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I would say it's slightly better than typical Metsblog chatter, but not much better.  As it's essentially Reyes for 2 average players of the type that are easily obtainable without sacrificing superstars and two prospects, one of which is a Niese-type that isn't particularly difficult to find, you're essentially betting Reyes on Bucholtz, and that's far too steep a bet for one prospect, regardless of how strong he is.  What surprises me is that no one considered the more reasonable option: redo the deal with Beltran instead of Reyes and Anderson instead of Bowden.

Beltran is a bona-fide superstar signed for 2 more years at a contract that, while certainly not cheap, is not outrageous.  As he is not home-grown, much older than Reyes, and had expressed a desire to play for the Yankees, there is little reason to consider him an essential component of the team's identity as is Reyes, whose phenomenal growth Met-fans watched lovingly for years (before many turned on him and Wright for the most retarded reasons imaginable like the piss-ant fairweather friends we all know several Met-fans to be).  He is a huge upgrade over Ellsbury and would lock the Sox up as a favorite in the division--and give them a good shot at humiliating the Yanks in 14 straight games.  Plus, the New York media would overlook the fact that the trade almost punts 2009, since they are stupid enough to think that Ellsbury's whiteness and grission compensate for Beltran's unbelievable awesomeness.  ("WHooOOOo's kidding whOOOoooOOOoo?  Of coa's Ellsbury's bedda' than Beltran!!")

Beltran for Lars, Bucholz, and Elsbury is a deal.  Easily leveraged around Murphy and certain other lower-level Red-Sox prospects.

Ironically, though the Yanks and Mets don't do deals, their needs and resources seem to compliment each other.  Every word I said about the above trade could be said regarding Beltran for Austin Jackson, Phil Hughes, and Melky.  ("WHooOOOo's kidding whOOOoooOOOoo?  Of coa's Melky's bedda' than Beltran!!  He's got like 10 clutch hoemuhs")


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Trading Beltran

would be stupid.

I don’t know if you saw the fanshot about the Reyes deal, but there was a pretty lively discussion about what kind of package everyone though Reyes was worth. Although if the Mets are trading anyone w/ the Red Sox, they have to get Anderson, becuase 1B is a position w/ very little legitimate organizational depth and that locks the position in a young, cheap player.

by mets81 on Jun 18, 2009 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

This

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 18, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not trading Voltron.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 18, 2009 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

If we trade them Beltran

we get Youkilis in return, plus probably Bucholtz. No discussion about anything else.

by cjmulrain on Jun 18, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions  

what?

Youkilis is almost as good as Beltran and is signed to a long term deal. Buckholz is a 5 star prospect who has already had success in the majors. Beltran is not that good to get those two players. I don’t think anyone is.

St. Louis relievers... defying win expectancy since 2008
http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/

by vivaelpujols on Jun 18, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

No...

Beltran’s been worth 7.6 wins above replacement more than Youkilis over the past 3 years alone. Youk is an All-Star player. Beltran is a perrenial MVP caliber player. Plus, Beltran plays a premier defensive position. Youk plays the corners.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 18, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I know, I was just re-emphasizing it.

And if I was the Red Sox, hell yeah I keep Youk. They need him more than Beltran, since they have Ellsbury. But all things being equal…

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 19, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trade Value

I agree Voltron is the better player, but Youkilis has more trade value — he’s signed longer and for cheaper. If we could deal Beltran for Youk straight-up, it would be a no-brainer.

by T Pac on Jun 19, 2009 4:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

A no brainer? I disagree with that.

Because we have Delgado and Wright, and don’t have a DH. So I’d say I’d still take Beltran.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 19, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I completely disagree

You have to remember Beltran is a center fielder, and a damn good one at that. Who are you going to stick out there? There’s maybe three other CF in baseball that are of Beltran’s skill ability and overall worth.
Plus squids right, we have corner’s we don’t need another one.

