Trade Deadline Open Thread
by Eric Simon on Jul 31, 2009 12:58 PM EDT
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PrintFeel free to use this space to chat about potential deals, bogus rumors, and what retarded moves Omar Minaya might make by 4pm today.
Additionally, I'll be spending some time at Baseball Think Factory answering questions on their trade deadline panel, along with SBN-ers Jeff Sullivan of Lookout Landing, John Sickels of Minor League Ball, Adam Morris of Lone Star Ball and Sky Kalkman of Beyond The Boxscore.
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wow there is so much fail in that trade
its not even funny.
What would have been this year's equalivent?
like F! and Parnell for Kazmir?
or Holt and Green for Rios?
wasn't that on Metsblog?
I still have it on my RSS reader. That’d be a solid move, though.
Except reversed to the Mets favor
by James Kannengieser on Jul 31, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course.
For the last two weeks though, Frenchy > Church.
It’s going to get ugly when Frenchy cools off.
by The 'Ropolitans on Jul 31, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't even think it has been Frenchy > Church
With the bat, sure, but hasn’t Church’s defense made him worth some tiny number of runs more than Frenchy?
Murton for Reed would be solid— not that it has a chance in hell of actually happening.
Frenchy's a Met now...
The defensive gaffes come with the uniform. I think Charlie Samuels hands out stone hands with the uniforms.
by The 'Ropolitans on Jul 31, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
No they don't come with the uniform.
He’s just not a good fielder. Endy Chavez rarely made defensive gaffes.
by All Shook Down on Jul 31, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah Matt Murton
World series here we come
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 31, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
I think I am more worried that Omar WILL do something.
this
Omar will get a gold star if he doesn’t become emotional and make an irrational decision. Sad the grading scale is so curved.
by cuseindahuse on Jul 31, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Improve them for what?
A third place finish instead of fourth? Finishing 5 games out of the WC rather than 7?
by Reg Dunlop on Jul 31, 2009 1:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Victor would solidfy a spot.
I doubt the Mets are going for him, but Victor would solve a whole lotta grief behind the plate. Kazmir would be fun to bring in just from the “I can sleep again.” perspective. I’m OK with F! going for a good hitting player, but I don’t want to see multiple prospects go just cause of one 5-game streak.
You may have Utley, Howard, Rollins, Hamels, and Lidge...but, WE have Fernando Tatis, baby. Two grand slames in one inning. Hello??
With this management staff
I feel more confident in doing nothing, than making a trade.
"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-
Kazmir
All irony aside, isn’t it possible that picking up Kazmir could be a smart move for now and the medium term? Obviously depends on what they trade for him, but I imagine his trade value must be near it’s all-time low (previously observed on 7/30/04).
Next years starting 5?
Johan
Pelf
Kazmir
Maine
Niese
Deal Ollie for a bag of balls and used gum and you have a solid five next year.
No night spent pantsless is a wasted night.
Maine's done
Johan
Kaz
Pelf
Niese
Ollie
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 31, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Kazmir is probably hurt.
So the Rays figure it’s a perfect fit for the Mets medical staff.
Makes 2 starts.
Complains of shoulder “discomfort”
Takes a cortisone shot
misses next start
tries side session, feel more discomfort
15 day DL
sees Dr. Andrews…..no structural problems found…….“shoulder weakness”.
surgery on the following Tuesday.
Yeah
which is why Omar will never do it.I would love to see Kaz wearing the New York black jersey pitching at Citi
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 31, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Parnell for Seth Smith
That’s my 2 cents.
by David G on Jul 31, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Joe and Evan are in love
Does Victor Martinez have a fan club? I think they’d start it if he was in orange and blue.
by The 'Ropolitans on Jul 31, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions
I know they are over the top with it
But, I have no problems with the mets getting Victor Martinez, if the price is right.
If the price is right, I'd drive to Cleveland (Ew) to pick him up
You guys might need to chip in for gas money, though. And bean burritos
by The 'Ropolitans on Jul 31, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like he may be going to Beantown
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
ohferchrissake.
Post hoc, ergo propter Omar?
Since the trade
0.3 WAR for Church
0.2 WAR for Francoeur
by All Shook Down on Jul 31, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
What about Varitek?
You may have Utley, Howard, Rollins, Hamels, and Lidge...but, WE have Fernando Tatis, baby. Two grand slames in one inning. Hello??
The Mets should trade for V-Tek!!!!!!
Sigh.
by The 'Ropolitans on Jul 31, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
How sad is that?
Schneider is so close to slipping below Mendoza line.
V-Tek: .239 / .346 / .458, 13 HR, 44 RBI
by The 'Ropolitans on Jul 31, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
i think we'll make some token move to say
“look at us, we’re still a team of buyers” but won’t do anything exciting with this deadline.
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions
I hope not
C’mon Omar, for once in your life be selfless and think of your team not your job
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Jul 31, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Why?
So we trade prospects to finish third in the division and fifth in the WC instead of fourth and 8th?
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
You could make a trade
for next year and years to come.Like trading for Kaz or Craw
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 31, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
farsighted trades are fine
but i want to see them get someone who can help this team for at least 2 or 3 years, and that actually makes sense, not just a trade for the sake of “shaking things up”
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree
but he’s not going to come cheap
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Like Crawford!
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
id rather he sits on his hands
than deals away mejia, holt, thole,F!, or niece for a sack of magic beans
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Jul 31, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
reyes for eckstein
do it omar.
by i gave chipper's wife a hot carlos on Jul 31, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions
haha i'd actually make that trade
even though my grandma has a better arm than eckstein… and she’s dead
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Imagine
Omir and Eckstein on the same team.So much Grit
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 31, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
BREAKING: KAZMIR AND APOLOGY TO METS FOR PEREZ
Stipulation is “we’re all good now”.
You may have Utley, Howard, Rollins, Hamels, and Lidge...but, WE have Fernando Tatis, baby. Two grand slames in one inning. Hello??
WHOOOO'S KIDDING WHOOOO?!!?
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 31, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh please
NO!!!!!!
