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Open Thread: Mets vs Dodgers

Los Angeles Dodgers at New York Mets, Jul 9, 2009 7:10 PM EDT



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Livan Hernandez

#61 / Pitcher / New York Mets

6-2

245

R

R

Feb 20, 1975



W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Livan Hernandez 5-4 17 16 1 0 0 0 96.2 110 50 49 12 34 51 4.56 1.49


Randy Wolf

#21 / Pitcher / Los Angeles Dodgers

5-10

200

L

L

Aug 22, 1976



W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Randy Wolf 3-3 19 18 0 0 0 0 108.1 94 45 42 15 31 82 3.49 1.15

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Lineups

Not sure if anyone else posted these, but here are the lineups:

Dodgers
Furcal, SS
Ethier, RF
Manny, LF
Blake, 3B
Loney, 1B
Martin, C
Hudson, 2B
Kemp, CF
Wolf, P

Mets
Castillo, 2b
Evans, lf
Wright, 3b
Sheffield, rf
Tatis, 1b
Church, cf
Santos, c
Cora, ss
Hernandez, rhp

by Eric Stephen on Jul 9, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm used to seeing bad lineup construction on our side

but why is the Dodgers second best hitter batting eighth?

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Jul 9, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its a common source of frustration among many Dodger fans. Well, online Dodger fans. My friend has two seats in the reserved level at Dodger Stadium, and the two old guys behind him can’t stand Kemp. They can’t get past the strikeouts. :)

by Eric Stephen on Jul 9, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd kill to have Kemp in our lineup right now.

"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran

by EMSfan9 on Jul 9, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Phils signed Pedro ...

… and that can’t be a bad thing … I think … meaning Halliday is out of their reach (I hope)?

by RetireNumber17 on Jul 9, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Dang it ...

… how is Murphy not in the lineup, LH’er notwithstanding?

by RetireNumber17 on Jul 9, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Playing the hot hand.

"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran

by EMSfan9 on Jul 9, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Over/Under on Mets DPs

Tatis is good for at least two all by himslef.

by RetireNumber17 on Jul 9, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Himslef ...

… is not a word. “Himself,” on the other hand, is.

by RetireNumber17 on Jul 9, 2009 6:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh goody, Livan

The Dodgers decided to reschedule their batting practice for 7:10 p.m. tonight.

by David G on Jul 9, 2009 6:53 PM EDT reply actions  

They may have to shut down the Dodger Dog stands

From like, 6:30-7:10 just to make sure we start on time

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jul 9, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh wait!

They’re home! Shows how much attention I’ve been paying, lol.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Jul 9, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a way to start

"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran

by EMSfan9 on Jul 9, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

That was fast...

He must not have had his 9,000 calorie pre-game snack.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Ok, so here we go...

jeez.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 9, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions  

And it begins...

Can we get through a 1st inning without giving the game away?

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

And heeeeeeeeere we go

"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran

by EMSfan9 on Jul 9, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Warthen needs to go out there and give him a candy bar or something.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Setting up Manny for this triple play

right here

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 9, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

these dodger announcers are so bad...

He just said, “Casey Blake, thought about a bunt”

After Casey Blake bunted.

I would say he did more than thought about it.

by guy endore-kaiser on Jul 9, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

psycho steve lyons who i dont like

keeps making what seems a valid point—why do the mets continue to pitch manny on the outer half of the plate where he, according to lyons loves the ball.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

actually likely +2 or 3 more rbis for manny this series

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

Frankie through the same outside fastball 3 times in a row last night. Poor pitch selection. Lyons is still a tool, though.

by David G on Jul 9, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's why it hurts to hear truth flapping from his lips

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

To make him have to hit it out to right field

It’s not bad strategy, just better batting. Last night’s homerun wasn’t THAT bad a pitch.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 9, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

isnt right field closer and or shorter

anyway it aint working

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Niese hasn't been good in triple a

he has a 4-6 record!!! that’s under .500… in triple a!! how is he gonna win i the majahs when he can’t win in the minahs

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Jul 9, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Livan seems to start slow...

which is odd, ’cuz fatties work up sweats while eating, taking showers, bending over to tie their shoes, and, one would think, warming up…

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 9, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice job Nick!

cedeno level outfield defense!

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

cant entirely blame that on him

"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran

by EMSfan9 on Jul 9, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure i can

i mean the part where he turned around like a dog chasin his tail, after going in on a ball hit over his head, then doing a few donuts in leftfield

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welp.

Hi everyone.

"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully

by pingel on Jul 9, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Why evans in LF, Tatis at 1b

and not the other way around? are we sure it’s best place for both?

by David G on Jul 9, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it is

"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran

by EMSfan9 on Jul 9, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

does it matter where suspects stand in a lineup?

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd tend to go that way as well.

Just because Evans’ minor league numbers at first are damn good.

by All Shook Down on Jul 9, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

why is santos always ALWAYS out of position to tag someone out at home?

He literally always stands 3 feet in front of the plate, so even if it is a perfect throw there is no chance of contact.

by guy endore-kaiser on Jul 9, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

he's gotta at least get the throw

"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran

by EMSfan9 on Jul 9, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

does it matter when the throws are ALWAYS up the line or off target or into the backstop?

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do the Mets realize

How badly Hernandez sucked for Minny towards the end last year? And are they aware it’s happening again right now? Are people just asleep in those offices?

by David G on Jul 9, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

NIESE!!!!!

"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran

by EMSfan9 on Jul 9, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the bright side

I picked us to win like 7-4 i think

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Jul 9, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I yeah I know we can't hit wolf

I just knew we were gonna give up at least four runs and can’t bring myself to pick the mets to lose

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Jul 9, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

7 runs?

5 was difficult!

"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran

by EMSfan9 on Jul 9, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're almost a winner!

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

2nd Half Rotation

Johan
Mike P.
Ollie
Nieve
Niese

at least until/if Maine comes back.

plz?

by keepcoolbutcare on Jul 9, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

mine

Johan
Mike P
Ollie
Niese
Figueroa

Nieve to the pen

by Pat Andriola on Jul 9, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

But Livan would have to be DFA’d or traded, and this team cuts no one…except Figueroa.

by David G on Jul 9, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone expecting much out of this lineup tonight?

So much for Manuel’s promise to ride the hot bat a month ago.

by Chickendirt on Jul 9, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions  

we realized that after Schnieder hit a 3 run homer and was out of the lineup after the next day.

"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran

by EMSfan9 on Jul 9, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manuel has to solidify his status as worst manager in majors.

Sometimes this guys choices makes you wonder if he’s purposefully teying to get canned.

by Chickendirt on Jul 9, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

Unless you believe we can score, even when DP machines are on

by Michkin on Jul 9, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone else's MLB.tv out?

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 9, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

my team isn't working

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awooooo....Wolfman!!

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

It's not in the Gangsta Handbook.

"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully

by pingel on Jul 9, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

no he doesn’t

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Jul 9, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wolf's got a nice WHIP

1.16. But we’ve got Ollie’s baseline leaps, you gotta factor that in.

by David G on Jul 9, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

DUB!

"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully

by pingel on Jul 9, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Okay

wright’s out of his funk. This has got to be the first time this year he was behind 0-2, got the count to 3-2 and got a hit

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Jul 9, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed

He hit 0-2 and I immediately thought K!

"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran

by EMSfan9 on Jul 9, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

cmon Shef

wag that bat!

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

SHEFF!!

"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully

by pingel on Jul 9, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

oh man

why don’t you bet grass is green too

by Pat Andriola on Jul 9, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh God.

Freakin’ Tatis.

"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully

by pingel on Jul 9, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions  

38 HRs robbed by Citi

"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran

by EMSfan9 on Jul 9, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was almost happy

UUUGH.

"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully

by pingel on Jul 9, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

that was only a single play!

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

OH... MY... GOD...

THAT WAS ONLY ONE OUT!!!!!!!!

TATIS JUST EARNED A MONTH OF CONSECUTIVE STARTS.

YOU ARE THE MAN TATIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by guy endore-kaiser on Jul 9, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopin Wright would have taken third

too bad.

That would have brough a run home.

by Chickendirt on Jul 9, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Not going to happen

Kemp has good range and a good arm and there was a man on third with 1 out. Wright can’t afford to get doubled up there.

by Pat Andriola on Jul 9, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i went to the Phillies game last night and i have to say aside from the phils winning i had a great time

by cjboyd on Jul 9, 2009 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

On the plus side, at least we didn't look totally inept offensively.

It’s getting pretty sad when you are happy to be down 3 runs and you didn’t have a 1-2-3 inning after the top half we had.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I just got here and checked the score.

