Tony Bernazard Is A Loose Cannon
by Eric Simon on Jul 22, 2009 1:35 PM EDT
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PrintUncle Tony's at it again:
The Binghamton Mets clubhouse nearly turned into a scene out of WWE Raw recently, when VP for player development Tony Bernazard removed his shirt and challenged the Double-A players to a fight during a postgame tirade, multiples sources told the Daily News.
Bernazard particularly went after middle infield prospect Jose Coronado, using a slang term associated with a woman's anatomy, a source indicated.
Nothing sets an example for model behavior like running around topless while slinging profanities at minors. As the story goes, Bernazard was upset with some of the Binghamton Mets players, most notably Coronado, for underage drinking. As with any sort of kerfuffle, I'm sure there's more to the story than our anonymous source is letting on, but whatever precipitated Bernazard's actions hardly justified this manner of behavior. For his part, Omar Minaya is doing what comes so naturally to him: playing dumb.
"I know he did have a team meeting with them," Minaya told the Daily News. "It was not a 'you-guys-have-been-great meeting.' I know he spoke to them in a stern voice. But as far as what he was wearing, what kind of shoes he was wearing, I don't know anything about that."
It certainly isn't the first time Bernazard's name has come up under less-than-exemplary circumstances. Following the failed negotiations with free agent Carlos Delgado in 2005, Bernazard was accused of trying to exploit their mutual Latin heritage to gain favor with the slugger. And after Willie Randolph was fired, reports swirled that Bernazard had an axe to grind with the Mets' former manager and that his divisiveness may have led to Randolph's being canned; meanwhile, Ken Davidoff reported in Newsday that Bernazard's reputation around the league was sub-stellar, as two industry sources indicated the Mets' executive was "a really bad guy".
In my fantasy scenario where Jerry Manuel and Omar Minaya are shipped out of town on the back of a mule cart, let's just say that Tony Bernazard is riding shotgun.
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Don't forget this
The News reported Tuesday that Bernazard, one of GM Omar Minaya’s top lieutenants, recently erupted at the organization’s manager of baseball operations. During a game at Citi Field, scouts took their customary seats in a row behind home plate. Bernazard showed up during play and wanted a seat occupied by a D-Backs scout. Bernazard’s deputy, already seated in the row, suggested to the Mets VP that he wait until the half-inning ended, to minimize the disruption. Bernazard ripped into his deputy with a profanity-laced tirade as scouts and patrons watched in disbelief.
This was also in the article.
These are just the stories that we hear about. If he acts like this here in the states at a game with thousands of eyewitnesses around no less, how do you think he acts when he is scouting talent in the DR or in PR? If the Mets do keep Omar, I don’t see how they can keep this clown.
No night spent pantsless is a wasted night.
was that the kerfluffle over someone being an ivy leaguer or something?
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 22, 2009 1:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It was that story
It had nothing to do with him being an Ivy Leaguer, just when I posted the link yesterday, I mentioned that I found it funny that Adam Rubin mentioned that the deputy was an Ivy Leaguer, like it material to the story.
Also, Francessa (I can listen to him for a few minutes everyday before he says something that forces me to turn him off) mentioned that he heard that Bernazard recently got into it with Frankie Rodriguez, I think on the team bus.
Rubin went to UPenn
This story would be a lot more entertaining if it wasn’t the Mets.
by James Kannengieser on Jul 22, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Bernazard needs a catch phrase
Like, Hands off, hombre!! or Who said dat!!. Perhaps simply removing his shirt can be his signature.
If there's one thing the Wilpons hate,
it’s controversy. The more stories like this we hear, the better. I have a nightmare that Tony B. is the GM in waiting.
Don't even say it
I’ve been having that same nightmare.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 22, 2009 1:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
sounds like a real piece of crap
youd think a guy in his position would be way more mellow. i mean, sounds like a pretty sweet job. why would you act like a spaz and mess up a good thing?
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
Totally!
VP of Player development in any other organization means riding in a golf cart and palling around with ballplayers, totally beyond media scrutiny.
by TheBigStapler on Jul 22, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
The Mets just issued a statement:
We take these reports seriously, and are investigating the matter.
