitter? They’ve stuck with Carlos Ruiz and he’s OPSing .900 batting 8th. Ibanez is leading baseball in position player WAR!
by All Shook Down on Jun 11, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Its really true
These are all things that just seem like they shouldn’t be true.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not just Amaro
It’s that savage Pat Gillick too.
by All Shook Down on Jun 11, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
but tatis can get a hit
when david is not on base
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 11, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions
I thought for sure
Jerry was gonna have Tatis bunt with none on and one out
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Raul Ibanez UZR/150
2006: -5.4
2007: -23.3
2008: -10.4
2009: 11.1
????
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
It bugs the hell out of me
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
How does that happen?
Its really astounding.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
raul ibanez heard that
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
C'mon F!
Don’t swing at the low pitch.
Why does F! start against the crafty lefty anyway?
I will not allow the denigration of the life essence
low and inside I mean
I will not allow the denigration of the life essence
by GenJackRipper on Jun 11, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
it would be funny if ibanez
was reading AA
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 11, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions
F!
YEA HIT BY PITCH!
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Raul Ibanez
has a .318 BABIP, a 15.5 LD%, and a 43.3 GB%
How the hell is he doing so well?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Ryan Howard is sharing his stash
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
25% hr/FB rate
which is completely unsustainable
Eating a sandwich
Because it’s the first base coach’s job.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Santos sucks
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
WHAT A GRITTY POP UP!
I swore I just heard a boo or two.
IT’S BEGINNING!!!
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
It's not even fun laughing at Santos anymore.
The reality of giving away Castro is really sinking in.
Hit off the wall, Single, HBP
0 RUNS!!!
NEED MORE BUNTING!
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
is that eckstein? looks like a cardinals uni
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 11, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
he should stop, drop and roll
running will only fan those flames
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 11, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
ugh
nice stop, yucky throw
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
he really took his time with that too
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
second base
is where his arm belongs
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Santos will go on the 2-30 slump that his minor league OPS will indicate`
But his clutchiness will fade for sure, and then a .280 OBP of all singles will show itself for how crappy it is.
I will not allow the denigration of the life essence
at least he'll be available in aug and sept unlike certain other big domed backstops
he’s hitting 270 and contributing.
yet you guys criticize him, literally after every at-bat.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
why?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
because
he’s very, very bad
he has a sub .300 OBP and a low SLG
he’s not good
he sucks
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
its just an echo chamber in here
i expect better from this group. more reasonable would be to notice how unfair it is to criticize any player after every single out they make, and go silent when is in the middle of late rallies as he seems to be quite often. talk about bias.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Go look at Omir Santos's entire minor league career
That has spanned years and years.
Then go look at how he has done for the Mets this season and for how long he has played this season compared to his entire career in the minors.
Then come back.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
condescending isn't cool
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I honestly wasn't trying to be
I’m trying to remind you not to get caught up in the moment and go look at a large sample size.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
you're missing the point, though
we’re not really criticizing Santos for making outs, we’re criticizing A) the Mets’ front office for making the bad decision to keep him based on a small sample size during a hot streak rather than the much larger sample size that suggested a regression to a lower level, and B) broadcasters who bought into the hype.
as has been said multiple times, we hope Santos is the very best he can be for the Mets, but because we know that’s unlikely to be very good, we think the front office should be mocked.
It's an empty .270
His OBP is sub-.300 making him a pretty easy out.
by All Shook Down on Jun 11, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
We have different ideas of "contributing" I guess
He’s basically a RH version of Brian Schneider. 270 singles hitter w/o much power or walks. And Schneider walks a bit more often. He’s barely above replacement so I can’t see how he can be called a contributor. Although I understand your point that this board is particularly hard on him.
its just silly
he’s playing pretty well for who he is. plus it is hard to ignore the FACT that Castro never makes it through more than July. Never (except 2005).
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
nobody is blaming santos for being bad
we’re blaming management
santos tries his hardest. it’s cute.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
if that was true
but that’s not what the threads are saying night after night
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Santos is not a good baseball player.
It doesn’t mean we hate him, we hate the fact that he’s playing so much when there was a superior option. Also it quicker to “Santos sucks” than “Omar should have kept Castro instead and Manuel shouldn’t have been giving so much time to Santos.”
