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Sam, I think you’ll appreciate this.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 13, 2009 12:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

that might actually make this loss worthwhile

by Endys Game on Jun 13, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Haha, I wonder if he'll actually burn all of his Mets related items.

I can just imagine someone sobbing in their living room, throwing piles upon piles of Mets memorabilia into a fire while screaming, “You killed my dream, Luis!!! You killed my dream!!!”

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 13, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, that'd be pretty funny

I mean, if Glavine’s meltdown in the 2007 finale didn’t make him burn his stuff, how could a loss in a June game against a non-division rival make him snap?

I mean, this was a bad loss, but there have been WAY WORSE in recent years.

Somehow, a chain of events unfolded that put Steve Phillips in a professional broadcast booth Sunday night so he could rip Carlos Beltran. Try to explain that in any other terms.

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 13, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Totally agree. Like when Wes Helms went yard last year about 2 seconds after Ryan Braun

It goes with being a sports fan. If it doesn’t bring you joy, don’t watch. I’m so tired of the “woe is me” bullshit. Take a few days off from being a fan if it’s not working for you.

by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 13, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was throwing out all my Mets stuff after the “Glavine game”. She then said, “So after you throw out all that stuff what are you going to do?” I sighed and said, “Probably go out and buy all new stuff.”

Needless to say I didn’t thow anything out but such is the life of a Met (sports?) fan.

by blains2000 on Jun 13, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

beautiful

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Jun 13, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We sure are losing a lot of people to the Yankees lately.

Don’t these guys care if they go to heaven or not? I’d rather re-live the those 10 seconds after Slappy dropped the ball over and over and over again for the rest of my life than be a Yankees fan.

My back-up is the Blue Jays for the day that I finally lose it and have a Mets Nervous Breakdown. At least I can still root against those bastards.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jun 13, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs

Depending on where I move to in two years, that place's team will be my backup.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 13, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes

And other than Devon and his….issues, I don’t think we’re losing anyone. As Mets fans, we’re used to this kind of get-kicked-in-the-balls kind of thing.

My backup is the Rays. They have the front office that I can always dream of having on the Mets. Plus, shattering the Yankees-Red Sox AL East stranglehold last year was sweet.

Somehow, a chain of events unfolded that put Steve Phillips in a professional broadcast booth Sunday night so he could rip Carlos Beltran. Try to explain that in any other terms.

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 13, 2009 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

my back up

is the red sox.just because they piss of the yanks and they don’t ever seem to piss me off

by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 13, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes.

I’d rather re-live the those 10 seconds after Slappy dropped the ball over and over and over again for the rest of my life than be a Yankees fan.

Recommended.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Jun 13, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rec'd

My backup is the Red Sox.

"What position do you play?"
"I bat third."

by Preach19 on Jun 13, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's hilarious

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 13, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Brian Stokes on acid

Was still a better choice than Switzer. I wonder if Jerry had even found time to watch Switzer throw between shining his pimp chalice and defogging his Buddy Holly emo glasses.

Oil Spill had better be in the ninth inning of every game the Mets lead in for the rest of the season. Also, Frankie should get to give Castillo an atomic wedgie everyday during warmups. Or maybe do something teabag related, if that’s his thing. Luis Castillo deserves to have the complete and utter humiliation he must have felt today be with him for every waking moment of the rest of his life.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Meddler on Jun 13, 2009 12:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Good idea

Castillo should have to wear the Hello Kitty backpack while the whole roster takes turns teabagging his forehead. Then we can call it even.

by Zwill on Jun 13, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks, Sam, for trying.

I just need to not think about this game for a while.

by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Jun 13, 2009 12:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

two hours later and I am still speechless

I am in stunned disbelief, the way the Red Sox were in 1986. I may be the only one but I actually feel bad for Castillo. At the same time, he may be cut. Like Doug O’Brien missing two FG’s against the Steelers, some gaffes are just too awful to ever live down in New York. I am not saying its rational but I wouldn’t be shocked if Castillo is gone.

by Endys Game on Jun 13, 2009 12:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I would.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 13, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Hey, old man, down here.

FIRE YOUR MANAGER! That’s about the only thing that would cheer me up right now.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jun 13, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

also as someone pointed out in the thread

How the fuck do the Yankees get away with dog piling A-Rod the way they did? Awful.

by Endys Game on Jun 13, 2009 12:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I would have much preferred if they ran out to short right and dog piled Slappy.

