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Around SBN: The Amateur Mathematics Of Linsanity

the topic de jure is all over the interwebs but Cameron savages Omar most viciously. ouchie.

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The seller comment was something I left out of my article

but I agree with most of what he says. I’m going to throw my piece at the first guy using the injury excuse in the comments.

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Jul 23, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Not being Sellers, doesn't imply being Buyers

Honestly what would you want to sell, in terms of getting lots of value? Wright? I don’t really consider possibly dealing a guy like Schneider or Feliciano selling.

I guess the only guy they could sell is KRod, which I wouldn’t be against if the the right prospects were involved.

by Balagast on Jul 23, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Omah, you think you big time?

You gonna die big time!

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jul 23, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Man, the FanGraphs comments

are even more brutal than the article.

by TheBigStapler on Jul 23, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

One dude bashed Reyes for his career OBP and Beltran for not being tough

Reyes has been the best shortstop in baseball the last three years not named Hanley, and Beltran has played every game with the Mets hurt. Why don’t people think he’s tough?

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Jul 23, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

because he just DOES it

Bashing Reyes for not drawing more walks at least has some kind of kernel of truth to it, or isn’t prima facie ridiculous (even if the guy is a magnificent ballplayer, this is a facet of his game that could stand improvement). But people who bitch about Beltran not being tough are just idiots who prefer cheap theatrics to real athletics. It’s like they wish he acted hurt so they could feel more sympathy. Just like Posnanski has been pointing out for a long time, some fans are so fickle or dumb that Beltran’s effortless grace somehow seems like a bad thing to them.

by anonymous on Jul 23, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beltran

Doesn’t seem like he doesn’t play hurt. he does. But there is a slight air of the whiner about him, hate to say. Great player, don’t get me wrong. I went to one game where he caught a ball on the run, nice catch didn’t dive or anything (effortless grace as you say), and the game was delayed 10 minutes or so as the trainer went to the outfield, consulted, he twisted this way and that, stayed in to much applause. I just hadn’t seen that much time spent in the outfield by the trainer for a guy who never hit the ground.

He hit 3 doubles too in that game.

Say, non-sequitor: Wise made a great catch to save that perfect game. i watched live on mlb.

But the catch i really thought was nice and effortless, albeit it hurt the mets, was Morgan’s grab of Wright’s drive wityh men on the other night. Man he made it look easy.

Just an aside on beltran. Nothing to back it up really, just a sense. And I have it in for him ever since I got him in a trade for his first year as a Met and he totally rotted for my fanatsy team.

by wobatus on Jul 23, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you, second sentence of last paragraph.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jul 23, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

just like

you have the sense Jayson Werth is an uberdouche. I don’t dislike Carlos, he just leaves me a little cold. It is an accumulation of little things he has said and done. But I get the worship. He’s damn good. I don’t know him, and he seems like a fairly quiet, unassuming guy. Could be a wonderful fellow for all I know.

by wobatus on Jul 23, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem though is Reyes was called up way too early

His career OBP, .337 is not indicative of the last three years where it was closer to .360. To make like Reyes isn’t a premiere lead off hitter is absurd.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Jul 23, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you mean "du jour"?

Omar is de facto a bad GM, but I think the jury in this case is Fred Wilpon.

by anonymous on Jul 23, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

my bad.

I hadn’t read carefully.

by wobatus on Jul 23, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought

you were saying it’s de facto as opposed to du jour.

by wobatus on Jul 23, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just like to recognize that Beltran is awesome and enjo it.

Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa

by GenJackRipper on Jul 24, 2009 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I enjoy watching him play

and am glad he is the center fielder for my favorite team, but not all of my attitude towards a player is based merely on whether he is good or bad at baseball or plays for the Mets.

by wobatus on Jul 24, 2009 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

oops

oh yeah i did mean du jure. as in, ’excuse me Flo? whats the soup du jour"

Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.

by kendynamo on Jul 23, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

make it 4 boilermakers

well if that fella over there is C-Bass

this could probably go on for quite a while.

Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.

by kendynamo on Jul 24, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

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