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
that's no excuse, not the AA way
that’s what metsblog is for, according to what I’ve read. we’re sophisticates.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
WHY SHOULD WE SANTOS CREDIT FOR BEING A BASEBALL PLAYER
DO YOU GET CREDIT FOR BEING A PERSON?
by All Shook Down on Jun 11, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not sure I follow your comment
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Castro's proneness to injury
Even so, why wouldn’t it make sense to keep Hippo unless and until he gets injured, and then use Santos, who is not as good at baseball?
my point is that the mob here seems to ignore the fact that castro never plays in the fall
never. Had omar not payed for the privilege, it would’ve been a decent move.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
He was healthy this year.
Why are you presuming and injury that will/may never come.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
why are you presuming omir will "regress"
its all speculation. However, Castro is 33 and I think my assumption is every bit as reasonable since he breaks down like a clock. Was Moise Alou better than the Hammer? Of course, but it doesn’t matter.
Guys, if you want to argue that we need to see more Schneider, than that’s fine.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
UMMM
Because regression is something that you can expect to a MUCH higher degree that an injury.
Besides, we can WAIT for Castro to get an injury if you assume he will.
But Santos has already shown signs of regression.
You will get killed for that post, I must say.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
I could care less if i get killed, i think this group needs a wakeup call
it just makes us look silly to keep harping on this like it was Milledge or Kazmir II, and ignore when Santos does anything worthwhile.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm thrilled that Santos hs helped our team.
But I worry that his prolonged time here will hurt our chances of winning.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Castro still should have been kept and Santos in the minors.
That way “when” castro is injured Santos is still there as a replacement
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
+1?
then you’d have exactly the situation you have now!!
thus you’re criticizing the mets for deciding that 2 months more of Blastro wasn’t worth riding a younger, cheaper, most-likely-to-be-healthy, similar BACKUP catcher while he was hot. That doesn’t sound like such a crazy decision anymore.
I get that management isn’t popular, but tortured logic.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
No your statement is illogical.
I’m saying keep Castro, a better player, and Santos and Schnieder. IF Castro gets injured then play Santos (who isn’t the worst third option ever), and if Castro is healthy you have him all year.
Castro is better, plain and simple, and to trade him for nothing is absolutely ridiculous.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
O and even when Santos was "hot" he was still not as good as Castro, the numbers say so.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
That's kind of the point though
We’ve seen his best. It’s not going to get better, it’s going to get worse as he regresses to what he really is. Maybe we shouldn’t kill him for being who he is but he doesn’t really belong on this team, not over Castro or Valentin for sure. And it’s aggravated by the fact that mgmt seems to love him and has given him ~60% of the starts since his callup.
plenty of players play better too
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Santos
is NOT above replacement
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
and a wOBA of .300
Okay, I stand corrected.
He still sucks.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Nake that a .311 wOBA
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
eek
straighten out those tosses mikey
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
I love David
but he has to learn how to throw
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
His arm has been good of late
This is an outlier, it’s no longer the constant worry it once was.
I will not allow the denigration of the life essence
by GenJackRipper on Jun 11, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
they might move him to 1st next year
and put murph at 3rd
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 11, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions
Not gonna happen
Again, this is an outlier. His errors have decreased every year since 2005. This is a blip on the radar and Murph is much worse
I will not allow the denigration of the life essence
by GenJackRipper on Jun 11, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
So I hear Jerry is bunting a little bit tonight
So unlike him!
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions
LUIS!
YES!
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Slappy!
Time to bunt him over to 3d, apparently!
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions
Thank god Ibanez didn't get that
that was a Castillo “homerun”
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
I AM SO SCARED
THAT ALEX CORA IS ABOUT TO BUNT FOR THE THIRD STRAIGHT AT BAT
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
WHAT THE HELL JUST HAPPENED?
CASTILLO WITH THE POWER
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
He can't bunt here
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
what the hell?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
was that in response to the decision to bunt?
or my yelled conversation with myself? because I guess I did get a little carried away there.
no, in response to why the f*$ he was bunting
i think yelling was called for
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I KNOW I JUST SCREAMED THE SAME THING
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
WHAT IS WRONG WITH JERRY MANUAL
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Nothing. He's just not a good manager
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
I'm actually glad it's 0-2
until he bunts again
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 11, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions
Yet Jerry would
sit him versus every lefty
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
CALM DOWN!
