Open Thread: Mets vs Yankees
by Eric Simon on Jun 27, 2009 6:12 PM EDT
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Wtf is up with Reyes 2nd?
great idea Jerry, put the guy least likely to get on base in front of our best hitter.
Alex Cora batting leadoff...
Is proof that Jerry has no idea what the hell is going on:
Cora is 0-19 in his career against Burnett with 7 K’s
He is hitting .130 over the last 7 days and .210 in June
Does that sound like someone who should be leading off to you?
So to recap, we have a guy who cannot hit the guy who is pitching for the opposition and a guy who cannot hit any guy ever unless it is in AAA, batting 1st and 2nd???
Ladies and gentleman, your 2009 New York Mets!
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
To be fair
Cora has generally done a good job of getting on base this season. 0-for-19 is bad, but it’s still just four or five games. Also, look at the rest of the lineup: only one guy can bat eighth, after all.
Except that guy is debatedly the hottest bat in the lineup sans David Wright.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
But combined with the fact that he is in a deep slump, it was a poor day to give Castillo a rest.
Argenis could give us better defense at short and give Cora a break that he really needs against a guy that he has not done well against.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Remember before he came back Cora said he wouldn't be able to play everyday.
Perhaps that might explain his slump.
Sure...the guy has a mutant hand and is playing out of necessity.
He’s also not an everyday player and has generally done a good job. I don’t blame him, I blame the dullard in the dugout.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
reyes batting 2nd?
and why no evens in in LF.sometimes i think jerry wants us to lose
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 27, 2009 6:41 PM EDT reply actions
I just don't get what is so difficult...
Castillo 2B
Murphy 1B
Wright 3B
Church RF
Sheffield LF
Schneider C
Reed CF
A. Reyes SS
Redding P
Write it on a piece of paper, give it to the ump, sit in dugout giving Redding dirty looks when he walks people. Very simple…
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
That lineup isn't much better
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
Replacing a guy who is slumping and a guy who is a AAA player at the top of the order is pretty important.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
you're still putting Murphy in the most important spot
not to mention, Reed is playing in that lineup
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
I'm just taking what Jerry did and replacing Cora with Castillo
and getting the two people least likely to succeed out of the 1-2 hole.
Unfortunately, there is not much we can do. Redding isn’t a ground ball pitcher and after yesterday, we may won’t to go with a more “defensive” line-up.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
reed?
a rather have church in CF sheff in RF and evens in LF
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 27, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Church, Evans, Sheff would be a horrible defensive outfield
It can work for Pelfrey since he’s such a GB pitcher, but redding needs some outfield defense to have a chance.
Gah
C’mon, Redding.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
Ah, crap. I hate it when he does this.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
He didn't listen.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
I don't know
But you’re right, his are massive.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
yea
you get sausage fingers
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jun 27, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy shit
Can you possibly be a bigger douchebag?
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
Struck him out, anyway
But that guy is gonna get pounded by Matt Stairs for his “heroics”.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
that was an old george carlin routine
He said they would beat up Yankee fans for their milk money.
What a bitch
That guy is just the prototypical Yankee fan. He thinks he’s so cool for doing that. He’s gonna be talking about it on his deathbed.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
If I see that guy on the street tonight
He’s going to be on his ass in a second. What a tool.
http://buzztap.com/
actually
that guy looks like he would take me easily.
make A.J work
so we can get into that bullpen
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 27, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
Go sit and spin on it you mongoloid
Nothing worse than a fan who thinks he’s part of the game. Cano wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire, jack ass.
Inductee
To the first class of the Douchelord Hall of Fame
by James Kannengieser on Jun 27, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
I would support waiving the five-year waiting period
given how stupid that was.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
Haha
Fuck the Bensonhurst ltalians
with their pomaded hair,
their nylon warm-up suits,
their St. Anthony medallions,
swinging their Jason Giambi
Louisville Slugger baseball bats
trying to audition
for “The Sopranos.”
by James Kannengieser on Jun 27, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
That’s the scene. I like how Spike rips himself off, same type of scene in Do the Right Thing
Yeah, Turturro right?
