Mets Roster-Palooza
by Eric Simon on Jun 22, 2009 4:58 PM EDT
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Per Ed Coleman's Twitter feed (?) and MetsBlog's pregame report, roster changes are a-brewin' at Citi Field tonight.
- Carlos Beltran will be placed on the disabled list with a "bone bruise on his right knee"
- Fernando Martinez will be recalled from Triple-A Buffalo to take Beltran's spot
- LHP Ken Takahashi has been sent back to Triple-A Buffalo
- RHP Elmer Dessens has been recalled from Triple-A Buffalo
- LHP Patrick Misch has been recalled from Triple-A Buffalo
- INF Wilson Valdez has been designated for assignment
With all that as the backdrop, here is tonight's impossibly bad Mets starting lineup:
- Alex Cora, SS
- Daniel Murphy, 1B
- David Wright, 3B
- Fernando Tatis, LF
- Ryan Church, RF
- Omir Santos, C
- Jeremy Reed, CF
- Luis Castillo, 2B
- Tim Redding, P
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wow
thats literally all i can say
"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even knew existed."
-Casey Stengel
by He'sGotPotential on Jun 22, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are the mets now carrying 13 pitchers?
Omar saw that the Cardinals are doing it? Tony LaRussa’s a genius? What is going on. Pelfrey had an RBI yesterday, he’s the new RH bat of the bench.
by mets81 on Jun 22, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, that made no sense
but I just dont get it.
I guess I just picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.
by mets81 on Jun 22, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually,
with Jerry overusing the bullpen, it does make sense to carry an extra arm — provided it is actually used
by alexSVK on Jun 22, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we needed to call up extra guys
so Jerry can continue to never actually use Socks
by JoshNY on Jun 22, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cerrone claims Stacks is the 8th inning guy tonight.
Anyone want to wager Jerry decides to let Frankie get a 6 out save tonight?
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jun 22, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm basically terrified
of what Will Carrol is going to have to say about Beltran.
by Mount17 on Jun 22, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the Mets are awesome.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Jun 22, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In other news...
Wright, Santana and KRod ordered to wear bubble-wrap suits at all times.
by blains2000 on Jun 22, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
At least
The rotation is deeply stocked with solid pitchers in their prime. Oh wait…
"You know I am only teasing. I love you gals out there -- always have." - Keith Hernandez
by OSUmets on Jun 22, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At least we signed Derek Lowe
D’oh!
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Jun 22, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm over Derek Lowe
solely b/c at this point, I think there’s a 0% chance he wouldn’t have landed on the DL. I think the Mets could clone Cal Ripken Jr. and Lou Gehrig and figure out a way to get both of them on the DL at the same time.
by cjmulrain on Jun 23, 2009 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They need some grission
Maybe if they all start following Livan’s training plan, they will stay healthy.
Grission and Husart - that is either the non-union Mexican equivelant of "Starsky and Hutch" or the key to winning the World Series.
by IanB in MD on Jun 22, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This was so horrible
I had to login on my iPhone(which is a pain….SBN needs an app) and say…….wow.
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
by pingel on Jun 22, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So there's no back up middle infielder?
Great!
by All Shook Down on Jun 22, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For what its worth
Will Carroll today implied that it was in fact Jose Reyes who was fibbing about his status, and that Omar had given the accurate info so maybe this is a further indication of good news on that front?
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on Jun 22, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
white flag time
We don’t have the horses with the injuries .
by DoctorK16 on Jun 22, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
First
I’d like to see how the next 60 days pan out
by TheBigStapler on Jun 22, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is a Ghastly Lineup
I think Schneid should be playing and hitting cleanup! Doesn’t Jerry love to ride the hot hand? That’s his thing!
I see that lineup and I think of that famous Seinfeld scene where Kramer’s been smoking all night and says “Look away Jerry, I’m hideous!”
There seems to be a an empty roster spot if Oil Spill was designated. Who’s filling that last spot.
by David G on Jun 22, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
geez
This is unreal. Maybe ticket prices will go down with the lineup they are putting out there.
Not like this matters but is Elmer Dessens still a starter?
"I told him the next time he does that, I’m going to get my blade out and cut him, right on the field. Hey, I’m a gangsta now. You go gangsta on me, I’m gonna have to get you now."
- Jerry Manuel
by dave the rave on Jun 22, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who is it, anyway, behind that MetsWFAN Twitter stream?
I would so love for that to be Eddie Coleman. But maybe it’s Chris Majkowski? Or a group account for all of them?
by anonymous on Jun 22, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's a little worrying
That Elmer Dessens is coming to be the savior of the pen.