Cora’s not bunting. Geez.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
He was
until 2 strikes
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Did he square around?
I was half cooking dinner while I’m watching
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Twice, yes
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Oooops - Manuel is a fucking moron.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
just like he pitches takahashi against lefties
even though hes better against righties
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 11, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions
"Cora bound and determined to advance Castillo"
I’d rather have my hitters determined to get hits, personally
I hate Jayson Werth
But I <3 Beltran
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Voltron!
That’ll do it!
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions
Good thing we're bunting and grounding out
Stupid Phillies are just sitting and waiting for a three run homer.
Idiots.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Haha they just called for the 3-run homer
The delivery guy promised it’ll be here by the 7th inning.
by All Shook Down on Jun 11, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I really want Santana to ignore Jerry every time he's told to bunt,
even when the situation calls for it. I want Jerry Manuel to be always shown up and dissed untill he is forced out of baseball.
I will not allow the denigration of the life essence
I was waiting for Johan to explain WPA to Jerry
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
I dream of day where Wright bats cleanup and we're not bunting with no outs and any but the pitcher up.
Alas, that dream will never come true.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
ya cause apparently its a stupid thing to put your two best hitter back to back in the lineup
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 11, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Man
all of a sudden this zone is getting smaller.
I iz scared.
North Korea?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
You know it, dum-dum

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you Vic.
Redding has really had 2 popups this inning.
Damn left fielder with – range.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Anybody here, like me, HAVE to listen to the Phillies feed?
… and have to put up with the most annoying voice in broadcasting, Gary Matthews?
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Frick
I hate Utley
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Ah, nuts.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions
Awesome range so far this inning.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Our players STILL don't know how to play Shitty Field
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
well
F! did just get here a few weeks ago
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Exactly
why Church should be playing. Defense still matters as the Phillies have shown.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
I kind of agree
w/Church healthy, he should be starting and Fartinez should be back in AAA to see regular ABs. But if they are keeping him on the MLB roster, they should get him in the lineup at least half of the time.
If Sheff was in RF
Utley would be on 3rd. Case-and-point: last week in Pittsburgh.
by All Shook Down on Jun 11, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
This game is pretty familiar
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Nice one, Timmay!
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions
Big K right there
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Stupid Phillies
How the hell didn’t they have Howard bunt?
Jerry is grinning over there. He knows he’s the man.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
+1
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
redding!
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
TIMMAY!
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions
YES!
HUGE
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Great Job Tim Redding!
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
i think he should chew more tobacco
it doesnt look like he has enough in his mouth
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 11, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions
Bad defense cost us a run
Bad defense cost us a run last night.
Our defense is really the silent killer.
it has not been that bad
but in the late innings we just seem to fall apart
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 11, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, echo this.
It’s been bad.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Everyone talks about the errors and egregious plays.
How about Castillo, the black hole, or Sheffield allowing extra bases all season. It really can’t be stated enough how bad it is.
by All Shook Down on Jun 11, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem is that our top defenders
i.e. Beltran, Church, Wright … they have been poor. We need more out of them.
It's seriously the most awkward thing ever.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Get this guy out
I dare you.
Can’t be done.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
I love you, Baseball Jesus.
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
I'm surprised he sees strikes.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions
17 for this last 25!
Dios mio!
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Cerrone-style poll
What is most likely to happen…
A…Omir Santos developing into an average major-league caliber…starting catcher
B…Jerry Manuel acquiring human intelligence around the normal level..
C Lastings Milledge becomes a world famous rapper…
I will not allow the denigration of the life essence
Isn't Milledge already
I mean noot George Bush, L-Millz is da president
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
DAMNIT
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
SAFE!!!!!!!
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
HE WAS SAFE
Such awful calls.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
I wanna see a replay
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
god
tatis only hits when david is not on base
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 11, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions
YES
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
fucking safe!
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Jerry,
Please stop hitting Wright fifth. It’s not fair. He’s like god, except he’s real. Please?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Agreed
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Whatever happened to hometown calls?
