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Open Thread: Mets vs Rockies

Colorado Rockies at New York Mets, Jul 27, 2009 7:10 PM EDT



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Colorado Rockies
@ New York Mets

Monday, Jul 27, 2009, 7:10 PM EDT
Citi Field

Ubaldo Jimenez vs Oliver Perez

Partly cloudy,rain. Winds blowing out to left field at 10-15 m.p.h. Game time temperature around 80.

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Oliver Perez

#46 / Pitcher / New York Mets

6-3

215

L

L

Aug 15, 1981



W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Oliver Perez 2-3 8 8 0 0 0 0 38.2 41 33 33 5 38 32 7.68 2.04


Ubaldo Jimenez

#38 / Pitcher / Colorado Rockies

6-4

200

R

R

Jan 22, 1984



W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Ubaldo Jimenez 7-9 20 20 1 0 0 0 128.2 115 56 55 6 52 116 3.85 1.30

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I'd like to see Burkhart get an in-game interview with Rubin

while Minaya sits in with Keith and Gary. It’d be like an episode of Springer. Let’s stir things up even more!

by David G on Jul 27, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

On WFAN

Omar is saying that he is sorry for what he said about Adam

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 27, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

He's gonna be saying that a lot

too bad the damage is already done.

Me thinks he made a mess and Wilpon wants him to clean it up.

by Chickendirt on Jul 27, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cheer up guys...

3 man booth tonight!

You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.

by Kevin H on Jul 27, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

eh

Rubin may have been just trying to get a feel for what the VP of Player Development does and what his background needs to be. Omar looks like a beeoch here IMO.

by DoctorK16 on Jul 27, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, he clearly was way too chummy with his subject. He was not objective.

You do NOT ask your subjects for jobs, that is a huge breach of ethics.

by aparkermarshall on Jul 27, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Adam Rubin needs a refresher on his failing journalistic ethics. But that in no way excuses any of Omar’s ridiculously unprofessional behavior here.

by anonymous on Jul 27, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right, Omar should have shut his mouth and brought this up with the Daily News

If he kept his mouth shut he could have gotten Rubin fired as well and it never would have gotten out.

by aparkermarshall on Jul 27, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I need to footnote this.

I’m reading some later stories now — like this one in the Times — and it seems like Rubin is claiming that he never did anything but discuss how someone gets a job with any major league team, and never even inquired about getting a job in the Mets organization — much less “lobbied for” a job in player development specifically. If this is true, Rubin seems in the ethical clear to me. And Omar seems like a fucking liar.

by anonymous on Jul 27, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're already playing that angle in the papers?

WOW!!!

Omar is such toast.

He was ballistic on a reporter and LIED when he did it.

by Chickendirt on Jul 27, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

In Rubin's blog today on the press conference

it’s interesting that there’s no mention at all of what Omar said. Did he write this before the conference was over?
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2009/07/27/2009-07-27_tony.html
Either that or he’s trying to take himself out of the story when he’s buried in it now.

by David G on Jul 27, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rockies announcers

just talked about the Tony B and Omar situation for like 10 minutes.

ain't had enough...

by BlackOps on Jul 27, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Gary, Keith, Ron

Wow, once again, no matter how embarrassing and amateurish the Met organization has become, Gary, Keith, and Ron delivered a great analysis of the day’s events.

“bizarre” as Gary said. They pulled no punches.

Great job by those guys. One of the few reasons to watch these games.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I was actually surprised...

that they so strongly defended Rubin. They basically said it was no big deal to ask about jobs with the club, they said it happens all the time, and is not unethical in any way.

That was interesting.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it sounded a little odd...

but the SNY booth said otherwise. I’ll take their word. They made it sounded like normal networking.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I may be dinosaur but it sounds like

these reporters can be bribed with jobs to shut their mouths. To me its very unethical and reporters should be fired for doing it. But I guess its the sign of the times that widespread corruption should just be ignored because everyone is doing it.

by aparkermarshall on Jul 27, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

I don’t know if I’d call it “corruption”.

If Rubin wants to check out possibly working in baseball, and he covers baseball, doesn’t it make sense to inquire?

What’s he supposed to do, quit his job before asking any advice?

