Open Thread: Mets vs Orioles
by Eric Simon on Jun 18, 2009 6:02 PM EDT
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F! moves from 2nd to 8th.
What logic is this?
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
I have no idea
Jerry is showing no confidence in him. First by pinch hitting for him and now this.
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 18, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Fixed
What logic is this? What is this, “logic”? Do you have any idea?
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Jun 18, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Umm
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Jun 18, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
http://cdn1.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/55603/3629848600_f817c0598b_o.jpg
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Jun 18, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Jun 18, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
No it doesn't
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Wow
I never saw this before. Shear genius.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
He should have never been second to begin with
but this just shows Jerry’s lack of confidence for what ever reason, and you knew Jerry would have to go with the hot bat in Murphy.
But still, the biggest question of logic is: Why is Omir Santos in the major leagues?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
His clutchiness??
God I hate Jerry Manuel.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
schnieder is
hitting in the .300s since his return, but I guess his hot hand is too hot for Jerry
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Im feeling a big night from F! tonight
in spite of jerry
"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even knew existed."
-Casey Stengel
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 18, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions
That never gets old
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
That never gets old
Tom McCarthy announcing?
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Jun 18, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeter injured?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
yeah
he got hurt when sheff slid into him
by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 18, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
question
how is it the middle of the third in the yankees game? what was the start time?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
damn
what was the start time?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Sorry, me and my Pacific Time
1:05
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
holy crap!
wowzers
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Was it raining that bad in the city today?
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
yeah, it was pretty sh*tty
but i thought there must be some window before 7ish. damn.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Let's go Cora
Get me a double up front.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
well the leadoff walk will help
corra sees a lot of pitches, which is nice.
David Eckstein: so gritty they would eat him in the south for breakfast with some butter and sprinkle cheese.
nice leadoff AB cora
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
aaaaaaand a shitteous at bat from murphy
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Couldn't domuch with those pitches either
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
We need to be patient with this guy.
He has terrible control
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
man, where was mora playing?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Oh God
Beltran best not be hurt
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
i think we are going to find out after the season
that beltran has been battling much more serious injuries than we thought
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
he's like pujols
always hurt.
David Eckstein: so gritty they would eat him in the south for breakfast with some butter and sprinkle cheese.
ugh carlos is always hurt
David Eckstein: so gritty they would eat him in the south for breakfast with some butter and sprinkle cheese.
blah
wright has had some ugly swings lately
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
HE SUX OMG LETS TRADE HIM AJFDS:HFDSHOFSDH:SDFHJDFSDFSklfefwuwfsszsszjkn
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
We might have to ship some money for that trade
pretty lopsided if you ask me.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Nah, we could at least get
Darin Erstad for Wright
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Oy, love leadoff walks
But everything else that happened in that inning was crap
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 18, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions
he's good though.... right?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I dont know
But the way they framed it. He’s undersized and he wont let that stop him from playing football.
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
At this rate, Livan can go 24 innings
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
nice livan
quick inning
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
livan is a baller
David Eckstein: so gritty they would eat him in the south for breakfast with some butter and sprinkle cheese.
David Wright is so strange. I really can’t ever remember seeing a guy more hot and cold as David has been in 2009. He goes from making the most elite pitchers in the sport look like easy work, lining base hits with ease all over the field, but then when he is going cold there is no worse hitter in the league. He has gotten into some terrible habits and every time (seemingly) that we go into a small park he starts trying to launch balls. Sometime in the last two days he got into the whole I’m going to pull everything you throw me over the LF fence approach that I hate so much. Uehara blew three 86 mph fastballs right past David, crappy located fastballs right down the middle of the plate, you would have thought it he was throwing 100. I wish somebody would just tell David he is not a home run hitter. When he starts getting that pull happy upper cut swing, he is an easy out. This isn’t meant to be a David Wright sucks rant, far from it. I just find it so curious that the kid can go 3 weeks of hitting .700 and then all the sudden he just looks absolutely lost, unable to hit mid 80’s fastballs with plate. I can’t be the only one who sees this right?
"It's like the old phrase goes.....The balls in your court now Mr.Church, so you take that ball, you dribble it up the court and....................................... get a layup"
- Keith Hernandez
I've been seeing it for 4 years
He’s a streaky player but the hot streaks far outweight the cold streaks and that’s what makes him great. Consistency is nice, but I’ll take 8 more of him if I can get them.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Didnt Neil DePodesta do a study that found out that if he had 9 Scott Hattiesbergs the A
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Paul DePodesta
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Yes Paul
forget it. It was a lousy post that I should have cancelled
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm still trying to form cognizant arguments using SABR
This is relatively new to me. I confuse things
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
what a gritty strikeout from santos!!!
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
What the hell ws he swinging at?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
You have a guy who has more walks than strikeouts
And you go up there flailing the last 5 times…genious.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
I'm very worried about the future of our offense
with the upcoming teams we will play, Voltron and Dubs inevitable cool down period and everyone else’s inability to hit a homerun or show power.