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
LOL
Very funny. Very true.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Keith has gotten his wish with Wright
He’s been urging him to forsake the uppercut and now he’s hitting for some outrageous average.
Run production is down, no?
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Power is hella down, but that's both Citi Field and a fluke.
I was quasi-mocking Keith there.
by All Shook Down on Jun 11, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
The way Moyer pitched tonight.
This was a dissapointing outing by the Mets offense.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
LMILLZ BE DA PRESIDENT

Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
"GANGSTA"???
Maybe in AAA.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
The Mets seem to draft
from the strangest places.
But they’ve been pretty good at their job.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Ugh
Pedro Feliz has been BABIPMONSTER against us.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Ughhhhh
It’s last night all over again.
PEN
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
hmm
mm. nuts. c’mon, Timmay.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions
UGh.
This makes me a sad panda.
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
How was the pen not warmed up????
Seriously?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Nobody was up in the bullpen?
MANUEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Well, you know.
He was pitchin’ well, and I didn’t think he would need any…gangsta..help out there. gangsta. and plus I was taking a nap. gangsta.
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
Tim Redding on the mound in the 7th inning...
even if he is throwing a no-no should be a sign that someone needs to be up. Stokes anyone? Sure, everyone except Jerry.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Goddamn Matt Stairs
the “Stone Cold” Steve Austin of the MLB.
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
Did Brian Stokes like run over Jerry's dog?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Good call
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
What's a Brian Stokes?
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
brain stokeS?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Something a Mets manager would say!
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I mean
This is just exactly like last night.
We just needed to get it to our pen in the 8th and 9th.
Fail 2.0
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
vomit
goddammit
thanks, jerry.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Who the hell is Sean Green warming up for?
Two switch hitters and a bunch of lefties?
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions
Sean Green is our best reliever and we need him in this high-leverage spot...
Ha, ha, ha, ha. I hate Jerry.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
This one is mind boggling. I'm sitting here thinking, okay who could be warming up?
Its gotta be a combination of Feliciano, Stokes, Parnell, and maybe Tak. Green’s marks already hit this inning (Feliz, Werth). But lo and behold, who is warming? Green.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean, Green's fine
But he’s a situational middle reliever, and there was no forseeable situation where he should be brought into the game.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
sigh
3-3
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions
So this game is going to end the same as yesterdays huh?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
let's hope not
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Jerry seriously thinks
we’re playing the Nats, and that 3 or 4 runs is totally enough.
He’s delusional.
The Phillies don’t have more grit or gut or anything. They just hit. And their manager lets them hit.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Redding is really laboring
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
i would have taken 7 innings of 3 run ball from redding to start the day
100%
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 11, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed
I had that conversation with a co-worker this afternoon. A pity we haven’t been able to push more runs across against Moyer.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
At least we're out
Now Jerry’s planning out how he can bunt to win the game.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Thank god.
I did not see that ending well.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Santos is 0-3
Gotta love that grit!
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
so wrong
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
BTW
Nice outing Timothy
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Man, remember when we (I wasn't here so I'm just assuming) Willi was a bad manager?
I miss Bobby V, and he left when I was 12
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
i was 12 too!
yay!
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
12 was a crazy age
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
lol oh yeah
it was all pokemon and hey arnold for this guy.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Pokemon was awesome, and hey arnold was great too, but i never loved nickelodeon that much.
I began working on being able to quote ever seinfeld line of every episode at twelve. I have now succeeded.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
hes taken over my most hated philly role from victorino
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 11, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
That order must change frequently
real horse race for first place?
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
absolutely
last night it was werth cause of that ridiculous catch
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 11, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually don't hate Utley
cause he’s the only Philly who isn’t overrated. He’s by far their best player but everyone else thinks it either Rollins or Howard.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Just to be clear, I hate him, just no as much as other phillies
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Yeah
When I’m not mad at the Phillies and am being objective, I really like him (and by that I mean hate him less than others). He just is awesome. Solid defense, great OBP, great slugger.
Alright, enough fawning.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Dirty little secret
I traded Jose Reyes for Chase Utley heads up in a standary 5×5 fantasy league just under a month ago. Felt like shit but knew it was the right move. And obviously it has worked out quite well.
