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Yesterday was an awfully quiet day in the MLB news front. But, never fear, the internets is a vast, wonderful place with all sorts of crazy talk. It's always sad, however, when the biggest news and stories are coming from the Washington Nationals.

Star-divide

Meet the Mets

Kevin Kernan writes a rambling, panicky column about the Mets needing to make a trade. Not that he's wrong, but the analysis and trade ideas are equivalent to a WFAN call in.

Former Met pitching coach Rick Peterson has heard rumors that Johan Santana's knee is still bothering him. Take that to the bank.

Why on earth did the Astros give up on an arm like Fernando Nieve's? He's a whiner, apparently.

Metsradamus gives a great recap of the remainder of the 2009 Met season. Think it can't get worse? Just wait.

Greg at Faith and Fear in Flushing takes a historical tour of New York baseball.

TMZ camera mugs Mike Piazza and his wife. Classy.

Ted Berg writes one of the best opening paragraphs I've ever read.

Yesterday was quite a notorious day in Met history. Tom Seaver and Keith Hernandez trades.

Around the NL East

Chase Utley is an old-school player.

The Nationals had some interesting stories yesterday. Jon Heyman speculates that the Bobby Valentine could be the choice to replace Manny Acta. Washington Post columnist John Feinstein doesn't blame Acta.

Washington Times columnist Thom Loverro just lays into Rob Dibble. It's fantastic. I'm waiting for the Bob Carpenter hit piece now.

The Nationals also signed left handed pitcher Horacio Ramirez to a minor league deal.

Around MLB

USA Today has a great piece on the Rays' blind radio announcer, Enrique Oliu.

Happy 35th birthday to the San Diego Chicken.

Torii Hunter shows some hard core grission, crashing into the wall and injuring himself.

Prince Fielder hit his first career grand slam as the Brewers beat the Indians 14-12.

The New York Times looks at Yankee prospect Pat Venditte a.k.a. the Switch-Pitcher. I really wish that the Yankees would promote this guy. It's not like there haven't been junk balling pitchers in the majors before. 

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Dibbs

I watched a couple Nats games on NASN last week with Dibble announcing. It was brilliant. Not because Dibble is a smart or well-spoken announcer, but because he is flat out entertaining. The stuff he says is so ridiculous you can’t take him seriously. If I was a full-time Nats fan I’d probably feel differently though.

by James Kannengieser on Jun 16, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

berg is right (again)

wipeout is awesome. it could obviously be better (its family oriented and the hosts misfire as often as they score) but its pretty often hilarious. if i could make any kind of show i want you can count it being about two thirds and possibly four fifths nothing but fat people falling down. i think the remainder would involve food spilling or somethin similar.

Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.

by kendynamo on Jun 16, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed on Wipeout

Berg’s final line is also solid:

Also: If the Mets trade for Jeff Francoeur, I’m out. I’ll find someone else to write this column.

by James Kannengieser on Jun 16, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd watch that show

My only gripe with wipeout is that it ’s kind of a ripoff of Japanese variety shows; however, the tounge-in-cheek level is definitly spot on instead of the take itself seriously “Hole in a Wall” that completely missed the feel of the shows it was trying to copy.

by Sokojoe on Jun 16, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

hole in the wall is abysmal

a total waste. i dont see how there arent more “fun” game shows like this as apposed to the now beat to death and never that sweet ‘reality’ game shows like survivor. friggin ninja warrior is like the best show ever, how much can that cost to make? and its perfect half rediculous people falling, half awesome athletes pwning obstacles. but im sure if a US netowrk ever did theyd completely ruin it like they did with the american gladiators remake. WHY AM I NOT IN CHARGE OF ALL TV I WOULD BE THE BEST PROGRAMMER EVER.

Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.

by kendynamo on Jun 16, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah seriously

when I read that piece yesterday, it prompted me to spend 3 straight hours watching highlights of the show. Awesome.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 16, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Good ol’ “Ice” Berg scores again.

by deadspy3 on Jun 16, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Utley

I made this point over on The Good Phight, but I wish the discussion of Chase Utley could just remain focused on how awesome he is at playing baseball without getting sidetracked into Gritty McHustleface pronouncements that should be reserved for undertalented guys who “play the right way” (otherwise known as “players who are nice to sportswriters”).

