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Meet the Mets

Add swine flu to the list of Met ailments. Fortunately, it appears as though the disease's spread has been limited.

Alex Cora is back and Ramon Martinez made Omar's decision easier by getting hurt in a slide last night.

Here's more Putz analysis. Matt Cerrone talks to Ted Berg about the struggling reliever.

The American Cancer Society is urging the Mets to go to their classic uniforms and make a difference in the process.

As the injuries continue to mount for the Mets, Fernando Martinez's chances of staying with the team increase.

Toby Hyde chats with Josh Thole.

Butch Huskey thanks the Mets for honoring him in their rotunda.

Mandatory Mustache ranks Bobby Valentine #8 for best Met mustaches

Around the NL East

Ken Rosenthal is reporting that the Nationals will draft Stephen Strasburg. Strasburg's coach, Tony Gwynncautions fans and the media on overhyping his guy.

If Strasburg ever does get to the Nationals, he will not be coached by Randy St. Claire, who was fired yesterday.

The Nationals still have a chance of making the playoffs, although it is becoming slimmer by the day. They kept hope alive last night by beating the Giants 10-5.

Former Met prospect and current Nat catcher Jesus Flores has a stress fracture in his shoulder that is putting the remainder of this season in jeopardy.

The Phillies beat up on their dream date Jake Peavy10-5, giving Antonio Bastardo his first major league victory. 

Philadelphia activated left handed reliever JC Romero after he completed his drug-related suspension. Sergio Escalona was demoted to triple-A to make room on the roster.

Florida second baseman Dan Uggla became the fastest second baseman in baseball history to hit 100 HRs and the Marlins beat the Brewers 10-3. Prior to the game, Florida welcomed back pitcher Anibel Sanchez from the DL.

The Braves came from behind in dramatic fashion to knock off the Cubs in extra innings. Atlanta was being no hit until the 7th.

Brave pitcher Tom Glavine had another good rehab start and says he's ready for the big leagues.

Atlanta has demoted center fielder Jordan Schafer to triple-A

Around MLB

Sports Illustrated has a great article on the value of trades. Pay attention Omar.

The City of Detroit has rejected a bid to make Tiger Stadium a historical landmark. The stadium will continue to be demolished.

The Brewers have released Met favorite Jorge Julio.

Randy Johnson is going for his 300th win tonight.

Outfielder Josh Hamilton is going to the DL.

Are the Yankees actually good at defense? Or just not committing errors?

Artificial turf fields are safe for players, still hurt the eyes, however.

 

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So should Reed start today?

Whether or not Beltran plays? Sheff is hurting and Reed as hit the ball well in pittsbrugh (2 doubles on monday, 3 hits last night), but jerry seems to be waivering on the “I play the hot hand” front.

Also, I feel a little nauseous that its June and I am asking if Jeremy Reed, career lifetime hitter of .261 (.684 OPS), should get more playing time. We need a bat ASAP.

by meigs1414 on Jun 3, 2009 10:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jerry's new thing

is to take the hot hand — unless the hot hand is named Santos — out of the lineup so as to preserve the hot hand’s confidence.

by jasondg on Jun 3, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This team seems snakebit of late...

The injuries plus the swine flu scare is unbelievable. I can’t remember anything like this in my nearly 40 years of rooting for the Mets… Hopefully Reyes and Beltran return ASAP, and I think Omar has to seriously find another bat, either at 1B or corner OF spot. I wish the Phillies would lose a few — how about Ibanez — are you kidding me? How is this guy having a career year at age 37??

by northernvatiger on Jun 3, 2009 10:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yay Thole

Yay the reveal of Joe Budd(en)

by Sokojoe on Jun 3, 2009 10:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Auto-links

Its funny because the auto-link of Tony Gwynn is to his son, the current player on the Padres, and not the HOFer, who is actually the coach of Strasburg.

by meigs1414 on Jun 3, 2009 10:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I'm learning

to deal with this new autotagging feature. I’m not a huge fan at this point. It’s creating some odd results for this format. I’m hoping to improve on it in the future.

by Joe Budd on Jun 3, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was a DJ in college

And your song, “Fire” was a club-banger. Didnt know you were a Mets fan, though.

by TBlz on Jun 3, 2009 10:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, all these injuries and illness is just unimaginable. You can’t even get on them for not winning the last two games (for the most part =P), because look at all the guys getting hurt. Who knows who ends up getting hurt tonight.