We'll have our ups and downs
but overall it’s still a pretty decent lineup. It would be nice if Church got it going.
Really, Jerry?
A Church hot streak
would be most welcome right now. He’s showing some signs.
by James Kannengieser on Jun 18, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
We are
Tons!
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
you asked him
to throw strikes
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
There goes Wiggy...
I always liked him aside from the fact he was blocking Dub.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Happy Thursday everyone!
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
Yo man
I spent all day thinking it was Friday. I was sadly mistaken.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Fernando's gonna homer here
I’m calling it
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Does that count as a double in the swag?
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
i know, I'm reaching
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Nick Johnson is leading the league with 7 errors
yet another reason why I think he would be a bad fit for the Metsies
That'd be a silly reason.
He’s had a good career UZR-wise at 1B, This isa down year with a small SS.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
He has a small shortstop?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
SS= Sample Size
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
I'm not an idiot
It was a bad joke
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I was close
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=828&position=1B
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Way to beat it out, Slappy!
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 7:38 PM EDT reply actions
I still hate you Castillo
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I'd gladly substitute that slappy special for a caught 3rd out
and a game in the standings
Murphy
Save my swag and double
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
mine too
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Thole 2-2
Nick Evans homered
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Yankee management at least doing smart PR things for their fans
Let everyone who sat around for the 5 hr rain delay move to whatever seat they wanted.
why does
rober andino own us?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
you know
I think it’s time for them to come up with something to say about Robert Andino that doesn’t also involve Matt Wise
If Matt Wise was watching this game
I’m sure his eye just twitched.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 18, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions
eddie Murray and Manny Ramirez hit their 500th HR at Camden Yards
The trivia question
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions
3rd career homer
what a joke
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Who the fuck is Robert Andino?
And why are 2 of his 3 homers against us?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
because we love making bad players look good
See Berkens, Jason
Matt Wise was supposed to be out bullpen's savior last year
didnt happen
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
he was signed for 1 yr adn $1 mil
idk about savior
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
He was filler if I remember correctly
kind of a flyer
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn sarcasm being difficult over the internets!!!!!
I meant he was the only new player in the bullpen last year from 07 and Omar thought it was good enough
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Why is the saying in baseball that someone can field "his position"
Are there also players who can field someone else’s position at the same time?
Just an old cliche
that many many many sportswriters use to sound like they know what they are talking about
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Baseball announcers know nothing about baseball
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
But that's not what it means
“Livan can field his position” = “Livan is a good fielder”
So why don’t you just say that he’s a good fielder? Or say something more precise like say he has good range, or that he has soft hands, or that he charges bunts well, or something like that?
I guess maybe I’m curious about the etymology of the saying more than anything else.
Newsday tweets:
9/11 pins stolen from mother of fallen firefighter
Valley Stream women gives birth to twins at 53
And people wonder why the newspaper industry is failing?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
yes it is
i don’t know why people like it so much
by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 18, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
+∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞
All social networking really
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
See, I don't agree with that
I think Facebook is a good one-stop place to go for a lot of information-sharing. I just think Twitter is all about further de-braining our culture.
In 140 characters or less
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
They were able to get their message out
it was the only way they could.
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Message Boards wouldn't have gotten it done?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
No they were getting shut down
Twitter for some reason was the only way get pictures and messages. Now they are using Torrents
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It also helped provide info
from hostages during the Mumbai attacks last year. Maybe I don’t care that somebody “Just got a killer lift in at the gym! HOLLA!” But that seems like a pretty cool thing to me.
Not me, certainly not you
That’s why I don’t follow those morons. But that’s not what I’m talking about. The medium does not lose its relevance b/c of a few uncreative, self-indulgent twats. Otherwise, you could make the exact same argument about Facebook (which you just praised) or the internet as a whole.
I guess that's a fair point
People who post dumb stuff on Twitter don’t invalidate the medium any more than Metsblog invalidates sports fan blogs
somemoron's friends care
I think people use it more as a news aggregator than anything
spell check doesn’t like aggregator
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 18, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree
I think it’s great
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
BINGO
and you have to pay of them, and stuff
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 18, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Michael Kay says the Yankees sturggled against rookie pitchers this series
like John Lannan.
Not a rookie, Mike.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
I'm thankful Kay doesn't annouce the mets
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
GARY MENTIONED BABIP!!!!
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Didn't he bring it up in the first at-bat, too?
That Dubs was hitting .490 on balls put in play, or whatever?