"Put it in the books. The Mets are the 2006 National League Eastern Divison champions"--Howie Rose
by firejerrynow on Jun 22, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So F-Mart is on the team
and Jeremy Reed is in CF? Awesome.
"It's like the old phrase goes.....The balls in your court now Mr.Church, so you take that ball, you dribble it up the court and....................................... get a layup"
- Keith Hernandez
by nrmax88 on Jun 22, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Prob just in transit tonight
Let’s see if he’s in there tomorrow and going forward. Better be.
by Zwill on Jun 22, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fernando Martinez is not a CFer
So Reed is going to play everyday.
by All Shook Down on Jun 22, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm, you are aware that F! was a CF before we moved him last year to the corner, right?
by ljshorty89 on Jun 22, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gary Sheffield came up a SS
Fernando is not good enough to play CF in the major leagues. The scouting reports and the Total Zone numbers support my claim.
by All Shook Down on Jun 22, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand that he won’t be a gold glover, but F! is more than capable of playing a decent CF. I’ve seen him play CF in AAA, and I’ve seen him in ST, the guy has enough range to play CF, has a good glove and a good arm, and while he’ll have to adjust to the new position in Citi, I think he’d do fine given the opportunity.
Plus, F! will have to play anyway, they wouldn’t have brought him back up if he wasn’t going to start.
by ljshorty89 on Jun 23, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, to be fair
Reed’s supposed to play decent defense in CF, right? and his bat plays better there than in a corner.
of course, he’s no Voltron.
by JoshNY on Jun 22, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of sad, confused children at the ballpark.
Who are all these people, Daddy??
by TheBigStapler on Jun 22, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not just children
Son, look only to our 3B superstar
by Michkin on Jun 22, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's like 2004 all over again!
Quick, find me the carcass of Gerald Williams!
by Zwill on Jun 22, 2009 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At least last year
Everybody knew Moises Alwho and El Bootque were major risks going into the season. This is crazy improbable.
by TheBigStapler on Jun 22, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ugly
We’ve one, maybe two legit major league starters. Just ugly.
The injuries might save Jerry’s job, too.
by jasondg on Jun 22, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not worried at all
You know why, my friends? Because with Delgado and Beltran out, Wright is the sole captain. Expect greatness all around.
by TheBigStapler on Jun 22, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
De Rosa
Plays 1B, 2B, 3B, LF, RF. Respectable defensively and a really good bat. The cost is something equal to or greater than 2 draft picks (he’ll probably be a Type A free agent). I honestly think he’s a logical part of the solution. Mets offer him arbitration after the season and either reap the draft picks or he accepts. Another year of Mark De Rosa would not be an altogether bad thing.
by MickS on Jun 22, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DeRosa would be fine
He wouldn’t do much to solve the poor defense, and I bet someone pays more than the value of two draft picks. If I ever hear Jenrry Mejia’s name connected to him again, I might start shopping around for automatic weapons.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on Jun 22, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One step ahead of you, buddy.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Jun 22, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can he play all those positions at once?
That would help.
Seriously, the more holes you have, the less you need a utility guy, whether he’s a good utility guy or not. If the Mets are about to try to fill those holes through a trade (which I don’t necessarily think is a good idea!) they should be targeting the best available hitters who can play corner outfield, 1B, or (only secondarily) middle infield, not a decent hitter who can field all those positions.
by anonymous on Jun 22, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but who do you suggest we trade for him?
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Jun 22, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can only wonder if Dub will try to carry the burden all by himself
Calling the responsability for himself when all the rest has fallen.
He does sound that kind of person, who tries to do too much (and end up in a slump, that’s not even taking into account his BABIP regression).
by Michkin on Jun 22, 2009 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bad luck...somewhat
but the faults of Omar should be glaringly obvious to all at this point.
by JDizzzy on Jun 22, 2009 6:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Something must be brewing.
Besides Voltron going to the DL
why would we release Wily Mo and Javier Valentin? Should we be expecting a trade of some sorts soon. I actually enjoyed Valdez kinda sorta.
by RIPShea on Jun 22, 2009 6:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok how can DW not bat cleanup now?
Not that it will matter because he won’t see a fastball again until after the break but come on can the man get a few weeks at cleanup?
by Major on Jun 22, 2009 6:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
at this point
I’d rather see him try to drive in Cora/Murphy/Castillo/F-Mart in those first innings than Tatis.
I was really excited for Tatis this year but he just doesn’t have it.