As for the news & notes, sad to hear about Flores’s season possibly ending. Of course there’s a sigh of relief, seeing as he could be a Met, this is the second time his season is ending early due to injury.

As for Randy St. Claire being fired, I always thought he would verbally abuse the pitchers out there. I was never there, but he was constantly yelling and extremely angry. Sure they can’t pitch.. God knows the Nats need a change.

by Tinathemetsgrl on Jun 3, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that is a great Butch Huskey tribute in the Citi Field Rotunda

except for all the jack asses making stupid guido posses in front of it. you know the look im talking about right? squatting or one one knee, head tilted to the side with a smirk, to armas outstretched with hands some fake gang symbols? yeah, those people were ruining my experience at the buitch huskey tribute.

All of the mets fans hope that we will not see the bad news mets ever again.

by kendynamo on Jun 3, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

in the enemy's lair

I was at Yankee Stadium last night (or as my mom advised me, “Don’t forget, the game is at the NEW Yankee Stadium.” thanks mom), taking my nephew to a game. Tickets courtesy of a family friend. Field level, section 126, row 15, aisle seats along third base line. Not Legends section but better setas than I have sat in for about 10 years.

My nephew, like me, is a Mets fan. Unfortunately, at 14, he hasn’t gotten beyond the David Wright is overrated, Omir Santos is clutch thing, but he is fairly well schooled (he made a snide comment to Wright’s babip to homer ratio).

When I was his age I was pretty anti-yankee, which developed as I got into teenage rivalry years (even younger, while still a Mets fan, I didn’t mind the Yakees,a nd was kind of fascinated by the whole Fritz Peterson/Mike Kekich wife and family swapping story). My nephew is more even-keeled than I was as a young teen.

Anyway, not a great game, although there were some brushback wars to liven it up.

On Yankee defense, Gardner made a nice play on a Chris Davis drive to deep center. He seems to have a good uzr in a limited sample in Centerfield. Moving melky to right to replace Abreu is an upgrade, although Melky was not a great cf, and Gardner is pretty good there. Certainly, texeira is good at first and they highlight that on the big screen, showing a lot of his plays before the game even started.

Both Arod (and Young on texas) seemed a step slow on grounders to their lefts, or they just gave up.

Oh, and someone about 100 feet from us took a bat that flew from Melky’s hands. Couldn’t see how bad but from the looks of surrounding faces, not great. Davis did the same to someone on the first base side.

Haven’t been to citifield yet, but I will make it a couple of times this year at least. Food wasn’t bad at yankee (Carl’s Junior steak sandwich-hey they even have apples and pears), but i hear citifield is better.

Oh, and I even had a Bushmills on the rocks.

by wobatus on Jun 3, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

When at Citi

go to shake shack and the bbq place. Both of them are great.

by meigs1414 on Jun 3, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also really liked the Taqueria

plus the line was way shorter. But yea, Shake Shack is the best.

by cjmulrain on Jun 3, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shake Shack is great

but you can get it elsewhere and the lines at Citi tend to be pretty long.

by JoshNY on Jun 3, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shake Shack

Been to the Shake Shack on 23rd street in madison park many times. BBQ joint must be Blue Smoke, same guy owns both. Yankee Stadium bbq is brother jimmy’s, which is ok for an ACC hoops game frat boy fest, but the ‘cue doesn’t stand up.

by wobatus on Jun 3, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think we've had this conversation around here

but again, Brother Jimmy’s is terrible BBQ. I’m really spiteful about it because It’s located right down the street of my GF’s apartment and I’m a huge BBQ fan (who isn’t.)

by Sokojoe on Jun 3, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Natty lights?