That is the most disturbing thing I've ever read
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
yay
what an inning
let’s go pedro feliciawesome
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
What's worse is that Wright isn't even guarnteed to bat next inning.
Yay for crappy lineup construction!
Lets go feliciano
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
i would say if we get out of this top inning we'll win
but i said that like 4 times last night
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Gotta go folks.
I don’t want to. Ugh.
(Hopefully) Good night!
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
Okay Pedro
uno mas
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
ughhhhh
cmon dos
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Didn't know the count?
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
yes!
dos!
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Thank God
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
He's been spectacular this year
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Nice work, Pedro F.
Earning his keep this series!
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions
All season
This has been the best two and a half month stretch he’s had since 2006
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I was thinking a little more immediate
but yeah he’s been phenomenal all year. Better use by the manager as well as better pitching. Love it.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
bleh
cora didn’t know what to do
without the bunt he can’t function
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Wow Redding
6 K’s, 0 walks, 6 hits. I’ll take that against the Philth. Looks like a whole lotta Wright, Beltran, Castillo and not much else.
by James Kannengieser on Jun 11, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions
Omir's yet to show Philly the grission
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
C'mon fellas, let's go!
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Fuck
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Sweet.
I mean, ugh. The Mets’ best lead-off hitter gets to try it again next inning.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions
Well, Wright will get on
Tatis will bunt him over, F! will be intentionally walked, and Santo will hit into a double play
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
He's been such a good leadoff-type hitter
You should bat him ninth when Reyes comes back. Yeah, thats it, that seems to be the way to get the most out of Wright. Move him down even further!
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
You should totally call Jerry Manuel right now
before you forget how good that idea is hahaha
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
6 pitches
way to go boys
sheffield/jerry hitting him cleanup is getting on my nerve
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
The Omir Santos of the Yankees just hit a game tying double
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Sevelli
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Is Parnell here the right move?
I know it maybe crazy, but I’m actually aching for some more Sean Green.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Phillies are a very good fast ball hitting team
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
It was questionable
Especially given Frankie’s limited availability.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
where did everyone go?
WAKE UP FANS!
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
ughhh
The BABIPMONSTER wins again.
Goddamit.
This basically how the 7th inning started.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Coste should bunt
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
We definitely would here.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
there managers name is charlie not jerry
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 11, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions
"ThEIr"
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
My bad
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Ha. No problem. I couldn't resist.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
You from Philly?
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
nasty slider
there it is!
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Very nasty
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Way to mix in the slider, Parns!
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions
greg dobbs haunts my dreams
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
that and his occasional triple digits
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 11, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
The grand slam?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Was that last year or 07
it’s all one bad dream to me
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Just imagine how Heilman feels
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Nevermind 07
looked it up
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Nice
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions
attaboy parnell!
SCORE. NOW. GET IT OVER WITH.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
WE NEED TO SCORE HERE
I CANNOT TAKE ANOTHER EXTRA INNING GAME
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 11, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
I empathize with your pain
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
i know ive been saying homerun for wright the whole game...
but its finally coming right here
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 11, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
James K
Are you from Philly? Only people from Philadelphia call people named “Charlie” “Chollie.”
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Then how did you know?
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Good job
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Come on David
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Ugh
Wright with a bad 2-0 swing
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
So when does beltran come up again?
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 11, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions
Can this team get anything going late in a game?
I mean, the Phillies aren’t even throwing out good relievers.
My god.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Could D-wright
be the Mets first 50 double/10 HR guy?
He's a white guy...
so he might get an MVP out of it.
Grit and Leadership and Clutchiness count more than actual production
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Howard? Rollins?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Charlie bringing in the lefty
because he knows he has the top of his order coming up.
He’s a good manager. We have a bad manager.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
A-Rod with 1st and 3rd and 2 down in a 1-1 game, top 7
3-2 count
And…the..pitch…
double off the wall.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
he's so unclutch
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Ah nuts
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions
OH SHIT
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Is K-Rod unavailable?
Cuz if not…….ouch….
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
I'm guessing Jerry was going to use him if there was a save situation, and otherwise not
because Jerry doesn’t understand leverage
oh man
Honey bring my heart pills. Here is the number to Levy Phillips and Konigsberg. Sue the Mets if I die tonight.