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

or recuse himself from covering the Mets. Would you want your lawyer to inquire about working for the prosecutors office while he is defending you?

by aparkermarshall on Jul 27, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno

To be honest, I’m just enjoying Minaya making a complete ass out of himself again.

Anything that helps him get fired makes me happy.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

That doesn't sound like the same thing.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jul 27, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

If this is truly common in sports reporting — and it may be — it’s one more thing that would never fly in any other section of the newspaper, and one more sign that sports “journalism” is generally terrible. This, more than firing Joe Morgan, was the point of FJM — crappy journalistic practice is all too routine in the sports world.

by anonymous on Jul 27, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I’m no journalist, or lawyer, but it seems to me “unethical” would be something along the lines of conflict of interest, or “doing favors” in exchange for favorable treatment. At leasy, that is what my company’s code of conduct manual says.

Rubin consistently KILLS the Mets, so I don’t think he had anything to worry about. In fact, if the Mets were smart, they would hire him AWAY from the Daily News so he couldn’t kill them on the paper anymore.

by fxcarden on Jul 27, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

he should have inquired with

another team if he was that interested, not with the Mets.

by David G on Jul 27, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was he killing them because he didnt get the job?

You see how easy it is to call his motives into question now that he was asking about a job.

by aparkermarshall on Jul 27, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think

anyone writing anything positive about the Mets this year should have their journalistic integrity questioned.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

The one good thing about this week.........

Francesa is on vacation………..I think for 2 weeks.

by fxcarden on Jul 27, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I think...

they want him to fail miserably to justify their love of OBP.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one needs Jeff Francoeur to fail to justify a love of OBP

the point of being a hitter is not making outs, OBP measures how often a player doesnt make outs.

by mets81 on Jul 27, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

who doesn't love OBP?

People who like their ballplayers to make outs?

by anonymous on Jul 27, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ooh, ooh!

That’s the best part!

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Jul 27, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey I still call it Shea

Fans still call their field “The Jake”

by cuseindahuse on Jul 27, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Slaptastic!

You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.

by Kevin H on Jul 27, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions  

K-Wright

He’s on pace to break the all-time Met record for strikeouts in a season. Beating, yes, Kingman.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

In his last 20 ABs

He’d only struck out 3 times. Slight improvement. But good righties can still work him over.

by David G on Jul 27, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do you think they will do for next year?

Delgado gone. What do they do for 1B, LF, RF, 2B, C? Not to mention pitching. Holes all over the place.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I know

But this team is what, dead last in the majors in HR? They have to someone on the team capable of hitting more than 10 HR.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Way to go Ollie

You and Omar are such killjoys.

by fxcarden on Jul 27, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

He's trying so hard to throw strikes

that he’s “wild in the strike zone” and basically grooves pitches. Could have had Randy Wolf less than half the price!

by David G on Jul 27, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree

And there was really nothing in Ollie last year that gave you the impression that he was on the verge of a major breakthrough.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our eyes are different from Omar's

Derek Lowe was clearly the no brainer signing…

by Abstract NYC on Jul 27, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ollie

Yea, I think I’d rather have had the 2 draft picks than Ollie.

by FireOmar on Jul 27, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Omir Santos

is on fire, his OBP is over .300.

by aparkermarshall on Jul 27, 2009 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I've lost track...

This is “good Ollie”, right?

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

It's

the Ollie that walks 7 batter’s in 5 innings and the Ollie that that gives up 5 runs in 3 innings

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 27, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The rockies are a hot team right now, and well....

The Mets won 2 in a row, that’s about where it stops.

by Abstract NYC on Jul 27, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice catch by...

ummm…whoever that guy is…in left field.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Press Conference

Tell me that wasn’t the most RETARDED press conference of all time. I swear the Mets are worse than the Knicks. There is no way the Wilpons can keep Omar after this year, they can’t be that stupid can they?

by FireOmar on Jul 27, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate Omar as much as anyone

But I don’t think he has approached “Knick level” yet.