I’ve gotten into Spike Lee joints recently. “Clockers” is awesome.
by James Kannengieser on Jun 27, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Guy had no effect on the at-bat whatsoever in retrospect
But he’ll still be talking about that play 30 years from now. What a joke.
http://buzztap.com/
problem is he is front row.
no tough fans nearby to give him the works.
So nice to have productive hitters in front of the league's batting leader
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
WTF is Manuel doing batting Reyes 2nd??????
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Right, "gangsta"
I laugh at “gangsta” now.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
This is going to feel like we are swimming upstream for the next 3 hours
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Sheesh
Burnett is putting right down the middle for Wright.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Not that time
That was pretty filthy.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
But the two before it were right down the pike.
And David was pulling his head out.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
god damn
we might tim to throw CG 4 hitter to have a chance
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 27, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions
I wanna see
that Woody Allen Larry david movie. Terrible reviews butI don’t care.
Yeah, I know
I’m a little conflicted because it’s gotten such excruciating reviews. But I love Woody Allen and CYE.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
can't be awful
it’s a woody script from the ‘70s. And I heard Larry interviewed on NPR and the interviewer said the closing monologue speech was great. Likely patchy, but I won’t mind.
I met Woody Allen in a pizza place in East Hampton when I was a kid.
He was wearing a Yankee hat. I’ve hated him every since.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
I have seen him
reference the dodgers, and the Polo Grounds…but he likely likes the old school teams. He’s just a big sports fan in general.
maybe because he's playing in jetter's spot
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 27, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
If Burnett gets a hit I am going to lose it
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Mets win
3-2 on a throwing error on a Cora sacrifice in the 8th.
Come on dude, he's an AL pitcher for crying out loud
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
phew
I’m comin’ elizabeth. Lamont, get me my heart pills
to answer my own question
i still don't know why
the dodgers gave a rat’s ass.
Wow
I had never heard about that. That’s very strange.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
i like how Ethier sid
he had a minor league teammate with rings and he didn’t want to be caught staring in the shower. Unlike staring at Brad Penny’s tripod, with which i imagine he was completely comfortable. Not.
Yikes...we are not looking very potent.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
We've had more base runners than errors
So no
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
why are you driving that cadillac?
Doctor says I’m impotent. If I’m impotent I better look impotent.
THat’s an awful joke.
If it was politically correct
He’d probably also say do lots of uppers and womanize. There was hits in that misogyny.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 27, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
but that's what ruined gooden's career!!
not pitching 220 innings as a 19 year old!
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
pitching 220 inning
at 19 is the devil on this earth
The fact that Keith never worked at hitting
and still hit .297 for his career says a lot about the quality of pitching in the ’70s and ’80s. But no, this is the era where starting pitching is so mediocre.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
!!!!!!!!
My man.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Keith's pre game ritual
1.) Spit on Kramer
2.) Do some Columbian nose candy in the bathroom
3.) Ask Dykstra for sound financial advise
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Don't forget the cigarette
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Reed sucks
prove me wrong
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
I'll take that
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
Fernando has massive arms
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
put Arods hands
on them. You’d have a freak.
Sigh
I hope we come up with an analogous mechanical super-thing for him one day too.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 27, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I would have though Manuel would have used Santos' "short swing"
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Come on Schneid. Another 3-run HR?
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
It really perplexes me
how, despite all of his miserable failings, it doesn’t even seem like Cashman’s job has ever been in jeopardy. Whenever the Yankees fall apart (or miss) the playoffs, their fans automatically turn on the manager.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
Seriously, like you can't give a bum off the street $200 million and have him stumble into a Series in 8 years?
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
didn't
cashman refuse some Kennedy package for Santana?
WIth Hughes and others.