"I told him the next time he does that, I’m going to get my blade out and cut him, right on the field. Hey, I’m a gangsta now. You go gangsta on me, I’m gonna have to get you now."
- Jerry Manuel

by dave the rave on Jun 22, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

which is why this trade is never happening

Youk is cost controlled, but Beltran has slightly more value. I’d give them Beltran + Niese (or even a higher ceiling but further away arm like Mejia) for Youk + Buchholz (how the hell do you actually spell his name, I’ve seen it like 5 different ways), but I wouldn’t trade Beltran for just the prospect packages.

by cjmulrain on Jun 19, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Buchholz' name

You got it, the rare double-“h”

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 19, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Beltran for Austin Jackson, Phil Hughes, and Melky"

gross

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Jun 18, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

God I hate Melky, and A-Jax is one of the more overrated “tools” guys in the minors. His ceiling seems to be Ellsburyesque, he’s not a star prospect though. And I really kinda hope some dumb Yankee fan trolls over here to talk about his .875 OPS, cause there’s a buttload of BABIP that Jackson shouldn’t have (he’s at .476, and .458 against righties and an absurd .541 against lefties!)

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 18, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fortunately, there is a No-trade in place for Volton, keeping Minaya from doing something completely retarded

But I’m sure he’d waive it to go to the Yankees or Sox.. It’s times like these that you wish you had one ounce of faith in your Front Office.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jun 18, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Lord, I didn't think this would have that much of a reaction

I saw the lively discussion as to what it would take to trade Reyes. I don’t understand why Beltran can’t be in the discussion also. I say because of the age issue, Voltran is LESS valuable than Reyes and should cost LESS in trade.

If you don’t like AJax, fine. Beltran for AJax, Hughes, Melky and Montero?

Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa

by GenJackRipper on Jun 18, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd love to have Montero

And for the Yankees, Beltran could be in the discussion, don’t see it for the Sawx though. He’s tougher to move, he makes more money and his contract is bigger. I doubt for a eight figure salary, no matter how awesome Beltran is, a team would be willing to give up a prospect like Montero. The Yankees might be the only organization that would consider it, but I still think its a reach and the dialogue would stall pretty quickly, even if both parties were interested.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 18, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about we just don't trade the core, ok?

Let’s just let this all die.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 18, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

what he said.

"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran

by EMSfan9 on Jun 18, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the sentiment is

that if we can’t compliment these great players, maybe we need to trade one of them to fill all the other holes on the roster. Ideally, we could do both, but it’s not a crazy idea.

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Jun 19, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the idea behind getting near ready prospects

Is just that, maybe you can do both. Ellsbury is the complimentary player, Buchholz is a pretty good bet to be a star, Anderson’s not a bad bet either, plus you’d have an extra $9 mil to spend an a very high quality farm system to deal from. In the other thread, I hypothesized trading for a guy like Joe Mauer and using the extra money to lock him up. Its really not a completely unrealistic idea, especially if you’re stealing away the Sox best prospects for Reyes, that takes them away as players for Mauer.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 19, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

They traded Johan

Mortgaging one year of proven talent for many years of risky talent is a forte of a team like the Twins. I thought everyone was assuming that the Red Sox were going to go all in for Mauer this offseason? The only player who might make them think twice: Jose Reyes.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 20, 2009 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mauer has been simply amazing this year

He’s even been better than Pujols :). He also just signed a team friendly 4 year deal. Of course, Reyes has an even better contract and is almost as good of player going forward as Mauer (with probably less of an injury risk), so it would be a pretty even trade. Then again, I’m sure Mauer is beloved in Twinkie town, and trading him wouldn’t be a good PR move.

St. Louis relievers... defying win expectancy since 2008
http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/

by vivaelpujols on Jun 20, 2009 4:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

But Mauer’s extension only runs through 2010, he has one more year after this one, and its a $12.5 million year. Obviously, a great value for Mauer, but still a pretty penny for a small market team, and after 2010, assuming he stays healthy, his market value is going to be ridiculous. Just like Johan.

By contrast, Reyes will be $9 million in 2010 and has an $11 million option for 2011. Two years at a lower AAV means at least twice the trade value.

Consider this: A package of Brad Holt, Josh Thole, Ike Davis, and Dillon Gee would be a significantly better return than the Twins got than for one (cheaper) year of Santana. Holt>Gomez, Thole>/=Mulvey, Davis>Guerra, Gee=Humber.

If the Mets had Buchholz, Anderson, and Ellsubry, they could easily afford such a deal, and the only team that might have outclassed such an offer would have been the Sox. Plus, the Mets still have F!, Mejia, Havens, Flores, etc. constituting at least an average system.

