Open Thread: Mets vs Pirates
by Eric Simon on Jul 2, 2009 12:02 PM EDT
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New York Mets at Pittsburgh Pirates, Jul 2, 2009 12:35 PM EDT
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Hey Jerry: Tatis sucks!
I like the guy, but he’s been awful. Do not bat him anywhere but the bottom of the order if he must play.
Why the hell wouldn’t you bat Evans 5th?
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 12:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dare I say
I actually like our lineup better!
by TheBigStapler on Jul 2, 2009 12:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Redding wasn't pitching,
I’d agree.
by David G on Jul 2, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, I think you dare...sans the black hole in the 5th spot.
This and we probably have the pitching advantage in each of the 3 games in Philly.
The AAAA Mets are legit.
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by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently not
Ah, well.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
by Prince on Jul 2, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Redding and Maholm just now trotting to BP for warmups
But no official knowledge yet.
by TheBigStapler on Jul 2, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're in a rain delay in Pittsburgh
The radar seems to suggest it might be under an hour. The predictions are that this is the last rain before evening, hopefully we can play the game and GTFO with a win before the rain really starts coming down.
"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-
by future on Jul 2, 2009 12:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Warming up...
Underway shortly.
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by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And it looks like its pouring
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope all the rain
convinces Jerry not to bunt so much.
by TheBigStapler on Jul 2, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think quite the opposite
The wet ground will deaden the ball making bunting better!!!
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The typical 6 pitch Castillo at bat followed by a weak grounder
by njmetfan12 on Jul 2, 2009 1:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Castillo
is actually a very nice right handed bat. It is hitting lefty that becomes an issue.
"It's like the old phrase goes.....The balls in your court now Mr.Church, so you take that ball, you dribble it up the court and....................................... get a layup"
- Keith Hernandez
by nrmax88 on Jul 2, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is it a rain delay?
my gameday is funky.
by Pat Andriola on Jul 2, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Third batter, 1 pitch to David and the tarp’s back on the field.
by TheBigStapler on Jul 2, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
unfortunately
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good, I'll take a 2 hour delay and no more Maholm
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by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Quoth Howie Rose,
“Hope Evan Roberts is still in the studio because this is gonna be a long, long game.”
by TheBigStapler on Jul 2, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh man
I was thinking the game would be over by 3:30, allowing me to watch all of it before I go to work at 4. Oh well—-maybe it’ll still be going on when I get off at 9!
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
by Prince on Jul 2, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh my god
Howie and Wayne are talking about a “Furries” convention in the hotel in Pittsburgh, trying to figure out what the hell they are all about!
by TheBigStapler on Jul 2, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's hilarious
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never thought
I’d ever see “Furries” mentioned on any Baseball related site.
"I was so frustrated [Saturday], I [could have said] anything," ~Oliver Perez
by Lance Johnson on Jul 2, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Check Kevin Burkhardt's Twitter
if you want to see a lovely photo. Here.
by Zwill on Jul 2, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's funny because
I’m in Brooklyn and there is not a rain drop in the sky
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 2, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Me too and it was raining pretty hard about an hour ago
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
It’s overcast in CT, but no rain. I was surprised when I turned on the TV and it was delayed.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
by Prince on Jul 2, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crap
Only set my DVR for 4 hours. Will it start back up in the next 20 minutes?
by David G on Jul 2, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It might
According to weather.com, it’ll just be cloudy in Pitt by 2:00.
"I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually inverse in proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
by Prince on Jul 2, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeez. I expected to listen to the game at work, and maybe catch the end on the radio on the way home, but we have a half day, so I’m gonna get out by 2…..I could be home before the game starts.
by ljshorty89 on Jul 2, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
rey ordonez
just broke his record 101 game errorless streak
by guy endore-kaiser on Jul 2, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Francesa says WFAN rejoining the mets at 1:45 so maybe soon
by TheBigStapler on Jul 2, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great...Lets go Mets!
This would be a nice game to have going into Philly.
by metsman07 on Jul 2, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome. It would suck to have a rain makeup rained out again…..
Hopefully we can go to Philly with a 2 game winning streak.
by ljshorty89 on Jul 2, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Are they playing “Start Me Up” by the Stones? Is that meant as a way of pleading with the weather Gods? If not its just some good ol’ fashioned irony.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on Jul 2, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Alright, lets go.
