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And That Happened

After a devastating loss Friday, general Omar Minaya announced a surprise press conference the following morning to announce some serious personnel changes.

"First I've decided the best direction to take this team is with a new manager," he said, shocking all press members in attendance. It had been widely thought that Minaya and manager Jerry Manuel were on good terms and at no point this season was Manuel's job at risk.

"While I think Jerry did a good job with our young players and was very popular, I just think the lack of focus on the fundamentals and small tactical mistakes won't fly in a close pennant race. I just want to make the change before these problems become magnified in September. That being said and all, I'd like to introduce Bobby Valentine as our new acting manager"

Then, Valentine, a fan favorite who lead the Mets to their last World Series appearance, joined Minaya on stage to don the blue and orange Mets hats once again. The announcement was met by a surprising number of claps from the media section. Before Valentine could field questions, however, Minaya dropped several other bombshells.

"I also like to announce two trades. First with the Seattle Mariners. We've made a move sending Scott Moviel, Eddie Kunz, and Daniel Murphy to the Mariners for Russel Branyan, Ichio Suzuki, and Erik Bedard. Obviously we felt this move shored up our offense, defense and pitching, and gave us flexibility in how we use youngster Fernando Martinez, who we have alot of faith in."

Minaya wasn't done there, however. Without missing a beat, he preempted the inevitable questions with the following speech: "Now I don't want this move to seem like a reaction to an obviously a tough loss last night. I think our guys showed some passion out there, getting a big hit off Mariano Rivera and fighting back. We just felt this move prepares us to finally finish out the season strong, and fight through these injuries. Actually, I've done alot of reflecting on last night's loss and found it oddly fitting that Luis Castillo dropped a ball that cost Francisco Rodriguez a save. Luis Castillo, probably the worst contract of my tenure here, represents my tunnel-vision failure these past three off-seasons to take a holistic approach toward building a roster. Just like I neglected the bullpen, and the outfield depth in previous seasons, so to did I neglect defense and starting pitching in my need to secure the 9th inning. After all, if there's anything this loss taught us, it's that you can't save games if you can't catch. As such, I'm resigning as general manager, and volunteering my services in recruiting an acting general manager better-suited for building a championship caliber team than myself."

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Then you woke up

Recounting your vision to a shrink while wearing a straight jacket in a padded room.

by cuseindahuse on Jun 12, 2009 11:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is the last Mets-related thingy I'm gonna read for the weekend.

Nice work.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 12, 2009 11:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i hope you know

that if the mets did that trade it’d pretty much be an utter disaster. not sure if that was supposed to be part of the good stuff. but ichiro is old, bedard is always hurt, branyan is getting old and not very good and never played a full season.

ike, flores, murph…three of our best young talents. plus moviel and kunz, ok.

maybe i’m taking it too seriously but the part of my brain that understands humor is for some reason not working right now.

David Eckstein: so gritty they would eat him in the south for breakfast with some butter and sprinkle cheese.

by wrightHOF on Jun 12, 2009 11:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yea, that trade is confusing

i know the post is a fantasy of what we want the mets’ front office to do, but i don’t know how favorable that trade would be on first blush.

by englishgrey on Jun 13, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, same.

But the general point makes sense.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 13, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My only quibble is Flores.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 13, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fine you freaking ike davis sympathizers

HAVE YOUR FAKER TRADE

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Jun 13, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

still an enjoyable post

we appreciate the effort, sam

by englishgrey on Jun 13, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I doubt it was easy to do that in catatonic shock.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 13, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And it was all a dream...

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 13, 2009 12:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the best part of this post is the typo/omission in the first line

We should call this dickweed “General Minaya” just like the retarded congresspeople and justices of the Supreme Court said “General Ashcroft” instead of “Attorney General Ashcroft.”

God, the stupidity of that shit pisses me off to no end. (No offense to your typo, Sam. It just reminded me of this BS.)

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Jun 13, 2009 5:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A Great job for Minaya would be...