It may be a long shot, but it really doesn’t seem impossible, and it would be a huge win in the long term.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 20, 2009 4:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

My crazy idea:

Mets get:

Clay Buchholz
Lars Anderson
Jacoby Ellsbury
Two more prospects

Red Sox get:

Jose Reyes
Daniel Murphy

THEN

Mets get:

Joe Mauer

Twins get:

Brad Holt
Josh Thole
Ike Davis (maybe Jefry Marte?)
Dillon Gee

This is a better package than the Twins gave up for one year of Johan, who was set to earn less money in 2008. Unless Cot’s is wrong, this would be for one year of Mauer at $12.5 million, and an assumption that the Mets would offer him a generous extension.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 20, 2009 4:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

That actually would make sense for all teams

However, I could see Mauer getting a much bigger haul than Santana, simply because of his perceived value. He is a catcher, which automatically makes him a valuable commodity, who hits like Piazza and fields like Pudge. Plus he is right in the middle of his prime, and if the power he has shown this year is for real, he is probably the best player in baseball.

Still, it’s hard to get a ton of value for a guy going into free agecy soon, so you might be right.

St. Louis relievers... defying win expectancy since 2008
http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/

by vivaelpujols on Jun 20, 2009 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

His power isn't real though

I don’t mean to disparage Mauer as he has been the best player in the majors since his return and has quite possibly deserved two MVP awards in the last three seasons. However, his HR explosion this year is very clearly a mirage. His 26.5% HR/FB is way out of line w/the 10.5% figure he sports over his entire career. We can’t posit that this power has been developed recently since he’s posted HR/FB figures of 6.5% and 7.2% in his last two seasons.

HitTracker supports a healthy skepticism of his power as well. (Here.) Nine of his 13 HR have been to the opposite field, all of which traveled less than 400 feet. Eight of his shots have come at the Homerdome, two each at Yankee Stadium and Comiskey, and one at Wrigley Field.

So I’m not sure exactly where I was planning to go with this other than to say, yes, Joe Mauer is great, but it’s not reasonable to expect more than 15 HR/year from him. And that means that after 2009, a season in which he may hit 25 or even 30, he’s going to be overvalued.

by Zwill on Jun 20, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe he's been eating his wheaties

Either way, even if the power is a mirage, he’s still an awesome player

by cjmulrain on Jun 20, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

The perception of Santana was "best pitcher in baseball"

And he had less perceived injury risk. I mean, its crazy just because there’s so much talent moving around, and that doesn’t happen often. But if it went down, I can’t see how I could object, and it really would benefit each organization in the exact way they’d be trying to help themselves.

The Red Sox would get the premium position star they so desperately crave. And from their perspective, with outfield and pitching depth to spare and a tentative desire to keep Jason Bay around, two years of Jose Reyes looks more appealing than one of Joe Mauer.

The Twins leverage one year of their superstar for many years of talent in the future. They get a bat to put behind the plate, a true power arm, a rotation filler arm, and another more long-term project.

The Mets leverage Jose Reyes’s team friendly contract for lots of much needed young MLB ready depth and a market rate contract for Joe Mauer. Essentially, the Mets have spent $10 million to substantially enhance their roster at SP, 1B, and OF while swapping strength at SS for strength at C.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 20, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Begrudgingly, this is very good.

Although I would hate losing out on Reyees, getting Mauer would make up for it. Plus Buchholz, Anderson…etc.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 20, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is

This all happens in the offseason, after all prospects make their natural progressions and assuming all MLB players prove healthy and effective through the duration of this season.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 20, 2009 4:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

santana haul

The prospects the Twins received for Johan are massively underrated. Understandably, because they haven’t exactly panned out, but let’s not go recounting this revisionist history either.

But Gomez and Guerra were top 50 guys, while Mulvey and Humber were borderline top 100 guys. To get a comparable package from our current system, you’d have to go into something like Mejia , Flores, Niese and Gee.

by T Pac on Jun 20, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really. You're sort of underrating our current prospects/overrating the ones we sent away.

Almost from the get-go, everyone knew the Johan trade was an obvious one sided haul. Guerra hadn’t reached the level that Mejia is at right now (he showed the potential, but Mejia has definitely out performed him at their respective ages. Gomez was very toolsy, but Flores has significantly more potential. Niese and Gee are about equivalent to Mulvey and Humber, but Niese has already had MLB success in a few starts. Altogether, those packages are definitely of differing qualities.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 20, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree

Gomez was fringe Top 50 (BP: 65, BA: 52). The only other player to receive a Top 100 ranking by BA or BP was Guerra, who came in 79th on BP’s list, but went unranked on BA’s.

