Open Thread: Mets vs Dodgers
Los Angeles Dodgers at New York Mets, Jul 7, 2009 7:10 PM EDT
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Game 1 of the second half
lets hope the Mets can remain close to contention until August, when it is more likely we will get everyone back.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Hope so. But I have a gut feeling that tells me that there is also a problem in the clubhouse.
I think that the team right now is completely rudderless and consumed by finger-pointing. Maybe Delgado, Beltran and some of the other vets can help fix that, but I just have the feeling that this second half is the last run this group will make together.
I first became a Mets fan because of Jose Reyes
the thought of losing him, or any of the core players, just doesn’t feel right.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Well...in that case it still Sums up the mets season thus far
Just not quite coming on. Not hitting the way they should, not pitching, not catching pop ups.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Not available
Like much of the roster?
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
To watch or not to watch this one
That is the question.
Can I bare another game hoping that the next day Jerry Manuel and Omar Minaya are both fire?
And the dissapointment when I wake up the next day to read that both are still here.
That picture of Clayton Kershaw..he looks a lot like Orel Hersheiser
will the Mets make him look like Orel in his prime? lol
fucking espn
is like
fuck they make me angry
David Eckstein: so gritty they would eat him in the south for breakfast with some butter and sprinkle cheese.
What's sad is that they missed so many others...
I’m not an ESPN defender by any means, but no one has given them as much material as us.
Not their fault that we blow.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
by AnthonyR on Jul 7, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
crap. I have to watch them 2morrow (with Steve phillips d'oh!) to see Big Game Ollie's return.
I predict 5 bbs, 3 H, 10 k, 6 IP 3 r, 1 er, mets lose 3-1
"Put it in the books. The Mets are the 2006 National League Eastern Divison champions"--Howie Rose
Off the cuff, I would take that...
I fear much, much worse.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
that would be funny if that happened
but i think he gets rocked like 6runs in 3 innings
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 7, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
fuck ESPN
they don’t do this for the Nats or Pirates. Philly and Yankee loving fuckers.
"Put it in the books. The Mets are the 2006 National League Eastern Divison champions"--Howie Rose
i know
they could have a top 20 for the Nats but they used us.what the hell did we ever do to ESPN
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 7, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
what the hell did we do to deserve the 2009 Mets? or 2007 and 2008 collapses?
"Put it in the books. The Mets are the 2006 National League Eastern Divison champions"--Howie Rose
We picked the bastard team of NY.
I signed up for this kind of stuff when I became a Mets, Isles and Jets fan against every single person in my family.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
They're actually a team that is "supposed" to be better than the other local alternative
So much for that.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
I had a dream
That we actually got to the World Series. Against the Red Sox in game 7 with no pitchrs left Jerry turned to Omir Santos who pitched the first Mets no hitter. And hit a walkoff homer. And next year he pitched and caught and hit .400 with no walks and a .600 BABIp. THen I woke up and saw him swing at a slider at his foot.
"Put it in the books. The Mets are the 2006 National League Eastern Divison champions"--Howie Rose
So I can watch the game with SNY coverage
I still have a feeling I will regret it
They booed him
I dont know why. I could care less about Manny
by aparkermarshall on Jul 7, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
not so much
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
On the Mets Noy Top Plays
Damn you ESPN. If you’re going to show that, at least play some circus music or Benny Hill music, and speed up the film to go with it. Be a little creative and do it justice!
I attended the infamous Dodger game and just now realized how fast Manuel hit the locker room after Reed’s throw. That was fast!
Lots of Mets fans left right after Church missed third, and that was the right move.
Nice K for Big Pelf there.
I would say LGM but who am I kidding?
Here’s to Big Pelf having another good outing.
I have a GUT feeling we'll see some interesting things this series
Like a Dub HR or a long AB by Omir that ends up in a walk.
Long AB? Santos knows what that is?
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Those
two things only happen once in 100 at bats
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 7, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Come back to this post when one of those things happen in this series
Something interesting will happen, my GUT feeling can tell! haha
Did Ron just call Loney one of the most underrated players in the game?
by James Kannengieser on Jul 7, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions
Either way
He’s pretty wrong. Unless he’s comparing Loney to Daniel Murphy or something.
by James Kannengieser on Jul 7, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Which will be higher?