I’ll dial the 1800-MESO, you dial the LAW
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 11, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
well
i am going to watch the nba finals.i hope we win
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 11, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions
parnell staying in?
i am not a fan.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
If you used him and he wasn't due to bat
You kind of have to. I agree, Green could have gotten the last inning and Parnell could have come in now, especially with K-Rod available for one inning max most likely
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol say it ain't so
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
ugh
here we go
i can smell 4 games out
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
he's close
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
wow hes gonna bring in takahashi against the lefties
when he does far better against righties. and has not been good against lefties
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 11, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions
YOU SHUT UP WITH YOUR FACTS AND YOUR LOGIC
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
i know its stupid to use them during baseball
its all about grit and guts
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 11, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Can someone tell me if that...
3rd pitch ‘ball’ was as right-down-the-middle as it appears to be?
phew
1 down
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Good
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 9:49 PM EDT reply actions
shane victorino is a pretty useful player for being cheap and a rule V pickup
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
I want to punch him
in that goiter-y chin of his.
blahhhh
stop falling behind hitters
you cannot walk this guy
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Yeah wow
not really sure that was the Parns comparison I was looking for. It’s kind of like how they pointed out that Frankie had the longest save streak to begin a season for the Mets since Anthony Young.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
ughhhhhhh
base hit
and now the big boys
and no feliciano
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
If Parnell ever gets control of his slider...
he could be another …. dare I say it? No, I won’t
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
THIS IS SOOO STUPID
I CANT STAND IT
OMGOMOMG
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 11, 2009 9:51 PM EDT reply actions
that's a great impression
you should find and open mic
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 11, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
IM SCARED!!!!!!!!!!!!
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
lefties are hitting .440 against him
but jerry says:
“A lefty throws with his left hand!”
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
ha
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Did he check the splits?
I do not mind Takahashi, but not against lefties…. actually, Green has good splits
dear american investor
thank you for your interest in mistah sparkle
I seriously want Howard to hit a game-winning 3-run HR
Bunting 3 times and this retarded move with Takahashi, he has to be held accountable, and in this stupid results-based NY sports culture, that will only happen if he bungles his way into a game-winning HR against the hated division rivals…
and after a crappy base-hit…although Parns probably should not face good lefties
I will not allow the denigration of the life essence
stop it
Even if that happens nothing will come from it. We have learned that.
Just try to win in spite of him.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
That might be true
Then again, this is the first time a manager has been so stupid in one game that I wanted him to be punished for it. I do believe that Manuel is on ice here.
I will not allow the denigration of the life essence
by GenJackRipper on Jun 11, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
does jerry not even talk to the pitchers, much less check the stats. I am sure takahashi knows he can’t get lefties out
+3
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
3-1 to utley
and here we go again peoplez…
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
whattya charge meds
you’d pay to be bench coach, fess up
walked him
lol wow
what a joke
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
The ump gave Parnell some calls
I’m not complaining
I will not allow the denigration of the life essence
by GenJackRipper on Jun 11, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
ugh
MLB.tv sucks – it froze my comp twice, and now it won’t let me log in b/c I’ve “logged in too many times in too short a period” – yea, maybe b/c you’re service is a joke. Asshats. Anyway, I’m glad Jerry’s going with his “gut” – always good to have a lefty in against lefties. What’s that? Lefties are hitting over .400 against him. Oh…
YES
HUGE K
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
strike out!
one more!
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Tak!
Nice. Small breath.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions
One more Ken
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
what are tatis saying to takahasi?
“oye loco, que lo que?”
“????”
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
I hate Gazoo
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
nice
good call on howard’s platoon splits zwill
omg
fuck my life
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Fuck me runnin'.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
wow
fuck me
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
called that one before the inning started
"I used to be legit. I was too legit. I was too legit to quit. but now I'm not legit. I'm unlegit. And for that reason, I must quit."
Can Jettu get fired tonight at 3:30AM?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Jerry, not Jettu
i have no beef with Jettu
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Fire 'em both
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
just came back to say
FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 11, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
I just came to say how much I care
I will not allow the denigration of the life essence
by GenJackRipper on Jun 11, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
3 lefties
was way too many.