That wasn’t even good enough for our cheap beer in college. That distinction went to Keystone or (for some reason) the high life.

by meigs1414 on Jun 3, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what the hell is wrong w/ natty light?

nothing, that what.

All of the mets fans hope that we will not see the bad news mets ever again.

by kendynamo on Jun 3, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely...

All we drank at Providence College

I can appreciate that a place in the city sells it for cheap

by metsman07 on Jun 3, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big high life fan,

being an accountant, I find the cost/taste ratio of the high life beats out all similar priced beer. If the beer has a nickname, it’s usaully a bad sign.
Natural Lights = Natty/Natty light/Natty Ice/etc
Keystone = The Stones/Stone
Pabst Blue Ribbon = PBRs
That being said, my college days are over and now I’m a snobby asshole drinking this.

by Sokojoe on Jun 3, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Champagne of Beers

I suppose that’s really more of a title than a nickname. It still gets warmly received at parties with my friends, possibly because most of us don’t make a ton of money.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 3, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

High Life is great

And High Life Light is the best funneling beer there is.

by jasondg on Jun 3, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was our pong beer

until they lower the prices on the stones.

Ah, college, so many wasted nights.

by meigs1414 on Jun 3, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was at a party this past weekend

where dudes were playing pong with Dogfish IPA. The host basically shit his pants when he found out.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 3, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No mention of Busch Lite in this discussion

I guess I’m in the minority but that’s my cheapo beer of choice. High Life is a close second, which is enhanced their recent ad campaign. The day after feeling of Keystone is unbearable.

by James Kannengieser on Jun 3, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, those Stones' hangovers were awful

Especially when you played flag football at 2 pm the next day. Not good times

by meigs1414 on Jun 3, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Busch Lite isn't so bad...it's really cheap

We just prefered Natty for some weird reason

by metsman07 on Jun 3, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how about the 90 minute dogfish

Playing pong with that would degenerate fast.

by wobatus on Jun 3, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1 game = dunzo

Those put you on your ass quick

by metsman07 on Jun 3, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pong

I had never played pong until about 3 years ago. Back in the day, we might play quarters (or as one ex-navy guy who was about 5 years older than the rest of my college cohort said “navy men don’t play games with their drinkin’ son.”).

Anyway, a younger colleague at work invited me to a party at some bar on 87th and third I think, and I played. I was 15-20 years older than these people. And the first time I played I was making like half my shots, a few in a row at one point, and kinda dominated a few games. To much cheering. Not sure if these people were any good, or if half your shots isn’t great. But it seemed good at the time. Whereupon I stopped and haven’t played since. I don’t want to risk my rep.

by wobatus on Jun 3, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, it is poison

natty light out of a bottle though is perfectly acceptable to my pallet. i also enjoy a good champgane of beers. pbrs i can do with out.

best cheapo i ever was a guatamalan beer called Famosa. found it in a random bar when they ran out of pabst.

All of the mets fans hope that we will not see the bad news mets ever again.

by kendynamo on Jun 3, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah not a big pabst guy myself

but still the best beer is an open one.

by meigs1414 on Jun 3, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, agreed

altho i will say that i thought i was pulling a fast one when i reliezed i could get twice the number of hurricanes at double the alc % at the local safeway, only to wake up the next day to realize that its not malt liqour in those cans, but liquid death. never again will i drink that garbage. woof.