Still stupid…I think we got him for less than they were going to give up.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
That's what I'm thinking
Not saying that it’s an easy job to be a major-league GM, but he has so much more at his disposal than everyone else.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
I really don't know if he does a good job or not
All I know is that they have all the best free agents because they overspend to get them. Seriously, it’s not that hard. Almost every good player they acquire is a result of their financial might (e.g. every free agent, Nick Swisher, Bobby Abreu). It’s not like they’re turning out stud prospects either.
by All Shook Down on Jun 27, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Their problem is that they overpay "Yankees" when the extensions come around.
Jeter, Posada, et al make more money than anyone would have paid them imo.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Bernie Williams
He was pretty terrible through the back end of his contract.
by All Shook Down on Jun 27, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
And look at A-Rod
He was getting mild interest from the Angels and Giants, that was it. And then they sign him for 10 years, $275 million?! No one else was offering him more than half of that.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
Plus $30M more
if he breaks the HR records
I would void the crap out of that with the 'roids situation.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Yo
The Slider!
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
fuck
i’am going to go get some food.when i get back i hope it’s 1-0 or 1-1
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 27, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions
If you would have told me "The Beard" would have given up 1 through 3, I'd have taken it.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
That's 0-21...great decision Jerry.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
At least we cleared
the Anus spot in the lineup
Don't worry, it comes back around pretty quickly
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Hey, Slider! How's it going?
Jeeze, can we get on the board here?
by MetsFan4Decades on Jun 27, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Evans, Murphy and F! need to play everyday
Because if you’re going to play rotten hitters…they might as well be young.
Yeah that.
He’s coming off an ankle injury.
by All Shook Down on Jun 27, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Marlins are up...if we don't score some runs, we are gonna be in 3rd place.
Disgusting.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
nice trybut i
just heard howie say it was 1-0
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 27, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
gotta run for a bit
the mrs. says I gotta take the little one for a walk
Am I the only that thinks it's time to start plunking a few guys here and there?
These Yankees hitters look to comfortable in the box for my tastes. We need to send these guys a message that they are not here for BP.
I’ve noticed that with a lot teams against us.
Well...
Redding started off the game with a little chin music to Gardner.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jun 27, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I missed the first few innings
I think we need a lot more of that. These Yankees hitters are lookin way to comfortable. Posada looks like his foot is practicly behind the plate on his last at bat.
I hope Omar's watching.
We need a bat real bat.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
He's probably watching
with a casual interest.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
One bat will not help.
Playing the best possible lineup, good pitching and a little bit of luck will.
by All Shook Down on Jun 27, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm calling BS on Ron Darling and Keith Hernandez
I’m sick of hearing the old gatekeepers for the old players. What legitimate proof is there that the players now aren’t throwing as hard as Nolan Ryan?
I think it has to do with the fact that a pitcher would put a MF'er in a headlock and pound him until he cried.
Back then…that holds a lot of weight.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Weren't they saying
that back then the radar guns were generous to pitchers? Ron said that the old guns had Ryan throwing 100+ every start, when that clearly wasn’t the case.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
Anyone nursing a Tavares Celebration hang over?
I feel a little flat today. After last nights elation this series feels like a bit of a let down adrenaline wise.
When I remember that DiPietro has a 45 year contract, it tempers my enthusiasm for anything Isles.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
This game sucks!
We have no fucking hitting.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Yeah, really
Ugh.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
Was that as deep as it looked on Gameday?
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Here's the sucky part of the line up again
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
What a surprise
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
We have made this piece of crap look like Cy Young the last 2 games
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
C'mon, Scneid
Get us off the no-hit…schneid.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
Well, that'll do, I guess.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
Great
now Redding’s up with 2 outs.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Maybe Jerry will have Redding bunt
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
That was ball 3
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Haha
I like Swisher.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
I wish Nady wasn't out for the year.
He’d be perfect.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
I'm getting to the point where I can't believe I put up with this sh!t year after year
Someone remind me why I keep coming back for more.
We're only a half game out of first!