I think the prospects for Santana, aside from Guerra, who was a huge risk/reward element, panned out exactly as expected. The advanced guys reached the outcomes that seemed most likely. Humber’s velocity, which was way down at the time of the trade, hasn’t returned. Mulvey looks like a decent option at the back end of a rotation. Gomez is a useful player on glove alone and still has speed to spare, but his bat is weak.

Holt, assuming he pitches well in Double-A, will be a better prospect than any of those guys at the end of the year. He has more upside than any of the pitchers aside from Guerra, but considerably less risk than Guerra. Holt looks like the likely outcome is mid-rotation starter, with room for potentially more and a downside as a quality bullpen arm. A successful second half in Bingo, its hard to see him being any lower than Gomez was. Thole will have an outside shot at ranking, but he fits right into the Twins contact hitting philosophy and need for a young, cheap, ready catcher. Dillon Gee certainly won’t be ranked, but at least his stock is continuing to rise, Humber’s was definitely not. I’ll take Gee’s back end rotation potential over Humber’s. And in Davis or Marte, both of whom should have a shot at ranking, you can choose between a somewhat advanced, mid upside hitter or a Guerra like risk/reward in bat form.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 20, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guerra was #35 on BA’s list. Gomez was 52nd. Humber was 73rd the previous year, and may have made the top 100 again if his eligibility hadn’t expired.

Guerra was extremely praised by scouts and the Mets community. Remember, he is only months younger than Mejia, and had a very successful season in the FSL in 2007.

Anyway, the entire discussion is likely moot as Mauer may be the player least likely to be traded in the majors. A lot of the Twins moves lately have been geared around being able to re-sign the hometown boy Mauer when the time comes. And he will certainly receive much more in return than Santana did.

by T Pac on Jun 20, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

So he was

Wow, I’m kind of stunned by BA’s take on Guerra. I always felt like he was viewed as lots of projectability and a kinda balky shoulder. I was honestly surprised the Twins didn’t get a bit more, I thought Gomez was a pretty solid haul at the time, but the deal was light.

As for Guerra, I remember the glowing scouting reports, but they all seemed to have disclaimers too. His velocity was inconsistent and he’d had shoulder issues, but his size and plus changeup screamed projectable. Mejia’s about six months younger, but still spent his entire age 18 season in the FSL as well, and though he’s smaller, his velocity was much more consistent already and he didn’t have the injury issues. And Mejia’s also one of the greatest examples of a “helium” prospect I can think of off the top of my head. He wasn’t Top 100 going into the season, and now Sickels is talking about him potentially being Top 20 by the end of the year. Guerra probably had similar potential, but the risk was clear with him, as it would have been with Mejia five months ago.

As for the other prospects, Humber was coming off an age 24 season in Triple A where he posted a 4.80 FIP and 5.12 tRA. His peripherals were decent but his results were poor despite a .276 BABIP and 8.79 HR/FB. Reports were that his fastball lacked life and that his formerly dominant breaking ball was looking a little lazy, especially deep into the season, which is reflected in FIP’s over 5.00 in each of June, July, and August.

Mulvey wasn’t ranked, and he was a better prospect than Humber. Humber wasn’t a terrible prospect as far as fourth players in a package go, but his upside was back end starter and downside was organizational filler by this point, and the recent signs weren’t positive. In fact, Gee is very similar to both of these guys. They all spent their age 23 seasons in Triple-A and put up similarly decent strikeout and walk rates to go along with middling GB/FB ratios, and they were all pitchability-first guys, and not power upside arms (at least not anymore, in Humber’s case).

But you may be right about the Twins plans, this isn’t quite like 2008 when the Twins had a number of players to consider locking up like Morneau and Nathan as well. At the same time, Mauer would be the best free agent option in the 2011 class by a whole lot. Have the Twins ever handed out a nine figure deal? It’d be tough for a team that’s trying to keep payroll between $50-$75 million to commit >$15 million per year to one player over so many years.

What I’m saying is, if Mauer decides to test the market, the Twins will have a tough time being players. There’s a huge gap between him and the rest of the market in that class. I have no idea what Mauer’s intentions are, and I’d be curious if he’d ever expressed any.