All of the mets fans hope that we will not see the bad news mets ever again.

by kendynamo on Jun 3, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

sounds like the time I drank “Phat Boy” 50 oz. bottles because it was more beer for the same price as a 40.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 3, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Try Buffalo, about 13 years ago

because that’s how long ago this was.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 3, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mmm, hurricanes, best tag line ever

“Brace Yourself for the Smooth Taste” Think about that for a second.

by Sokojoe on Jun 3, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of your tagline

Where is c101? I want to hear some infinite wisdom

by metsman07 on Jun 3, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who wouldnt

centerpede is a gold mine. someone needs to organize a panel of centereped, paperman and scotty. cerrone can moderate.

All of the mets fans hope that we will not see the bad news mets ever again.

by kendynamo on Jun 3, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Natty Bo

National Bohemia beer.

Mickey’s Big Mouth.

Genny Cream (Genesee).

Old Slowdogs. Old Milwaukee.

Ah, those were the days. Schlitz. PBR (Frank’s beer of choice in Blue Velvet).

Haffenreffer private Stock.

Kool Mule malt Likka. watch out for the Kick. Yay-ya.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Beer-Label—KOOL-MULE—Malt-Liquor—32oz._W0QQitemZ330297489310QQcmdZViewItem

by wobatus on Jun 3, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Natty Bo is good cheap beer

2 for $5 outside Camden Yards. Not bad.

by JoshNY on Jun 3, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

genny red is good for boozin

All of the mets fans hope that we will not see the bad news mets ever again.

by kendynamo on Jun 3, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+10000000000000000

For the Butch Huskey letter.

"I was so frustrated [Saturday], I [could have said] anything," ~Oliver Perez

by Lance Johnson on Jun 3, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Today's dose of Metsblog wisdom

…the Mets are missing an utley/victorino-type player and need this type of guy now more than ever… this why i believe Mark De Rosa should be the Mets top target on the trade market… he has utley-like qualities and can produce while playing all over the diamond…

Tyler Kepner of the New York Times relays the "Yankees Play Hard Index" that is posted in the Yankees Triple-A clubhouse.

…perhaps the Mets should make this mandatory reading and post it in their major league clubhouse…

by jasondg on Jun 3, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was such a terrible post on Metsblog.

We don’t need Utley/Victorino. We have our own guys who are obviously playing through pain…and playing pretty well at that.

by metsman07 on Jun 3, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um, I'd like Utley because he's a good player

I agree with your point with whole intangibles part of it, but Utley is, arguably, the best 2B in the game and an annual MVP candidate.

And again, I’d like Mark DeRosa, only because he can play a bunch of positions well and can hit. Clearly, I am not giving up the farm for him, but in a good deal I wouldn’t say no to DeRosa.

by meigs1414 on Jun 3, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The point I'm trying to make

Is that the Mets have a core that is just as good and in some ways better than the Phils. This whole grit argument needs to stop.

by metsman07 on Jun 3, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its trendy

Like the change-up of 8 years ago.

by TBlz on Jun 3, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I would take DeRosa in a good deal too.

I’m just tiring of all this media hype surrounding Utley and Victorino…clearly pissing intensity and the Mets cowering in big situations.

by metsman07 on Jun 3, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd take Derosa too

Not because he’s gritty and has “Utley -like qualities” but because he’s an above-average player (for the most part) who can play like 5 positions.

WTF does “Utley-like qualities” mean? Curses a lot? Looks like Jay Mohr? Shits out solid bricks of grission?

by jasondg on Jun 3, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lots of greasy-looking hair?

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 3, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's like the guy over at Metsblog who wrote the article (I think it's Nichols)

Just doesn’t understand that just because they are Chase Utley and Shane Victorino and they play for the Phils (!) that they have some magical power to make other players play with more intensity or ‘fire’

Do you think if the Mets had signed Dunn this offseason and he was hitting bombs for us like he is hitting bombs for the Nats…would people care if he wasn’t an ‘intensity’ guy? I would hope not

by metsman07 on Jun 3, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dunn Hates Baseball

Someone at Metsblog doesn’t understand something obvious? You don’t say.

by jasondg on Jun 3, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I'm the one missing the joke...haha

I don’t think Dunn hates baseball…he did play in the WBC afterall.