That would have been far more appropriate.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jun 13, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe that would have had a good....ahem...result for the Mets

He sucks.

by metsman07 on Jun 13, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fast forward to :46; no one needs to watch the rest again.

http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=5020833&c_id=nym

I wonder where we get our laisse fair attitude from. At least Sandy said “oh shit”.

Jerry…nothing….

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jun 13, 2009 1:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

and pick 'Yanks win in unusual walk-off'.

Sorry, bad link.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jun 13, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We Feel Your Pain

http://www.casualhoya.com/2009/6/13/908138/new-york-mets-fans-we-feel-your

Casually.

by CasualHoya on Jun 13, 2009 10:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

ugh

it’s been a day and i’am still pissed off

by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 13, 2009 10:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

OK

After a good night’s sleep and a spot of brekkie I’m feeling a little less mortified about last night’s game. Not sure I’ve ever seen a play like that to lose a game, and I damn sure know that all the Yankee fans at work will be waiting to see me on Monday morning, but it’s baseball, I’m not gonna burn all my Mets paraphernalia (heh heh that post cracks me up) and it’s not the end of the world. That said, I’m gonna get the hell outside today because it’s gonna push 75 and sunny in upstate NY, and I’m probably not gonna see today’s game. If nothing else, it will spare me from Buck, McCarver and 8000 replays of Luis’s missed catch, plus probably a montage of hilarious Mets cock-ups from over the years.

I will also spend today being grateful that tomorrow’s game is not the Sunday night game on ESPN.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 13, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

P.S.

according to Matt Cerrone, it’s not really Luis’s fault that the Mets lost:

That said, Francisco Rodriguez didn’t have to let Derek Jeter grind out that hit, and he didn’t have to throw three straight balls to Mark Teixeira… and, how many runners did the Mets leave on base, and how many runs did their pitching allow? No one game ever comes down to one single player, no matter how you slice it.

While this is true in the greater sense of things, I have to disagree and say, yes, Luis Castillo lost the game last night.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 13, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

every other

player catches that ball.cerrone is a retard

by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 13, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

is Cerrone smart enough to know that Frankie was basically pitching around Teixeria?

he wasn’t going to let Tex beat him. He went after A-Rod because he is slumping. And of course A-Rod didn’t beat him. Castillo did. And I would like to beat Cerrone.

by Endys Game on Jun 13, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess

the Jeter hit made it a little closer, but when a tee-baller has just as good of a chance to catch the ball, yes, Castillo lost the game.

"What position do you play?"
"I bat third."

by Preach19 on Jun 13, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why let Tex beat you from the left side?

It made perfect sense for Frank to pitch around him….and he stil basically had a place to put A-Rod as well…it was the total right decision.

That is just moronic to say that Frank was just as responsible

by metsman07 on Jun 13, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

god forbid

our closer gave up a base hit to a future HOFer.

oh wait, didn’t he then get one of the greatest players of all time to then pop out on a 3-1 fastball in a crazy pressure situation?

k-rod is 16-16 in my eyes.

Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...

by MetsGeek on Jun 13, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

scratch that

saves are stupid anyway

Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...

by MetsGeek on Jun 13, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and it's not even that he gave up a hit to Jeter

he “let” Jeter get that hit.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 13, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

wrong

he let Jeter grind out that hit

by cjmulrain on Jun 13, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha

i was trying to ignore that he even used that phrasing.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 13, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Castillo is a reason we lose a lot of games

Not just this one.

That’s how I’m coping with this.

by All Shook Down on Jun 13, 2009 11:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Thinking there would be some crazy update on Castillo's wiki page

I stumbled upon this nugget from his personal life:

Castillo graduated from the class of 1991 at Colegio San Benito Abad in the Dominican Republic. He is married and has one child, Luis Jr., born on October 12, 2001. In his spare time Castillo enjoys playing dominoes.

Dominoes. How ironic.

"What position do you play?"
"I bat third."

by Preach19 on Jun 13, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Ironic is that he is from Abad because he is a Abad 2nd baseman

It’s funny how one horrible play can just ruin your mood. Had we won that, we’d be laughing off the schellacking today and would have taken 2 of 3 from the Yankers.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jun 14, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs