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Sweet.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
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by squid92 on Jul 14, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

$736 mil A.P. (after Perez)

That’s really ridiculous though. He could have bought the damn Phillies and banished them from our presence.

Say it with me now, Freddie: diversification!

Who the hell puts $700 mil in to any investment without a tangible product?

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 14, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

The fact that

~$700 million was handed over to a guy whose books were audited by an accounting firm that doesn’t perform audits is beyond laughable. If I owned even $500 in stock of a company, I’d atleast glance over the auditor’s opinion on the financial report and Google the firm performing the audit to make sure it’s legit.

by James Kannengieser on Jul 14, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a (fellow?) auditor

I couldn’t agree more. But I’m sure if Wilpon or anyone of his investors questioned why Madoff was using a questionable “auditor,” he would reply that he was either saving costs by hiring them and thus saving his clients money or was engaging in very aggressive positions that only a pushover auditor would allow in an effort to make them more money. With Madoff being seen as a genius by some, I think his clients would let it slide as long as the returns kept rolling in.

by Sokojoe on Jul 14, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought I had read

that investigators had recovered enough of the money that most of the losses would be able to be repaid? I assume though that this would be the amount of the original investment. The $700m number King is talking about might be original investment, or might be what Bernie’s reports were showing the accounts to be “worth” at the end, which would have been what Wilpon thought he was worth.

Obviously during the winter, they wouldn’t have known if they’d get anything back.

by SupT on Jul 14, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I think they've lowered the estimate on total $$ lost

after factoring in what some people got back. I’d be surprised if Freddie didn’t get any of his investment back. And if that $700 million is what he lost after he got his ‘dividends’, then he’s truly stupid for giving any one person that much money to handle and not doing any research.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 14, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, this $700m number is most defintiley imaginary

since wilpon was a close friend of madoff and probably in on this scheme from the beginning he was probably making butt loads moeny with maddoff for a while. of course that money he was “earning” was really other peoples money that madoff was essentially stealing and dispersing to his older clients. now wilpon and the rest of the early investors are going to claim that they were duped and that they “lost” all the money they invested with madoff, which is a lot of bs. theyre not disputing these huge numbers when they get reported because if it becomes known that they profited from this scam and new it was illegal then they will suffer even greater penalties and even go to jail. when youre involved in a ponzi scheme, you can either lose money legally or make money illegally.

thats whats not getting reported. yes billions were invested but besides the money spent by madoff and what he had in his bank account, the rest of the money was either legally lost in the market or illegally paid back to the “investors”. so the original friends of madoff were the ones that madoff had to pay back, which is why he started those funnel accounts that he needed to steal from so he could pay these people back.

wilpon may end up getting screwed royally on this whole deal, but not for the reasons that are getting reported in the post.

here is a column a while back from the wsj that explains some more.

Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.

by kendynamo on Jul 16, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Madoff is a sociopath

He wasn’t letting anyone in on the scheme to steal the money with him

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Jul 16, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh

That’s chump change

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Jul 14, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

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