New President…FEMA….."nice job, Minayaeee! "

by David G on Jun 13, 2009 7:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NOW WE WILL SEE.....

Now we will see what this team is made of man o man o man you can’t lose no worst than that. That ranks up there with the best of them from any team. Hey the Mets can say what they want to the media but everybody in the world who watches baseball know they are fuming with Castillio. The Mets of this era the team that I know right now will fold under this devistating loss for weeks to come. Short term memory is the key here. If there is any game the mets need to forget is this one. Its going to be very interesting to see how this already fragil underacheiveing squad is going to do Lets GO Mets I’m rooting for ya you can do it!!!

Bigtimemetsfan

by longtimemetfan on Jun 13, 2009 10:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The only possible end to the Omar Minaya era

Would come by way of Bud Selig hiring him to become some sort of MLB suit. Then the Wilpons would actually have to hire another GM, which would make us all uneasy.

by All Shook Down on Jun 13, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree...

Omar Minaya is definitely not without his faults, but I honestly don’t think he is a bad GM. I think he is somewhere in the middle of the pack. He has a great eye for talent, and he is aggressive in his decision making. He does some stupid things, but I don’t mind having him here. What scares me is with the Wilpons there is no guarantee at all that by firing Minaya they would upgrade at the position. Who are some names you guys think would be thrown around if Minaya got the axe. Do you think they would try to go after a guy like Depo or stay internal with Bernazard? I really don’t know, who would you guys like to see running this team (somebody that is not currently a GM of another team)?

"It's like the old phrase goes.....The balls in your court now Mr.Church, so you take that ball, you dribble it up the court and....................................... get a layup"
- Keith Hernandez

by nrmax88 on Jun 13, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone intelligent.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 13, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I honestly couldn't roll off the candidates

But at the very least, this organization someone who understands, you know, organization. Omar has a tremendous eye for talent. He’s done all the right things with the headline trades, he’s acquired some lesser talent that’s more often than not, been better than even he could have reasonably expected. But he doesn’t seem to understand much about contract negotiation, internal player moves, or just overall problem solving. He has no creativity in terms of foresight, the only long-term issues he’s able to correctly identify are the same ones that every bagel-eating fan can identify as well. I’ve made this point before, even in 2006, he didn’t build that team, he got lucky that it turned out to be a well built team. Jose Valentin? An everyday player? Steve Trachsel? Your second most reliable starter? Multiple starts from Jose Lima, Geremi Gonzalez, and Alay Soler? If you told Omar that was how the Mets would make the playoffs on March 1, 2006, he’d have looked at yo awkwardly and gone “wha??”.

None of this is to say he doesn’t deserve credit for some of this. He did identify Jose Valentin as an undervalued talent. He did pick up John Maine after he’d lost his top prospect status. But still, the team concept wasn’t a brilliant one, it was still kind of a mish mash of talent that just happened to come together in the proper way, and afford itself just enough of a buffer to live without Pedro for half a season.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Meddler on Jun 13, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And doesn't the season always end the same way?

Even in 2006, the Mets were exposed for their lack of depth in the playoffs when they were banking on El Duque to be the #1 starter, Guillermo Mota to be a key bullpen cog (oh Willie, why did you keep on trotting him out there for multiple inning stints) and a one-legged Cliff Floyd.

2007 and 2008 ended horrifically as pitching befell the team in both seasons and the lack of a capable everyday outfielder resulted in Nick Evans hitting 5th in the last game of last season and has plagues this year’s version.

I think Omar deserves a lot more credit for the 2006 success than you give him credit for, however. In addition to Valentin (3.1 WAR) and Maine (0.6 in ‘06, 2.7 in ’07), he got tremendous value out of Endy Chavez (2.5), El Duque (1.9), Chad Bradford (1.6), Duaner Sanchez (0.6) and Ramon Castro (0.5). That’s not even counting winning the previous offseason’s Voltron Sweepstakes (7.0 WAR), the trades with Florida for Delgado (2.9) and LoDuca (3.3) in the following season and signing Billy Wagner (2.0).

