With all their question marks in the outfield, they need someone who can give Jerry Manuel more...

With all their question marks in the outfield, they need someone who can give Jerry Manuel more lineup flexibility. The perfect player for the Mets is Bergen Catholic product Mark DeRosa, whom the Cleveland Indians will begin shopping any day, if they haven't already. DeRosa, who can play first, second, third and the corner outfield positions, is a manager's dream (especially in these injury-plagued circumstances) and the kind of a player the Mets would want to re-sign for next year.

No matter what, Minaya is probably going to have to sacrifice a couple of second-tier prospects, like last year's No. 1 draft pick, power-hitting shortstop Reese Havens or righthander Jenry Mejia, both at Single-A St. Lucie, but it's something he has to do. The alternative is to raise the white flag to a fan base that was counting on games beyond September that they didn't get at Shea the last two years.

Hopefully Minaya doesn't read the Daily News.

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Mejia or Havens plus someone else for 2 months of DeRosa?

I don’t know about that. Sorry for botching the FanShot as well, it’s my first one.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jun 14, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions

Good catch

Do you have a link? This is a truly dreadful idea. And I’m not sure exactly what he means by “second-tier” prospect, considering he calls Havens a “power-hitting SS” who was drafted in the first round last year. A power hitter at a premium position taken in the first round is almost by definition a “top-tier” prospect.

by Zwill on Jun 14, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions

And people wonder

why the newspaper business is dying quicker then Leonardo got merked in the Departed….

Who wrote the gem? Bill Madden? Adam Rubin? I can’t believe people actually get paid to write this garbage. Mejia for Derosa is like Kazmir v2.

"It's like the old phrase goes.....The balls in your court now Mr.Church, so you take that ball, you dribble it up the court and....................................... get a layup"
- Keith Hernandez

by nrmax88 on Jun 14, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Well

The fact that we’re able to read it online for free probably is more relevant than the quality of the writing, seeing as we are still reading/discussing the article. But yeah, point taken, Madden’s been a hack for ages.

by Zwill on Jun 14, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions

You should put a spoiler alert on that

Y’know, just in case people haven’t seen it. I have.

by deadspy3 on Jun 15, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Still?

Dude, it’s been more than 2 years. At this point, no spoiler alert’s necessary.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jun 15, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Bruce Willis is really dead in 6th Sense.

Soylent Green is people.

Jigsaw is on the floor and he’s not dead.

Ed Norton is Tyler Durden.

Verbal Kint is Keyser Soze.

DiCaprio also dies in Titanic, Blood Diamond, and the underrated “The Quick and the Dead”.

by James Kannengieser on Jun 15, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Nice Quick and the Dead drop

Russell Crowe and Leo DiCaprio before they were ~~superstars~~ douchebags. Well, I guess Leo’s re-earned some respectability with The Departed.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 15, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Did anyone catch the movie these two put out last year?

Body of Lies. It was so incredibly stupid that I was laughing out loud in the movie theater at the canned dialogue.

by Zwill on Jun 15, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Scratch that

I only saw it a month ago on DVD so it’s my bad. Still, if you didn’t know the ending, it was pretty shocking.

by deadspy3 on Jun 16, 2009 5:15 AM EDT up reply actions

Good find

Also, I edited the post a little to include the link. You can edit posts after you make them as well.

by James Kannengieser on Jun 14, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Thanks, I butchered it pretty good :-)

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jun 14, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions

"The alternative is to raise the white flag to a fan base that was counting on games beyond September that they didn't get at Shea the last two years."

If those are the only two choices we have, I will gladly sacrifice this season. With a smile on my face. If the alternative is trading Mejia or Havens for a glorified utility man.

"It's like the old phrase goes.....The balls in your court now Mr.Church, so you take that ball, you dribble it up the court and....................................... get a layup"
- Keith Hernandez

by nrmax88 on Jun 14, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions

Ehh...

Now I am being an asshole towards Derosa because some dickweed thinks we should trade way too much for him. He is a nice hitter, but mehh… he plays below average defense almost everywhere, and his bat doesn’t even really play in LF, the main place he would probably be used.

"It's like the old phrase goes.....The balls in your court now Mr.Church, so you take that ball, you dribble it up the court and....................................... get a layup"
- Keith Hernandez

by nrmax88 on Jun 14, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah serious

How are these guys second tier prospects?

There’s a fine line between this description of a “managers dream” and a “tweener”. Dero’s okay, but he’s kind of a butcher at the real defensive positions, and he doesn’t really hit enough for a corner outfielder, where he actually has a good glove. He’s a pretty terrible infielder according to UZR. I wouldn’t mind having him, but I would mind not having Mejia and Holt in the system a great deal more.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 14, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions

The "manager's dream" term

is probably on point, so long as the manager in question is Jerry Manuel.

by Zwill on Jun 14, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Ha, touche

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 14, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Link?

I’d really like to rip this article apart if it’s real.

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Jun 14, 2009 6:32 PM EDT reply actions

Found it for ya Sam

It was our old friend and Yankee Homer Bill Madden. Link.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 14, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions

i'am not giving up mejia

but if i could get dunn for guys like ike davis and zach lutz i will gladly take dunn

by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 14, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions

Ugh no. I would NOT do that trade.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 14, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions

I just want to know when 2 of our top 5 (or so) prospects became "Second tier".

This guy obviously did extensive research for this article.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jun 15, 2009 12:55 AM EDT reply actions

"Oh, I'm an idiot, the Mets had a bad farm system a couple years ago."

Thusly, all prospects are now second tier, right? Except F!, but unless he’s producing at the MLB level now, he’s a failure, right?

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 15, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions

Writers lose all credibility when they don't do their research...

Last I checked, Mejia has made two starts in Binghamton the double A affiliate, yet Madden says hes still in single A. This is a guy, proposing a ridiculous trade, getting paid to write the article, and he can’t do a quick search at milb.com to check his facts? It may not seem like a big deal, but this is the man’s profession and like so many people who cover sports he half assed it. People talk about the legitimacy of blogs but shit like that gets by in a newspaper? Sure most blogs are shitty, but sites like this one or Metsgeek, provide much better analysis of players/games, suggestions for front office moves, and understanding of the minor leagues and guys like Eric or Sam—I assume—are doing this in their spare time while Bill Madden and his ilk write inferior articles for a living.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Jun 15, 2009 3:12 AM EDT reply actions

How about the fact that Havens wasn't even the Mets #1 draft pick?

And would it be nitpicking to correct him on the fact that St. Lucie’s Advanced-A and not Single-A? This article really is a joke. Someone should ask Bill Madden how he’d feel if the Yankees traded Betances, McAllister, and Brackman for like, Jose Valverde to set up Mo or something. Who knows, maybe he’d go for it. Hoo-ray for overpaying for mediocre rental acquisitions!

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 15, 2009 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions