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The 43-year-old Glavine...proclaimed himself ready to pitch in the majors again. Instead, the Braves cut him.

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and now the've traded for Nate McLouth.

Atlanta just got a whole lot better. Will be interesting to see if he plays CF or RF.

by twon8 on Jun 3, 2009 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

They got a whole lot better. It’ll be interesting to see how they handle this. They didn’t trade anyone on the active roster, so someone else has to go down. I imagine they’ll send Schafer down to work some things out and put Nate in CF, mixing and matching with Anderson, Diaz, and Francoeur in the corners.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 3, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

0-5 with a 15 plus ERA in Sep 2007

For all the grief everybody else on this team has gotten the last two years, you could argue that Tom Glavine alone cost the Mets a playoff spot in 2007.

by Endys Game on Jun 3, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup, I've heard this point a few times

If he has a decent start in that last game the Mets make the playoffs and David Wright wins the MVP. Instead, we get some backwards Back to the Future 2 type evil alternate reality where Jimmy Rollins won the MVP, the Phillies won a World Series, and David Wright is somehow a polarizing figure in the NY media.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 3, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wright was set to be the new Jeter

instead he’s the new…I don’t even know. Don Mattingly maybe? Even Mattingly was loved though (which is really strange, isn’t it? Aren’t NY ballplayers supposed to be judged by rings and rings alone. Why is Mattingly exempted from this?)

by cjmulrain on Jun 5, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because he's a Yankee.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 5, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

but

ARod defies that. I was listening to the FAN on my drive back to DC yesterday (bad decision), and the host was rightfully hammering Yankees fans for booing ARod Wednesday night. Someone called up and said he’s not a True Yankee, and defined True Yankee as someone who wins World Series championships. The host didn’t bring it up, but I so badly wanted to call and ask if that means Mattingly wasn’t a True Yankee, and if they should unretire his number.

by cjmulrain on Jun 5, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, man, you should have done it.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 5, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, Tom Glavine.

Metsblog argued we should sign him…

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 3, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Today?

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 3, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jun 3, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

mmmyeah . . .

that’s pretty nutty.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jun 3, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

No fucking way

They need to castrate metsblog so they can’t reproduce.

Ignoring the craptular job he did in the final game of the 2007 season, he never looked right after he won 300 in August of that year. He was done then and that was 22 months ago. And he’s had two surgeries since then.

You guys already know this, I’m just angry and perplexed by the stupidity.

by meigs1414 on Jun 4, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd rather have Pedro

And I don’t want Pedro at all.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 4, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll sign him

for as many dollars as he got outs in the final game of 2007. A disgrace

by Endys Game on Jun 3, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I have no love for Glavine given his Met career

His five years with the Mets are a perfect bell curve with two lousy years surrounding two average years surrounding one good year. He wasn’t worth the money they paid him and he ended his tenure about as terribly as anyone in the history of the organization.

Having said all that, he deserves a better finish than this. He’s a Hall of Famer, a 300-game winner and a member of one of the greatest pitching staffs in baseball history. He deserves better than an outright release.

by Zwill on Jun 3, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Yep

An argument against bringing Petey in for the 5th spot was that you couldn’t just release him if he didn’t have it. This is a pretty cold thing.

by SupT on Jun 3, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not exactly--

the Braves didn’t even let Glavine go out there and suck. He rehabbed, rehabbed some more, declared himself ready, and they just released him without letting him sink or swim.

by jasondg on Jun 3, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I mean, the move in this case was probably just to cut ties with him earlier. But I think they signed him under the understanding that if he was the least effective starter, he was the guy who was going to get the boot to make room for Hanson. He hasn’t even been healthy enough to play, and even though he rehabbed and rehabbed, Hanson is ready now, and from a pure baseball standpoint, is a far superior pitcher. It was kinda scummy, but I don’t think the intention was not to give him a chance, and I think he understood he wasn’t going to have much rope if he was ineffective or couldn’t keep himself on the field.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 3, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like Glavine at all

and so it doesn’t bother me in the least. As far as I’m concerned, he got his just desserts. He consistently and embarrassingly longed to be a Brave when he was here, and only came back to us in ‘07 because Schuerholz didn’t want him.

by jasondg on Jun 4, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha, agree with that for sure

I wanted to like him after he was the only guy this side of Steve Trachsel to manage 30 starts in 2006, but he didn’t ever give us anything else to hang onto aside from some bad memories.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jun 4, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

he was awesome in the 2006 NLCS

I was at that game. I was also at his first and last starts as a Met. I pretty much hit the 3 most extreme points on the Glavine bell curve.

by cjmulrain on Jun 5, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

As always, it was about the money

I can’t see any other reason for this. As per Ken Rosenthal:

Glavine was to be paid $1 million for his first day on the active roster, $1.25 million for 30 days on the roster and another $1.25 million for 90 days on the roster, bringing the total possible value of the deal to $4.5 million.

Frank Wren claims that his velocity was down in extended ST games but allegedly he was topping out at 86MPH, which is as hard as I can remember him throwing a few years ago for the Mets. He’s probably not a major league pitcher anymore but we knew that before the season started, right? Why bring him back and put the club and him through this ugly ordeal?

by Zwill on Jun 4, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

This really would be a fitting end to his career.

-In 2002, he had that contentious contract negotiation with the Braves when they refused to guarantee him a third year. With the ludicrous offer from the Mets and his reputation as a “solid union guy” hanging in the balance, Glavine took the money much to the chagrin of John Schuerholz.

2007 - 1/3 IP. Enough said.

-And now this in 2009.

by All Shook Down on Jun 4, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

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