This will be picked up by even the local beat writers.
thank god we’re changing pitchers now
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 11, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
that has always upset me
You just lose the game, leave him in. Especially with Tak, who only gets righties out anyway
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 11, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
We could have easily swept this series too
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
good thing i skipped on the game tonight
another extra inning loss thanks to our awful lineup and terrible manager after we had the lead thanks to good SP
what a shocker we’re 4 games out
BRING ON THE YANKEES
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
With a DH, maybe there will be less bunting?
Who am I kidding?
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 11, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Luis will tie it up with a 3 run homer
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
why?
they’re doing what they’re supposed to. i hate them too, but they made the right moves in the off-season, have a smart manager, and have a talented core.
hate the people that cause your team with an even more talented core to lose to these guys every year.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Exactly
There are things about the Mets that I love, things that I hate.
There’s nothing about the Phillies that I don’t hate.
Charlie Manuel isn't exactly a genius
He’s just much better than our subnormal counterpart
I will not allow the denigration of the life essence
by GenJackRipper on Jun 11, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Right at the end of Gary's home run call
Keith made a little “oh no” groan in the background. I had to rewind the tivo and crank the volume to hear it.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
I really think
even the NY Post dudes will figure out takhashi sux against lefties. I think Jerry will be gone soon. Problem is Omar will say injuries are hurting us not jerry
Nah
my prediction is that the NY Post dudes will note that it was Ibanez who hit the home run, and the Mets totally could have had him and look at it all now.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I should note here that
Omir Santos anagrams as ‘Into Morass’. Sounds about right.
"parnell will have losses on back to back nights"
give ’em both to jerry
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
the phils picked up ibanez and chan ho
and that’s enough to beat the mets. Cause Omar knew he didn’t need to get anyone for the lineup, he had Delgado.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
raul ibanez
has about 75% of the mets total homers for the season
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
That man is not Raul Ibanez
I want a DNA test done
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
ibanez
has taken burrell’s met killer mantle (mantel?)
F U Jerry Manuel
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Orlando 43 LA 32
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
I was reading about that
in Who Gives a Fuck magazine
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 11, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry
that was rude. I’m angry and that’s a funny line that I didn’t make up
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 11, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
No problem. I'm angry with you. Trust me.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
lol
that is really funny
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
thank goodness
i’ll sleep a lot better
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
sounds good
i totally rocked some delicious chicken wings after softball. always a good call.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm gonna rock some trader joes premade pasta
cuz im too lazy to boil water
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
doesn't require water at all?
I could use something like that around here. No Trader Joe’s to be found in upstate NY
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Trader Joe has changed my GD life
The best part about moving across the country, leaving friend and family, and living in a desert.
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 11, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
i honestly don't want to move anywhere without one
not that theyre perfect
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
oops
sorry catsmeat, not wishing that on anyone
haha i wasn't gonna say anything
not his fault he was put in a position to fail. i mean, yes it ultimately was his fault, but you know what i’m saying.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
As someone who loves baseball
It also kills me to know we are being horribly, horribly managed and run as a whole, and the Phillies aren’t.
I can’t even throw it up to luck or some other bullshit. The Phillies are just run better.
I mean, look who is leading off for us right now.
I’m in a serious state of depression.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
that is good news
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
The irony
of the 3 run homer beating us when Jerry was bunting all game.
It is just too much. Too much.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Tak cares
I feel for him
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
A manager's job is to put his players in position to succeed
It’s not Tak’s fault
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 11, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
So when is it okay to question Ibanez?
37 years old, 14 year career, HR high 33, 2nd highest total 24. He’s going to have the second highest HR toal of his career at 37 by next week. He’s going to have the highest total of his career by the all-star break. He’s going to double his previous 14 year career high. But don’t question him.
Yup
Look at Sosa. No record of every taking steroids. Nothing. Ever.
Let’s see if he makes the hall.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
And any other number of guys
But apparently speculation and presumption of guilt is acceptable in those cases.
Hey I never said
he was doing anything wrong. But who doubles their 14 yr career HR total at 37? He should sell a workout tape or something.
I think our commentary was more along the lines of
why is it acceptable to accuse some guys and not others? The backlash against this blogger has been swift but I don’t hear anyone decrying the rampant mainstream media speculation we’ve read over the last five years.