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 31, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Dye is better than better than Laroche
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 31, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
thats right
I forgot Dye is signed for 2010.
I meant in actual playing baseball ability. Its close, and that is not saying much for either.
if we end up having to trade for martinez, and then trade him for laroche
thats about the stupidest deal ever
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I can see would he would help
But all Omar can get is LaRoche?Call the Rays and see what they want
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 31, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
this is going to be that token deadline trade
i said they would make earlier in this thread. Look at us we’re “buyers” lets just hope this attempt to save face doesnt bite us in the ass
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
from the same guy that said we were getting kazmir and matt murton
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
"Mets Getting Adam LaRoche?"
Joe Demayo just told me he heard Mets will be obtaining Adam LaRoche from Boston – details to follow. Working on finding out more info.
Update 2:25 PM
Joe reported that Rosenthal was on MLB Radio and said a deal has been worked out with Mets pending Boston obtaining Victor Martinez. Obviously, details are to follow. But this is what we are hearing. I personally am not a huge fan of LaRoche.
WORST. TRADE DEADLINE EVER.
Think we could re-route his plane to pittsburgh and pull off a LaRoche switch?
If we gave up a nothing prospect and don't have to pay him, I'll take it
But anything else NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
by Pat Andriola on Jul 31, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Adam LaRoche?
He’s a 1B…that’s good. I don’t see how this changes the team except, like with Francoeur, we’;re looking to put a natural 1B at 1B.
You may have Utley, Howard, Rollins, Hamels, and Lidge...but, WE have Fernando Tatis, baby. Two grand slames in one inning. Hello??
Can someone other than NYBD back this up?
Or, like we all seem to prefer, bust this rumor?
by The 'Ropolitans on Jul 31, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Fangraphs has LaRoche at a .366 wOBA the rest of the way
But in the “Friends with Beltran” factor he’s a negative zillion!
by Pat Andriola on Jul 31, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah sure, for a bag of balls and some of Omar's favorite gum (make your brain dumb style)
it just looks like the Sox would want to dump him. From starting in Pittsburgh, to bench in Boston to starting with the Mets. What does that tell you about ourorganization
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Clay Buchholz better be in the deal
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 31, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions
you mean we get Clay Bucholz?
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
We are not getting Buchholz
It was sarcasm.
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 31, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
What are we going to do with TJ Hooker(Murphy)
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 31, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions
wait for his babip to regress
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
I'm fine with LaRoche if we don't have to give up anything.
I mean that quite literally…I don’t even want to give up minor league roster filler for him.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
A prospect for LaRoche straight up?
They’d never do that. Bucholz might be included perhaps. I wonder if Murphy would go?
You may have Utley, Howard, Rollins, Hamels, and Lidge...but, WE have Fernando Tatis, baby. Two grand slames in one inning. Hello??
are you high?
they won’t event trade buchholz for vmart
by Pat Andriola on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope they're at least giving somebody decent up
Tired of the Yanks and Phils and Sox getting good players for crap
God dam you Omar Minaya
May you make like Ugueth Urbina and go to jail.
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 31, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions
I like Urbina now
Since his kid is one of our prospects
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
More blooper reals
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
better than francoeur or sullivan
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
wait.... murph in the OF is better than frenchy or sullivan?
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
he runs fine routes
his hands were the issue
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
Especially on the
line drive that went over his head in left when he slipped.
He just looks so natural in the infield, I’d even try him on second if castillo went down.
i agree
i think he’s better as a utility infielder if he cant stay at first, than putting him in OF where he’s clearly not comfortable
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Look at this Range UZR at every position
They’re above average. He’s just prone to making errors. Even his MiLB TZ numbers in really small samples showed that he did better in the OF and at 2B.
And you can’t judge someone on one play for heaven’s sake. Albert Pujols sucks because Stokes made him GIDP!
by All Shook Down on Jul 31, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
True
He had some range in the outfield, but he didn’t look very natural and made some routine plays look very strange.
I take little stock from his defensive metrics from about 50 games in a new park. Soon when they get FieldFx we will have more concrete evidence to rate players defense.
Who gives a damn how someone looks?
It’s about how they perform. This organization has always cared too much about how a player looks.
by All Shook Down on Jul 31, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
He played left field like a drunk one-legged hobo.
The fact that he “looked” so unnatural resulted in some lousy play.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
how would Jerry figure that out? They're both lefties
your hurting Jerry’s brain
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably plays third
to give Wright some rest
We're not going to win the LaRoche deal
cause Epstein is not an idiot, and Omar is. What does over the monster say?
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
Epstein is not that bright
Hate to break that news to some folks. He put Manny on Waivers like three times. If Manny got picked up the first time there no way the Sox win the WS in 04. That drought still continues.
Agreed
For all the flack Dan Duquette got Epstein sure seemed to have a lot of success with Danny D’s fuck ups.
Problem with Duquette was that he was very aloof with the press. The Sox ownership at the time restricted the team from making moves mid season when they had to.
what?
Your absolute knowledge of counterfactuals is impressive, but what’s your source for this?
The fact that I've lived near Fenway Park for 12 years...
I’m two blocks away.
I’ve also worked at the Millenium Building where a lot of the owners and players live.
I bartended at The Fours on Canal street and a lot of the Sox beat writers used to come in there for drinks. Particuarly Dan Shaughnessy who I’ve had many conversations with about this issue.
and you can see Russia from your front porch?
You’re arguing we should accept your assertions about what the Red Sox would’ve accomplished on the field, after a series of roster moves, over multiple seasons of imaginary baseball counterfactuals, because of where you live?
Seriously?
Explain Ortiz and how that was a smart pick up
He needed Roids to boost up his numbers. He was a washed up Bench player in Minnesota.
Are you saying that Epstein counted on steroids for the Sox success?
I understand how people like you think things like this.
And if I overheard you saying such uninformed things at a bar, I would ignore it.
But this is not a bar.