Give him some time, and he’ll probably get there though.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree

Isaiah took bad GM-ing where no bad GM has gone before. He turned the roster of one of the league’s flagship franchises into an utter toxic waste dump. To be the Knicks of Isaiah’s peak, we’d have to give away our core and sign Redding, Ramon Martinez, and Oil Spill Valdez to colossal extensions that cripple our ability to improve ourselves. We’d also need to commit PR disasters that go beyond simply embarrassing the franchise, that spark litigation and societal outrage, like the sexual harassment case and Starbury’s truck party. No GM has ever been permitted to stay on long enough to do that much damage. What we witnessed with the Knicks is a once in a generation accomplishment.

by metsjetsnets on Jul 27, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

After this year?

How bout after this week?

Omar has to be praying the Mets win this one today to at least lessen the blow in tomorrows paper.

What he just pulled is going viral all over the web.

by Chickendirt on Jul 27, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha...yeah...

I can’t wait for the back pages of the tabloids tomorrow. It’s going to be awesome.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Omar

Oh Minaya thought it was bad before lol.

by FireOmar on Jul 27, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

" A text message sent to Bernazard by The Associated Press was not immediately returned. "

by fxcarden on Jul 27, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't even gotten to ESPN yet

That’s gonne be nasty as it makes the rounds.

by Chickendirt on Jul 27, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Omar

I’ve never seen a sports reporter called out in a press conference before.

by FireOmar on Jul 27, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man

I’m out of the loop for two days and all hell breaks loose. ;-)

The bloids are going to be great for a week; I wish I got the Post.

by Kepler on Jul 27, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Post

Forget the post, the News had the cartoon with
Omar as Sherlock Holmes and Tony B with his shirt off was GREAT.

by FireOmar on Jul 27, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bobby Knight

did it about 5 times a year. He had anger issues.

by Kepler on Jul 27, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dumb

I think it’s obvious by now that Omar is just a profoundly dumb human being. Even if he was a genius at being a GM (yeah, right), he still is laughably stupid in dealing with the media, or even speaking in public.

Like it’s obvious he had an ax to grind with Rubin, but to think that this was the appropriate place to do it just proves how little brainpower this guy has.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the title of the AP article

as I said earlier it’s the top story in Yahoo’s MLB news feed;

Mets fire VP Bernazard in bizarre news conference
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;ylt=AlTCf1ssgc8R9sxL1qfC98RvLYF?slug=ap-mets-bernazardfired&prov=ap&type=lgns

by Chickendirt on Jul 27, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember

McCarver got called out by Deion Sanders in the lockeroom once.

“Yeah, you’re a real man.”

It was like Rocky III. Aint so bad, aint so bad.

by Kepler on Jul 27, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

NY NY Sports Guys

I think those guys can do a better job than Omar.

by FireOmar on Jul 27, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Keith says Tulo has bad range

Tell that to UZR, which has him at 10.5 runs above average for his career

by Pat Andriola on Jul 27, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Funnier aspect about how Minaya framed what Rubin called about VS what Gary, Keith and Ron called it

Gary, Keith and Ron stated that Rubin called asking for career advice.

Omar claimed Rubin called trying to get a job in the organization.

This is where Omar is completely fucked. Those are two seperate things and if it was just career advice Omar comes off looking like one big phat liar.

by Chickendirt on Jul 27, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm trying to keep things threaded above

but I basically just said the same thing upthread. Omar actually seems by most accounts to have been just lying, bald-faced, about Rubin’s behavior.

by anonymous on Jul 27, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't catch that upthread

Sorry bout that.

It dawned on me the moment KGR and mentioned it.

Didn’t think to post it until now.

by Chickendirt on Jul 27, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's screwed anyway

because media people always stick together. ESPN will probably compare this to Golgotha.

Ink and pixels kill.

by Kepler on Jul 27, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jimenez looks great with the stirrups

And that sucks, this is how big inning happen

by njmetfan12 on Jul 27, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn

this is going to bite us in the ass

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 27, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

wow that was a nasty slider

He actually looked like a professional pitcher there!

by njmetfan12 on Jul 27, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Mr. Fowler

looked like a turkey on that.

by Kepler on Jul 27, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, on an unrelated note

Heyman is really a jerk. Has anyone been reading his tweets?

by blains2000 on Jul 27, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Just his constantly snide attitude about Mets

jumping up and down on Omar when he said negative things re:Rubin himself previsously.

by blains2000 on Jul 27, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

On twitter....

time to make up list of mets gm candidates: alderson, odowd, hunsicker, gillick, adam rubin

by fxcarden on Jul 27, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

i am not sure omar minaya survives this. u cant throw out a half-baked accusation. or maybe completely baked. #mets
about 2 hours ago from web

 omar’s stink bomb could blow up in face. after accusing news’ rubin of lobbying for mets job, omar must produce proof.
about 3 hours ago from web

 bernazard affair reflects poorly on omar. firing looks driven by Daily News, which knew more than #mets. watch O spin at 330
about 6 hours ago from web

by blains2000 on Jul 27, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably me

and past readings of Heyman. But he always seems to have a condescending attitude towards the Mets. It’s fine as fans but as a professional sports writer I find it annoying.

by blains2000 on Jul 27, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice hitting

but my god, Jimenez really throws GAS

by njmetfan12 on Jul 27, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Lets get some runs.

Great K Perez. Great hit DWright. F the front office drama.

by TDJ on Jul 27, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

What an awesome cleanup hitter

I’m so glad Jerry trots him out to help build his confidence.

Let’s just have Cora hit third. Wright is way too confident. Bat him eighth.

by Pat Andriola on Jul 27, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow I can't believe he hit that out

way to take advantage of the hanging slider

by njmetfan12 on Jul 27, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

CHURCH !

Francoeur !

by fxcarden on Jul 27, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Francoeur says:

Screw you AA!

Santos taught him that.

by Pat Andriola on Jul 27, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn

at least we got one back

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 27, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey gang.

Just got in from dinner. Did Keith and Ron say anything about Bernazard?

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 27, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

The Orwellian unperson

who formerly occupied the position of Assistant GM.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 27, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH EURBRAVESIA

Just don’t try to read about the Mets on your Kindle!

by anonymous on Jul 27, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice work

and yes, I meant “Eastbravesia”.

by anonymous on Jul 27, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

Check up-thread. They basically called it as they saw it. Nothing good to say about Tony B, or Omar for that matter.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gosh...

he just can’t repeat the same motion two times in a row.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 27, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Warthen should go too, he hasn't been a positive to this rotation...

I mean at least Rick Peterson was getting some good results from Ollie

by Abstract NYC on Jul 27, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Murphy

I don’t thin Murphy can hit enough to justify being at 1B, but I admire how he’s improved over there. The guy seems to bust his ass to get better.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Third baseman by trade...

the easiest defensive transition is first base. He has made it well though — credit where credit is due.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 27, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

He was great. But he sucks. It happens.

by Kepler on Jul 27, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

YES!

April night game at Shea, in around 85 or 86. Bruce Berenyi pitched a shutout. (Yes, really) Rose made the final out.

F- Rose!

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking

about Pat Zachry’s career-ruining step-kick, thanks to the little prick’s streak. Not to mention sucker punching Buddy.

by Kepler on Jul 27, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember...

him crying about having his streak ended because the pitcher fooled him on a change up. Who was that? It was a Brave I think.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

But then who would send the

runner when it’s clear that he will be out by a good feet

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 27, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's too aggressive all the time

there is “trying to make something happen” and then there are poor gambles. Razor takes a lot of the latter. By contrast, last season I think we had the opposite problem of unpredictability from the 3rd base coach. Shines has been, if nothing else, consistent.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 27, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

We desperately need some runs in the bottom of this inning.

This is going to be our only chance to get something going.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

we got the heart of the line up coming up

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 27, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

another fine WTF from Wayne

Hagin: “and, quite frankly, [the Rockies are] still very much in the race in the Western Division.”

…the least competitive division in baseball, the one and only one that’s basically already clinched.

Nice thinkin’ there, buddy.

by anonymous on Jul 27, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Met personnel

The funny part about the Mets front office is that no one we have could even get a job with any other team.

Willie acted like he was going to be flooded with offers and he ended up as a crappy bench coach.

Bernazard is toxic, no one will hire him.

This is Omar’s last job in organized baseball, he’s a laughingstock.

No one the Mets hire ever succeeds elsewhere. It’s like we’re the last stop.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Alright, Frenchy

No DP, got the runner over

Not bad

by Pat Andriola on Jul 27, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

He hit it hard...

"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."

-Jim Fregosi

by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a lot of times for him.

I think we picked the wrong guy to hate… ;-)

by Kepler on Jul 27, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn

come on more hit.come on Sully

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 27, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Francoeur

Seems to be a good situational hitter.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

He puts the ball in play...

doesn’t walk, doesn’t k excessively.

"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."

-Jim Fregosi

by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 27, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

As Beltran and Reyes get back

I think people are gonna like Francoeur as he’s dropped back in the lineup.

by Chickendirt on Jul 27, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but

he insulted sabermetrics one, so he must burn as a witch.

by Kepler on Jul 27, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

nice...

"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."

-Jim Fregosi

by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 27, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice job Sullivan

I’m very happy with that AB, nice slide by David

by njmetfan12 on Jul 27, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Manufacturing runs baby

the joe morgan way

"Put it in the books. The Mets are the 2006 National League Eastern Divison champions"--Howie Rose

by firejerrynow on Jul 27, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Let's get a hit here

There have been 3 or 4 hard hit balls in a row

by njmetfan12 on Jul 27, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn, still well hit

Let’s keep this scoreless bullpen

by njmetfan12 on Jul 27, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

6 straight hard hit balls in that inning

With a Pesky Pole that would have been 3 homers to right. :-)

by Kepler on Jul 27, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

you've got to be kidding me.

It’s July and the Mets are 5 games below .500. Oh, and there are 6 other teams ahead of them in the wild-card “race.” And they’re playing a field full of sub-replacement-level scrubs.

by anonymous on Jul 27, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we lose all 4 of this series

We can still get the Wild Card.

The point is that, barring a mini-miracle, it is still very, very unlikely, despite these couple of games.

by Pat Andriola on Jul 27, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will take that

At least have the excitement of the chase. Would rather PHL collapse, but their pharmacist is really good.

by TDJ on Jul 27, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can remember when PHL

was PHA on the Shea scoreboard. PGH, MTL… those were the days (sniff).

by Kepler on Jul 27, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Francoeur hit a homer?

Cue the loving blog post from metsmerizedonline.com

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Jul 27, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

When did this team learn to play small ball.. and when did Jerry learn to use Stokes?

President of the Ramses Barden Fan Club

Fact on Villanova Sports

by Hoyadestroya85 on Jul 27, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Come on Socks! Ur supposed to be a Cy Young candidate

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Jul 27, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

In Play Outs--- Socks for Cy Young

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Jul 27, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah baby..

Lets get some runs!

President of the Ramses Barden Fan Club

Fact on Villanova Sports

by Hoyadestroya85 on Jul 27, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it bad I'm almost happy that Pagan made an out,

so that Castillo can lead off, because I’m that confident that he’ll get on somehow

by njmetfan12 on Jul 27, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Huh?

Wright and Murphy/Tatis > Castillo and Cora

Hands down

by Pat Andriola on Jul 27, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, in theory

Wright and ME > Castillo and Cora. Just not lately.

by Kepler on Jul 27, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

I think before the season, we would have inked in 60 HR from our Corner IF, and said that Castillo and Cora would be out of baseball.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

Man, it would be so great to win this game. We really deserve it.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder if Luis has bribed every MLB pitcher

not to throw strikes. It really makes no sense, since he’s really only a threat to hit singles

by njmetfan12 on Jul 27, 2009 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh god...

If Wright ever hits a HR again, this is the spot.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Think Francoeur could draw a walk from this guy?

"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."

-Jim Fregosi

by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 27, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

greater $$$$$$

"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."

-Jim Fregosi

by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 27, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

Swinging after 7 straight balls?

by njmetfan12 on Jul 27, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

that was an epic bunt

by Kepler on Jul 27, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

very good bunt

"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."

-Jim Fregosi

by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 27, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jerry ball sucks

"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."

-Jim Fregosi

by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 27, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

are you fucking joking?

Position players bunting? Terrible idea. Position players who can hit a little bit bunting so that CORY SULLIVAN can get to the plate with runners on? Submoronic.

by anonymous on Jul 27, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate the bunt there.