You answered your own question
The MSM didn’t do it so it’s wrong. If they did then, hey, they’re doing it in the public interest.
SHHHHHH
HE CAN HEAR YOU
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
I'm in the living room
Not the basement.
You know who should question him is the Mariners. They should ask for their money back.
+1
Wonder if they calculated their WAR difference since the trade?
by cuseindahuse on Jun 11, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
OK that is a thing
keep on chipping.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions
Santos with a single.
Man if this were a tie game what an exciting inning this could have been.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Come on jeremy two on for Luis
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Come on Luis, two on for Alex
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
was rollins near the bag?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Lets get beltran up here
please
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Will Carroll tweet
RT @iracane: Raul Ibanez really JUICED that ball out of the park. That’ll INJECT some excitement into the Phillies fans.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
LOL for real?
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 11, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Will Carroll is an idiot
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
piitb.
fuck. ah well. on to the dang bronx.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
I hate you Jerry Manuel
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Fuck
Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.
You left out a few
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Gary Cohen: "Manuel gambled and lost"
If I go snorkeling inside a cement truck, did I “gamble and lose?”
I will not allow the denigration of the life essence
If I go to attica
and brag loudly about my sweet ass, did I gamble and lose?
I will not allow the denigration of the life essence
by GenJackRipper on Jun 11, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
don't stop while you're ahead
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
it might not be grit
but can you blame the phillers for being confident that they can always always always come back and beat the mets at this point?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
the same way
you can’t blame me for turning my chair around during extra innings?
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
if it helps keep the tears of your keyboard
then more power to ya
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 11, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
4 games out!
And last night we were one break away from being 1 game out.
LOLZ JERRY MANUELZ LOLZ
Nobody will say a word about his awful managing. Injuries. Omar.
Jerry is gold.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
OT: the new Mos Def album sounds good
it’s definitely better than his last two/jerry manuel
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
Yea real good album.
Were you the one with the Madvilliany avatar?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Always good to see that some people still listen to good hip hop.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
like l-millz
I actually think we’ve got a good group of hip-hop fans here if we ever got sick of the mets.
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
As long as there ain't no Soulja Boy or Lil Wayne fans
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
that's a harsh grouping for weezy
but I agree
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
QB reprezent
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
If I mix gunpowder, detergent, and cocain and put it in my coffee at 50 proof
did I gamble and lose?
I will not allow the denigration of the life essence
my baby daughter
just woke up screaming. she must have seen jerry call for takahashi in her dreams. it was no dream
the mets come from ahead to lose again
hard to believe that takahashi wasn’t the answer to phillies more powerful lineup
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
If I think it would be a great idea to pay my drug dealer with a check and send a thank you note
did I gamble and lose?
I will not allow the denigration of the life essence
Where is the outrage?
There was a mob calling for Willie’s head two years ago. We have improved zero, and no noise. Manuel sucks. We need a real manager.
Outrage against the manager?
Plenty of it here. Unless maybe you were referring to the mainstream sports media?
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure there is outrage here.
But you never hear anyone in the booth questioning him. Or anywhere else for that matter. When it was Willie, there was a Willie watcher every game.
by lstorie1971 on Jun 11, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
It's just the news cycle
Willie wore out his welcome over time. Jerry will do the same. Let’s not pretend it’s about merit in this organization.
Wille was run out of town
because he pissed of the writers. The writers love Jerry. It happened to Bobby V too. He was smarter thna them and liked to remind them of it and they didn’t like that.
It was happening to Coughlin too but he won the SB so he is safe for now.
I love how manuel just used the "we don't have enough" line.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Yeah
he took a couple of digs at Omar didn’t he?
Maine on the DL
Woo hoo! 2/5 of the rotation on the DL. Geez, if it wasn’t for bad luck…
whoa, what?
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 11, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Just accounced on SNY
Omar coming up to talk about it.
If half the minor league sysytem wasn’t also hurt they could bring up Holt.
Unless Delgado and Reyes are coming back SOON ...
Omar must make a move or two. We cannot compete without our “spark plug” and our “thumper.”
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
We have been competing just fine.
We just need a manager that knows how to use his damn bullpen.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran






