It's possible
I just turned it on now.
by James Kannengieser on Jun 18, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
OH MY GOD
THEY JUST USED BABIP IN A BASEBALL BROADCAST
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions
LIFE IS GOOD, MY FRIENDS
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
I have new respect for Gary and Keith
and I had alot of it before
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Next inning
Ralph Kiner will regale us with a lesson on tRA and tRA*
by James Kannengieser on Jun 18, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
well, hold on a second, Keith
is the problem that he decided to throw? or that he made a bad throw? if he makes a throw that any of us here commenting on AA could make 95% of the time, Voltron is out
ughhhhhhhh
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
OK
make contact with RISP. please
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 18, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions
I had the mets scoring 8 rus in the swag
i was wrong
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
an 8 is kind of like two zeros on top of each other
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 18, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
thats how all four year olds write the number!
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I actually just went back to writing my 8s as two circles
I win most uninteresting post of the night!
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 18, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
oh god
this offense is in a lull
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
well, we do have 1 entire hit
that’s something
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
uuuuuuughhh
could our middle of the order be any worse this series with RISP and less than 2 outs?
This guy has 40 strikes on 59 pitches
Half of those were out of the zone…rediculous
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Not to be an asshole
but “rediculous” is wrong and extremely annoying. It’s spelled “ridiculous.”
Fine then, I shall banish myself to the corner with a dunce cap for my sin of a typographical error.
Urruph.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Next time someone has a typo, all the next replies should contain even worse typos
on purpose, for the fun of it
How about loose for lose
That one really gets me
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
cp 1o1?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I want to reach through the monitor and strangle people who write loose instead of lose
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
That and when people use
then when they should be using than
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Insure and ensure is pet peeve of mine as well
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The only one i really never understand
no matter how many times explained to me is affect and effect
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
It sounds like it should be "re"
that’s why so many people make mistakes
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
don't be defensive about it
I wasn’t trying to be a dick, it’s just an annoying and commonly made mistake.
When you elongate the word it sounds like
re-dick-u-lus
I elongate all my words
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
livan is throwing meatballs up there
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
kevin burkhardt
love him or hate him, he’s got the best job ever. he just gets to sit out in the park, watch the mets games, and occasionally say things on tv and interview people. awesome.
David Eckstein: so gritty they would eat him in the south for breakfast with some butter and sprinkle cheese.
Total shocker
that a Danny Meyer restaurant is better than Boog Powell’s. Heh.
heh
well, I mean, the thing is, for a while, Boog Powell’s was pretty darn good for ballpark BBQ, but I don’t think it ever compared to good restaurant BBQ. now that you can get good restaurant BBQ at Shea and decent restaurant BBQ in the Bronx, how noteworthy is Boog’s?
Baltimore < New York
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
I have a friend from college
who cooks at a really nice gastropub/microbrewery in Baltimore. Surprised the hell out of me when I tried it out.
Yup
Though Brother Jimmy’s isn’t close to touching Blue Smoke. That’s total blasphemy. Not that that’s what you were saying.
I missed the good vs. decent there
I gotcha. And I meant it’d be blasphemy to say that Brother Jimmy’s was in the same ballpark (no pun intended) as Blue Smoke.
Brother Jimmy’s in the stadium would seem to be missing something that the actual restaurant has in spades — the waitresses. The food is meh.
did someone just tell these guys that the awesome patience they had at the plate
was stupid?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
omir
craptos
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
7 k's in 4 1/3?
wtf?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
God I hate him.
I hate him so much.
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
At least we're working the count
ugh
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
bleh
Fernando Martinez has a 12.5 LD%
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
idk
Keith reads a lot. It’s not indicative of true intelligence, but maybe just knowledge of useless words like those.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
This game is boring me.
Quick, Gary, talk about BABIP again!
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Too pedestrian for Gary
I want him to use WOBA
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Chances of him using tRA?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I put it pretty high
I think Gary is into Sabermetrics
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Scratch that
i want Gary and Keith to talk about grission
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Holy crud
that was the biggest hanger in the history of baseball.
by James Kannengieser on Jun 18, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions
Oh god
Fatty is fat
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Way to hustle for that one Santos
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
oh boy
here come the o’s
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Look at the OBP
299
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
nice/lucky play by livan
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Nice play, Fatty!
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions
Nice play Livan
makes up for that play at first
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions
Nice livan
Atone for your past sins
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Catlike is not an adjective I would use to describe Livan
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions
Mine is really fat
but still very agile.
He jumps across everything in the house
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Better than most of our staff
and he meows a lot, that’s always useful
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
the phillies are going to go 1-5 in their last 6
and we’ll go 2-4
wonderful
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
it seems like every time we have a
chance to catch the phills we always don’t
by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 18, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd use Feliciano for Markakis
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
he should of signed
penny instead of redding
by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 18, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
he should of signed
penny lowe instead of redding
ollie
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
yeah he should
but if he was going to be cheep penny would have been better than redding
by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 18, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Redding would've been fine for $2.25 mil as the 5th starter
if Derek Lowe was also signed. Unfortunately that didn’t happen. Penny cost $5 million also.
by James Kannengieser on Jun 18, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
and he's been better than pelf
so we can say he’s been our 2nd!!!