The butcher and the baker and the people on the street, where did they go? To meet the Mets!

by Rod Gaspar Fan Club on Jul 9, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Reds are up 3-0

Can we ever win a damn game when they lose?

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't let Santos pick up the ball either.

"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully

by pingel on Jul 9, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Sweet!

"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully

by pingel on Jul 9, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Sure, walk Either to get to Manny.

I see where this is going.

"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully

by pingel on Jul 9, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

anyone watching LA feed?

Steve Lyons is the “6th tool”

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

fran was at least

i dunno, not a douche AND a tool

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

An ERA of 4.00 is acceptable for Livan

A WHIP of 4.00 on the other hand, is FREAKING RIDICULOUS!

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Nah the Mets didn't need someone like Manny in their lineup

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

so what?

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers need someone like Livan on the mound

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

oy

The butcher and the baker and the people on the street, where did they go? To meet the Mets!

by Rod Gaspar Fan Club on Jul 9, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

This is why Minaya sucks

You gotta figure that ANYONE is better than Perez and Livan in the rotation. These guys just can’t get anyone out.

by Chickendirt on Jul 9, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

6-1

damn.DFA livan and bring up Niese

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 9, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

why dont the Mets just put a tee up.

by aparkermarshall on Jul 9, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Livan to Redding

HA HA. Yeah that inspires confidence

by aparkermarshall on Jul 9, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Shuttin this off

I really have no more patience for this pathetic mess.

by Chickendirt on Jul 9, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Werthen should be on the phone to Niese

Livan has earned his contract, in his mind. 80mph fastballs are only fun in batting cages

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

You can't shine shit

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 9, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The bullpen is dead

We aren’t beating them anyway. If you’re waving the white flag you may as well wave it. Leave Livan in to take one for the team. He can throw 200 pitches.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 9, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Opposing Batters...

Hitting over .300 against Livan. Is that good?

by guy endore-kaiser on Jul 9, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

If you are the National League it is

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

And this is my basement

Gee its not as nice as the rest of the rooms.

Yeah I should really stop ending the tour here

by aparkermarshall on Jul 9, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

oooo where's the bathroom?

eh, 27th door on the left.

Nope (slam) nope (slam) nope (slam)

Find the bathroom all right?

Um…yeah.

by meigs1414 on Jul 9, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

the game was lost in the 1st

so i guess putting it further out of reach isn’t so aggravating.

Unless you think about how Omar told us we were going to win with a rotation filled with two guys coming off surgery, a guy with an 80 mph fastball whose brother just stopped getting paychecks for doing nothing for the entirety of a Met contract, two guys with no out pitches and more promise than actual record, and a guy with a big beard. Then I guess you might get steamed.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Yay! Nice work fat

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Livan is lucky

he’s gotten 2 outs on the bases.

by Mount17 on Jul 9, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Or Ron...

it could be he got lucky, and actually really sucks

by Syler on Jul 9, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Rocky throw the towel. THROW THE TOWEL

(Towel Thrown)

Prediction:

LA 14 – NY 2

Manuael will hew and haw about the need to survive while alluding Mets lost the notion of shame.

Wright will slowly go crazy inside and eventually turn into the Hulk

Livan eats a Ho – Ho in the corner

by cuseindahuse on Jul 9, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

where do you get "2" from?

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

we question your account

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had Livan pegged as more of a Chock-o-dile man

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 9, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lucky you

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

by The Glider on Jul 9, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pedro negotiating with Philly

Expect that to come back to haunt.

Of course Minaya will try to pawn off this off as if Livan, Redding and Nieve were the smart way to go.

by Chickendirt on Jul 9, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

we suck

he’s one of my favorite pitchers ever, and he can’t be worse than livan, redding, or nieve, so why not

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Jul 9, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

they really had Wolf on the ropes there

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

this sucks

I’m gonna go do something more fun, like punch myself in the head repeatedly

by JoshNY on Jul 9, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Would anybody else prefer SNY to broadcast

some minor league games over the mets? You get to watch the same quality of play only with guys who have upside!

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Jul 9, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I fell asleep.

I’m pretty sure that says it all.

"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully

by pingel on Jul 9, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey hey.

I’m up now! And Wright just got a hit too! haha.

