Wild Green Blunder: Diamondbacks 3, Mets 2

I'm not sure how often the best play of a game immediately precedes the worst, but it happened for the Mets in last night's eighth inning. After retiring Stephen Drew on a groundout to end the seventh, Pedro Feliciano stayed on to begin the eighth, allowing a leadoff single to center by Gerardo Parra. Sean Green was summoned to spell Feliciano and quickly showed everyone that he had nothing, hitting Justin Upton and then walking Mark Reynolds to load the bases. Miguel Montero, who earlier had launched a prodigious blast off the right-field facade for his tenth homerun of the year, pulled a Green offering to Daniel Murphy at first, who fired home for one out and scampered back to first to retrieve Omir Santos's return throw to complete the 3-2-3 double-play. Murphy pumped his blue-collared fist, congratulated Green on a job well done, and gave the ball back to his pitcher to finish out the inning. Green chucked the next pitch wildly toward the plate, and Santos, unable to corral it on one bounce, scampered after it while Upton glided home to give the Diamondbacks the 3-2 lead that would be their ultimate margin of victory.
Offensively, the Mets drew six walks and collected four hits off of Doug Davis but managed to score just two runs on solo homeruns by Murphy and David Wright. They stranded seven runners in Davis's six innings, including two in the fourth and three in the sixth. The latter began with Wright's blast, and sprinkled around outs by Jeff Francoeur and Omir Santos, Fernando Tatis doubled and Murphy and Alex Cora each drew walks. Jerry Manuel made the proper move by pinch-hitting for Livan Hernandez with the bases full and the game tied 2-2. Manuel went with Angel Berroa, who is terrible, and I guess Manuel's only defense is that Berroa is righty and Davis is lefty. He could have gone with Cory Sullivan, who is also terrible but probably not to the extent that Berroa is. He could also have gone with Jeremy Reed, who has only seven at-bats against lefties this season but nevertheless has four hits -- two more than Berroa has in his 18 total at-bats this season. Sullivan was probably the better choice, but not obviously so. So Manuel went with Berroa, who grounded the first Davis offering to short to end the threat. The Mets would have just one baserunner over the final three innings and never really threaten again.
Now's as good a time as any to ask the obvious question: Why is Nick Evans in Triple-A? He would've been the obvious pinch-hit candidate in the sixth, and, while he was by no means assured of coming through in that situation, he'd have been a much better choice than Berroa, Sullivan or anyone else. Reed is the late-innings defensive replacement, so why exactly is Sullivan still with the team when Evans has the brighter future and is actually the better player right now? Roster management fail.
I couldn't help but laugh sadly to myself when the SNY broadcast team went on about how Davis had been a ".500 pitcher" (Keith's words) from 2004 through 2007, when he posted 12-12, 11-11, 11-11, and 13-12 seasons in succession, as if implying that Davis bore the brunt of the responsibility for his records those years. Not a moment later, Gary remarked at how Davis's record had taken a turn this year -- just 5-10 so far -- but that it was hardly his fault because the Diamondbacks' offense gave him very little run support. So frustrating that he seems to get that pitcher wins and losses are really team stats, yet won't hesitate to pray at the alter of those same wins and losses when evaluating any starting pitcher in any other context.
Oliver Perez and Max Scherzer square off at 7:10pm tonight at the Citi.
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Win Probability Added
Big winners: David Wright, +16.6% WPA, Cory Sullivan, +9.9% WPA
Big losers: Angel Pagan, -32.6% WPA, Jeff Francoeur, -15.8% WPA
Teh aw3s0mest play: Montero 3-2-3 double-play in eighth, +27.4% WPA
Teh sux0rest play: Upton scores on Green wild pitch in eight, -22.1% WPA
Total pitcher WPA: +3.1% WPA
Total batter WPA: -53.1% WPA
GWRBI!: None
Game Thread Roll Call
Nice job by Jadden Hopkins; his effort in the game thread embiggens us all.
| Num | Name | # of Posts |
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| 1 | Jadden Hopkins | 73 |
| 2 | fxcarden | 57 |
| 3 | itsmetsforme | 56 |
| 4 | Schmidtxc | 54 |
| 5 | KeithsMoustache | 54 |
| 6 | MetsGod | 50 |
| 7 | Abstract NYC | 36 |
| 8 | Kepler | 35 |
| 9 | MikeSilvaNYBD | 32 |
| 10 | Pat Andriola | 26 |
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Comments
Chad Bradford was the best
Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!!