Phillies runs in first inning last night
or
Mets runs this series
Phillies
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Give the mets a chance
and make it phillies 1st inning runs tonight
by mikesmetsrthebest on Jul 7, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank god Pelf...
At least we got through the 1st inning without being completely out of the game.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
naaa
Omir probably wont get up til the third
by mikesmetsrthebest on Jul 7, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
if that's true, that's what will happen
and that would be great
The only value that guy could potentially have is to push him out the door and hire Acta
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
there are a lot of guys who have managed before who don't have a managing job right now...
that would love to manage in ny
Bill Madden seems to have it in for Bernazard
Along with Metsblog.
by aparkermarshall on Jul 7, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't count the number of articles I've read where some anonymous person says he's a bad dude.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
It seems like every article about the Mets has to mention him
and his connections to the players and the farm system. Well isnt that his job as the assistant GM and in charge of the farm system.
by aparkermarshall on Jul 7, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
It all started with the Delgado thing...I never heard his name before then.
The rags sensed controversy and ran with it.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
I can't watch Alex Cora play defense for another 82 games
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Called Kershaw a young Sandy Kofax
I see a young Ollie
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
not yet
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Why can't Murph play first instead of freakin Tatis...
by dulciusEXasperis on Jul 7, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions
Against a lefty
Right-handed suckiness > Left-handed suckiness?
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
It is physically (mathematically?) impossible for a lefty bat hit a lefty pitcher
Jerry playbook page 2.
Been a while since I've commented in a gamethread
Its a sign of my deep seeded depression surrounding the major league part of this organization.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jul 7, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions
Following the minor leagues is actually lot more interesting
than watching the New York Bisons and David Wright
by aparkermarshall on Jul 7, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Crap-head Phillies up 1-0
Damn Ryan Howard and his homeruns.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
And damn Jason Werth and his homeruns.
2-0
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Pelf's going to have 50 pitches at least by the end of the 2nd
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Why didn't the Metsies get Orlando Hudson?
Seems like the type of guy the Mets don’t have in the clubhouse … could be wrong though…
How much longer does it take for Wilpon to get it
that there are more problems with this team besides the banged up line up?
Maybe start with the fact that Pelfrey and the rest of the starting rotations has looked lost lately?
Maybe, just maybe, the manger might have something to do with that?
2nd and 3rd 2 out for furcal
and you walk him and hudson?
what a joke
that's what you get for dicking around with the 1st and 2nd hitters
you deserve that, pelfrey
How many guys have been walked in this year?
I want to say 34.
Gary: "Pelfrey did everything right"
Except walk Furcal and Hudson.
by James Kannengieser on Jul 7, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions
if he just had pitched to furcal, the worst he could've given up was this situation now
just throw goddam strikes
This is a very good team
beating up on a very bad team. The Dodgers will be hitting line drives all over citi till for the next 3 days.
FIRE MANUEL AND OMAR!!!!!
This is lookin like the locker room rot that infected the 93 Mets. It starts with the GM.
Pelfrey has looked lost all season. The starting rotation has been a mess.
I don’t want to hear about the injuries to the lineup.
what rational and logical thought
thanks for sharing
FIRE BOTH OF EM NOW
Our farm is depleted.
Why?
Minaya traded the farm. We used to have Bay and Kazmir. He traded Xavier Nady for Ollie Perez who’s never met expectations. He resigned the guy to an absurd contract.
He could have signed Hudson this off season and opted not to. Probably because we are saddled with Liuis Double PLay Castillo’s terrible contract.
He traded Castro when there was not need to. He was our best hitting catcher.
OMAR is the reason this team is a mess right now. It has no depth.
Hudson isn't that good. Why have two over-priced aging second baseman in long-term deals?
And Omar didn’t trade away Bay or Kazmir while Mets GM. Kazmir was Duquette.
He did trade for Johan Santana, Carlos Delgado, Oliver Perez, and John Maine.