He just doesn’t piss intensity like Vic Torino.

by metsman07 on Jun 3, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would people care?

No doubt that some people would. I mean, look at the start Beltran has had to this season (hell, or pretty much every season he’s had here), and he still gets called out routinely and predictably for not having fire/emotion/heart/grission/husart/etc.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 3, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

championship = intangibles

and when you havent won in a while, intangibles > tangibles.

which is why trent dilfer > dan marino.

All of the mets fans hope that we will not see the bad news mets ever again.

by kendynamo on Jun 3, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If (when) the Mets win the WS

Wright will be thought of like Chase Utley. If he starts using some hair grease.

by Mount17 on Jun 3, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually think Dilfer is the exception

People still thought he sucked after he won

by metsman07 on Jun 3, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

which is why hes great for blowing up the whole championship intangibles argument

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by kendynamo on Jun 3, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Utley-like qualities

Nothing wrong with swearing in public

by JoshNY on Jun 3, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GREAT NEWS!

Beltran is in Pittsburgh and is going to suit up, play CF, and bat 3rd.

by EMSfan9 on Jun 3, 2009 4:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

heard that before

Let me know if that is the same at 7pm.

by meigs1414 on Jun 3, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

more bitching

reed has five hits in two days at pitt and manuel sits him even though sheff could use the day to rest his knee. awesome.

by meigs1414 on Jun 3, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's the perfect time to give Sheff two games off...

With Beltran in the lineup tonight and Reed hitting well…let Sheff sit until Friday.

by metsman07 on Jun 3, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sheff doesn't want out

I agree he should sit, but he doesn’t want to.

by EMSfan9 on Jun 3, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I guess he's earned the ability to pronounce himself healthy

But it would be a shame if he played in Pittsburgh and then was out against the Phils

by metsman07 on Jun 3, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I’d much rather have a healthy Sheff for the Phils, but then again…Reyes is coming back and we REALLY need to win these next two games

by EMSfan9 on Jun 3, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like

The game may be rained out. Sheff may get that day off anyway!

by EMSfan9 on Jun 3, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Emil Brown Up As Well

To replace Ramon Martinez.

by Joe Budd on Jun 3, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vintage Bobby V

He tells the story about “inventing the wrap” in his unique style, feigning humility while subtly reminding everyone exactly how brilliant he is:

…and people say that they’ve never heard of a wrap before then so they started saying that I invented the wrap. Now I don’t know…

I’m surprised he didn’t follow it up with a story about an unnecessary double-switch.

by Zwill on Jun 3, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glavine has been released by the Braves

His velocity is apparently down even further.

by Joe Budd on Jun 3, 2009 6:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this

makes me happy

by cjmulrain on Jun 3, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

kinda sad

One of those hung on too long stories. He’s going to the Hall. Hard to say how he did it. Throwback to the era when guys like early wynn could survive and thrive striking out so few guys. I know why Mets fans, me included, have a hard time loving this guy. But respect.

by wobatus on Jun 3, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Hard to say how he did it."

1990s-Braves six-foot-wide strike zone?

by JoshNY on Jun 4, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually

was a pretty big Glavine fan, but I was at Game 162, and it was easily one of the worst experiences of my life. That, coupled with his casual dismissal and resigning with the Braves really turned me against him completely.

by cjmulrain on Jun 4, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was at 161

so that just made 162 even more awful.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 4, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're telling me

That god-damn knubber that Hoover hit up the third base line. Damn bastard! So close to that no-hitter.

by meigs1414 on Jun 4, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was at Pedro's last start I believe it was

They beat the Cubs. Church’s matador slide. Hoff-power went 5 for 5, or something crazy. Really thought they’d pull it out last year.

by wobatus on Jun 5, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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