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jun 16, 2009 10:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great player, fluff article

The playing “Old School” argument is so boring; Chase Utley is willing to sacrifice is body to get on base, old school, not like today’s pansies.

Highest NL Single Season HBP by decade
20’s – 13 (Cuyler)
30’s – 15 (Goodman)
40’s – 11 (Reiser)
50’s – 20 (Hemus/Robinson)
60’s – 25 (Former Met Ron Hunt)
70’s – 50 (Hunt – The man had a gift, he is an extreme outlier)
80’s – 16 (Bradley)
90’s – 34 (Biggio)
00’s – 30 (Wilson)

Also, pitchers don’t throw inside anymore.
Really, the part the was more surprising from the article was this quote, (emphasis mine)

But Mets third baseman David Wright has similar VORP numbers, plays in a bigger market, is an American player like Utley – a white American player like Utley, for that matter – and Utley still has more than 1 million more votes than Wright.
Fuck the heck. Is he saying that race isn’t an issue by making race an issue?

by Sokojoe on Jun 16, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention

Utley and Wright aren’t facing off against each other because they play different positions.

Wright’s competition:
Chipper Jones
Ryan Zimmerman
Aramis Ramirez

Utley’s competition:
Orlando Hudson
Skip Schumaker
Brandon Phillips

(I’m excluding the ballot stuffed Brewers)

Hudson and Phillips are fine players but aren’t exactly household names to the casual fan.

by James Kannengieser on Jun 16, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly, comparing different positions is stupid

i guess then when piazza was running away with the total vote count because there were zero comp at C everyone was they were really voting for the idealized notion of yesterday, when all good players were accused closeted gays with bacne, goatees and pert plus shiney hair.

Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.

by kendynamo on Jun 16, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Schumaker :(

St. Louis relievers... defying win expectancy since 2008
http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/

by vivaelpujols on Jun 18, 2009 6:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow that is a pretty shitty piece:
When they vote for Utley, people are really voting for this idealized notion of yesterday, of what they think the game used to be.

Good lord. I’m glad he had time to poll all of the two million and change who have voted for Utley.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 16, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no...

They’re voting for the fact that he’s just titty-slapping awesome at being a baseball player, and he’s head-and-shoulders above everyone else at the position.

If Joe Morgan 1975 were playing today, would that make Utley less of a “like they used to be” dude since he’d be getting fewer votes?

It should be really easy to write about Chase Utley without reverting to horrible White Boy Bonus Points cliches, but there you go.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jun 16, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

but I guess sportswriters must need to phone in a column every two or three days. Hell, it’s probably a standard clause in their contracts.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 16, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

which is why

I just threw 25 votes Joe McEwing’s way.

by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 16, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love Utley.

He’s the one Philly player I really, really like and pine for him to be on the Mets.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 16, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I feel this way about Carlos Beltran; the fact that he’s so underappreciated in general makes it easier for me to admit it.

I actually WOULD rather have Beltran than Nate McClouth!

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jun 16, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But McClouth was an all-star

plus he’s the outfield version of Eckstein.

by mets81 on Jun 16, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I completely agree.

As a player Utley is spectacular and it’s is a travesty that he doesn’t have an MVP and Howard and Rollins do. He has been, without a doubt, the best player on that team the past four, five years.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Jun 16, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, quick question...

How do you feel about the fact that Rollins is leading the NL shortstops in All-Star voting? On the one hand, as a Philly fan, I’m sure you like the fact that Rollins, who’s consistently been one of the best shortstops in baseball for the past couple years, is getting recognition. On the other hand, though, I’m sure as an overall baseball fan, you feel he doesn’t deserve it this year, as opposed to guys like Hanley Ramirez or Ryan Theriot who deserve it much more.
I guess the real answer is probably that who really cares? It’s the All-Star game, and that lost credibility years ago.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 16, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm embarrassed.