I really wish he’d get back to acquiring players like Chavez and Castro, because they were undervalued, youngish players who bolstered the depth of the club and could fill in admirably in long stretches. I hope those signings weren’t a mirage, because better GMs are finding F.A.T. like Werth, Pena, Branyan, Gross and Cantu, while Omar is working on the next Fernando Tatis.

by All Shook Down on Jun 14, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its true

Some of those moves he made in 2006 were really savvy. El Duque was kind of a longshot that paid off, but the arms and the Chavez and the Castro, all great pickups, guys with plenty of talent who just got undervalued. But outside of Delgado, I don’t think he realized just how well those pieces happened to fit together. Like, he knew Endy’s glove was good, but two win good? I’d be surprised if he realized defense alone could be worth so much. Other than that, he pretty much just took advantage of a Marlins fire sale, the likes of which had not been seen in quite some time.

Maybe I’m wrong, and I’m underselling him because I’m mad at him right now. Either way, it looks like he’ll have plenty of time to change our minds one way or the other

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Meddler on Jun 14, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm mad at him too

But I’m looking at this pragmatically. Dude has ridiculous job security and he’s a lot better than the other duds who had the job before him. And the idea of the Wilpons hunting for another GM is scary. Couldn’t you see them hiring Brian Sabean?

by All Shook Down on Jun 14, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they'd go after someone like Evelyn Ng I'd take it

But yeah, Sabean’s a really scary thought. I just wish the organization was willing to be a bit more cutting edge. They don’t even have to be experimental or anything, just willing to roll with the times. The days of prevalent scout-based front offices is probably in its twilight, and for all his legitimate strengths, Omar’s just starting to seem like a dinosaur.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Meddler on Jun 14, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only glimmer is

That the Wilpons seem to be floored by people that dazzle on interviews (Art Howe!). Say Ng or Depo get an interview and present some sabermetric slideshow and explain that this current team isn’t very far from being the top team in the National League, they might actually go for it.

by All Shook Down on Jun 14, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a great point

I just hope someone else wouldn’t be more convincing. Jerry’s interview supposedly was a doozey too.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Meddler on Jun 14, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's an opportunity here as well.

The Mets would really be at an advantage in the NL East if they altered front office ideology. Taking an analytical approach would help them leverage their enormous financial advantage over Florida and it would put them ahead of rival GMs Ruben Amaro (I only look at fielding percentage) and Frank Wren (I trade the best prospects in baseball for Tex and then sell low a year later; I <3 Frenchy).

by All Shook Down on Jun 15, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The best thing Omar's done

He’s protected the farm system. The best prospect he dealt away was Carlos Gomez, and with the presence of Voltron, Gomez’s complete inability to hit and receiving Santana in return, Mets fans can’t complain. We can quibble over Bell, Lindstrom (who’s not good) and Jesus Flores (dreadful decision), but he’s never panicked and flipped good prospects for one year rentals a la his predecessors.

by All Shook Down on Jun 14, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah that I definitely agree with

The farm has really come a long way, and even when he makes these trades, and the Mets farm gets vaulted down to the bottom rung, its always right back where you want it to be in short order. After the Santana trade, people thought the system was going to be a joke for years, but in less than a years time it was average again, and clearly improving, if still just a bit shallow. But to a degree, that’s what you expect from a big market team that’s willing to mortgage young cheap talent, especially one that restricts itself to the slotting system for whatever reason. And he’s always stuck to his guns about the “untradeables”

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Meddler on Jun 14, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

psyche?

I will not allow the denigration of the life essence

by GenJackRipper on Jun 13, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

who? manny d?

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Jun 13, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like a plan

Manny D seems to be a real hit with the media.

"What position do you play?"
"I bat third."

by Preach19 on Jun 14, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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