LOL
FC
I had a feeling the Mets had a cancer growing behind the scenes
sounds like this guy is it.
LOL I couldn't tell if you were kidding
Sarcasm is hard to read on the internet.
There are some people that really do want to bring Willie back.
I never was a fan of Willie's
But how the Mets fired him last year was wrong.
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 22, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Bobby V deserves a second chance
I felt he got screwed by Phillips.
His style of playing the game is perfect for this balpark as well.
I got no problem with Bobby V coming back, but ...
remember when he left that Leiter, Franco, et al., had taken control of the locker room and allegedly threw Kazmir under the bus to Mets management thus precipitating his trade for the pitcher who will remain unnamed.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"... remain unnamed FOREVER"
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Hey, Glider
If you never read Healey’s article about TB last year… you should. (The Leiter/Franco stuff is touched on there.)
http://gothambaseballmagazine.com/mets/peas-in-a-pod.html
If it isn’t exactly conclusive, it’s quite convincing.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Jul 22, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey LMFS ...
Thanks for that. I’m pulling it up right now.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Bobby V with a team like this might not get them into the post season
but he would them to play .500 ball.
he wouldn’t be going to the press telling complaining that his team is not that good. That’s one of my biggest pet peaves with Manuel. I remember Ted Nolan doing simialar things in his final season on Long Island which was a sign he wanted out. And Nolan had a talent for getting his worst players to believe in themselves which lead to them playing above their level of competence.
Valentine I was shocked to learn after he left was really well liked by his players. Kinda flew in the face of what we used to read about him.
Um...
Johan or Sheff?
What makes you think Johan can fight? Sheff would wipe the floor with Santana in a fight. Just because Ron Darling says he would want Johan next to him in “a dark alley” doesn’t mean anything. I actually think Johan would probably get his ass kicked in a fight.
"It's like the old phrase goes.....The balls in your court now Mr.Church, so you take that ball, you dribble it up the court and....................................... get a layup"
- Keith Hernandez
he used the word "hoo-ha"?
well bring it on!! (rips off shirt)
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
I am so sick of this crap
This guy is another jewel in the organization. It’s bad enough they play embarassing baseball but now they need to embarass themselves off the field as well. And you got to love how everyone plays dumb. Now one grows a pair and says “listen this has got to stop and it will stop!” How long is Omar going to back up a guy like this?? It’s so aggravating! Clean house, it’s time. From the owners down to the bat boys. What a bunch of clowns.
"I told him the next time he does that, I’m going to get my blade out and cut him, right on the field. Hey, I’m a gangsta now. You go gangsta on me, I’m gonna have to get you now."
- Jerry Manuel
ok ok
they can stay. But only if their last name isn’t Minaya, Bernazard, or Manuel.
"I told him the next time he does that, I’m going to get my blade out and cut him, right on the field. Hey, I’m a gangsta now. You go gangsta on me, I’m gonna have to get you now."
- Jerry Manuel
by dave the rave on Jul 22, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Where art thou Mr.Doubleday
I wish Doubleday was still with the Mets. He offered the only voice of reason against Fred and his kid.
Get this guy out!!
What a disgrace.
Fire them all! Clean house.
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 22, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions
In all fairness to Wilpon
I am one of those guys that thinks you need to give someone rope to hang themselves. I think that’s what he did with Minaya but I think his time is up and he knows it. Right now I think they are trying to smooth over a public relations disaster and will can him in the offseason.
I think that’s why he did his interview in the booth last night. He’s just living on borrowed time as it’s obvious given that Wilpon has closed to purse strings on him. Usually when the owner stops trusting you with his money that’s a sign that your time is almost up.
Wilpon’s vote of confidence is the kiss of death. Valentine and Philips got the same thing and were out the door in months.
Right before the trade deadline is probably not a good time to fire your GM.
you might be on to something here.
I sure hope so, at least.