Big deal, the runner was already in socring position, and we gave away an out.

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Great Bunt

but I still dont like the strategy

by mets81 on Jul 27, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

the IBB was inevitable

"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."

-Jim Fregosi

by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 27, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

HOLY SHIT!

FRENCHY JUST WALKED!!!!

by Kepler on Jul 27, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

For the love of all things holy Francoeur

I don’t understand walking him here, since you could “unintentionally” intentionally walk him, and he would probably swing at anythign

by njmetfan12 on Jul 27, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

FIRE JERRY RIGHT NOW

Bunting? Un be fucking lievable.

by anonymous on Jul 27, 2009 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Jerry Manuel is the stupidest human being who has ever managed an MLB club

Torborg, Baker, Green. Manuel outshines them all.

Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa

by GenJackRipper on Jul 27, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I think I might agree.

Art Howe’s whole career had NOTHING on that Murphy bunt.

by anonymous on Jul 27, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh god

Don’t hit into a Double play

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 27, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I

don’t
believe
what
I
just
saw

by Kepler on Jul 27, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

That still gives me chills

"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."

-Jim Fregosi

by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 27, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

And now, the bunt is lost in the confusion.

Jerry ought to be breathing a huge sigh of relief.

by anonymous on Jul 27, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

he ought to be breathing a huge sign of relief because Today’s dog and pony show might have allowed him to keep his job for a few more weeks.

by mets81 on Jul 27, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

on the replay

it looks like J.J. Putz elbow rehab has convinced of nothing but eating

by njmetfan12 on Jul 27, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

totally

is Mo Vaughn running our Rehab?

by mets81 on Jul 27, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

consisted?

Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa

by GenJackRipper on Jul 27, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Tatis

I hate Jerry Manuel. I wouldn’t pick him up if he were lost in bear country, but I like tatis.

Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa

by GenJackRipper on Jul 27, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

METSMERIZED

I’m not saying that Jeff Francoeur should walk more, but I am saying that it’s indisputable that every time he’s walked as a Met he’s caused a home run to follow.

by DonGately on Jul 27, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

What is this reply button

and what have you done with his hat

by DonGately on Jul 27, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, sorry, I get it now

Isn’t there a user here called Metsmerized, too? I figured you were replying to some comment from him/her.

by anonymous on Jul 27, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1000000

Transitive Property at its finest

by mets81 on Jul 27, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

We all hate Jerry

but you got to give him credit we all thought bunting with Murph was a bad idea and we all thought batting with Tatis was bad.Maybe Jerry knows what he is doing.Or maybe he’s a lucky son of a bitch.Who knows

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 27, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

We probably don’t have this inning w/o Castillo blowing off Shines.

by Chickendirt on Jul 27, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know.

And he’s a lucky son of a bitch.

by anonymous on Jul 27, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is a stupid, lucky son of a bitch

and these moves inevitably fail more often than not. One of the reasons why we don’t score much despite our still decent team OBP is that Jerry gives away outs at every opportunity

Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa

by GenJackRipper on Jul 27, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let me get set for the post game.

This oughta be interesting.

Catch you guys tomorrow.

by fxcarden on Jul 27, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Omar

Acted as lightning rod, allowing team to relax and win.

by wobatus on Jul 27, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

1973: Ya Gotta Belive!

2009: Ya Gotta Run through Razor, Mute Omar, Duck Tony, Nod as if Listening to Jerry and then Do What Needs to be Done. ™

by Kepler on Jul 27, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Baseball Tonight starting up

Can’t wait for the Omar recap…LOL…

by Mex_17 on Jul 27, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

late to the board

just wanted to say i got back from watching at my friends place (huge rockies fan) and it was the greatest moment ever to see tatis blast one with the bases loaded and for francoeur to WALK (even if they didnt give him a choice in the matter). Going to the game tomorrow, hope to see another game like this.

by KeithsMoustache on Jul 27, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Fun thread to read

These threads now constitute my morning at work and it kills a solid half hour. Good to see how everyone was horrified by Tatis ph at first, and then elated, just like me. Keep up the good work, guys!

by David G on Jul 28, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

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