"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully

by pingel on Jul 9, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

we should organize a watching party

where we all pop in an 86 dvd and watch it as though live. At least we know we’ll win the Astros game for example.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

we should be able to buy dvds of any game or season in history by now

i don’t see why not

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

well it was a pleasant surprise

considering SNY never run those games or even the 73 playoff serieses. Those are games I need to see.

by meigs1414 on Jul 9, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh well

At least the food is good in Citi Field

by aparkermarshall on Jul 9, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

and the seats are "empty"

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tatis.

is starting at first for the next seven years.

"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully

by pingel on Jul 9, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

um hello?

Him getting a hit means he won’t play for the next two days. That’s what’z gangsta!

by meigs1414 on Jul 9, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gangsta!!!!!

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

by The Glider on Jul 9, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 for 30

Jerry “gut” is feeling validated.

Bad news for all Mets fans.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Ron

Livan will not stop giving up runs

by aparkermarshall on Jul 9, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

If Stay Puff Marshmellow Pitcher stopped sucking

We’d be in this game right now.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Good Nik

Too bad it’s a mouthfull otherwise it would stick.

by Chickendirt on Jul 9, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ew

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

by The Glider on Jul 9, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

i really don't like santos.

i’m sure he’s a great guy, but he has no business on a major league baseball team

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Jul 9, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Not even his "short swing"?

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

by The Glider on Jul 9, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I miss Castro

everytime I see that guy bat.

by Chickendirt on Jul 9, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

How is Broadway doing?

"We have to find a way to play better, there's no doubt. Overall. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. Offense, defense, pitching -- we have to find a way to play better. The reality of this is, coming here to Pittsburgh and being swept -- personally, I feel embarrassed." -- Carlos Beltran

by EMSfan9 on Jul 9, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

+3 is the easy answer

but i’m gonna go under, just to be different

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by Evan_S on Jul 9, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jerry.

Throw a freakin’ fit and get tossed.

"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully

by pingel on Jul 9, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

he was out by 20000000 miles

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Gary

just say you want instant replay for all plays other than balls and strikes

by aparkermarshall on Jul 9, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

what is hirshbeck looking at?

la replay shows him in perfect position

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

They were down 3 at the same time we were.

God we blow.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably been said a dozen times in this game thread

But Livan should be DFA’d after this game. Enough is enough with this batting practice. Bring up Niese, leave Nieve in the rotation and pray that Maine can come back in August.

by James Kannengieser on Jul 9, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Or DFA Redding and put Livan in the pen

Much better

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, screw it.

Throw is fat ass out on the street.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Winner

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I'd like to give Figgy a shot

but believe it or not, I have more faith in Redding than Livan.

by James Kannengieser on Jul 9, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't blame you

They are both hideous though.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah the problem is who to DFA

there are so many candidates

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Jul 9, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bowa is going to blow a gasket??

the mets legitimately got 4 outs!

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

GODDAMNIT FUCK YOU MATT CERRONE

That’s what I’m thinking.

"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully

by pingel on Jul 9, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

It was one thing when he was jus a hack blogger who had the grammar of a third grader

but how he actually makes a living off of that website is a travesty

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Jul 9, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everywhere you look

mediocrity is rewarded. Why should he be any different?

by Zwill on Jul 9, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

he said that we would trade top prospects for top talent. What top talent?

by aparkermarshall on Jul 9, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Eckstein.

"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully

by pingel on Jul 9, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless "top talent" comes in a 6-pack

No point.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's too many tools for us.

"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully

by pingel on Jul 9, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

grit, heart, passion, clutch, leadership....

white?

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Jul 9, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you know a left handed pitcher is on the mound?

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Jul 9, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frank Robinson in 1975 no?

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Jul 9, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

When F! gets back, he better have a starting job

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Jul 9, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

General feelings on Misch?

"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully

by pingel on Jul 9, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

he looks like he might be decent

and he can’t be worse than Livan/Redding/Nieve

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 9, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn't give up 8 runs

But he doesn’t weigh 320 lbs. for me to entertain myself making fun of him during a schellacking

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gary, SHUT UP

I don’t want the Nyjer Morgan-types.

by jasondg on Jul 9, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh Gary

Nyjer Morgan is not going to save this team.

by James Kannengieser on Jul 9, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh Ronnie

Holliday is an outstanding fielder

by James Kannengieser on Jul 9, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

if Philly is really looking at Pedro instead of Halliday

the Mets dodged a sizable bullet; it doesn’t matter this year but next year etc.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

no one cares

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

How much did Wolf get, $3 mill a year?