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Adam Jones does look like he's going to be a star
except in that picture of him where he’s got his eyes closed
I recall when he was coming up last year, and a couple years ago
and everyone said a great comp was Mike Cameron. And others said no, just because he’s a black centerfielder who can play some D, it doesn’t make him Mike Cameron.
Well, not knocking Cameron, but Jones looks way, way better.
ughhhhhhh
way to go fatty
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
wow
cmon livan
uno mas
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
that just never looks right
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
huge k
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Good K, Fatty
one more out and you get a Little Debbie Cupcake.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions
2-0 on Huff
really not good here
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
yay
2-0
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
ughhhhhhhh
3-1
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
more like a bullet
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
you suck livan
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
caught
yay
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Whew
lucky.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions
Louie Louie!!
thank you.
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
He can catch that but a routine fly ball is another thing
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions
CoRRRa!
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions
lets string some hits together now
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Voltron!
C’mon, Dub!
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions
voltron!
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
i think wayne is saying burkitt. does he think john burkitt is making a comeback?
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 18, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions
come on david
bring em on home
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
i'll take it
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
OK well that is a thing.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions
He might want to have tried
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
you have no faith in
the running start?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 18, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm thinking
the running start into a brick wall still ends up being a bad result for the runner.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
if wall=weiters
then cora +4r = runz baby
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 18, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
im with Mex
i’m tired of the cutsey slides. when men were men!
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 18, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
jump with a flying kick?
don’t you mean Chan Ho Park?
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Valdez wouldn't be afraid
to spill the catcher
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 18, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
see what i did there
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 18, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
You would only see a flash and then Valdez standing on the home plate
Putting his sword behind his back
Hello children
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
wow even voltron scared of merkakins gunz
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Alright.
Come on Churchy. Let’s get these runs home.
PLEASE.
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
Alright, Sheff!
Let’s go, uh, Church?
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions
is a berken a
kind of wig for old ladies’ public hair?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
we should have a vaudville act
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 18, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
YOU'RE the straight man
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 18, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i was happy to spell it
here comes the giant hook thing
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 18, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
now we have to have faith in church
ugh, not good
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Hallelujah Church!
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions
CHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
that came out horrible
I cant type tonight. I am not showing up in the clutch situations
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
UGH!
Well. I guess that’s better than striking out.
I still hate you Omir.
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
He hit it hard
but i still dont like omir
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Captain Clutch comes through
with a groundball to short
very gritty out
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
i hate these SNY food porn shots
when i have no dinner
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
now they're placing their orders
Kevin’s proudest moment as a broadcaster
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 18, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Boog Powell
whatever. Sam Malone totally struck that guy out once.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 8:44 PM EDT reply actions
was almost a hit
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 18, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought kevin asked keith if he still wanted boobs
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
+1
now yer talkin.
if elaine benis is any evidence, mex not a boob man
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 18, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah Kevin is really
powdering Keith’s merkin, if you know what i mean
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 18, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
weird game
i was about to jump ship a couple innings ago, now it’s tied
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 18, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions
That was not even close
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Apparently Alex Cora is a professional
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
CoRRRRa!
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions
i've always been a mild fan of interleague play
i think i’m done with it
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 18, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions
that was Corrific!
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Yankees down 3-0 to the Nats in the bottom of the eighth
lol
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
the yankees losing to the nats is what got me through the mets loss last night.
"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even knew existed."
-Casey Stengel
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 18, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
CoRRRRRa!
Thank you, high throw!
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions
nice call
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
YESS!!!!
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
HAMMER!
RBI knock!
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions
IRISH FREAKIN' HAMMER!!!
YES!!
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
oooh baby
that’s gotta feel good for murph
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 18, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions
smurph!!!
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
i'm treasurer of the tony shalhoub fan club
we have no money
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 18, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
He's an outstanding actor
“Do you have any idea how much that stings?”
by James Kannengieser on Jun 18, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I still think Joey Cora is more weird looking
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
VOLTRON!
Yeah buddy!
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions
YES!
TRON!
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Alright
We’ll take it
Get it done pen. 9 outs.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Livan was going out for the 7th
as far as I know
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions
I hope not
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
With about five more runs to our ledger
No problem.
by All Shook Down on Jun 18, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Phils lost
Yanks about to lose
this could be a real good day
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Marte is 2-3 with a double
Wilmer is 0-3
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
"injury delay" posted on gameday...who's injured now?
by dulciusEXasperis on Jun 18, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions
Livan is fat and was having fat related pains
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
he bent over
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Man Livan is ridiculous
He gives up ropes, then he’ll get a double play, work out of a bases loaded jam by striking out their best hitter and getting lucky on a high line drive to our smallest and worst defensive infielder. He’ll nimbly field his position by snagging line drives and making aggressive put out attempts. He’ll get good hitters fooled on trick cutters and eephus pitches. Oh and he’ll give up home runs to the other team’s worst hitter.