Still, my point is that this is a viable strategy for the Mets, try to leverage Reyes’s two year bargain into MLB ready and near MLB ready depth, and then leverage some of the lower system depth into and extra spending money into more polished talent, maybe even a replacement superstar if you can snag an expensive or soon-to-be FA away from a small market team.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 20, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoops

Need to stop posting when I’m exhausted lol, dunno what I was thinking about Mejia in the FSL at 18, obviously not true.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 21, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I don't care how clear hindsight is

Its kind of silly that Guerra was ranked higher than some of these guys. Joey Votto? Really? The dude was clearly about to break into the majors and was coming off excellent years in Double-A and Triple-A. This is a gross misappropriation of ARL. I love upside, but advancement is always more important. An advanced 20 year old is more impressive than an advanced 23 year old. But while a successful season in the FSL for a projectable 18 year old is impressive, it doesn’t create a better trade commodity than a 22 or 23 year old with plus stuff and consistent mechanics coming off a good year in Triple-A.

Look at Flores and Marte, they’re both having hellish times in the SAL despite some early ARL magic. They’re still great prospects, but its hard for another team to go out of their way to put a big investment in a guy like that.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 20, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair to Flores and Marte

the last couple weeks have been promising for both of them, and it looks like they might finally be adjusting to the league. But overall, agreed-and Marte might already have to be moved from third base to like RF or something.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 20, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Things still seem pretty rough overall for Marte, but Flores seems to be coming around a bit. He needs to learn its okay to take a walk though. But yeah, he’s 18, its not really a huge issue right now.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 20, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still 17

His birthday’s in August.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 20, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, right you are

I think I was confusing their birthdays.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 21, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who plays center if Beltran is traded? Church? Martinez? Come on. Need to let Delgado walk this year, and get a good bat with his lost salary, whether it’s outfield, 1st base, or Victor Martinez at catcher…whatever. No need to trade Beltran still in his prime. Maybe in a watered down market they could sign Holliday for 12-16 mil a year. I’d take a 3-4-5 of 15, 5 and Holliday.

by David G on Jun 20, 2009 2:36 AM EDT reply actions  

umm

Ellsbury. That’s a key part of the proposed trade

by cjmulrain on Jun 20, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t even want to consider trading Beltran BUT a package of Lars, Bucholz & Ellsbury would be very attractive.
And I would only want to consider trading Reyes IF the Mets were to steal a Hardy, Drew or Tulowitzki from another team.

by Ohpityme on Jun 21, 2009 6:15 AM EDT reply actions  

The one factor

missing is that the Sox really value their home grown talent. Im not saying they wouldnt trade guys like Buchholz and Anderson, but that they are going to be very expensive. I really think that Theo would only put one of these guys up for sale while mixing in other various parts to get Reyes. If the Sox were only willing to part with one top flight pitching prospect (Buchholz), one top flight fielding prospect (Ellsbury) and filler for Santana (who was/is praised as being the best pitcher in baseball) then Id have to believe that they will not break the bank for Reyes… I would love to flip Reyes for Buchholz, Anderson and other but I just dont see it happening

by tbach81 on Jun 24, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Reyes is worth a lot more now than Santana was when he was traded.

by T Pac on Jun 24, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again...Let's just keep Reyes...

And make smart general management decisions with signings, trades, drafts, etc.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 24, 2009 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

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Unsurprisingly, the physical tape deteriorated over time, and the screen jumps and sound skips made for a less than optimal viewing experience. With sale of the video discontinued, my brother converted it to DVD and gave it to me for Christmas in 2010. See the picture above for the box and DVD. He even created a scene selection function which can be accessed from the main menu. "Get Metsmerized!" plays on loop on the menu screen. It is my favorite Christmas gift ever and is still nice to throw on for a viewing.

"How'd we do it? Mirrors!"
I was flipping through some of my parents' photo albums this afternoon in search of one particular shot of the sign my older sister made for Mets Banner Day back in the late eighties. Though I didn't find that one — I'll post it when I eventually track it down, and I can assure you that it's Keith-themed — but I did stumble upon this wonderful photo of my younger sister's stuffed animal menagerie spread out in front of a glorious rainbow-festooned Mets pennant, also from the late eighties.

She works for the HRC now and was particularly delighted to be reminded of this photo.

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Now that banner day is back, hopefully this years will look a little like this. I know it's not great, but i don't pretend to be a professional. embiggen!

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