Ortiz was an undervalued player. Epstein took a flier on him and it worked out. It happened all the damn time. Carlos Pena. Josh Hamilton. Etcetera. Steroids had nothing, or next-to-nothing to do with it.
by JohnPeterson on Jul 31, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It TOOK STEROIDS for Ortiz to work out
Get it?
Without Steroids Ortiz is out of the game right now.
Oh, and much of the same things I am writing here are the same things you would hear from some of the red sox beat writers.
HELLO!!!!
STEROIDS!!!!!
Bob Ryan? Dan Shaughnessy?
These “writers” are a blight to the population.
by James Kannengieser on Jul 31, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Shuanessy is kinda like Wallie Mathews
but face to face he’s nothing like what you see in print or on NESN.
He’s actually really a bright guy and mellow. A lot of his writing is just about sticking a needle in so to speak. Mathews and Baumbauch are kinda the same way with their writing.
So, STEROIDS = MAGIC?
I see. I guess that explains the awesome career comebacks of Neifi Perez, Wilson Delgado, and Abraham Nunez.
by JohnPeterson on Jul 31, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
so if you keep shouting it in all-caps, it becomes more logical?
Seriously, can you even explain what you’re arguing here? The Sox would’ve never gotten anywhere without Manny, because… why?
I'm trying to sink the point into you
The Steroids scandal does not just mar the game.
It also impacts the way we evaluate the players as well as GMs.
Epstein is no genius. I think a lot of people have a legit gripe that these juicers have probably stolen a few WS in the past. And there is a legit argument to be made that without Roids the fortunes of Epstein and the Red Sox would be very different today.
But
Doesn’t the fact that other players and teams were juicing during that time frame basically cancel that point out?
How many of them
in 04 only 104 tested positive and those players appear to have played for a select few teams.
One of the major distributors was a MA state trooper.
Also, how many 40-50 HR hitters did we have on the Mets at this time? Not many.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we had a few Roiders here but it seems like all the juicers were playing for Boston, NYY and Texas. The Yankees have had about 8 on that list.
I think Eddie Murray was a Roider
he was on the 93 Mets.
He’s one that I suspect.
Is it too late to
dig up Babe Ruth and test his DNA for roids? The whole thing is just absurd at this juncture.
Top of my head
Todd Pratt, Todd Hundley, Schoeneweis, Mota, Matt Franco, Paul Lo Duca, Len Dykstra, Mike Stanton
Not that I really care that they used PEDs.
by James Kannengieser on Jul 31, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Epstein may be overrated,
But Omar is still Omar.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Right.
Epstein may not be perfect, but he is an intelligent professional who is committed to applying advanced metrics and careful, businesslike, cost-benefit considerations to his player personnel moves. Omar is a crappy minor league infielder who charmed his way into a career as a baseball executive and is years into a purposeless, destructive tour as Mets’ General Manager.
by JohnPeterson on Jul 31, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
He hired someone else to apply those "advanced metrics"
and that now comes with a huge question mark given the roids in the Sox locker room.
The steroid scandal has turned the game upside down where that is questionable as it’s reliability.
Epstein had a lot of Roiders to thank for his successes. David Ortix was a HUGE part of that.
Tell me exactly how the steroid scandal turned 'the game' upside down.
Stories written by the mainstream media and morons on sports talk radio do not constitute baseball.
by All Shook Down on Jul 31, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
No.
First of all, teams put lots of their players on waivers all the time. It’s to see who’s interested, and if a deal can be worked out.
Secondly, Epstein felt that Manny was simply not worth his contract and was far too much of a defensive liability. He was right.
by JohnPeterson on Jul 31, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
He was wrong
There’s no way the Sox win two WS without Manny on that team.
But someone not as highly rated.
Bay is nearly > Ramirez.
Epstein was trying to move Manny for years. And it had nothing to do with him being a “distraction.”
by JohnPeterson on Jul 31, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
It also appears that Epstein owes a lot to STEROIDS
for the Red Sox successes.
David Ortiz was washed up before coming to Boston where he started juicing.
No Roids for Ortiz and no comeback in 04.
The decision to put Manny on Waivers had nothing to do with "finding trade value" in him
He had a massive contract at the time and they felt they weren’t going to get anything for him.
They did not put him on Waivers to build trade value. They put him on Waivers so someone could take that contract of their hands. Ramirez was a Dan Duquette signing not an Epstein signing. The new ownership as well as Epstein saw it as an alabatross.
But haven't you heard?
You sound right to me, but:
STEROIDS!!!!!!
Which apparently means you’re wrong, somehow.
I'm just making shit up though
and me living in Boston and having been able to follow that team closely for the last 15 years wouldn’t have anything to do with having a better view of what goes on here.
Forms of Media that Have Information About the Boston Red Sox:
Radio
Newspapers
College Frat-Douches
Television
The Internet
by JohnPeterson on Jul 31, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
but also, places where special privileged knowledge is attained:
Boston Bars
Boston Office Buildings
Residences Within Two Blocks of Fenway
Try actually sitting down with a beat writer off the cuff
Oh, and much of what I’ve posted can be found on line as well.
See “Manny put on Waivers to dump salary”.
Living in an area where there is wall to wall converage of a team helps
Maybe Omar should just look to get some prospects
Perhaps a catcher that can at least hit .250
if Omar believed catchers should be able to hit...
he wouldn’t have traded the one we had that could
Omir=Grission, playing through pain Castro= Lazy, and in Beltran style can't play injured
Grission>hitting
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I miss Castro
Notice how the pitching went south after he left?
If they were supposed to be able to hit
they would be called hitters not catchers.
We have our catcher
His name is Josh Thole
by Pat Andriola on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
he can't catch
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
where have you been
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
I thought they all said he's not good at catching
But I’d like to bring him up. Instead of Omir/Robinson Cancel
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Red
Boston gets Victor Martinez. Cleveland gets Masterson and other prospects. AND WE GET BOSTONS SPARE CRAP.
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions
much better than our starters
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Francoeur and now LaRoche?
Apparently Omar is using a sabermetric approach after all — based on a new, complicated stat called K.
no, he's going for French players.