...and walk away without bead of sweat
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Nice play, Dub and Hammer.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions
Livan The Magnificent!
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Yes, Santana is pitching and I get a free cap on Saturday
sounds like its going to be a great day at Citi
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions
Plus you get to see a terrific team in the Tampa Rays
Zorilla!
by All Shook Down on Jun 18, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
And the food
I’m going to go Livan on the taste of the citi
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
If he don't give up 9 runs
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
better than 9
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Carson with another beastly performance for the Gnats
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
I usually don't get into the Santos snark
but I’ll try:
Hey, Santos got a walk!
Ah, that was weak. I really just don’t care. Good, rare, BB.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah stay above it all
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 18, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Santos draws an awesome walk
yeah!!
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
After F!'s at bat
its going to be 6-2
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
he probably was
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Sheff has
career lows in LD%, GB%, and FB%, and has the second highest HR/FB of his career.
Maybe we should expect a rapid decline pretty soon.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
The regression may be inevitable
but I think your claims are in error. His LD% is def a career low but his HR/FB was higher for several seasons in the middle of his career and is not that much higher than his career avg. Also his BABIP is in line w/career norms but perhaps should be a shade lower. The strength of his game right now is plate discipline and that seems totally sustainable.
C'mon, Pedro F.
damn he has pitched a ton the past 10 days or so, or at least it seems that way.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions
no, he has
But I mean, it’s usually no more than 2 batters. He’ll be fine.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Anyone notice Feliciano's BAA vs RHB?
It looked sub .300
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Yeah, .278
and only 1 HR (stupid Diaz).
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I meant one HR to RHB
three to LHB, yeah.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
what's up everyone
just got home, i’m liking this score, anything major i need to know about?
the bullet was with the bases loaded and two out
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
pretty decent
got out of a huge bases loaded 1 out jam in the 5th
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
hefty
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 18, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
We were actually losing 2-0
so this is especially sweet. They tied it in the 6th, and scored 2 runs in the 7th after a nice 2-out rally (Murph with an RBI double and Beltran with an RBI single).
Really, Jerry?
you've said that same post
4 times already
we haven’t really gone once
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
man
as long as feliciano doesn’t hang pitches he’s great. all he has to do is keep the ball away.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
any chance he needs a break?
i’m not his biggest fan; maybe he’s getting used too much
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 18, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe?
He pitched all three against Philly, one against NYY and all three this series. That’s a lot of work lately.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm a huge fan
the man has been great for us for like 6 years.
but yeah, he could use a day off.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
We could certainly use some help vs. lefties out of the pen.
I don’t think Switzer is ever going to get a chance. The dearth of decent relief arms in our system is troubling.
holy crap green
throw a strike
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
ughhhh
green looks sloppy.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
i'd bring in k-rod here.
but, ya know, i’m sane and all.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
north korea
is needed now
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
nice play castillo
your range still sucks and the tying run is on base
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Woo!
Run scored but nice play for the out, Slappy.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions
Slappy!
Yikes. Nice play.
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
if we can get an out here
it’d be really nice to see an insurance run added in the top half of the inning.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
don't like this matchup
i want k-rod
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
you know
francesa will be pissed tomorrow
by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 18, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
got him!
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
YESSSSSSSS
"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even knew existed."
-Casey Stengel
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 18, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions
YES
GREEN!!
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
whooo
nice K, Green
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 18, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions
GREAT PITCH
WOOOO
"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even knew existed."
-Casey Stengel
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 18, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions
haha
your joking right? he has been money so far
by cuseindahuse on Jun 18, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
He was Manuelizing
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Normally I'd agree
But if not for Castillo’s D tonight, we’d be looking at a deficit of at least 6-4.
Really, Jerry?
Was that just "grit" that I saw that inning?
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Nothing to see here
move along :P
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
Flashes of it
yes
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
There was grit
but no passion. Hence no grission.
by James Kannengieser on Jun 18, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Now for our minor league update:
Thole 3-4 with a double
Tejada 2-3
Marte 3-4 with a double
Flores 1-4
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
slapppy
"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even knew existed."
-Casey Stengel
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 18, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions
LUIS LUIS LUIS
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
please no bunt
"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even knew existed."
-Casey Stengel
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 18, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions
of course there is
"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even knew existed."
-Casey Stengel
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 18, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions
"productive offensive day"
Bunting produces what, exactly? An out? For one base? Yea, that’s a great deal.
Wait, don't we already have the lead?
I’m sorry, I shouldn’t assume there is some logic to the bunting.
No one has trained Manuel otherwise.