Poppa needs a winning streak!
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let him swing 3-0
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by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
tatis hitting 5th
why?
"I used to be legit. I was too legit. I was too legit to quit. but now I'm not legit. I'm unlegit. And for that reason, I must quit."
by jaronson5 on Jul 2, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Because he knows how to get hit by a pitch
by ljshorty89 on Jul 2, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And we all thought Tatis was useless!!
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
church and evans should be switched
in the lineup
by Pat Andriola on Jul 2, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Atta boy Tatis!
That’s what we need from you.
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by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Walk, walk, walk, walk
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by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
God damnit
This team sucks so much with the bases loaded
by Syler on Jul 2, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you really expect us to score with the bases loaded?
by ljshorty89 on Jul 2, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least we expected that
"I used to be legit. I was too legit. I was too legit to quit. but now I'm not legit. I'm unlegit. And for that reason, I must quit."
by jaronson5 on Jul 2, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bases loaded and 3-0
and you cannot get the run in, Ryan Church? Ugh.
by Pat Andriola on Jul 2, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shocker...
It would have been nice to have a big inning
by metsman07 on Jul 2, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We needed something out of that for The Beard
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by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bases loaded, 3-0 count
yep, that seems about right
by Rigsay on Jul 2, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Church cannot hit lefties
he was doing it pre-concussion but hasn’t figured them out at all since
by Rigsay on Jul 2, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Church versus lefties:
.167/.194/.244
Hit him eighth.
by Pat Andriola on Jul 2, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You would think
based on the law of averages that someone on the Mets will eventually come through w/ the bases loaded…not this time.
by northernvatiger on Jul 2, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We're just saving them up for September
that’s how statistics works, right?
by TheBigStapler on Jul 2, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
at least someone likes the bunt as much as we do.
by Pat Andriola on Jul 2, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If we cannot beat a lineup that has Delwyn Young batting 3rd and some dude named Garret Jones 5th
there is no hope
by Rigsay on Jul 2, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Walk Timmy!
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by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why the hell is tim redding swinging at
a 3-1 pitch?
wow.
by Pat Andriola on Jul 2, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
tim redding looks great today....
"I used to be legit. I was too legit. I was too legit to quit. but now I'm not legit. I'm unlegit. And for that reason, I must quit."
by jaronson5 on Jul 2, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow redding is lucky that stayed in the park
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 2, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
uuuugh Redding you stink
the ump gave you an extra strike and he still walked em
by Rigsay on Jul 2, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Redding disagrees
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Redding is Basura
It’s just that the bar is so damned low for him. 7 innings and 4 runs given up is considered masterpiece theatre.
He’s doubly damaging, because if he sucked a little more he’d lose his spot, but he sucks just the right amount to keep it.
by David G on Jul 2, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All while Niese is pitching gems in Buffalo
by TheBigStapler on Jul 2, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
time to give him a shot
but they will say Redding threw well against the Dodgers last time, hence another start
by Rigsay on Jul 2, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Niese have to throw a no hitter in Buffalo to get a call up??
i mean Tim Redding is on this team, Tim Redding. Niese is better than Tim Redding
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hoe c0ome their AAA lineup hits rope after rope...
…and our AAA lineup hits weak grounder after weak grounder?
by Ballonthewall on Jul 2, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is hilarious
The furry talk, no the game.
by Mount17 on Jul 2, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gary and Keith talking about Furries in the hotel now
I wonder if they ever watch Entourage?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Give me a break
This guy is done. Get me Niese or Figgie
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hahaha anyone just hear
“hey tim, try to keep him in the ballpark” from some fan?
by Rigsay on Jul 2, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Redding loses today
and does not pitch well against this pitt lineup, he’s got to be dropped from the rotation, right? Right? Even if it’s for Ollie and not Niese.
Damn, now I’m hoping he gets rocked but the Mets come back and win (which I know is an impossible series of events).
by David G on Jul 2, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Redding, Nieve, and Dessens
Are all people who could move somewhere to make room for Niese, Perez, and eventually Maine.
by TheBigStapler on Jul 2, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
until nieve gets rocked
i can’t put him on that list
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 2, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you kidding me
ahead 0-2 and you walk him.just bring niese up make him the 5th starter
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 2, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
are you kidding me
you CAN not hit him with the bases loaded
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 2, 2009 2:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whoever starts for the Cyclones tonight>>>>Tim Redding
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to that game
so I’ll let you know tomorrow ha ha
by TheBigStapler on Jul 2, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
Ollie would at least have 3 k’s by now.
by TheBigStapler on Jul 2, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can they release a player while he's pitching?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Wright
you don’t cut off a throw unless you know you have him…..idiot
by Rigsay on Jul 2, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tatis had no shot at throwing him out at home
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's the Mets' record when Redding Starts?
Like 1-6, 1-4 anyone know? It feels like 1-5.
by David G on Jul 2, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You suck buddy, no 2 ways about it.
Say it with me now D….F….A
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by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Redding -- a Washington Nationals reject
’nuff said!
by northernvatiger on Jul 2, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's Omar's boy
a good 2.5 mill Id say
by Rigsay on Jul 2, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We load the bases and cannot score.
Our opponents load the bases and have a field day!
by northernvatiger on Jul 2, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Should have rode the bus together today...
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by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What's the rule with draft picks.
If we pick in the first 15, we can’t lose that pick no matter who we sign right?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If he bunts, I quit.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how bored are Keith and Gary this week
haunted hotels, rubber cleats v.s. metal, hot dog races, dress-up conventions
by Rigsay on Jul 2, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that guy Stocks cleans the shoes not the clubhouse kids
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes would rather hear more about 1967 stratomatic
by Ballonthewall on Jul 2, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we need a bomb from sheffield
"I used to be legit. I was too legit. I was too legit to quit. but now I'm not legit. I'm unlegit. And for that reason, I must quit."
by jaronson5 on Jul 2, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
have no fear
after the game we’ll hear about how their only 2.5 out and are just a good week and another abysmal Philly week away from being in the race (even though 22 other teams are ahead of us in the WC)
by Rigsay on Jul 2, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tell me we don't need a bat Omar...
Enough is enough…bring me Dunn and Rios. I want them in Philadelphia tonight.
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by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he does not want to trade anyone
if the nats offered me dunn for parnell and murph i will do that
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 2, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know why?
That damn contract extension. Omar needs a rocket up his ass.
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by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We've given Redding 9 starts
That’s just giving games away. Just like ’07 when Brian Lawrence got 6 starts and they lost 5 of them. Inexcusable.
Brian Lawrence ’07: 6 games starts, 5 Met losses, ERA of 6.83
Tim Redding ’09: 9 game starts, 6 or 7? Met losses, ERA of 6.65 (and rising fast)
by David G on Jul 2, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
redding is so bad
"I used to be legit. I was too legit. I was too legit to quit. but now I'm not legit. I'm unlegit. And for that reason, I must quit."
by jaronson5 on Jul 2, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Adam LaRoche: "Your the crappy team, bitch".
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know you can't win every game
but I’m not really having fun listening to this!
by TheBigStapler on Jul 2, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"being a number 5 starter is never easy"-Gary
yeah when people are pleased with you being average, tough life
by Rigsay on Jul 2, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would think it would be quite taxing, gobbling so much dick at one time.
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by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why is our number 5 pitching 3rd
johan
pelf
nieve
livan
redding
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 2, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did he say that?
Hahhahaha, come on Cohen, don’t sugarcoat the suckitude. I would argue it’s kind of nice when the bar is so low. An ERA of 5 or under is considered okay for a 5th starter.
by David G on Jul 2, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The solution to the problem since Omar apparently hates Niese
Aroldis Chapman is supposed to fly in this week. Give him a 60 million dollar contract. Send him to Binghamton for a few starts. Kill Cut Kill Tim Redding
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On a side note,
I’d really like to see Chapman signed but somehow I don’t think we could, even with the 3rd highest budget.
by TheBigStapler on Jul 2, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
enough, enough, yank him, release him, end of discussion
by Ballonthewall on Jul 2, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FUCKING TAKE HIM OUT ALREADY
DROWN IN CAMEL SHIT YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF CRAP
by Syler on Jul 2, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, Robinson Diaz and Garrett Jones with multiple XBh's
by Rigsay on Jul 2, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You beat me to the punch...
Can’t believe (well actually I can) we’re getting smoked by the likes of these scrubs…
by northernvatiger on Jul 2, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, at this point, I would leave him out there for 150 pitches
Send a message
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by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice start tim
way to follow Big pelf’s gem with this
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 2, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This will be it for Redding
9 starts and an era of about 7, how many chances can he get?!! I’d take Brandon Knight over this clown if they are so reluctanct on Niese.
by David G on Jul 2, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would rather see
a young guy like niese get the chance to pitch up here then some washed up pitcher
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 2, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well boys i can't think of a more depressing scenario than having to go back to Pitt to make up a game
have that game delayed only to get pounded by the Pirate’s AAA lineup, with Philly and the Dodgers looming
by Rigsay on Jul 2, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we will now waste the next two hours watching us get men on and failt to deliver...the shit this team puts its fans thru is unconscionable
by Ballonthewall on Jul 2, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's hard to believe
A journeyman Nationals starting pitcher could not become successful for us. Just a shock.
by David G on Jul 2, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the fucking nats let him go
he had a under .500 record last year as a starting pitcher.why the fuck would Omar sign him
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 2, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thought process was:
“If he went 10-11 for the Nationals, he’ll be 15-7 for us!”
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by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the good news is redding kept his ERA below 7...it's now only 6.99
by Ballonthewall on Jul 2, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's still higher than Brian Lawrence in '07
with more starts under his belt, too.
by David G on Jul 2, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe that feature they ran on redding's between starts preparation spooked him
by Ballonthewall on Jul 2, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They should have followed him into the bathroom to watch him dump
That’s what he does when he pitches.
by David G on Jul 2, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what the hell was that
who wants to see tim redding during the day
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 2, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flushing Fizzle?
Who the f—k do the Pirates think they are?
by Syler on Jul 2, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
its on a bottle cap
probably supposed to be like a soda flavor
by Rigsay on Jul 2, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Maholm is smart
he’ll walk the next two batters
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Early in the count, yes
After x-2, he protects the plate reasonably well
by Michkin on Jul 2, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just take a freakin' chance going home
does it really matter
by Rigsay on Jul 2, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When you're down by 5 runs
Yes. You can’t grind out runs through base running.
by TheBigStapler on Jul 2, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bases loaded no outs
the inning will end 5-0
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I will put a week-long moratorium on Omir Santos jokes
if he comes through here.
by TheBigStapler on Jul 2, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My prediction - 1 run this inning
hope I’m wrong
by Shivling on Jul 2, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to wager on a
santos DP. Need a Vegas sportsbook, stat.
by David G on Jul 2, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Omir is gonna see three pitches this at bat
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good bye Tim redding
Second half staff: Johan, pelf, Livan, revitalized ollie (?), can maine make it back (?), Niese. Oswalt? :)
by wobatus on Jul 2, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i would like to see
johan
pelf
nieve
livan
niese.
put ollie in the pen
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 2, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mets .200/.242/.325 w/bases loaded
before today
by blains2000 on Jul 2, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"eat your heart out Bucos fans"
maybethis guy is a Met fan? Either way he’s sloshed
by Rigsay on Jul 2, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
positively shocking
who could’ve possibly predicted that his hot streak would end and he would regress to being an unproductive player?
by JoshNY on Jul 2, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot who said it here
but I can’t wait to see Omir swing at a pitch thrown behind him
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ahem
(I don’t want to sound like a jerk for linking myself, but since nobody gives credit to remembers who said what.)
by Michkin on Jul 2, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You found that rather quick, didn't you?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I used the search button
Were you implying anything else?
by Michkin on Jul 2, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, I didn't even know there was a search button
I thought you just kept open all the posts you wrote that you thought were smart or witty in case of a situation like this.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol seriously? I'd never guess someone thought of doing that.
by Michkin on Jul 2, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that I do it in case someone wants to reference my posts or comment on it.
It’s not like I’ve had this () open for two days now.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was supposed to be this link in that parenthesis.
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why isn't the link thing working?
anyway:
http://www.amazinavenue.com/2009/6/30/930707/mets-community-prospect-list-6#17605913
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
me too
i bet the bullpen gives up some more runs
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 2, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeez, guys, try to have some fun
by TheBigStapler on Jul 2, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Murphy!!
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Santos
is total, complete garbage. But then, some of us knew that.
by jasondg on Jul 2, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who knew a left handed hitter could get a hit off of a left handed pitcher?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WHAT!!!
somebody tell Jerry quick
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 2, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry is ridiculous. How can we have a man running this team who is so one dimensional.