-Howie Rose
Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!
by The American Mr.Hockey on Aug 1, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just couldn't believe
Jerry left Green in after he hit the batter, had four straight balls to walk the batter, then very luckily got the DP (thanks to SuperMurph). Unbelievable – he should have had Parnell sprinting over to get the final out.
by deadspy3 on Aug 1, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1 for the Evans blurb
Carrying 13 pitcher, or even 12, is stupid and leads to losing games because we have no PH. and when the first pinch hitter is Angel Berroa, epic fail.
by twon8 on Aug 1, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree on the stupidity of carry 13 pitchers
The carrying of 13 pitchers is made all the more asinine by the fact that Jerry doesn’t even use all 13. I mean it’s like Pat Misch hasn’t pitched since he came in for Jerry Koosman in 1978 to face Al Oliver.
by jacksonvillesuns on Aug 1, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Ryan Socks (I think that's his name) has unofficially retired to serve on Obama's cabinet and enter medical school.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Aug 1, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
The Stokes stuff is never getting old.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Aug 1, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Their thinking on Evans
is that they don’t want him sitting on the bench, they think it’s better for him to get consistent work. I forget who said this — I think it was Manuel.
by SupT on Aug 1, 2009 2:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Which would make sense
if they weren’t giving consistent starts to some combination of Tatis/Sullivan/Reed. They don’t have enough talent on the team to block Evans from 4-5 starts per week.
by Zwill on Aug 1, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
what's the deal with Mets rotation?
According to Mets.com, the rotation for next five games:
Sat, Dbacks: Perez
Sun, Dbacks: Pelfrey
Mon, Dbacks: Redding
Tue, Cards: Niese
Wed, Cards: Hernandez
First, how come it’s Redding and not Figueroa? Have the Mets given up on this season already? Sure, there’s a chance that Redding will throw a good game, but why not increase the probability of success?
Second, why Santana is not scheduled for Tuesday game? Is anything wrong with him? Or have the Mets simply decided that it does not matter who pitches against Pineiro as it’s a lost game anyway?
by alexSVK on Aug 1, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The Redding >Figuero thing is all because of Redding's stupid contract
He’s terrible. I want to see Figueroa up here badly. His tRA+ in AAA is 135. In 16 games for the Mets last year he had a 4.26 FIP.
One of my least favorite parts about this disaster of a season is having to see games started by Tim Redding and Livan Hernandez. The organization should be embarassed that the Rays, who have a payroll a quarter or so the Mets size, throw out 5 pitchers consistently better than Livan and Redding. And it’s not even an injury thing anymore. Sure, Maine is gone, but that’s it. It is a true embarrassment.
by Pat Andriola on Aug 1, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would not putting Redding at the same level as Livan,
but I agree that it’s inexcusable that the Mets still have both of them on the roster.
Also, I do not necessarily agree that it’s fair to compare the Mets with the Rays. The Rays have a long history of mediocrity that allowed them to draft good pitchers. Also, they did not have to use any of the coveted prospects to obtain high-prized acquisitions such as Santana or Putz. It’s hard to have it both ways – expensive stars and cheap MLB ready prospects. It’s probably true that the whole Rays rotation is very cheap given the performance, but if these guys were free agents, the Rays could not afford them. Or, in other words, I doubt you could get a better $1 million starting pitcher in the off-season than Livan.
by alexSVK on Aug 1, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was a post about this
on Fangraphs (I think) recently, debunking the theory that the Rays’ success is due to all of their high draft picks.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Aug 1, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All of those great 1st Round picks
David Price – 2007 Draft, 1st Overall Pick
Jeff Niemann – 2007 Draft, 4th Overall Pick
Yeah, they’ve combined for +1.0 WAR (via Stat Corner) over 30 starts.