Which is ridiculous.
by JohnPeterson on Jun 18, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
not on the internets , gotta have that "E"
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 18, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
If anything we dont bunt enough
I wanna see murph and voltron bunt
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
exactly
man on third here, 2 out
we should be bunting
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Always trade a base for an out!!
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
well same thing
Now Voltron should bunt Castillo in
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
OK
So before the bunt the O’s had a 14.3% chance of winning.
After: 15.3%
HOW IS THAT PRODUCTION?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Heh, exactly
The ESPN computer can compute the value of the out.
those probabilities
are not computed specifically for Cora AB.
oh man
pitch around for wright?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
David Wright
will make you payyyy
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
MAKE THEM PAY DAVID,
MAKE THEM PAY!!!!!
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
i love their hats
"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even knew existed."
-Casey Stengel
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 18, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
indeed
I don’t even know what they’re wearing tonight. fill me in.
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 18, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea.
I hate the Mets’ grays. I don’t like their blacks much either.
by JohnPeterson on Jun 18, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice "Let's Go Mets" chant going at Camden
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Holy shit David
Stay in your shoes, there.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
I think Dub was trying for a home there
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
He was bound to
How the hell did Ted Williams bat .400 for an entire year?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I certainly don't
He doesn’t even have enough PAs to qualify for the league lead right now.
Really, Jerry?
No way
but he’ll probably lead the AL, maybe ML, in hitting
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
yeah, really tough especially for a catcher
plus mauer gets hurt a lot
he sometimes sems to have an od approach to me,
2 outs, risp.
I love the fact that
Michael Kay was ripping on the Nats the whole series. Good to see them take 2-3 from the Yanks.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
In fairness
they are hard not to rip on
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 18, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry
hard on which not to rip
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 18, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Did Kay know anything about the Nationals
usually he just blithely dismisses any team that isnt in the AL EAST
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
it makes me so mad every time i see that 1 blown save
should for sure be 18/18
Man
They’re talking about how bad A-Rod has been this year.
He has a .198 BABIP (!). Yeah, the LD% is at 14.3, but still.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
ughhhhhhhhhh
shitttttt
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Damn frankie
come on get the save here
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
i thought they were gonna get him
they’ve been talking about how slow he was the whole game
"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even knew existed."
-Casey Stengel
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 18, 2009 9:47 PM EDT reply actions
Celebration
Kool and the Gang. Cue it up It ain’t Frankie if you don’t sweat.
Why isn't Pie's last name pronounced pie?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I like your reason the best
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
LETS GO
"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even knew existed."
-Casey Stengel
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 18, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions
that was a strike
"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even knew existed."
-Casey Stengel
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 18, 2009 9:49 PM EDT reply actions
are you kidding?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
i was just predicting
what the next 2 posters would say
A K-Rod blown save was bound to come
but this would be pretty shitty timign
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
SANTOS
WTF ARE YOU DOING!?!?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
FUCK HE WAS OUT
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Cut him jerry
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
?
this sucks dude.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
My angst died with that Castillo pop-up.
No more fear.
by JohnPeterson on Jun 18, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
DAMN IT
I HATE OMIR NOW MORE THAN EVER
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
don't play defense back
jerry is such an idiot
he threw it
when the guy was maybe 10 feet away. Already sliding almost.
Is he intentionally walking AJ here?
No way he can make this worse.
Still not worried.
by JohnPeterson on Jun 18, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Bounce it right back to the pitcher
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I believe Vin said it best.
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
In Abject Disbelief
We know K-Rod’s fallibility was inevitable, but why tonight?!
by David, the Mets fan from Queens on Jun 18, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions
still
was a a nice try. I’d take the out, but he gets him, nice play.
3-2 here
goddam
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
PATHETIC
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
worried now?
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
MOTHER OF ALL THAT IS HOLY.
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
He's been lucky this season
Games like this are due to happen.
by James Kannengieser on Jun 18, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Shit job by Frankie
But Santos needed to throw to first before.
I HATE you omir santos
I HATE you
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
epic fail of a game
the pen had 5 outs to get with a 2 run lead
pathetic.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Well game over
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
It's Over
Good night! K-Rod is making Bruney look GOOD tonight.
by David, the Mets fan from Queens on Jun 18, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions
yeah 5 man infield!!
bring in your best outfielder!! to play second!!
Jerry pulls the goalie
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Well...
What makes you think we’ll make it out of this inning alive. All the O’s need is contact.
by David, the Mets fan from Queens on Jun 18, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
phillies fans are happy
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
The Mets just dont like gaining games on the Phillies
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 9:57 PM EDT reply actions
yeah
everytime we could gain a game we lose
by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 18, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I take solace in knowing the phils lost
but just a little
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
they were down 4-2
idk
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
We need a K here frankie
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Bonding
We must bond together and share this great pain.
by David, the Mets fan from Queens on Jun 18, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions
delaying the inevitable
too bad we didn’t get the man at first on the bunt
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
Yeah
that would have been useful. But DA GRITZ wanted the runer on 3rd
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
gimme a break
Frankie lost this one
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 18, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
some one splain to me
why you bring in Beltran, your best outfielder, into your 5 man infield.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
i loathe omir santos
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Incompetence
Now, how to sleep?
by David, the Mets fan from Queens on Jun 18, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
Relax everyone
Fernando Nieve is pitching tomorrow.
by James Kannengieser on Jun 18, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
a new way to lose
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Two games over .500?!