He plays by the “books” as it were. No compromises can be made. He has no imagination and no gameplan. What a useless piece of crap.
by dulciusEXasperis on Jul 2, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maholm hasn't been good
imagine if we had a few hiters and a decent starter today
by Rigsay on Jul 2, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we would be winning
but tim redding was pitching
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 2, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
ya knew he wasn’t gonna hit a sac fly
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jerry was right about one thing...
Omir really does have a short swing.
by guy endore-kaiser on Jul 2, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Omir's stay in the majors
should be as short as his swing.
by David G on Jul 2, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here it comes...
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Castillo
That’s why it’s not all about OBP. You have to have the ability to drive in a run. The guy has always been abysmal when it comes to rbis. You can say it’s not his “job”, but dammit it’s everyone’s job.
by David G on Jul 2, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
aren't getting on base and driving a run in that situation basically one and the same?
are you saying it would be bad if Castillo singled or walked there? or that it would be fine if Wright GIDPed because he gets RBIs at other times?
by JoshNY on Jul 2, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
I’m saying he’s less likely to get on base in those situations, because he’s a slap hitter and pitchers will challenge him with strikes in those situations. And he’s less likely to drive in a run with a sac fly, because he doesn’t hit it deep enough.
by David G on Jul 2, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting theory
but it’s simply not true.
Luis Castillo’s career OBP: .367
Luis Castillo’s career OBP with runners in scoring position: .368
Luis Castillo’s career OBP with men on first and third: .374
by JoshNY on Jul 2, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
+1 for factitude
Facts trump opinions.
by anonymous on Jul 2, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah
I had missed this discussion.
Well, how about this: Luis’s career obp with no one on base is .371. You are afding that into his career overall obp. So a slight but meaningless reduction in his obp with risp.
But his slugging with no one on is .366. With men on it is .333. With risp it is .332. I dunno, maybe pitchers still pitch around him because they know a slappy single may result in a run. I had thought this was the crux of the later discussion. Cstillo doesn’t drive in many runs. His ba with risp is .274, his career ba with no one on is .299. He doesn’t hit doubles, and some of hits are infield singles.
Moreover, Castillo percentage of runs driven in times plate appearances with men on base, aside from driving himself in with a homer, is .149. For, David Wright, for example, it is .245.
And yes, flaws with that, and yes, Wright hits into more DPs. I think there are degrees to which you all have points to make.
by wobatus on Jul 2, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have been happy with a walk
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem isn't Slappy.
He is what he is. We don’t have enough bats and every situation where we have men on is of such importance. If this were a different time, we could just shrug it off and get em next inning.
But we can’t
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good job Fudd
Let’s get some runs dammit!
by meigs1414 on Jul 2, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you Cora.
Now lets fucking go.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hey, Alex Cora just got to second base on one hit
is that allowed? watching the Mets so much, I’m not really sure
by JoshNY on Jul 2, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
David Wright
keepin’ that BABIP up!
by TheBigStapler on Jul 2, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bad baserunning by Cora
If the guy miraculously makes that catch you can walk back to 2nd
by Rigsay on Jul 2, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
big sheff
"I used to be legit. I was too legit. I was too legit to quit. but now I'm not legit. I'm unlegit. And for that reason, I must quit."
by jaronson5 on Jul 2, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Only cause it's either that or a double play
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Evans were hitting behind him, I would do it.
Tough with a lefty up there, Maholm is really tough on them.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sheff!
would it kill Tatis or Evans to go yard, just once in awhile?
by Rigsay on Jul 2, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good, get freaking pissed and kill this team
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man
now I am REALLY pissed they kept running redding out there.
by wobatus on Jul 2, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He was out at first
I think
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
pleaseeee
no DP, Church
"I used to be legit. I was too legit. I was too legit to quit. but now I'm not legit. I'm unlegit. And for that reason, I must quit."
by jaronson5 on Jul 2, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nah
But he JUST avoided the double play
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Squeeze
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
by AnthonyR on Jul 2, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
CHUUUURCH
"I used to be legit. I was too legit. I was too legit to quit. but now I'm not legit. I'm unlegit. And for that reason, I must quit."
by jaronson5 on Jul 2, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Geez, Tatis has to sit
It is not happening for him this year
by blains2000 on Jul 2, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
seriously.
stick Murph at first and Evans in LF
by dulciusEXasperis on Jul 2, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 2, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs