Carlos Beltran Could Return In August
Per a report by Marty Noble for MLB.com, Carlos Beltran figures he has another two-and-a-half weeks of rehab left before he'll be ready to rejoin the Mets.
"That's what I have in mind. That's my goal." He said his problematic right knee has responded favorably to a recently-increased workload, and that his body feels energized and generally better since he intensified the workouts about two weeks ago. He acknowledged his schedule was tentative, but he seemed more encouraged than he was before the All-Star break and willing to deal with the pain his bruised knee presents.
Wearing a brace on the knee, Beltran said, "Being pain-free is unrealistic right now. Being able to come back 100 percent is not going to happen. ... Eighty, 85 percent, I'll take that. I feel I can manage myself like that. That is fine with me."
Beltran has been on the disabled list since June 22 but is considered a gigantic crybaby for failing to play through the pain of a potentially career-threatening injury to his knee.
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I'd rather he sit back, enjoy a few margaritas, and get healthy.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Schmidtxc on Jul 29, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ditto
Oh Carlos B. As much as we all know you are better at 80 percent than Angel Pagan or Jeremy Reed at 100 percent, do not rush back this year at the possible risk of your career.
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by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 29, 2009 11:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
For the record, I love Beltran
… but can someone please explain to me how this is a “potentially career-threatening injury?” I’m not trying to call Carlos a pussy or any other such thing, I just can’t seem to find any decent information about why a bone bruise in so serious.
by magisme on Jul 29, 2009 11:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The bone bruise is due to cartilidge damage, a much more serious issue.
The main issue is that there is so little cartilidge left that he’s suffering bruises. The surgery to repair that would be microfracture surgery, which Basketball players like Penny Hardaway and Amare Stoudamire have had. Sometimes it works, sometimes the joint never heals. It’s fairly serious, and had ended a good number of athletes careers.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Schmidtxc on Jul 29, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
All sources Will Carroll
From March 2008:
Now it’s the issue that’s most problematic for Carlos Beltran as he continues to struggle a bit after minor bilateral knee surgeries. Beltran reports that he feels the most discomfort when he’s stopping, and doesn’t “feel stable” when he’s starting either
May 09
A greater matter of concern is Beltran’s situation. He played through a knee injury that has been diagnosed as a bruise to his tibial plateau. That’s the ‘top’ of the bone, where most would say it’s the knee, and where the load from the body is born. Yes, that means that the cushioning inside failed for some reason, and that the bruise was probably caused by the femur slamming into it enough to cause damage. That’s very bad in the long term, especially if Beltran’s meniscus has a deficit. (I couldn’t find if he’s had a previous meniscectomy, though I’m sure you’ll chirp in comments.) If there’s no cushioning, this will continue to be a problem, with grinding as well as the occasional traumatic injury such as a bruise or worse, a fracture. I think that we have to take a year or two off the back end of Beltran’s career unless he finds something like Synvisc or microfracture to reduce some of the damage. For now, he’ll miss a couple of games after a cortisone injection, but the team thinks he’ll be able to avoid the DL.
June 22
The other big factor now is the continued problem with Beltran and his chronically sore knees. He’s is headed for an MRI on Monday, but he played through the weekend… and played well! Beltran’s knees have lost a lot of cushion, so much so that he’s occasionally had bruising where the femur hits the tibial plateau. That’s very bad long term, and not a good sign in the short term either. There has been discussion of possible fixes like Synvisc, or even a more radical procedure (video link). Beltran has two more years to go on his Mets contract, but it includes a lot of deferred money. He could be a good fit for a deal to an AL club this offseason.
June 23
The MRI on Beltran showed that the bone bruise in his knee was getting bigger. This led to two things. First, the Mets put him on the DL, and then Joel Sherman tweeted that it made him think of this classic. So we get some good with the bad. As I stated yesterday, Beltran’s knee has been problematic for a while, leading some to wonder if he can stay in center field or if he can even stay in the game long-term. I mentioned a meniscal transplant, but actually the most likely off-season scenario might be for Beltran to have microfracture surgery. This is precisely the type of situation where the operation does the most good, but the results in baseball have been mixed, and there’s no good comparable player for a plus defender like Beltran. The Mets will now focus on his rehab and just hope that maintenance and rest keep him productive. The team expects him back just after the All-Star break.
June 30
Everything I’ve read about Beltran heading to Vail has had a decidedly negative aspect to it. Yes, having Beltran in the home of microfracture surgery is certainly not something you’d want if given a choice, but the knee problem was already extant; worse, it was already recurrent. When he went onto the DL, this was always a possibility. What’s making this so negative is that people are speaking about it as if it’s an inevitability rather than just a possibility. Both Beltran and (to some extent) the Mets are speaking with some of the best orthopedic surgeons in the world about a procedure that could help one of their best players get back on the field. There’s not much of a track record of microfracture procedures in baseball—the demands aren’t the same as in basketball or football—but it has been reasonably successful. The questions now become if microfracture would in fact help Beltran, and then whether or not it can be delayed until the offseason.
I apologize if this was too much info and again everything comes from Will Carroll via free content at baseballprospectus.com
by Sokojoe on Jul 29, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for
shutting him down and having microfracture surgery.. It’s gotten much better in its effectiveness. If he doesn’t have this, he may never be the same.
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Jul 30, 2009 12:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hmm
I would’ve done surgery weeks ago. I hate seeing athletes sit around and wait to see, and then lose part of the next season. There really is nothing in sports that pisses me off more than that.
ain't had enough...
by BlackOps on Jul 30, 2009 12:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Blame the training staff
these are the same people who told JJ. Putz to play with a bone spur in his elbow and gave him nothing but a cortisone shot. If they let Beltran get the surgery-which I agree he should have-it would have crushed the arguments and hopes of all those people saying “one the big three come back we’ll be great, etc.” Letting Beltran get surgery and miss most if not all of the rest of the season, while intelligent, would look like admitting defeat to the ravenous body of Met fans and journalists who might stop buying tickets if the season is conceded.
Also, I’m curious, when did all this nonsense about Carlos being soft come from? What evidence is there for it? I’ve never seen any evidence personally, and I don’t know who first made the accusation, fans, press, or empty talking heads on WFAN. Anyone know for certain?
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Jul 30, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dunno but the most outrageous claims were
after he bashed his head in on Mike Cameron and was back on the field almost instantaneously. That he continues to resort to “85%” comments don’t help his rep though.
This whole thing sucks. He probably shouldn’t be playing on this.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jul 30, 2009 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that is nonsense
I saw that collision, scariest thing I ever saw on the field, PEople should be thankful it didn’t put him off baseball all together. Some people are so ungrateful
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Jul 31, 2009 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I literally become infuriated
when people make comments that Beltran isn’t tough. I truly believe he is the toughest player in baseball, but because everything seems so natural for him, people assume he plays half-heartily. He’s played every game, it seems, as a Met with an injury and as you said, played six days later after one of the worst collisions in the sport’s history. If Beltran could play, he’d play, he wants to play, he has a desire to play.
And he’s a spectacular player too.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Jul 31, 2009 4:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the info, Schmidtxc and Sokojoe
although now I’m much more worried about this injury than I was last night.
by magisme on Jul 30, 2009 8:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it would have been wonderful,
if when Will Ferrell asked John C Reilly if he was a chick, who was the one guy he would sleep with, Dale and Brennan both burst out with…… Carlos Beltran!
B: Did we just become best friends?
D: Yup!
"It's like the old phrase goes.....The balls in your court now Mr.Church, so you take that ball, you dribble it up the court and....................................... get a layup"
- Keith Hernandez
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