Well, a game now. But still, our fortune with this awful division has almost balanced out the awful misfortune with injuries.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
This is hell month against the AL East
It’s interleague play on roids.
After this series I think we are screwed.
Crap.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
Uh, oh
I was just thinking what a great job Timmy is doing…
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
I would have yanked him after the double.
You gotta know that you can’t give anything else up with this offense.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
So...
This is what some offense looks like.
Unfortunately, with our anemic offense, good pitching isn’t good enough, it needs to be damn near perfect.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jun 27, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions
motherfucker
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
That's just freaking stupid.
WHY DO YOU KEEP HIM IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Uh...
4 pitches. Didn’t give Jerry much time to get someone up and ready.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jun 27, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
The fact that TIM REDDING is pitching in the 6th inning is a pretty good sign.
It’s called thinking ahead with the heart of the order up.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Can't agree.
Up until those first 4 pitches in the 6th, he was doing well. You don’t take a pitcher out when he’s pitching well, especially after 5, and run your BP out there for 4 innings.
He did all that damage with 4 quick pitches. No way to predict that.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jun 27, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
There is a foolproof way...
Tim Redding is not good. He’s at 90+ pitches, have someone warming
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
only if they put the ball on a tee
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 27, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
FIRE JERRY MANUEL NOW!!!!!!
JUST GET RID OF THIS GUY ALREADY!!!!
HE CAN’T MANAGE HIS WAY OUT OF A WET PAPER BAG.
HE MAKES ART HOWE LOOK LIKE TOMMY LASORDA OR DAVEY JOHNSON.
ENOUGH
That always seem to be the question asked by those who refuse to realize that Manuel never pulls his pitchers when it’s clear they are gassed.
Manuel can not manage his starting staff.
He even admitted in Newsday that he mismanaged the pen.
How was it clear the pitcher was gassed?
I hate Jerry, but there is no way to blame him for that inning. Redding was pitching REALLY well, and it went downhill on 4 pitches. Jerry could not have done anything.
true
but he has cost us some wins this season
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 27, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree.
Don’t know what game some are watching.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jun 27, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
He was up to about 95 pitches or so to start the inning. Redding, if you’re lucky, you get about 85 before he loses it. His stamina is not that high.
Anyone else with a brain and knowing Redding would have had the Pen warming before the start of that inning.
Manuel has no clue. Redding was gassed and gave that last inning before he was yanked all he had.
Ok so let me get this straight
You are in the boat that wants to get someone up in a bullpen that has already been overused this season just in case something happens?
Despite the pitcher looking very solid through the first 5 innings and only allowing 1 run, on an opposite field home run no less, you still want to get the guy up in the bullpen in case something happens. Isn’t this the same croud this gets mad a Jerry for taking Santana out at 110 pitches? Now your mad for not taking Redding out sooner? I just don’t get it.
I am in the club that says get rid of Jerry but this is by no means on the Gangsta.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Lemme see if I have this correct?
Are you telling me you honestly think Redding is good for more than 95 pitches?
Today?
Yes. He had held the potent Yankee lineup to next to nothing.
Now if he had given up 3 runs in a 3-2 game ect ect, no I would have pinch hit for him in the fifth.
If you go solely on pitch count then your bullpen will be crap by the end of the year. You have to leave your starters in when they are rolling. Nobody could have predicted 4 runs on 4 hits on 4 pitches.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
To say that you can predict the four runs is beyond the pale.
To say that a guy entering an inning with about 95 pitches who normally goes 85, is going to lose it, is easy to predict.
Look at all the games the Mets have blown and look at the 6th and 7th inning. Thats where the most damage is done to us.
Redding rarely goes more then 85-90 pitches before he’s gassed. At that point you have to have some one in the pen ready to go.
It’s a constant pattern with Manuel.
What'd he pull some reliever out of the crowd?
Who the hell is this guy, I don’t recognize him. Did he replace Sticks or something?