Look to how the heart of their pitching depth was acquired.
James Shields – 2000 Draft, 16th Round
Matt Garza – Shrewd trade (for 1st overall bust Delmon Young)
Scott Kazmir – Um, shrewd trade
Andy Sonnanstine – 2004 Draft, 13th Round
Wade Davis – 2004 Draft, 3rd Round
Jeremy Hellickson – 2005 Draft, 5th Round
A team with as many resources as the Mets should be better stocked. It’s been said a million times here: the Mets just don’t play the draft/free agent compensation correctly and they’re poor at valuation/evaluation of players.
by All Shook Down on Aug 1, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Niemann was 2004 Draft
2005 8th Overall Rays draft pick Wade Townsend just retired, by the way.
by All Shook Down on Aug 1, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why isn't Murph working on second?
This year, upon getting Delgado back, we have a glut at first; next year, upon losing Delgado, we have nothing at first (‘cause Murph’s bat will not play there). Murphy is lately showing the world that for the future, his bat will probably play 2nd base and his range at 1st indicates that he can handle second. Castillo is having a resurgence and can be sold now without us eating more than 1-2 mil. of his contract.
So again, why isn;t Murph working out on 2nd?
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Aug 1, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Have you seen his hands?
They’re like bricks. He’d be a horror at second.
That said, while his defense at first has been good UZR-wise, it’s not enough to overcome his mediocre offense at a power position.
I still think his best bet is left field. His UZR/150 there last year was 4.3 in a bigger sample size than this year when it was -3. Sure, -3 isn’t great, but he’s at -.6 UZR/150 in LF over 59 games. That aint bad.
by Pat Andriola on Aug 1, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brick hands should be a horror at first too
He’s involved in every play, and he hasn’t gone around bobbling everything. And his bat will not play LF any more than 1st base. He’ll be like Ryan Church with bad defense. Now Ryan Church with average D is something I can live with at 2nd.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Aug 1, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he'd be alright at 2nd.
Bricky hands or non bricky hands, his arm is good enough to play 2nd, and his range is pretty underrated in general.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Aug 1, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sam and I are on the Murphy for CF train
We might be the only ones.
by All Shook Down on Aug 1, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we have to accept Jose may never play short as well as he used to
so we should put Murphy there and move Jose to first
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Aug 1, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we're moving the Irish Hammer to a premium defensive position,
how about seeing if the blue-collar work ethic allows him to catch?
by anonymous on Aug 1, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, that's just stupid
Murphy looked good getting to balls as an outfielder and his range has been good at LF and 1B. He dropped a ball and fell twice, but that doesn’t mean he’s not a good outfielder. Nobody thought about him being a liability in LF for the final two months of 2008. Dude played five weeks in LF this season, made some epic misplays and then the “experiment” is declared over by our brilliant manager. He played there last season without question, how did it all of a sudden become an experiment this season? It doesn’t make sense! It’s obvious that the Mets let WFAN and the tabloids handle their player analysis, but I expect much more from the users of this site.
by All Shook Down on Aug 2, 2009 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing Evan was being sarcastic
or, at least I hope so.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Aug 2, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you don't think our defensive would be better with Jose at first and Murphy at short?
Well my other idea was to put Omir Santos in center, Wright in right (easier to remember his position that way), Francouer at third, and Beltran behind the plate. Santos’ bat lays better in center, Beltran would be the best catcher in baseball, and no more low throws from Wright to first base!
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
by Evan_S on Aug 2, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha I should give you more credit
Anyway, I was thinking more like this for 2010:
SP – Francoeur
SP – Reyes
SP – Perez
SP – Redding
SP – Socks (Sporks? Sprockets? Who is this guy?)
1B – F. Rodriguez
2B – Castillo
3B – Francoeur
SS – Santos
LF – Marlon Anderson
CF – Livan
RF – Wright
C – A. Reyes
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Aug 2, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Sean Green retreats to his April form.
Awesome.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Aug 1, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs





