We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!
by kingcritical on Jul 22, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
+10000
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Bernazard particularly went after middle infield prospect Jose Coronado, using a slang term associated with a woman’s anatomy, a source indicated.
Vajayjay?
um
hoo-ha was what he said
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jul 22, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
This organization is an absolute joke if it doesn't can him immediately
.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement
+1
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jul 22, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
All we need now is for Brock Lesnar to hit Tony with a chair....
…and the insanity will be complete.
They should replace Jerry with Bernazard
At least that would make the rest of the season entertaining. Imagine if after Church missed third base Bernazard would have come running out of the dugout with his shirt off and challenged Church to a fight. Now that would be awesome!
Livan
Or he could attack Livan Hernandez, both for being bad and because everything’s more entertaining when Livan does it. (Except baseball.)
by pologroundling on Jul 22, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Bernazard the bigger problem
This topic got me to make my first post because its crazy … perhaps Bernazards undermining has prevented Omar from working effectively? It seems like the Wilpon’s listen to this character more than anyone else.
Underage drinking?
Isn’t Coronado 23? What’s the drinking age in Binghamton? Or was Bernazard unhappy with him for having a drink three years ago?
Coronado sports a nice .605 OPS
He’d fit right into the Mets lineup.
Yeah, Coronado is over the drinking age. Actually, if the roster that I looked at is correct, the only people on the Binghamton roster who are under 21(the legal drinking age) are Mejia and Ruben Tejada. So, I’m not sure how much underage drinking could really have been going on.
Did he call Coronado Doloris?
Or something that rhymes with that? Maybe he just asked Coronado if he wanted a ticket to the “gun show.”
Or in wrestling speak, he may have asked, “who wants a shot at the title!”
I think there is an SNL skit in here somewhere.
Her name rhymed with a part of the female anatomy.
That’s the first name that came to my mind.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Bovary
"You know I am only teasing. I love you gals out there -- always have." - Keith Hernandez
I'm still giggling about this whole thing
The things Minaya does are often disappointing or confusing but the things Bernazard does are just absurd!
Didn't Fran Fraschilla drop his pants
and say something threatening to his players at St. John’s? Not sure if he challenged them to duel, but the Tony B incident reminded me of that.
by James Kannengieser on Jul 22, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions
As did...
… Mike Singletary, in his first game last year after taking over the 49ers’ head coaching job.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Jul 22, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Singletary also dropped trou in the locker room
and strangely, it actually worked, the niners played better down the stretch last year and of course beat the Jets.
Why do I even know this guys name
How can a lieutenant to the General Manager be attracting so much attention? Only one way, he’s either extremely good and other teams are trying to hire him, or he’s horrid. I think we got a horrid one on our hands.
Can his sorry ass, and let’s some ball (but bring back Bill Singer back)!
by jacksonvillesuns on Jul 22, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions
Bill Singer?
i would really like nothing better. These are slow blogging times.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jul 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The sad thing about this is that it took a very long time for the Mets to convince guys to sign here
With this kind of bullshit going on with this guy and the medical staff it knocks this team back to the 90’s. As bad as things were I felt we were getting to a point where guys would sign here at a discount.
This is becoming the circus side show that everyone looked to the Isles organization for. No one is going to sign here this offseason if this crap keeps up. Wilpon not has his hand forced to clean house.
I feel like it’s only a matter of time before a lot of guys start demanding a trade out of here.
I don't think Tony B will have much of an effect on players signing.
He aparently had some influence on Delgado, but I haven’t heard of his effect on ant other negotiations. The Mets can still offer big dollars to big name players, and they have a good core of players locked up in their primes. If nothing else, the injuries have helped to show just how good that core is.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 22, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Couple him with the imcompetence of the medical staff?
Guys are gonna steer clear of here.
We have a good core of players but we don’t have the system to even develop decent players off the bench.
This sets the teams prospects back a whole decade of ever getting the complimentary guys in Free Agency to put this team over the top.
I honestly don't think the medical staff as a whole is the issue.
The doctors are supposed to be some of the best in the bigs, but the training staff seems unable to come up with a firm course of action to take in rehabbing them. Minaya seems to follow the Mangina approach of not letting the media know the true nature of some of these injuries, which does not sit well with the ammount of media in NY. I think Minaya believes that the fanbase will lose faith and stop buying tickets if they know their best players won’t be playing.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 22, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
They are part of it and being investigated by the NHLPA
Beltran had a big spat with the team over his knee before landing on the DL.
If the Mets had sat him he only would have missed about a weeks worth of games. Probably would have been able to hand in there for a while. Now he is out for more than a month.
MPBPA
I’m used to posting about hockey.
LOL
How is this for a "conspiracy theory"
the players are so pissed at the organization, that they have talked to their agents, and are taking their sweet time to come back until things are handled different……..
I read something about Beltran getting his agent involved a few weeks ago
but don’t recall all the details.
Things are bad.
REALLY BAD.
Is it just me, or does Rubin seem to be excessively negative lately
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 22, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions
I don't know why you'd expect anything other than politically correct BS
The story broke today…the first step for the Mets is definately to calm the situation to the media. I actually would rather see the Mets take their time with their decisions rather than make hasty moves.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 22, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I think that just repeating the "we are looking into it" statement from earlier in the day only adds more fuel to the fire.
He could have said more.
And run the risk of a Bernazard lawsuit, and making this situation bigger and more of a circus.
I’d love to see Tony B fired, I’d love to see Omar fired, but think about how you would want to see the situation handled if you were Tony B. Handling this behind closed doors and not throwing him under the bus shows some class, and should help if the Mets do fire him and have to replace him.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 22, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I think any reasonable judge would piss on a Bernazard lawsuit vs. the Mets.
If Bernazard has any gripe, it would be against the Daily News.
Better safe than sorry sometimes
After the way they handled the Randolph firing, I have no issue with them handling this behind closed doors and taking their time. Just tell the guy to stay home while they consider their options, and then be honest with the media when they reach a decision.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 22, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish Omar had taken as much time with the decision to trade for Francoeur
as he appears to be doing with this. With the organization as a whole, I’d rather see the Mets take their time and consider all outcomes with their decisions. They just seem to make rush moves to often.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 22, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel much better about Franko turning his career around with Bobby V at the helm
That guy doesn’t take any shit.
Either you play hard and exectue basic fundamentals or you don’t play. It’s that simple.
I don't think that Francoeur's issue is not playing hard
or not playing with proper fundamentals. He just can’t seem to recognize what pitches are worth laying off, which could easily be a result of poor coaching (Terry Pendleton wasn’t ever a shining example of plate discipline).
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 22, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Now Manuel is on the radio........
First question……..hey Jeryy, when you address the team, do you have your shoes on ?.
Jerry: HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Oh, I'm sitting here watching SNY, instead
by Abstract NYC on Jul 22, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Jerry is really dancing around the Bernazard issue (as he should)
Jerry to Mike Francesa: Don’t go there………I really appreciate it.
Like he does with every issue.
He not exactly an inspiring leader. You never mistake him for an elite MLB manager.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Can't blame Jerry for that...
He really should keep his mouth shut about this. Tony B is above him in the organization, and isn’t directly involved with his day to day work (or shouldn’t be).
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 22, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
On Bernazard, you are correct, but
as a general proposition, I’ve never been impressed with his leadership skills.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
He's a lousy manager,
but Fat Mike should have known he’d have no comment on the Tony B thing
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 22, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
That link from 2008 explains so much
Tony Bernazard
Over the next two years, Wilpon’s money, Minaya’s personality and a very professional Willie Randolph were able to turn things around quickly, but as the organization started to heal itself, another man who would be King started to exert the influence bestowed on him by the GM. The difference is, this assistant GM had his sights set on the manager, pitching coach and others in the organization. He operated in the shadows like Goldis – and started driving good people out of the organization.
Omar and Jerry
Now to Randolph. Undermined by Bernazard, the lack of any real confidants on his coaching staff (interim manager Jerry Manuel was an Omar hire), and all of the mistakes made by the front office doesn’t change the fact that he wasn’t a very good manager. He deserved to be fired last year, got a chance to redeem himself, but didn’t deserve to get fired the way he did. Blame Omar Minaya for the clumsy way he handled this entire situation. Blame Omar Minaya for his assistant’s constant open-door policy with the Latino players, which hurt the skipper’s credibility. But stop blaming Fred and Jeff Wilpon for stuff they didn’t do.
I'm thinking...
… that between Harazin, Phillips, the SuperScouts, Minaya, Minaya’s lieutenants, and Madoff, it’s a shame bad judgement of character doesn’t entitle one to a tax break, because Mr. W would be in for a windfall.
Perhaps the Wilpons just need a good headhunter.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Jul 22, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's hope it's not the revolving door.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Mets should bail Matt Bush out of jail and have him pitch
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 22, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions
Man, as a Mets fan, I'm so ashamed...
From the combination of the terrible play on the field, to the front office, now minors…. Just an overrall disappointing season. I had such high hopes coming into it too.
so did the rest of us.......my sons went to the last game in 2007......I went to the last game in 2008.........
I could taste the victory this year……….then……..
Pelfrey fell off the mound on opening night at Citi Field…….
I knew we were in trouble then………
Pelfrey falling on the mound that night was the theme for the season.
Season full of bloopers…. Don’t even ask me how I felt when Castillo dropped the ball…. : /
by Abstract NYC on Jul 22, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
speaking of the Castillo drop, I just saw that Yes is marketing that game as an instant classic
I always knew the Yankees were cruel, arogant and clueless, but this struck me as exceedingly so
It's truly embarassing.
And it was embarrassing what they did to Willie. But this all, IMHO, comes from the top. Jeff Wilpon is a dweeb who’s in over his head and Fred is simply delusional as he lives in Dodger World.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Omar (at press conference on Bernazard):
Well, we’re going to conduct an investigation, who know what I’m saying. And we’re not going to say anything until the investigation is completed, you know what I’m saying, ok? Even if the investigation turns out to substantiate the reason to investigate, you know what I’m saying ok, ok, I can’t say what will do until that investigation is completed.
You know what I’m saying, ok?
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Probably with the Yankees
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Laroche was a free agent at the end of the year
and a major dissapointment.
He’ll get you 20-25 HRs but strike out 100 times.
Doesn’t walk a lot either.
they really are
I would not mind Freddy Sanchez at 2b next year.
Eddie C on the FAN with Francesca right now
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Bernazard has had "words" with both KRod and Johan
… Don’t Mess With The Johan!
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
You know....not for nothing, but speaking as a spanish person.........
we sometimes get quite animated in our conversations, and that, at times looks to others as arguments……….
as it relates to baseball, it isn’t unusual for spanish men to gesture wildy at each other and appear that they’re gonna kill each other, and all they are basically saying is " the guy was safe "..
Just thought I would point that out for perspective……….
I’d like to think that if Bernazard messed (even a little) with players like Santana, he’d be out “pronto” without much investigating.
Odds that Gary and Keith mention Tony B's meltdown tonight?
I’d say about 8 to 1.
The Self-Destruction of Tony Bernazard
is happening right before our … ears.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Eddie agreed with Francesca
… that having the stars (Beltran, Reyes, et al.) around the team all the time undermines the team.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Francessa's Law
If Mike Francessa thinks it’s true, there is no logical reason to think it is.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 22, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
only one thing is missing
While I am proud of the many hilarious comments people have made in this thread, I must say I am a little disappointed nobody has photoshopped a comical image of a shirtless Tony for us. I expected better of you guys.
I actually tried last night
To put his head on Lou Ferrigno as the Incredible Hulk’s body but then realized I had no place online to host the image. Now it’s old news!
by TheBigStapler on Jul 23, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Pile on the medical staff to the mule cart as well
How did the team become so incompetent in a short span of time.
Re: Eric's Fantasy Scenario
It makes me think of Jerry, Omar and Tony going on some kind of grifting tour similar to this
Dont ask me why.
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