We should be four games over .500, one game behind Philadelphia. Instead, misery strikes.
by David, the Mets fan from Queens on Jun 18, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
this team just sucks you in
and rips your heart out when you don’t expect it
by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 18, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
it's fucking hard being a mets fan
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Writing Letters
Do you guys ever write the Mets letters venting your frustrations with them?
by David, the Mets fan from Queens on Jun 18, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
i dont know
jerry loves him some omir santos
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
we just lost 3 series we should have won
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I'm not too sure
this series didn’t have many unlucky breaks. Francisco didn’t have it for the first time this season. You could tell the into inning.
Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.
i think we have loss every series
in june so far
by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 18, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
hopefully tomorrow will bring a better result
if not i don’t know what i’m gonna do
if we lose to the rays
and are just 1 game over .500 jerry needs to be gone and omar needs to make a trade
by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 18, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
it was francisco
not omir. Not a great choice, but trying to keep it from being 2 runners in scoring position. It was a flier. I’d rather go for the sure out, but it was a bad bunt and he got to it quick.
how many ways can a team lose
drop pop up,missing 3rd base,blown save,two balks,drop fly ball,
by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 18, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
Sleep Aids?
Honestly, how do you guys sleep at night? Forgive me for positing a sophomoric question, but honestly, this frustration is terrible for anyone’s blood pressure; especially mine!
by David, the Mets fan from Queens on Jun 18, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
You're Right
It’s difficult to keep yourself emotionally detached when watching a game. Whenever someone invests a vast amount of energy and time onto a team that continually disappoints its fan base, one is BOUND to feel dejected.
I guess it’s best to remain objective.
by David, the Mets fan from Queens on Jun 18, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
I have been a fan for a long time and I always remember the very lean years to balance out my expectations. There were years when we were out of it by now.
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
an old fashioned
or some bourbon and soda, then I collapse until the 3 a.m. feeding. I’m over it already. The Yankee loss was worse.
I dont understand it. If you're closer is not getting it done, why do managers insist on keeping them in there
why dont they bring in someone else
by aparkermarshall on Jun 18, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
hmm
he has gotten out of jams before. I am not gonna say he should pull frankie there.
Frank pitches himself into and out of jams all the time
This jam was just too big to overcome. Still, I’d rather see him in there than Parnell.
Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.
We've lost 3 series in a row
Philadelphia: easily could have won 1 of last 2 games
New York: we all know
Baltimore: this
I mean, that’s 3 wins, putting us even with the Phils. Instead we’re 3 games back.
2 run lead with 5 outs to go. If Feliciano gets Huff instead of hanging one inside we win this game easy.
Whatever. G’night folks.
Jerry Manuel...stop being....stupid...
no
they’d be ahead. Loss to Phils is 2 game swing.
meaning
if Mets had won tonight, the Catillo drop game and one Phils extra inning game, Mets would be in first.
It's games like this that make the "drop" game so annoying
Frankie was bound to blow one but the “drop”, Church not touching third. They can’t keep flushing these games down the toilet.
church heating up
Murph too. Need to start putting up crooked numbers.
I am not too worried, if frustrated. I think Reyes and Delgado will both come back, Wagner or Putz or both maybe too, Ollie and Maine.
I sense a big second half. Bye bye Phils.
Not to be a negative Nancy but
not sure how much more of this I can take. I’ve always been a die hard but i’m losing patience. I’m tired of using the injuries as excuses. Good teams find ways around injuries and don’t give away games that they’ve set themselves up to win. There’s been a rotting stink embedded in this team for 2+ years and I don’t see things changing anytime soon.
this
was more a typical tough L. Sometimes a closer blows it. I thought they fought back well from down 2-0. Tough, but not as tough as castillo game.
Right
Castillo and Church games were worse. This was just a loss.
i still can't look at a video of that
now every time i think about a subway series i will always think about clemens throwing the bat at piazza and that luis drop pop out
by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 18, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Good teams do overcome injuries
but not to this many players. The majority of the “big-name” players on this team have missed time. And frankly, Delgado is the linchpin of the lineup. I do think this team was poorly assembled in that there’s no sufficient depth, but these injuries have been ridiculous. That being said, there are a good handful of games that were winnable this year that got away. And Frank’s been perfect until tonight. There was no getting around tonight.
Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.
agreed-I can live with the fact that our starting pitching is thin, or set up guys are shaky, or even that we are missing a big power bat
but they’ve thrown too many games in the trash that this current 25 man roster was in a position to win. They’re not taking this division this year, that is for sure. The Phillies had a rare hiccup this week and the Mets got a whole stinking game on them.
The standings aren't what I worry about
the Phillies showed that in 2007. If you play consistently and win series after series, that will take care of itself. But that team hasn’t shown that ability since…2006.
Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.
We came into the season with a black hole at 2B and uncertainty in the corner OF slots
Obviously, losing a superstar SS and your slugging first baseman hurts, but this team has a faulty design, which exacerbates the injuries.
by All Shook Down on Jun 18, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
The Yanks
are reeling. But for that drop game ALL the radio talk and tabloid bs would be about them collapsing.
the good news
is the “mighty” and “powerful” yankees lost to the worst team in baseball and in all of sports
by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 18, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Jerry spinning BS on the post game
waiting for the obligatory obnoxious chuckling to suck up to the media.
much prefer it
to Willie’s paranoid morosity. My mom is a therapist and she caught him once, and said “that man is clinically depressed.”
Oh god I hated him
Talk about unable to manage a bullpen…freaking Mota and Sosa — they’re still relieving in my dreams.
by All Shook Down on Jun 18, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah but he was just reserving his happiness for the champagne party
when it was supposed to taste that much sweeter
and Willie knew from champagne
he tasted enough
I hated his bully tenedencies too
No shit Ruben Gotay and Angel Pagan played over their heads, but that doesn’t mean you say that to the public. Also, Heath Bell.
by All Shook Down on Jun 18, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
If we had the Padres version of Heath Bell in 2007/2008
I’d have to say that’s at least one postseason birth. I mean, he wouldn’t have de-butchered one or two of those games in two seasons?
Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.
I agree
F U Willie, I hope you never get another managing gig.
by All Shook Down on Jun 18, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
At least this was one game where Jerry didn't do anything wrong
Besides write Santos’ name in the lineup.
by All Shook Down on Jun 18, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
Bobby O
I’ll have to agree. Screw the Phillies getting swept. Mets have to take care of business. hell, the damn Rockies and Padres won 10/11 in a row. Won’t against this schedule, but at some point the Mets can reel off a nice streak.
Maine is out indefinitely and Nieve will make a few more starts
now raise your hand if this news suprises you in any way
I actually really want to see
what Nieve’s got. I’m about done with Redding, and since Ollie might be ready before Maine at this point, Redding really has to go once Perez is ready.
Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.
my rotation
1:Johan
2:big pelf
3:niese
4:Nieve
5:livan
by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 18, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I was going to say
that’s mine exactly. I think Livan’s the #3, but order doesn’t really matter.
Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.
I haven't had a problem with Redding as most have
he’s been what you’d expect: 5th starter like. He was solid against LA, Wash and Philly, ok against Baltimore and pretty bad against Boston and Florida. If we had a normal 1,2,3, and 4 starter he’d be just fine
Considering we don't
I’d rather give someone else a shot. But if we did have the normal rotation, I’d still rather see Niese, Nieve, or Figgy as the 5.
Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.
For what it's worth
tRA+ of Mets starters:
Johan – 127
Redding – 98
Livan – 89
Ollie – 87
Pelf – 85
Maine – 72
I’m not implying that Redding is an All-Star, but he’s been better than the ERA suggests. The hate directed his way is unwarranted, thus far.
by James Kannengieser on Jun 18, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
when your name is tim redding
you deserve all the hate you will get
by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 18, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Nieve is intriguing
In the minors he’s had a K/9 of about 8, BB/9 of 3.5 and his GB/FB is close to 1. Looks like he’s been a little lucky throughout his career with his HR/FB rate of about 8.5%.
Walks killed him in 2006 with Houston in his only meaningful big league stint. If he’s able to pitch reasonably close to his minor league peripherals, there’s no reason why he can’t be at useful pitcher for this team.
by All Shook Down on Jun 18, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe this is off the subject, but
I gotta ask, what’s with people posting “at least the Yankees lost.” Who cares what they did? I don’t understand the Yankee obsession. I could care less. The Yanks can win 128 games or lose 140. I’m only concerned about the Mets and to a lesser degree the Phils and the other wild card teams like the Cards.
It’s that same mentality that has Met fans chanting “Yankees Suck” during a Mets-Pirates game. Seriously, please quit obsessing about that. It just reveals an inferiority complex.
To those that find Redding "acceptable" or "adequate" in any way...
Do you also own a vinatage Brian Lawrence ’07 jersey? Redding is Brian Lawrence reincarnate. Costing the team crucial games with brutal performance after brutal performance, masked by 1 slightly decent performance.
The bar is so low for Redding, a dwarf (it’s late, cannot think of anything smaller or more amusing than a dwarf for this metaphor…Ryan Seacrest?) could not limbo under it.
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