Hudson
defense is declining, bat has cooled off a ton after a hot April and his OBP and SLG are both now below what they were last year.
Still, he's so much better than Slappy
Not even close, and Luis’ range is going much quicker and he’s 3 years older.
Think you may be giving us too much credit
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
They better be taking some pitches
against Kershaw. He’s known to walk guys.
Because Tatis is the last guy to hit a homer?
I think that’s it. Memories….
And his DP% when pinch hitting is 21%
Jerry is trying to stay away from that
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Fun Fact
Did you know that since Citizen’s Bank opened in 2004 no team had ever failed to get an extra base hit in 2 straight games. EVER. Until last weekend. Your 2009 Metsies!
Speaking of reason why the Metsies are losers this year ...
… I’m blaming it on Chris Carlin. Why have the poster child for SNY and the hardest working man on your network be an announcer with a speech impediment? What was wrong with Matt Yaloff and Maz? Bad karma…
Carlin is the poster boy for
“if this guy can be on TV, there’s hope for everyone out there.”
Silver Lining
At least Wilpon is happy, his favorite team is winning.
Why doesn't Omar stop being a pussy...
and just admit that he’s not making any moves, and that he’s waving the white flag for this season???
It’ll make this shit storm much easier to handle
Payroll
Given their huge payroll (what is it, 3rd highest in MLB?), they can never admit to rebuilding.
But you’re right, I’d rather they just make no moves and try again in 2010. This season is over.
This team is going to get torpedoed
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Because Matt Cerrone still has hope
and that means admitting failure might be just the beginning of the shit storm.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jul 7, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
a better Question
is why is omar such a pussy that he can’t trade for a guy like hinske or someone cheap in which he would not have to give up anything
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 7, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
but do something
don’t just sit on your hands.
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 7, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think a guy like Nik Johnson would have cost much
and if Omar thinks Delgado, at his age, is gonna come off of Laproscopic hip surgery and be 100% he’s an even bigger idiot.
Because that might make sense
I’ve NEVER EVER seen a team get so ravaged by injuries like this and the GM do nothing.
Honestly, it doesn't matter anymore.
If Delgado, Beltran and Reyes aren’t coming back before the middle of August, we’ll be so far out of it that it doesn’t matter.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
He will...we'll start selling if we keep playing like this
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Yup
Except Delgado and Reyes probably wont be back this year
by aparkermarshall on Jul 7, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
Fine with Reyes…
Delgado? Hustle his ass back and make a waiver deal for him.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
He is not projected to be a type A Free Agent
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Delgado if he even comes back late august is not going to be 100%.
That alone should have been enough to move Minaya to make a deal months ago.
Who's talking about trading Delgado while on the DL
That hasn’t even been mentioned.
Is that what I said?
Hustle his ass back and make a waiver deal for him.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Where are you getting "middle of August"
On all 3? Because Reyes got a cortisone injection? Who’s saying that?
Delgado is mid august
We don’t have anything close to a time table on Reyes and Beltran.
Reyes is likely done...via common sense
There is a timetable on Delgado for the middle of August.
The fact that there is no timetable for Reyes and Beltran isn’t exactly inspiring.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
I think this umpire
Thinks the plate is under Omir Santos, not in front of him.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jul 7, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions
Everyone talks about Orlando Hudson
He has a .344 wOBA and a -4.5 UZR
Pass.
Agreed
Had a ridiculous first couple weeks and a lot of people, Gary and Ron included, assume he’s been spectacular all season. Better than Castillo to be sure, but not worth nearly the cost of eating Castillo’s contract + Hudson’s deal.
by James Kannengieser on Jul 7, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Eating Castillo's Contract
Is a sunk cost. Do you understand Sunk Cost?
yeah, but...
Hudson or Castillo? An underachiever with a great attitude or an underachiever who drops pop-ups with 2 out in bottom of ninth?
A lot of guys who sucked donkey balls have won World Series'
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
You don't get to choose
You’d have to pay both of them
And who cares about his attitude or whether he over or underachieves? I just want achievement.
Again with zone rating
Seriously give that a rest. Nelson Cruz is the best outfielder in baseball according to zone rating. What’s Castillo’s zone rating? I can see with my eyes it’s not great. Hudson’s a much better player than Castillo, and he’s the bargain free agent of the season for what he’s giving the Dodgers. That’s why you hear people bring him up. We didn’t get O-Dog because the Mets have no understanding of SUNK COST.
Clearly you don't understand sunk cost
Orlando Hudson is
1) not hitting that well
2) not playing great defense
Sorry.
Hudson
Has will have about triple the extra base hits of Castillo at the end of the year. I’ll take that improvement everytime for 3.5 million a year. Apology not accepted :)
Gary and Ron are just claiming that he was out and ignoring the replay
The hand was clearly in.
He was out.
I thought he was safe at first, but he looked out on the replay to me.
At least we have good announcers
At this point, I just look forward to listening to Gary, Keith, and Ron call the games.
Agreed
I said this same thing to a co-worker today. If we had shitty announcers I might not watch.
by James Kannengieser on Jul 7, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
this team's just a disaster
too many injuries to too many good players.
Great timing
…for a Castillo/Hudson debate. Luis gives up the error and Hudson cracks the RBI double.
See
This is the difference between good defense and bad defense.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jul 7, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions
Dunn
would have also hit a bomb in the 2nd inning
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 7, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Bah
Dunn wouldn’t have even had the chance to reach his glove out ;)
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Mark Himmelstein on Jul 7, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm waiting for October
Hockey season.
I don’t think I’m gonna watch this mess of a Mets team for a while. I’ve sat through some really shitty Isles and Mets seasons but I haven’t seen anything that compares how to shitty this team is to watch.
Hey Omar just keep sitting on your ass and doing nothing
We can just keep treading water… or not, you stupid fuck
Treading water?
I think early June was treading water. Since then it’s been plain sinking.
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Mets suck
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
by Sam Page on Jul 7, 2009 8:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I want a non-Jerry explanation why Tatis is playing 1B and Evans is at LF
When it should be the other way around
it's gangsta
but evans did not have a gold glove over at 1st
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 7, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I want your explanation as to why it should be the other way around.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Pujols could be playing 1st base and it would hardly matter
I didn’t believe it, but we really are that bad.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
I just did myself a favor
I shut the game off.
I’ve torturing myself wth this for long enough. Watching this has me on the verge of tears. I am so frustrated and annoyed with this team I just can’t bare to watch.
It’s really like watching an old friend struggle while the people who are supposed to be helping him just stand and watch him drown. This season so far has been one of the most painfull I’ve had to endure of any team as a sports fan.
I just don’t think I can do this anymore. It doesn’t feel good at all.
Honestly...
I think the two “collapse years” felt worse than this. This year is what it is. 2007 and 2008 were laughingstock material.
In 2006, you knew they’d come back no matter what. This year….you know they won’t….even if it’s just 1-0 in the 3rd….
Do you read the front page content here?
I’m a broken record
by James Kannengieser on Jul 7, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
argh...heart.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
They didnt have Mr. Grission
who has a lot of “heart”
by aparkermarshall on Jul 7, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
No
They didnt have heart. They had what JamesK had. A luckly year out of LoDuca and Valentin and awesome bullpen.
by aparkermarshall on Jul 7, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I could forgive them for last season
Wagner went down and when that happened I know they were done. Wasn’t gonna be pretty but I accepted it.
This?
It’s just unbearable to watch this knowing that Minaya ain’t gonna do shit. None of these players are gonna benefit from it. Especially the younger guys who are rushed up cause the farm is depleted.
It’s just never ending torture. The season is over.
Even if they added some guy to give them +2 wins for the rest of the season
It wouldn’t be worth it.
There is nothing he can do
nothing he could have done.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things"
We have very little hope…at least then we thought we had a shot. This is tough…
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
huh?
it kinda is when you think about it
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 7, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed - but the difference is ...
… every single damn game wasn’t available to watch. It’s more agonizing to see these errors and screw-ups in HD
I felt better watching the 93 Mets
The Worst team money could buy.
Than this.
Depends
MLB should allow teams to trade draft picks
by aparkermarshall on Jul 7, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
It is what it is, but it could be worse.
We have one of the best starting pitchers in baseball.
We have one of the best closers in baseball.
We have a great 3B that could be the star of the future.
We have a solid SS with a ton of speed that could be on of the top 5 SS in the game.
We have the BEST center fielder in baseball.
We just lack depth, but depth is coming if our farm system stays intact.
Injuries fucked us but it could be worse. The Pirates are going for the most consecutive seasons with a losing record.
Now, pep up and enjoy the show for what it is. Minor League baseball.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
by EMSfan9 on Jul 7, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
there is zero entertainment value in watching this team
so we are either very loyal or very masochistic
by Ballonthewall on Jul 7, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm loyal to a fault
but even I can’t bare to watch this.
Believe me. I haven’t missed an Islanders game in the last 22 years. The last 16 I would say much more pain full to watch than the Mets.
This something so much more rotten.
Farm system
Does anyone know what Baseball America ranked our farm system? I read Sickels’ chat today, and off the top of his head, he said it was “average”.
I read some other article today, I forget where, that had other scouts saying it was pretty bleak, but they could just have an axe to grind.
My question being, does anyone have any more objective published rankings of the Mets’ system?
A Lost Season
The worst thing about this season is that there is really nothing to look forward to. The sell-able pieces we have are injured — Delgado, Wagner, Putz and perhaps Maine — and will be back too late to deal . “Playing the kids” consists of calling up Jon Niese and maybe Josh Thole, but the latter is doubtful.
Watching Pelfrey fall apart like this
is heartbreaking.
I’m not sure I want to subject Neise to Manuel for too long a period of time. The whole coaching staff doesn’t really seem to require hustle from a lot of these guys.
and you get that where?
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
good news, thouhg, tim redding is warming up in the pen
with a real shot at getting his era over 7
Is there anyway the Mets can score a couple of runs?
For some reason I keep thinking they will score 2 runs.
Yep
It will happen. David Wright will drill a curveball over the fence.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
damn straight
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
And Jerry will credit that to the 80-pitch-drill he came up with
When explaining today’s loss in the post game interview
Ahhh the 80 pitch drill
I blame everything that’s gone wrong on that.
by James Kannengieser on Jul 7, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Wright cant hit a HR
then I miss that question.. Can he hit a double off the wall?
by aparkermarshall on Jul 7, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
31 of David Wrights 99 hits were XBH!
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
He's the only one who didn't give up on it once it left Kershaw's hand.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Watching Ollie pitch tomorrow
… will be like watching Rick Ankeil or Steve Blass pitch; Mackey Sasser toss the ball back to the pitcher; Chuck Knoblach/Steve Sax throw to first base; like …. (who did I miss?).
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
One of these we will have our first Met no hitter and I'll bet when it comes it will be under bizarre circumstances such as Ollie's start tomorrow
pass me the lsd, please…can’t believe i just said that
by Ballonthewall on Jul 7, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we re-post this after the top of the first inning tomorrow night?
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Last game of the season
When we are 20 games out.
We need a brawl
I say the next time Kershaw comes up to bat, bean him.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Haha!! Agreed!
I was thinking the same thing. Guaranteed that the Mets’ first no-hitter will be in the most ridiculous situation ever.
but how come none of our pitchers
can bunt except for livan
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 7, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
memo to GKR
the Mets defense is terrible because the players playing it are terrible. It’s not the least bit “puzzling.”
So when does the fire sale begin?
Everything not tagged 5, 7, 15, 57 and 59 must go!
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
75! 75! 75!
Don’t forget 75!
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
whew
after last season We can’t have that!
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Can I throw in a couple?
6 & 34
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
I'm kidding....they can stay too.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
I'm surprised you didn't argue with Evans actually.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
If I thought he could fetch us something, I would.
He’s probably more valuable to us than in a trade.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Oh come on
What did BIG PELF ever do to you?
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Well, today just sent me over the edge.
But I like Big Pelf…we won’t get anything better for him.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
clearly...manny got screwed big time twice...this one was ridiculous
by Ballonthewall on Jul 7, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
at least
somebody else doesn’t.it seems only met fans and red sox don’t like him
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 7, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
It's called having 50 days off in a row
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
I hate Manny and the Dodgers...
But I would rather lose fairly, than lose because of bad umpiring.
by guy endore-kaiser on Jul 7, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions
News for you champ...
you have to score at least once to win.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
I know sport...
That’s why I didn’t say anything about winning.
by guy endore-kaiser on Jul 7, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
This would make more sense...
If Dessens came in to pinch hit for Argenes.
by guy endore-kaiser on Jul 7, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions
We really should come up with games of some sort to keep us occupied while the Mets are busy getting beat.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
you can say that again.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
a pitcher that may not be here much longer.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Hey pingle.
Anthony’s calling for a fire sell and I’m not too far behind him!
haha.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
I'm just upset that they've said
They basically aren’t going to get any help. ANY.
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
yeah
I’m pretty sure that has all of us down about now.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Maybe this was 'The Beard's' calling
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
btw, anthonyr, i love your tag line about jerry
true that
by Ballonthewall on Jul 7, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
All thanks to Jerry
He gives me inspiration
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Jerry has inspired me to coach my little league team to success. Bunt.
I do it every time we have a runner at first. We win all the time (that has to do with the fact that little leaguers play defense worse then the Mets)
"Put it in the books. The Mets are the 2006 National League Eastern Divison champions"--Howie Rose
Wow that must be a very bad defense to be worse then the Mets
Tell them their UZR/150 is -9.9 and watch their reaction lol
Except tomorrow
Ollie might give it up on his own…
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
who is sent down tomorrow?
wish it was redding. probably will be Dessens
"Put it in the books. The Mets are the 2006 National League Eastern Divison champions"--Howie Rose
The Mets haven't scored a run since Saturday.
UGH.
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
yeah, might as well not go.
i’m glad i live in RI. don’t have to watch.
"Put it in the books. The Mets are the 2006 National League Eastern Divison champions"--Howie Rose
I'm honestley not sure I want to know.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Oh fuck me.
Seriously?!
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
yeah
cuz they were totally gonna win before that
Why does Blake DeWitt own us?
Oh, and Tim Redding sucks.
That's the Tim Redding that I know and want DFA'd
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
How many times have we heard Gary say:
And that’s (Insert random unkown here)’s first home run of the season.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Please show bunt
Tatis.
"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully
Is there any statistical compilation of double plays by team?
We have to be leading that
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Gary said Mets lead the NL
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Gary
I think Gary just said the Mets lead the league in hit into DP.
75!
Freaking 75 double plays! Almost 1 per game. That’s sick…
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Poor Tigers
At least they’re in 1st
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
We'll catch them and blow it at the end
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Damn you and your quick computer
My slow computer screwed me.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Top 5 DPs by NL Teams
1. Mets 75
2. Astros 74
3. Nationals 71
4. Brewers 70
5. Padres 70
What lovely company.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
afraid to call in case I dropped it.
Louis doesn’t need any more company.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
ugh...Castillo.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
someone asked our total of errors vs. runs scored
it’s not that bad, actually…since june 2 116 runs, 18 errors…of course many of our errors are shockingly embarrassing
Fernando Nieve has the last rbi for the mets
now that’s sad
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 7, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Odd. MLB story contradicts itself referencing the called strike on Manny's plate appearance / getting tossed out.
So. Was it a strike or not? MLB story doesn’t clear it up.
Replays showed it caught the corner.
Replays showed the pitch was off the plate.
Call me confused.
well, the pitch was well outside to manny
by Ballonthewall on Jul 7, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
It caught the corner...
If the corner was 12 inches away from the plate.
Grits is here!
Thanks for the link, but I think the first quote references Manny’s 1st inning K, while the second quote references his 5th inning K.
by James Kannengieser on Jul 7, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
James!
Nice job noticing that in the article. I was trying to catch up and perhaps read it too fast. If only the Mets playing was as sharp as your attention to detail – we might have the Dodgers W-L record.
Haha
The Dodgers hit, field, run, throw, catch, pitch, cook, fart, and burp better than the Mets.
by James Kannengieser on Jul 7, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
They also put together nice tributes to stars.
Saw the Michael Jackson tribute when I was @ a Dodgers game on June 26th. Fireworks / M.J. music. Actually pretty cool.
well, let's face it...we heading to a permanent slot in 4th place
the injuries make it impossible…and the stupid errors etc. compound it
If we are aiming to be bad, lets beat the Natinals at it
At least, we get our early draft picks next year
I wonder what was worse?
The “Natinals” misspelled jerseys
OR
The Mets Inaugural season patch?
I’m going with misspelled jerseys
it is oh so true.
But there is always the NFC BEAST to look forward to.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
I sort of like it when the Mets pitchers load the bases. It reminds me that is possible to score with them loaded
I didn't think that was allowed
I am taking my baseball and going home >:-P
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
poor socks? he sucks this inning....never mind poor socks...poor US !
by Ballonthewall on Jul 7, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Well if he wasn't out shining shoes all day, he'd be better
At this point, I really could care less. I’m defeated.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
I thought he spent the weekend taking Jerry's nieces around town?
After he got out of the fiasco in LA (but didn’t) he has earned an exemption from me.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
He also walks Jerry's dogs, throws ambidex and help old ladies cross the street
Not to mention that AB against Pujols
Oh yes
He’s earned a rough day or two.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
That all I can stands, 'cause I can't stands no more
Ugh. I’ve been a Metropolitans fan since 1967 (the days of Jack Fisher, Bob Shaw, Jim McMillan, Jerry Buchek (‘68?), et al. But after the last two seasons, THIS is particularly gruesome to watch. And there’s no end in sight. Do any of you honestly think that “pitching, defense, timely hitting and heads-up play” will keep us in this thing? If you do, then I got some ocean front property in Oklahoma I’d like to sell you.
I have no faith that Ollie is straightened out; that Johnny Maine, Jose Reyes, and Mrs. Beltran will be coming back any time soon. Delgado, at his age with this injury, is done for all intents and purposes. There are no deals out there to make. So … I think we’re done. We could be 8 games out of first by the All Star break.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
I meant to say ...
Of course if we got "pitching, defense, timely hitting and heads-up play" we could stay in this thing. We just won’t get all that … at least at the same time.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
I'd much rather do that. At least they were "lovable."
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Ok woah...MRS. BELTRAN!?!?!?!
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
no explanation on the Mrs Beltran?
I’d love to hear your reasoning for calling VOLTRON such a horrid name.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Because he dislikes Beltran
Because of a horrific injury in 2005 and one at bat in 2006.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
No
What about 2004? What about how he will never, ever, EVER barrel into a catcher on a play at the plate. Instead, he will try and do a meringue dance in a futile attempt to avoid a tag. He won’t even slide!
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Describes 75% of the fanbase's feelings about Beltran
by James Kannengieser on Jul 7, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Beltran is a very talented CF
… no doubt. But I’d rather have Shane Victorino playing center. We just don’t have those hard nosed gamer type of players that the Phillies have or that we had back in ’86. ’73, or ’69 (or 2000 for that matter).
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
I'd rather chop my balls off than have Dic Torino over Beltran
And I am by no means his biggest fan.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
sigh
AA has failed you. It has failed you.
by James Kannengieser on Jul 7, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
haha this fan base is so demoralized
that no one on AA has viciously attacked you yet for not liking Beltan.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jul 7, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
You did not just say that.
Victorino over Beltran? Seriously?
And on the Beltran slide…one play! THAT WAS ONE PLAY!
I’m sorry but you have officially lost all respect I once had for you. Torino over Beltran is just simply foolish.
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Over
The question is whether it will be in 3, 4 or 5 innings.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Phillies lose
It probably means nothing considering how much we suck.
But it’s something, and that’s all we have at this point.
That's the only baseball pleasure I get these days
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Now that I have to watch.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
... like getting ready to watch a ten car collision
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
The unintentional comedic value, absolutely
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
holy shit, that drawing is hilarious!!!
I’m laughing my ass off…WTF was that?? Keith wrestling a bull?
pamplona reference maybe? that's this week
by Ballonthewall on Jul 7, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Pamplona night?
The Mets should have Pamplona night, and turn bulls loose on the field for an inning.
I'm beginning to wonder about MLB players facial hair within the past couple of years.
Some guys just look down right ridiculous.
Well, considering we haven't scored in the last 20 innings (that can't possibly continue)
I’m going with the grand slam. I’m also predicting that Ollie hits it.
LAUGHING OUT LOUD HYSTERICALLY!
Ollie
No way we get 3 guys on base at once OR hit a homerun
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
If you had one word to discribe this offense, what would it be?
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
powerless
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Here's the truth
A mostly mediocre group of fill-ins guided by a mostly retarded manager are getting their asses kicked every day. Just say it Gary. Don’t sugar coat it.
+1
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
i guess when you are on the club's payroll it's tough to say that...he has to know it...anyone can see it
by Ballonthewall on Jul 7, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
everyone except the people that matter
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
the idiot owners..yes...well they got their new stadium and their big ass ticket prices so why should they care, clueless jerks that they are
by Ballonthewall on Jul 7, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, if the team continues to play this poorly
and the Mets start to lose revenue due to lack of fan attendance, the organization could always replace the I.S. patch with a patch sponsored by Nicorrette.

Glad you enjoyed. I'm sick (physically)
But I love my Mets (even though they’re not helping my condition)
- I thought we could all use a laugh.
"There's not a single area of the game the Mets are excelling" -Gary
Agreed.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
12 bases loaded walks now
2nd (worst) to the Marlins, tied with Brewers and Cubs in the NL.
I bet we lead the league ...
in walking the opposing team’s pitchers.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Here comes a K on an slider way off the end of the plate
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
What a rip David
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
That was a feeble at bat.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Can't wait to hear Jerry's post game.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Too much exasperation
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
I want beanings ... and a lot of them
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
That was the swing of a beaten man
No question
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Right. Ollie will get us back on track
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Do any of you fans out there have a secondary team that you root for
…when the Mets have been eliminated.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
NY Giants
Training camp starts soon. Hoping the Mets would make it that long. I will als root for anyone to beat the phillies and the yankees.
I'm actually getting excited about the Knicks.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
Two questions
1. How do I make grids/spread sheets go go on a post. I have been inspired to compare Beltran and Victorino and would need those skills.
2. Any way to pm somebody?
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Comparing Stats?
Stats don’t always tell the whole story.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
But stats do tell a lot of the story.
By any chance are you refering to: grit, heart, determination, leadership and fire?
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
ah yes.
Thanks! haha
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
salt in the wounds man, thanks
I was watching the Mets 06’ clinch today against FLA. Man that was awesome/hurt so much
How about baseball IQ ...
Do you think you can quantify Derek Jeter’s contribution to the Yankees? Do you think his value to a team can be reduced to a statistic?
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
So are you saying that Victorino has a higher baseball IQ than Beltran?
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
No clue how to do it
It has to be done in Google Spreadsheets
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Thanks
It will probably have to be done over the weekend once I get a day off or two but it will be done!
"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran
Even really crappy teams have a guy or two who are worth turning on the tube for, who hit 30 hrs a yr
This team doesn’t have those guys right now
blah
The common sentiment among true mets fans these days is that we are confronted with two equally dismal options: to watch and “suffer” or turn our back to the team altogether. Some of my friends, the most ardent of mets fans, have admitted they just stopped watching. This seems to be the saner alternative to watching a team we care about so deeply completely crumble. However, this dualistic way of thinking is indicative of a mentality that lies at the root of the problem itself. We have been trained as fans to worship the end result, the box score, the standings, what our team lacks, and so forth. What we have lost in all this is the game of baseball itself. Its still possible to enjoy a beautiful play even if your team is down by ten runs and is 30 games out of first place. Im not trying to diminish the value of winning and losing, I just think we get carried away with it a little in new york. Lets all chill out, watch our metropolitans play the game of baseball and stop feeling sorry for ourselves






