I think the All-Star selection process should represent something of a balance between in-season performance, career achievement, and fame (for lack of a better word), but when you’ve been as putrid as Rollins has been this season, you shouldn’t be anywhere near any kind of All-Star team… it cancels the other two factors out.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jun 16, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I think it reflects badly on the other Phillies

because guys like Raul Ibanez and Utley, who DO deserve it, are getting votes from bandwagoners and casual fans that see “Oh, World Champion Phillies” and fill out the entire NL ballot with Phillies. And that’s unfair. But again, there are guys on the Phillies that absolutely deserve to not only make the team, but start. Just not Rollins, at all.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 16, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh boy

 - Dibble. What an ass. I wish FJM had ever gotten around to doing a thorough thrashing of that guy. But this one will certainly suffice, I guess: Dibs

 - I thought Piazza handled those TMZ nerds really well. They are classless; he is the man.

batting helmets. batting titles. obp.

by Durelo on Jun 16, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love and miss Piazza

and I guarantee you he could still out-OPS Santos & Schneider. I’d take him back…

by cjmulrain on Jun 16, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I have to listen to these clowns all the time

It’s unfathomable to me that the quality of the Nats’ broadcasts could have gotten worse after Sutton left, but somehow they managed to hit a new low. Carpenter is a model of objectivity in comparison to Dibble. You should have heard those two whine for an entire inning during the Randy Johnson 300th win game because of a called strike three in the 8th that was admittedly pretty borderline.

The funny thing is that the Nats broadcast booth must inspire ineptitude, because Darling was awful when he was here in 2005, but magically became one of the better analysts in the game when he moved to SNY. Seriously, it was like night and day.

by dcmetsfan on Jun 16, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Darling

when he talks about pitching.

by TheBigStapler on Jun 16, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lots of wonderful personnel suggestions in the Kiernan article.

.Not…Lets pay Havens, Parnell, Niese and $18.5 million a year for a guy who can’t play right field and is going to collapse in to himself like a neutron star once he gets a load of New York’s finest eateries. I’ve read some flat out retarded articles lately about what Omar should be doing

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jun 16, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously, that article was of the quality of one of the posts in our FanPost section

You know, the ones written by newcomers who then never log on again.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 16, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Metstradamus article is hilarious

But it would probably be even funnier if I knew that most of those scenarios wouldn’t happen this year.

Really, Jerry?

by Prince on Jun 16, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Couple thoughts...

The article about the Rays’ blind radio broadcaster is phenomenal. Highly recommended for anyone who didn’t read it yet.

The Kevin Kernan piece in the Post is as stupid as stupid gets.

Fix the Mets, Omar, quickly. Make a deal — any deal.
Yes, that’s the right idea. Just do something for the sake of being able to say you did something. Who cares if it’s actually a good move?

And from the same article:

“At least it’s not the swine flu,” [Minaya] said yesterday. “I was tested and everything’s fine, just the regular flu.”
And so Omar Minaya joins the hordes of morons who don’t understand that swine flu is no more dangerous than plain ordinary flu.

Only Ted Berg could write a paragraph that uses both the word “apotheosis” and the ratio of projectiles-to-the-crotch per minute.

by JoshNY on Jun 16, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually

Regular Flu is more dangerous than swine flu, higher mortality rate.

by Delgado on Jun 16, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd love to hear someone say

“yeah, don’t worry, ok, it’s only swine flu”

by deadspy3 on Jun 16, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Christina Kahrl's NL East transaction analysis

Went pretty in depth today, and made some awesome points in stark contrast to the “panic trade” mentality. Its a pay article, so I won’t post the whole thing, but here are a few nice little snippets:

Stats Status
Offense: .282 Equivalent Average (1st), 4.9 Equivalent Baserunning Runs (5th)
Defense: .506 Starters’ Support-Neutral Winning Percentage (17th), 4.33 Relievers’ Fair Runs Allowed (10th), -2.45 Park-Adjusted Defensive Efficiency (27th)

In talking about a lineup that is presently the league’s and the majors’ best, it’s not offense that has put the Mets in second place, however many tantrums Steve Phillips wants to throw on the subject of Carlos Beltran, and however much sports-radio shrieking there is on the subject of David Wright’s failure to cure cancer or single-handedly power the Eastern Seaboard’s energy needs. Trading for a first baseman of note isn’t really that necessary

Not sure if I agree that the Mets have the majors best offense, but apparently BP thinks they have been using EqA, which is kind of like their version of wOBA, except its weighted for batting average figures instead of OBA figures (just a technicality, its their primary playing time independent offensive metric).