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 27, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
besides yanking him
how bout not calling for/ serving up 1st pitch meat when it’s clear they’re swinging at it?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
wow 6-0
fuck this.i say we don’t win until nieve pitches on monday
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 27, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions
Ha
Nieve is now the stopper.
I’m pretty much looking for something else to watch on TV now. I’ve had enough bullshit for one night.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
we better hope kazmir and the rays
win or we will be in 3rd place
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 27, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions
here's a nice time for a bunt
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
wow it is painful
to listen to David Cone. He just keeps saying over and over again:
“in ny the fans anticipate the flow of the game better than anyone else.”
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
The Question Is
Why is AReyes batting at all????
by MetsFan4Decades on Jun 27, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope.
Jerry’s doesn’t have a whole lot of choices with what’s left on this team. We all know Castillo wasn’t playing 162 games. We have no Jose, so Cora has to play short. Doesn’t leave a lot of options. Could have put Tatis at short but not like he’s hitting either.
Sigh….
by MetsFan4Decades on Jun 27, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
But really...
Everyone knows AReyes is not a ML hitter. He’d be fine defensively at 2nd in a couple of games if the rest of the offense was getting it done.
We all know with those on the DL, this is what we’re stuck with. Really depressing….
by MetsFan4Decades on Jun 27, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Is he one of the guys now?
I hope to God that the answer is no.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
but how many 8th place hitters can you have in one lineup?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 27, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Brad Holt
abolutely sucked tonight. 0.1 innings and 5 runs.
'69 WS CHAMPS
+ '86 WS CHAMPS
+ '09 WS CHAMPS
= 164 WS CHAMPS
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BLEED IT!!!
by bleedin' orange and blue on Jun 27, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions
Stokes is awesome, let's never use him again
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
i wonder where this would end up on the list of all-time worst Junes in Mets history
The win loss record doesn’t capture the futility. After today they will be a misleading 9-14. Dropping 6 of 8 series. Outscored something like 97-125. Giving up 9 or more runs 5 times. It feels worse.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
I hear ya.
Although as a fan for over 40 years, there have been way worse seasons, let alone Junes…
by MetsFan4Decades on Jun 27, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
sure bt
depending on how you measure, this might rank somewhere. For instance some knuckleheads in the national media picked these chumps to go to the WS. Then there’s the sheer magnitude of injuries and the fact that all but two stars are on the DL.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 27, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
SI picked the Mets. Kiss of death….
by MetsFan4Decades on Jun 27, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Lets get Burnett the hell out of here.
It’s Phil Coke time.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
I'd like to see what Art Howe could do with this club
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
nah Art knew how to battle
willie had a better team. These guys are reminiscent of the Do we Lose Em and Howe Mets.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 27, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Art Howe had a worse team than this
2004 — Reyes, Matsui and Cameron all went down.
Gerald Williams, Wilson Delgado, Todd Zeile, Joe McEwing and Jason Phillips played everyday.
by All Shook Down on Jun 27, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
matsui?
that’s debatable. Reyes, Beltran, Putz > Reyes Matsui Kam. This team is in the Art Howe neighborhood is all I’m saying.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 27, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Man
Murph haven’t some kind of bad luck tongiht.
Kind of sums up this series so far…..
by MetsFan4Decades on Jun 27, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions
Damn
sorry Murph!
This has been a bad day. You just can’t buy a hit. Robbed thrice! Yeesh. Jerry will look at your line and say: “Well, ya failed to get a hit so your hand isn’t all that hot, your benched.”
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Burnett the last 2 games against us
14.0 IP, 5 hits, 0R, 7BB, 18K
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
This is brutal.
I freakin hate losing to the yanks. I losing to anyone but it really sucks when you see the team that beat you’s fans everyday.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
AJ Burnett's off to get his reward
a shower with Derek Jeter
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Misch, the face of the 2009 Mets
Has any other team made Ca$man look like more of a genius this season?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
if we lose all 3 games
something needs to be done
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 27, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions
Team pillowfight?