We could have signed him for the rest of his natural life and still paid him less than Ollie.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

its hard to get my blood pressure under control

when people are saying things like this

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

....does anyone else hear that noise?

like a buzzing.

(I’m being serious too)

"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully

by pingel on Jul 9, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes.

Glad you mentioned it. I’ve been looking around my room to see what it could be. LOL.

by MetsFan4Decades on Jul 9, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay good.

I thought I was going crazy.

"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully

by pingel on Jul 9, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

its the sound of suck

unless you’re listening to steve lyons, then its the tone of douche

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha ha, now jerry makes a move

You’re a fucking genius, jerry! don’t wan the game to get out of hand.

by guy endore-kaiser on Jul 9, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it "Free Kazoo Night" at CitiField?

"If there was ever a man dying inside, it must be Jerry Manuel" - Vin Scully

by pingel on Jul 9, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I remember one giveaway at Shea was a sports bottle with a straw

When you blew in the straw it made a high -pitched, loud whistle. Needless to say 15,000 people were blowing into the straw all game. I had a headache after the game

by aparkermarshall on Jul 9, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha ha

That washington Astros game was funny

by aparkermarshall on Jul 9, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Livan was crap

we had our chances to chase Wolf but never got anything

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 9, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

it must be very difficult playing for a fool like manuel

you have to give the illusion of respecting him so you can stay our of trouble, but you have to deal with his stupidity day in and day out

by Ballonthewall on Jul 9, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sheff tossed

pitch was too close to take, but I’m sure Sheff felt like he should get benefit of the doubt on that pitch.

Sigh.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 9, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Here's my question

Will these Nigh Mets be no-hit this year?

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 9, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes

I give it a 10-1 chance.

by aparkermarshall on Jul 9, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Redding further endears himself to the Met faithful...

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 9, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Omar is one for five

in his off season pitching make over.
He STILL gets props for getting rid of the guys he did though.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

the first inning when the game was over

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Pulp Fiction-style

ass rape

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 9, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Screw this

Get rid of Redding and Livan and bring up Kunz and Niese.

If we’re going to get anihilated every night, we might as well figure out what we’ve got.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Meh.

What’s the point? This team isn’t underperforming. It IS this bad.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 9, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Q: could the Mets tie this game up if

Joe Torre took the mound for the remainder of the game?

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

A: They could put the ball on a tee and we wouldn't score 9 runs.

I wish I was kidding…

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

little known fact

Phyllis Diller and Joe Torre share 98.5% of their DNA sequences.

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Redding/Perez experience has begun

Like two GoBots coming together to form a Festiva

by cuseindahuse on Jul 9, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

damn

that was the worst “chemistry” argument I have ever heard. I usually have little patience for people overselling chemistry but part of me does believe that it may have some effect at the margins.

But that was terrible. This Met team is better equipped to take losing than some prior Mets teams that had more talent? Really? You’re going with that?

Geez Louise!

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 9, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I think that was Omar's idea in building the team

Put together a group of guys who were “equipped” for complete and utter failure.

Job well done

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

ASB BS

I’m really sick of hearing how much this team is “looking forward” to the All Star Break. Every team in MLB is in the same boat regarding scheduling. The Mets are ~5 GB, they should be “looking forward” to playing baseball games and trying to make up ground.

They make it sound like they are just mailing it in until the ASB, and THEN, wow, you’re going really see some AWESOME baseball from the Mets! Yeah, right.

Why can’t the Mets rattle off 4 straight W’s, then bitch about how the ASB is breaking their momentum? The past 2 weeks have felt like an endless death march to the ASB, and you know that they will probably get their asses kicked in the series right AFTER the ASB, and what will the excuse be then?

In summation, I wish this team would STFU about the ASB already.

by Mex_17 on Jul 9, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

this post was saved

by the “in summation” line at the end

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

why can't the Mets get relief pitchers

like Vargas and Mota?

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

If Claudio Vargas or Guillermo Mota throw one more perfect inning, I'm going to lose it.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the outcome of the game and I have no more faith left in this team, but I will still absolutely freaking lose it.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 9, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Step away from the ledge Anthony...

you have so much to live for.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 9, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question about MLB rules...

Does it count in the standings when you beat the Mets?

by Mex_17 on Jul 9, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

is there a met fan alive who thought they'd win this one?

I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya

by itsmetsforme on Jul 9, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I had us at 7-4

but I just can’t pick us to lose in the swag no matter how much i really think we will

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Jul 9, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

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