It’s the new movement. Instead of hispanics, we get French
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Best OBP Lineup: Pierre LF, Reed CF, Francoeur RF, Tatis 3b, Berroa ss, Argenis Reyes 2b, and Omir Catching
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Wright can spell Tatis when he needs a day off
Throw in Livan pitching to that lineup.
by James Kannengieser on Jul 31, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
make him a catcher
he’d be great at blocking the plate
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
crap
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
LaRoche has a .772 OPS and is a much better 2nd half hitter
And he walks way, way, way more than Francoeur
But Frenchy has two 100 rbi's season
People keep telling me that means something
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 31, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
which is awful for a firstbaseman
fml
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
Projected .366 wOBA the rest of the way
I mean, if he doesn’t cost much $$/prospect wise, how can it hurt compared to what we have?
by Pat Andriola on Jul 31, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
JOE DEMAYO
is the one reporting it
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
by Sam Page on Jul 31, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Who cares
neither is going to lead us to VICTOLY
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
Yeah
But marginal improvement is nice. He wouldn’t be a bad stopgap for Ike Davis and he’d help us compete in 2010 without spending in the off-season
Not a bad guy to pick up for cheap at all
by Pat Andriola on Jul 31, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not signed for 2010
He’s a free agent at the end of the year
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2004/12/boston-red-sox.html
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
isn't he eligible for arbitration
5 years of MLB service
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
no
he’s a free agent
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
this was his third year of arb, and he wasn't a super-two
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
No reason to give up anything for a rental
unless it’s another impending free agent or a DFA candidate.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, whats the point of a mediocre rental 1st baseman
why would we need to give up anything for that if he’ll be gone at the end of the season
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Whats the point of a mediocre rental anything?
The playoffs are a long shot
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
i suppose i was too specific with 1st baseman
but it applies to all positions
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
oh god, are we really trading for future compensatory picks?
i’ll bet thats omars strategy
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
He won't qualify
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
why not?
I mean, as much as I’m making fun of him, he’s not a TERRIBLE player. Will probably end this season with 20 HR 5 years in a row, good defensive 1B.
I'll link the elias rankings when MLBTraderumors stops crashing
I think their servers are probably on the brink of a meltdown right now. LaRoche wasn’t ranked that well though.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Link
http://www.scribd.com/doc/17870577/Rankings-073009
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks for linking that
he’s in the “no compensation” zone now, but not too far from the B zone. like Eric said, he could be a type B.
You'd risk giving him a 10 million dollar contract with arb
And he’s not getting that kind of offer on the open market. I doubt he nets any picks.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
you really think he'd get that much in arb?
I don’t really know how to assess that, but if that’s the case then it doesn’t make much sense to take that risk
He gets 8 million now
20% raise is pretty standard if he matches last years #’s
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
career OPS
.824, career post-All Star OPS, .899 (and this is a rare case where the seasonal split seems legit, as it is almost like clockwork for this guy-maybe he is seasonal effective disorder).
We didn’t get him anyway, but laroche is certainly a step above what the Mets had been running out there. But likely not worth much for a renatl.
If LaRoche is coming
The Mets better trade Beltran. Don’t want any anger in the clubhouse!!
/sarcasm
by The 'Ropolitans on Jul 31, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions
If that's the case
then we have to trade Socks because him and Billy don’t like each other
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 31, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Vargas just got traded to Milwaukee
Dodgers had to make room for George Sherrill
Remember the good old days of Vargas
Vargas who?
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
oh wow. Claudio Vargas.
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Why cant we get someone like Mark Teahan?!?!
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 31, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions
a potato is better than berroa
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Best comment today
Rec’d
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
That's giving Berroa a lot of credit
Linking him to something that was once a living organism.
by The 'Ropolitans on Jul 31, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Let alone
one as versatile and delicious as the potato.
by Eric Simon on Jul 31, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i apologize everyone
i did not mean to slight the awsomeness of the venerable potato.
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Mr.Bean is better than Berroa
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 31, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
+1000000000
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Jul 31, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
A) T-E-A-H-E-N
B) He’s really not a very good hitter, hasn’t been since 2006
by JoshNY on Jul 31, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
still, he was in that book once
What ever happened to Scott Hatteberg, Pickin’ Machine? maybe we can still get him, at least?
How bad
does that Texiera trade look for Atlanta gave up a ton of prospects to get him and got very little in return for Texiera
uh very bad
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
Kotch has been pretty mediocre
.267 / .346 / .378 / .724 in 130 games
Not that LaRoche would be an upgrade.
by The 'Ropolitans on Jul 31, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Mediocre is putting it lightly.
Very lightly.
by The 'Ropolitans on Jul 31, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I really like Teahen
He can play every infielder and his hitting stats are good for middle infield this year.
not really
He’s never played SS in the majors, played poorly in 3 games at 2B, and is a career -9.1 UZR/150 at 3B (his “primary” position). 1B is the only infield position he plays well, and his bat isn’t good for a 1B.
so he takes their money through trickery?
He can play every infielder
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
I don't like him at all
We already have Murphy, anyway. With all the people bitching about how he can be a utility infielder, what would be the point in getting Teahen?
ain't had enough...
I laughed so hard I farted after I read this:
…and what retarded moves Omar Minaya might make by 4pm today.
I love “Deadline Day”.
looks like red sox have finished some deal..possibly the martinez one
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions
What do you think about Washburn in Detriot
You think his ERA will rise a full run after his first start there
Washburn has been pretty lucky this season
His LD% vs BABIP smacks of serious regression forthcoming.
And moving out of Seattle isn't going to help him much
I’m going to guess E.R.A of 4.5 by seasons end
At least it looks like Atlanta wants LaRoche
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions
Then we can keep our Potatoes
Win-Win for Murph
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I miss John Olerud
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 31, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
tsuyoshi (sorry for the spelling error)
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I miss Mike Piazza
But hey, don’t we all.
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 31, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
EDES VIA TWITTER
Gordon Edes: The Red Sox have traded 1B Adam LaRoche to the Braves.
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
by Sam Page on Jul 31, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Glad Omar is still trying to figure out how to dial Theo's #
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Espescially when you can't count to 10
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
So much for that
Hey Omar call the god damn Rays
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 31, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the Rays thing
was based on their interest in Martinez
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
They're still in the hunt
I think that desire was to clear space for other players
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it was based on
Madeup crap by bad Mets blogs
by Pat Andriola on Jul 31, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
But Heilman and Rubin
both failed their physicals!
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jul 31, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Castillo for Fontenot?
Cubbies need some OBP guys don’t they? This is as high as Castillo’s stock will ever get. I hope they at least explored some trades with him.
At least he didn't get LaRoche
They’re pretty pissed over at Talking Chop
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
my Braves friends wanted LaRoche
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
I'd personally be pretty happy if he's lost his phone
I can’t see anything good coming out of a trade today
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
especially since anything at this point will be kneejerk and last minute
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Omar......PLEASE drop your phone in the toilet!!!!!
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jerry Hairston is a Skankee
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Would you have gone for Beimel?
Lefty, walk year, Nationals.
eh?
by The 'Ropolitans on Jul 31, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
why do the mets need a reliever
If the Mets were a LHP away – I would do it (I actually thought they should’ve signed Beimel when he was left in March) but they’re arent and they have Misch and Bostik in AAA.
I'd like to see Bostick
Just wrote about him.
Having a good 2009. (07 and 08 were awful, though)
by The 'Ropolitans on Jul 31, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont have really strong feelings
on Bostick v. Misch, but I don’t think upgrading at the 2nd LHP in the pen was something the Mets needed to do today.
Kenny, can I speak with Michael Jackson through the void?
by TheBigStapler on Jul 31, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Kenny, can you ask Harry Kalas how the whiskey is in Heaven?
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!
I love how Boston's Gm has one of the best teams in baseball
and still does something to help his team.And Omar has a team gasping for a wild card and can’t even make 1 small upgrade
Omar forgot to set his alarm clock.
He’s probably still sleeping.
by Grits on Jul 31, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Omar : “oh was that trade deadline thing today… i forgot, you know what i mean… there will be an investigation into why i was not reminded”
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Especially American cash, nowadays.
I hear the Canadian dollar is worth more than ours.
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!
Good for us or them?
Askin’ because I’m not good at economics.
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!
oh, good
Maybe we can derail this thread into economics crankery as well as steroid rants?
Where da gold at?
I want the gold, give ME the gold
by James Kannengieser on Jul 31, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you describe the leprechaun?
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 31, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
$$$$$$
Cash money
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
the pirates are just the extended farm system
for the rest of baseball
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm
get rid of old players who have no future on the team before they lose value/get released to free agency? I’m not sure I understand how Pittsburgh is getting bashed for these trades… this is the first time they’ve done something in like 10 years.
ain't had enough...
The Nyjer Morgan trade was dumb, though
He’s young, and coming into his own. Milledge isn’t an upgrade over him.
the exact opposite is true, actually
Morgan is Endy Chavez. Milledge is the young one, and has tons of potential.
If I'm not mistaken,
Nyjer Morgan played hockey, didn’t he?
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!
Correct
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 31, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I kinda like the deal for the Pirates
but I just looked and Morgan is nearly a 4-win player this year. That blew my mind.
ain't had enough...
Last deadline trade that worked for us?
I’m thinking it was Kenny Rogers in ’99. But that only worked until a certain game 6 walk. But he was like 5-1 down the stretch.
I liked the Castillo trade
The contract that followed, however, was a terrible decision.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing's gone right since that trade in Aug. '07
Not his fault, but it’s true. Well, ’08 was a little his fault.
I'm fine with castillo
I’m fine with 6 million per year. I hate 4 years though.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Nady for Perez/Roberto Hernandez was a good one (Nady had awesome '08, nothing else)
We got Luis Castillo for nothing (can’t include contract as part of trade as he was re-signed to the deal)
by Pat Andriola on Jul 31, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
It was Kotchman for LaRoche!!!!
Hahahahaha
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:32 PM EDT reply actions
Thats just retarded
Might as well trade Kelly Johnson for Felipe Lopez
NESN website
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd be for calling Theo on Kotch
at least he’s cheap and under team control for a while
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Link
http://www.nesn.com/2009/07/red-sox-adam-laroche-traded-to-braves-for-casey-kotchman.html?mtr
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Pwns Frenchy-for-Church in terms of asinine trades.
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!
not really
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
Red Soxs
needed to make room for Victor Martinez. Braves need more power at first base and LaRoche is some how an upgrade over Kotchman.
Theo made a good move. Now they have more depth for the future
Id rather have Kotchman than Laroche
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 31, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
better fielder
But career OPS is .752 to Laroche’s .828. And does Kotchman have more years left on his contract?
I thought Kotchman would be better than he has been.
Mets should call Rays
Offer them Brian Schneider for Fernando Perez or some B prospect.
I guess we should expect nothing today
I wonder if Wilpon has told Minaya that he doesn’t want him tinkering with the pay roll.
No need. You just need to hold an umbrella over it.
by TheBigStapler on Jul 31, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
That would screw the transmission up even more than ever.
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!
In fact
there’s a small chance you would warp inside the tv world.
by TheBigStapler on Jul 31, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd warp myself into Spongebob Squarepants
if you know what I mean!
by TheBigStapler on Jul 31, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Hm
sounds like you need a bigger umbrella.
by TheBigStapler on Jul 31, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't own one.
They for sissies. I take rain like a man!
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!
When I had my dish installed
the guy “sort of” aligned it by listening to the beeps…..I had like 70% signal strength……could not see TV when it rained….it wasn’t until I did it myself when it worked 100% of the time.
If we somehow combined Sullivan and Reed
into one person who was average at baseball and called him “Sulliveed” we might have something… nah, forget it, he’d still suck.
Thanks for the NESN link
The Boston Red Sox have acquired Cleveland Indians catcher/first baseman Victor Martinez.
In exchange for Martinez, the Red Sox are sending Justin Masterson, Nick Hagadone and Bryan Price to Cleveland.
The lack of movement seems to signal that Minaya is a dead man walking
I wonder if Wilpon no longer trusts him with the payroll at this point.
Hard to say but the lack of movement is really suspiscious.
why?
The Mets have made no trade, therefore Omar is getting fired? Can you explain why you think A implies B here? Something to do with STEROIDS!!!!?
I know you're having a tought time lately
The whole Fancoeur deal and all the bitching over it.
The Boston Red Sox worship as the ulitmate organization and Theo Epstein’s faux success.
You’re denial of positive evidence while producing none yourself.
Yeah, I am merely specualting here. It’s really obvious in my post. As a matter of fact, it’s dripping with it.
You need to calm down as you’re clearly just flailing about right now. Go take a walk.
Okay, I'm done with this.
Posting random speculation and answering simple “why do you think this?” questions with ad hominem bullshit? Thanks for helping make the site a better place.
Ok, I crwon you king of the anthill
We will now post what you say we all should post.
Nothing is ever valid unless it get you approval.
Dude, just take a walk and come back later.
Relax.
I agree with him.
And in case you haven’t noticed, most everyone else does too.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Quote from WFAN
“…or nothing for him like we got for Milledge!”
by The 'Ropolitans on Jul 31, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions
even the REDS are making trades
they just said “the mets dont appear to be doing anything” on the MLB trade deadline coverage
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions
Doesn't looke like Minaya has that job security we thought he had
This is not good for him.
I wonder if Wilpon told him “Hands off the roster”?
Why
do the Mets get singled out? Seems like a lot of teams didn’t make a trade.
Scott Rolen to Reds if...
He waives his no trade clause.
by The 'Ropolitans on Jul 31, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions
I doubt he's a big fan of the turf in Toronto
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
they'll have him next year
maybe try to sign him long term? i guess they think thats a good idea
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes.
And they’re worse off than the Mets.
by The 'Ropolitans on Jul 31, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Scott Rolen is better than Edwin Encarnacion
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 31, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Victor Martinez to sox
for masterson+2 prospects
also, this is funny: New Red Sox LaRoche enjoying his new surroundings. this is on redsox.com
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
still plenty of time to do something excruciatingly stupid
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
nevr count omar out
F! for Bronson Arroyo is still possible
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
So it'll be like Juan Samuel all over again.
Except we’re in a worse position than back then.
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!
I thought it was done after 4
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Lots of trades don't get announced until 4:30 or 5
They just have to be submitted by 4
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
biemel to rox
guess they decided they needed more bullpen help when we got through with them
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions
Mets trade 10 players for Roy Halladay
Wright, Reyes, Beltran, Santana, Niese, F!, Thole, Davis, Holt and Mejia. General Manager Omar Minaya was thrilled with the pick-up, saying, “We were always going to be buyers in this market, you know what I’m saying? And we did a great job in getting the biggest fish of them all, you know what I’m saying? I mean, you know, we have to be front-runners for the NL East and the playoffs with this pick-up, you know what I’m saying?”
/terrified nightmare.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 31, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions
"You guys know me, that's how Omar Minaya rolls."
by The 'Ropolitans on Jul 31, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Uphill
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
AHHHHHHHHH!
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Eckstein, Santos, Reed, and others
GREATEST TEAM EVAAARRRRR
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!
And the rationale for it
“Well, you know ummm
Yeah and there was this deal but me and Wilpon didn’t…
And you see there was this deal proposed and….."
Austion Jackson to Cincy for Hairston?
Jonathan Mayo’s twitter
Austin Jackson?
that can’t be.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 31, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yankees top prospect, right?
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
So I thought
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 31, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not looking
I just don’t buy it on its face.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 31, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Found it on a couple web sites
The post is probably the most credible. I never thought I would say that.
http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/st/archives/2009/07/yanks_get_hairs.html
update
Via Newsday’s Ken Davidoff’s Twitter via MLBTR, Yanks send catcher Chase Weems in the deal.
That's a phenomenal name
It sounds dirty.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 31, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
wishful thinking
You just know Omar would be dealing for Jar-Jar.
I'm still a fan of:
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 31, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be very Duquette-like
Maybe Fatcessa would have to STFU
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Another caller on WFAN...
“If Pedro Martinez was an ex-Phillie, the Mets would have signed him.”
by The 'Ropolitans on Jul 31, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
probably true, sadly
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Ouch!!!
Or a Washington National we would have traded for him….
see you guys on the game thread (or the rainout thread)
it’s coming down big time, and the radar doesn’t look good.
another double header
would mean we’d have to call up Figgy, right? And have Redding make a start. Ughh. Unless Lance Broadway is brought up. He did good in his last start,
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
We're investigating the possibility of investigating a trade that will.
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Adam Rubin's tweet
@lenno212: No #Mets lineup yet. Hmm. Last time this happened, Church was sent to Atlanta.
by The 'Ropolitans on Jul 31, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
Does this mean Rubin is agitating for a position with the Mets as a player?
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 31, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup.
Omar just signed him to a three-year deal, though.
(Anger management is working.)
by The 'Ropolitans on Jul 31, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Jerry can't figure out how to unlock the bathroom door.
He also wrote the lineup on used toilet paper. It could be a while…
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
you he's lobby for a position with Mets
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Omar's excuse for making dumb ass trade
Well we had to make a trade because Adam, now don’t get me wrong Adam but Adam was lobby me and he lobby John Riccio and Jeff that we had to make a trade becasue we didn’t have a lineup, now don’t get me wrong here Adam, but Adam has lobby me and lobby Jeff for a job in Vice President of Baseball Operations, wait thats my job, so we had to make a trade.
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
unless they just didnt announce it yet
looks like we successfully didnt do anything stupid
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
The Mets have signed Julio Franco to an 8 year deal at 8 mill per
gotta keep breaking some old man records.
Coming healines
Today, Julio Franco becomes the oldest man in the history of the game to spit out sunflower seeds between innings.
The 10 day forcast looks real bad, i dont know what will happen
Only 2 of the next 8 days are clear. ouch
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 31, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions
Breaking News OMG!
Omar trades Beltran and Frenchy for Aaron Rowand, then turns around and trades Wright and Reyes for David Eckstein!
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!
Grission infinty. Grission=World Series Champs
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait Wait! This Just In!
Santana traded for Jamie Moyer and Jayson Werth! GRISSION OVERLOAD!!!
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!
+1
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Nick Johnson to FLA
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions
for?
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Minor leaguer I've never heard of
Wash paying his salary too
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF Omar, you couldn't do that you mofo idiot
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He probably could have
Which is why I wonder if the lack of movement signifies that Wilpon has put the restraints on Omar. The Nats seem to be a favorite trade partner of his as well.
Fishy?
No?
I like Johnson
But he’s a rental. I’m fine with passing. He’ll be a free agent this offseason, and Fla won’t re-sign him.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Ive heard that the Mets were interested in Jhonny Peralta
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 31, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions
I'll look for it
I do not know if it was credible or not.
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 31, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Benigno is disgusted
Why? Because they didn’t trade prospects in a futile attempt to push for the playoffs.
Is Joe Benigno familiar with the names Jason Bay and Scott Kazmir?
for what?
I’m fine with hating Omar on general principle, but which of these deals should he have been in on?
I'm glad Omar didn't do anything
I doubt we’d have been able to get much by selling, but I’m sure we’d have overpaid buying.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
I mean, yeah, I’m not exactly a fan of his but I’m okay with him not making any panicked deals.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 31, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
What are you guys talking about.
This is the perfect time to break up the core like Fatcessica always says
I thought it was a perfect time to dump some salary
Castillo is hot and they should have gotten while the gettin was good.
Nik Johnson seemed doable and if they were gonna sit on their hands on that one, they could have dumped some salary at least.
I'm happy that he didn't make any big deals, but I'm pretty pissed that he hasn't done anything
Sullivan, Berroa, Cancel, Livan, etc. on this roster going forward shows a lack of vision and creativity consistent with this franchise for the last several years/GMs.
by All Shook Down on Jul 31, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't forget...
Adam LaRoche doesn’t like Carlos Beltran.
"I was so frustrated [Saturday], I [could have said] anything," ~Oliver Perez
Brian...Stokes...?
Oh, I think I had a dream about a player with that name. He won three Cy Youngs with the Phillies.
"I was so frustrated [Saturday], I [could have said] anything," ~Oliver Perez
by Lance Johnson on Jul 31, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Larohe also ripped the Pirates front office
So it’s not like he dissagreed with Beltran.
But it’s OK so long as LaRoche says it.
He looks like he's doing something inappropriate
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
He must be in Adam Rubin's room
reading his diary in which every entry starts
“Dear Diary today I once again was successful in sabotaging the mets.”
he is, he's driving the mets into the ground
has nothing to do with this picture though.
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
You can always tell a milford man
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Jul 31, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
We didnt buy, We didnt sell
Wasted day.
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 31, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions
Not at all
Why buy a rental? Why sell when we won’t get much of a return?
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to think Feliciano has similar value to Beimel
Beimel brought basically nothing, I can’t see Pedro netting us much. He was probably our best chip, so I’m ok with nothing.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I really like the Martinez deal.
He got 3 pretty good arms for a 1st baseman pretending to be a catcher.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
Masterson has been so-so as a starter, the other two are a long way away and the one guy just got back from TJ surgery.
But, you’re right he didnt get fleeced in the Martinez Deal, just though he might have been able to get a little more from a desparate Boston.
the problem is he kind of got burned the opposite way that Riccardi did by saying: “I need to trade these guys” and he ended up being the one willing to move last to get them done.
He never made any statement saying he needed to trade them...he actually said the opposite.
The media speculated that if one was dealt, the other would be as well. The Indians weren’t going to compete this year, and they were fringy for next. They added quite a bit of talent that should be in the majors next year (Carrasco, Marson, Donald, Masterson), and a few big arms. I really think he did the correct thing, selling now when he could still get something. Riccardi asked a ton for Halladay, and now he’ll be lucky to get as much as Shapiro got for Lee.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
We really could have delt away Castillo
I really think Murphy is showing he can handle second base
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Jul 31, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes I love reading the comments at MetsBlog
Listening to everyone cry about how bad it is that Omar did nothing makes me laugh.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions
Late breaker from Heyman's Twitter:
Jake Peavy returning to the White Sox?
Peavy got dealt to the white sox again
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
Heyman is saying that the White Sox got Peavy (again)
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 4:24 PM EDT reply actions
you believe Heyman?
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
On occasion
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Trading for the sake of making a trade
A lot of people seem to want to have had something go down just because. It’s cliched, but sometimes the best trade is the one you don’t make.
Nik Johnson sounded really doable
Source: Marlins get Nats’ Johnson — 3:53 p.m.
The Marlins have acquired first baseman Nick Johnson for the Nationals for Class AA left-hander Aaron Thompson, according to a major-league source.
The Nationals will pay the approximately $1.8 million remaining on Johnson’s salary.
Johnson is a free agent at the end of the season
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9875596/MLB-trade-deadline-buzz:-Friday/’s-edition
but FA at end of season
means he’s a loaner, why give up a prospect of any level for a couple months with johnson when the playoffs are at best a long shot
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I was reading on another board from Marlins Fans about the guy they gave up in this deal
They are saying he is a long shot with sketchy potential.
Not saying it’s the end all be all on the guy Florida gave up but it sounds like they got Johnson for a B-/C+ prospect.
I really hope Omar wasn't wasting his time looking into Johnson.
He’s been saying all along that Delgado should be back by mid-august, Trading for a rental 1st baseman makes no sense.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Minaya is an idiot if he thinks Delgado
comeing off laproscopic ip surgery is going to make a difference.
Especially at his age.
He's also an idiot if he thinks Nick Johnson is the answer.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
He apparently thinks Delgado is
Today we are three down of Florida.
Six back of San Fran.
We have four games left with San Fran and I think eight with florida.
Johnson is not the end all be all but I like our prospects against those teams much better with him in the lineup. Especially with Beltran on the Verge of returning.
I’d gldaly give up one of our handfull of B-/C+ level prospects for him. Especially if the Nats are gonna pay a chunk of his salary.
I’d gladly add his .295 Avg .408 OBP and .402 SLG %.
At least it makes the middle of our lineup respectable.
Nick Johnson is not a middle of the order hitter.
He’s fine at the top or bottom, but should never be counted on in the middle.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm talking about for now
Not when Beltran gets back.
Johnson has been putting up those numbers getting bounced about between 3-4-5 in the Nats line up.
im still scared that beltran is coming back
to play through pain for the rest of the season. last thing we need is him making his injury worse
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not a middle of the order guy....ever
He’s a table setter who plays good defense, a solid piece. Any team who uses him in the middle of the order will likely be about as successful as the Nats. If the Mets were looking for a piece like him, they should have been on the phone with the Sawx…at least Kotch is under team control for a while.
This is nothing against Johnson, but the Mets aren’t in the thick of the hunt right now. There floating on the outer fringes, and Nick Johnson isn’t a big enough piece to single handedly thrust them into contention. No need to get a rental like him.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
The fish have a very real shot at the playoffs
getting a rental makes sense. We don’t have a real good chance…Going after ANY rental is an awful idea. As much as Thompson is a B prospect at AA, we don’t have a pitcher like that in the system that close to the majors.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
writing on the wall?
But this can only help, adds no payroll
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 31, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Meanwhile . . .
DC sports radio is busy talking about government spending, followed no doubt at 5 for more Redskins talk. So while Joe Benigno might be an idiot, at least they’re talking about baseball during the trade deadline.
Why bother talking about the Nats
when they’re gonna end up in Las Vegas within 10 years?
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 31, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
they should just stop trying to move
If they’d just accept that no single market is big enough for a team as great as the Natinals, they could become baseball’s Harlem Globetrotters, barnstorming, playing a week here and a week there.
Yeah
Just play every game on the road. The Bingo Long Travelling all stars.
by blains2000 on Jul 31, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
or None-Stars, as the case may be
But yeah, it’d be a great sight.
Too bad
They don’t sill have Milledge.
L Millz and his traveling Posse
+1 for the Bingo Long reference
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 31, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't tell if this was sarcasm...
But the new stadium came with a 30 year agreement.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Mixed sarcasm
My opinion is that they’re going to fail miserably in DC, but obviously it’s not like anyone’s really talking about the team moving . . .
. . . yet.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 31, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably sarc
Yeah, they’re not going anywhere. I don’t think MLB would allow them to move. But they better start not stinking sometime soon or else they’re going to start making people pine for the days of the Expos.
Meh
It would have been nice to get someone like Johnson, but Omar was actually smart enough to turn down the Halladay and Martinez deals. (In my opinion, of course.)
2009 Mets---Mission: .500!
I'd have passed on both,
but I think the Halladay deal was much better. I really don’t think Martinez will be a catcher at the end of next year, and he loses a ton of value at 1st.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Could someone refresh my memory as to what happened at least years deadline?
Didn’t Minaya effectivly do the same thing but just make one small move?
I recall him saying that the team had enough to make the post season while it was apparent that the pen was in bad shape.
He got Ayala after the deadline...
Nothing on the 31st. Wagner was still healthy and the bullpen was just starting to fall apart.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I quit
From Metsblog:
Jose Reyes did not run the bases yesterday as expected, with an apparent setback to his injured right hamstring tendon.
Bart Hubbuch, in a post to Twitter, says there is now no timetable for Reyes to run the bases.
Great
Some more good news.OH THE PAIN!!!
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 31, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
fantastic
but now im even more glad we didnt go on a buying spree to try to compete this year.
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
There is more from Metsblog
Mets SS Jose Reyes had a set-back this afternoon, Jerry Manuel told reporters prior to today’s game in Citi Field.
Reyes was unable to run hard around the bases today, Manuel explained, and there is no timetable for when he will do so.
Might be a good thing...just don't rush back.
See you in spring training 2010 Jose.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
wish they'd take the same course with beltran
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
so true
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
HOLY SHIT!!!!
The weather here in Boston just got really nasty!!!!!
It’s like Hurrican force winds outside.
I know. Off topic but it’s really freaky!!!!
Im in Charlestown right no
not that far.
The wind is freakin roaring.
There are tree limbs flying down the street.
Just turned on the news
They are telling everyone to get away from Doors and Windows.
Large hail reported with this.
WTF
what have you done to anger the gods?
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
whats he saying
im still at work, no TV around.
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He looked like a different Omar
Reyes: two steps forward one stpe back
Beltran: we will go by what he tells us
Deadline: needed more players than we could trade for
He looks relieved. DID NOT hear him say “you know”, or “you know what I’m sayin’”
hmm weird
but the statement needed more players than we could trade for at least shows some awareness of the situation theyre in. I wonder if they replaced him with a robot
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
He's wearing ome of the shock collars you can use to train your dog.
It zapped him every time the phone rang.
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone ever watch that show "Whale Wars"?
Omar would fit in perectly with that crew of idiots
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what I'll be watching if we get rained out tonight
"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."
-Jim Fregosi
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Quote from Peavey's agent..
“Frankly I am flabbergasted that the White Sox would want to make this deal with him in his physical condition,”
oh man
thats a good agent right there… at least he waited until AFTER the trade to say that.
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Jul 31, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
yup ive got nothing else to do tonight
need this game to keep me entertained.
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
anyway im gonna make my escape from work
see you all in either the game thread or rainout thread, whichever the case may be
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 31, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions
So I can exhale now, right?
The Mets didn’t make any boneheaded moves in the delusional hope of “contending”?
We didn’t complete the farce by re-acquiring Scott Kazmir?
Good.
Somehow, a chain of events unfolded that put Steve Phillips in a professional broadcast booth Sunday night so he could rip Carlos Beltran. Try to explain that in any other terms.
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