Unfortunately, there’s the larger issue of upside, and whether or not this team has a legitimate third starter, let alone a number two. What the team really needs is for Perez and Maine to be the talents the Mets thought they’d invested in

Believe me, I left a lot out, it was a long analysis, lol.

Link for subscribers.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Meddler on Jun 16, 2009 6:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seems like she glossed over the main issue here

Namely, the shoddy defense the team has played. 27th of 30 is atrocious.

Also, I’m instinctively skeptical of her claim that the Mets have run out the best lineup in the league this season. I realize the data says it’s so but, no, I just cannot believe that. We’re not talking about the ideal we envisioned before the season; we’re talking about the injury-filled bouillabaisse we’ve whined about for the last two months. I’m sorry, there’s just no way.

by Zwill on Jun 17, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah its true

But some of her points are relevant and refreshing, considering the media tension regarding the team. She definitely glossed over the shoddy defense, I think a lot of people have, since we’ve all been assuming its bound to get better and it just hasn’t, especially, at least it seems, in the outfield, where Carlos Beltran and Ryan Church haven’t seemed to be nearly the pluses we expected them to be.

As for the offense, I think the point is relevant insofar as it means the Mets offense really isn’t the biggest issue, or at least the one that most demands correction. Run prevention is a far larger issue for this team. Trading for a first baseman would be a Mama’s of Corona style panic move, and its hard to imagine any match where the Mets get a fair return, unless the asking price for Nick Johnson or Aubrey Huff is minimal. The injuries are clearly a monster problem, as are the middling production for the secondary regulars, but for the most part, Jerry really has had 13 pretty decent options to mix and match his offense with even through the injuries, he just hasn’t done a great job of said mixing and matching.

She also had some nice things to say about Fernando Nieve, which I’m semi-willing to buy into. And she’s a Jerry hater, which gives her automatic bonus points in my book

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Meddler on Jun 17, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, re: defense

Part of the problem here is what’s the fix? Do you let Oil Spill play in place of Castillo more? The defensive issues seem to be stemming from guys like Wright, Beltran, Sheffield, and Castillo, the first three of whom are essentially the whole reason the Mets have something resembling a good offense. And even if they finally bite the bullet on Castillo’s contract, which seems unlikely, who do they replace him with that really helps?

The only obvious short-term defensive patch the Mets might actually kind of have if you squint is to hope F! starts hitting and can play LF every day. His 1.2 UZR in LF is stunningly good for just eight games, and it gels with the scouting report that he’d make a fringey CF but very good corner guy defensively.

Otherwise, you just have to hope that Beltran’s knee stops barking and Wright gets back to his former above average if unspectacular defensive self and Church gets a few more chances to flash his cannon. Reyes returning should help too, as Cora hasn’t been particulary good at SS, but he’s been fine at 2B, and you can bet he’ll see some time there after Reyes comes back.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Meddler on Jun 17, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's basically it

You’re last paragraph sums up our only hope for a better defense. Reyes needs to return within a month and be his old self. That allows Cora to spell Castillo, perhaps as much as 35-40% of the time at 2B and primarily vs RHPs. Delgado’s return is likely a wash defensively compared to Tatis/Murphy. Those changes should give us at least an average defensive IF, if not top 10.

I can’t even speculate about the OF b/c who knows who’ll be manning the corner spots. Prob some combination of Church/Martinez/Sheffield w/a bit of Reed/Tatis sprinkled in there. The best unit is definitely Fart/Volt/Iglesia but I don’t expect to see that group very frequently.

by Zwill on Jun 17, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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