Nothing will get done…
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
We'll be in 3rd place by the end of the night.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
what?
trade K*zmir for Zambrano? Acquire Kris Benson?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 27, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I never thought I'd say this but
I want two runs here to make it a save situation so we can see Mariano Rivera. Who’d a thunk I’d be wishing to see him?
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
i don't
what if he gets his 500th save vs us
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 27, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Then we'd be a part of history
bad history, but history none the less.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Time for more ganji
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Why is Elmer Dessens on this team?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Same reason why Argenis Reyes is.
… and Jeremy Reed … and FMart … and ….
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Freaking pathetic
How can anyone say that we don’t need a bat and that we will survive this?
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Because even if we went out and got a bat NOW
we would be in the EXACT same place we were before Beltran went down. Stillrelying on solid starting pitching and timely hitting to win games.
Why waste the future of the team for the now that isn’t all that spectacular and one bat can’t change that, no matter how you slice it.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Yup.
Because it’s impossible to plug all the holes now. Just have to ride it out until the party starts to return from the DL.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jun 27, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
what party?
carlos might be gone for the season.reyes might not ever be the same and who knows what is wrong with beltran’s knee’s
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 27, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
And Delgado might be back in August and Beltran and Reyes might be back after the ASB and be fine. No way to know. If you trade the farm for 2 bats and they are back and ready to go, you’ve got a logjam at those positions.
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jun 27, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not saying waste the future.
Go out and get a Huff or DeRosa or someone to hold us over and give us some production. Both players are useful after all return from injury and it shouldn’t cost us any of our top 5 prospects.
I’d feel a lot better if we were in the situation before Beltran went down…we haven’t done shit since.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
I'm all for acquiring a salary dump type dude
But trading a dude like Gee or Antonini for a marginal upgrade isn’t the best use of resources.
by All Shook Down on Jun 27, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
and that's probably the way Omar will go anyway
since he just signed a freaking extension.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 27, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
and what are you willing to give up?
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Me personally...
I would give Shapiro what he wants for Victor Martinez. If it was some combination of Niese, Flores, Gee, Davis, Familia, Marte, Antonini, Murphy, Evans, I would to it now.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
but would you throw in Lance Broadway?
thats the question
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 27, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't trade used bubble gum for him
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
right down broadway
ang wright couldn’t shit with it
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
One. Lousy. Hit.
That pretty much says it all….
by MetsFan4Decades on Jun 27, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
kimberly jones
is a man.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Her photo on the WFAN site makes her look cute
What does she look like from the neck down?
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
lets just say she made Jorge Posada look handsome
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 27, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank god this is over
I’m going over to HBO and watch two boxer hopefully take each other’s head off. It’ll be cathartic for me.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Hopefully
We can salvage one game from this series tomorrow.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jun 27, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions
nice piece of scholarship that
never saw the word “we” spelled “wie” before.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 27, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i think it's beyond spellcheck.
don’t think that one is going on his college application.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 27, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Beyond embarrassing.
Holy shit. Forfeiting this game would have shown more heart.
We’ve been outhit 22-4 over 2 games. I don’t even want to watch tomorrow. This team should just quit already.
we have been outscored
30-1 going back to the 6th inning of the game nieve pitched
by JADDENHOPKINS on Jun 27, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no upside to this.
You can’t even completely blame Jerry Manuel. He has no freaking players. It’s not like I’m going to wake up tomorrow and see that he got canned to brighten up my day.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
it would brighten my day to see Art Howe replace him as interim
hell, they’re still probably paying him
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 27, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
burnett
had good stuff today, and tis is an awful ineup. I am not sure Argenis is even AAAA. Still, they just didn’t have good at bats even.
Yes!
3rd place can wait another day.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
how bout tomorrow?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jun 27, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
If anybody is still here and still cares ..
The Indians just traded Mark DeRosa to the Cards.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
giving up
ive just given up al hope in this team they continue to embarass me as a met fan there needs to be something we can do
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