Who would bat 3rd?
by RIPShea on Jun 22, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least d wright wont be batting 5th anymnore.
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
by kendynamo on Jun 22, 2009 6:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Jerry's blown a gasket
Via Cerrone:
Brian Stokes will likely be used as tonight’s the eighth-inning guy, as he looks to get Bobby Parnell and Sean Green some rest, Manuel said.
Must be a cold day in hell.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on Jun 22, 2009 6:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What a weird day.
I pray he has a good night because if he doesn’t, he’s going to be shining shoes at the Airport.
Parnell may get 5 chances, but Stocks will probably get one before being banished to Japan.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
by AnthonyR on Jun 22, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As i was typing before someone deleted sam's fan shot...
The only positive about this is that now maybe we can get rid all of the front-running fans that our fan base has collected in the last few years and the long-time fans will become the dominant force once again. One can only dream…
by meigs1414 on Jun 22, 2009 6:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Silver lining
Another positive is Takahashi and Valdez are gone. We really rushed those youngsters up! Let’s put them back in the minor league stew and let that upside potential marinate.
by David G on Jun 22, 2009 6:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DeRosa is an average player who really won’t help us defensively. Nick Johnson would be great for us if we were in the AL.
The Mets have actually been good offensively in runs per game. These injuries are real tough but considering we’ve had them all year and are only 2 games out of first let’s all breathe a little bit. Let’s ride the boat until the all-star break and see where we are at.
The farm system is not in shambles. I’m really impressed with how far it has come along the past year or so. Omar has also been good with the low-risk high-reward type signing (Sheffield, Tatis, Livan, Nieve (so far), Dessens (dominated Triple A). I really don’t think you can blame Minaya on the state of the Mets. It’s just bad luck. I’ve been thru it for 20 years now.. but I’m still a Met fan.
The only thing I want to see done is release Redding..or at least move him to long-man duties..if Nieve keeps it up give him that 5th spot. Maine/Perez will be back soon. I’ve been wanting Pedro since October and still have a want for him in a Mets uniform but depth in the starting rotation really isn’t an issue if we could just get the guys on the mound.
by RIPShea on Jun 22, 2009 6:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don't really have TOO much criticism for Omar here
In past years the guys we’ve seen going on the DL were players who we all knew were going to get hurt… Alou, Pedro, Cliffy. Was he really supposed to see it coming that a bunch of younger guys with no serious injury history were all going to get hurt this year?
by JoshNY on Jun 22, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heres why I think you're wrong
Omar went into the season with the following:
1. Delgado at 1B where we knew he would be a risk given his first half of last year and his age.
2. Castillo as 2B where his knees are something you wouldn’t want to rely on for 150 games
3. Church in RF coming off major concussion issues. He has really only strung together one good half in his career and that was before the injury.
4. A platoon of Murphy (who has no power) and Tatis (lightening in a bottle twice?) in LF
5. A toss up at the 5th SP spot. (Granted Santana and Pelfrey seemed to be safe however Maine was coming off surgery and dont forget how many innings Pelf threw last year. Ollie is always risky. Now it seems to me that if we had these risks in our rotation we should have signed a guy who is solid, ie Lohse or Lowe, for our 5th spot, but we didn’t. Fast forward to the current and what happened? Redding had to take Ollie’s spot and its been a merry go round trying to fill in spot starts for our other SP injuries.
Now here is my ultimate point. The risks above aren’t as bad as they have been in 2007 and 2008, however considering that Omar has $150 million to spend, you’re telling me you can’t field a complete team with that much money. That our GM has failed to put together a solid roster for 3 years. The injuries this year are worse than average but when you look at the last three years, you should have expected this possibility given the age history of the guys Omar’s brought in. He is all about signing a bunch of injured guys/veterans thinking about their “upside” rather than first putting together a roster of solid everyday players. We don’t need a superstar at every position but we should have at least MLB average at every position.
by JDizzzy on Jun 22, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with much of what you're saying
Though don’t take too much stock into Dessens. He is a fringe major league pitcher and the epitome of a fungible bullpen arm. Also, Redding hasn’t been too bad. This team would be able to withstand his uneven performance if, you know, they actually had a representative team on the field.
by All Shook Down on Jun 22, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thing with Redding is
He shouldn’t have even been signed in the first place. So what he won 10 games for the Nats last year. His numbers all across the board were below-average. I just never saw the point in him. Elmer Dessens should be a decent bullpen guy for the time being. We will see.
by RIPShea on Jun 22, 2009 6:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok, we're not going to the playoffs.
Poor David Wright.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Jun 22, 2009 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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