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Think tanks, as a concept, seem morally bankrupt. Entire companies exist just for publishing policy papers from one general viewpoint. It works, too: there's enough evidence and data generated to defend basically any viewpoint. I think these policy writers knowingly deceive, thinking the ends justify the means. And maybe they have weighed all the different perspectives and, believing their policies are the best, write blatantly slanted articles for the sake of persuasion - who knows?

I don't think Adam Rubin was angling for anyone's job; that would be a scheme ridiculous on the level of Dr. Doom's scheme to take over the world. I do wonder, however, when he writes a 10-page trashing of the Mets farm system, complete with quotations from an "anonymous scout," then turns around and talks about fringe-prospect Lucas Duda's power potential last week on SNY (spoiler: Lucas Duda isn't on our top-26 Mets prospect list). Who wants to bet the "anonymous scout" that John Harper, Adam Rubin, and a few other writers keep citing is the same person? It's the same story every time: "Omar Minaya's only plan is to sign high-priced free agents because the Mets have no farm system." That's not a particularly true indictment of Minaya, but when it gets repeated by three newspaper sources, then quoted on some blogs, suddenly it seems like fact, the inescapable reality of the failed Mets' farm system.

Star-divide

Due in part to this echo-chamber effect, the firing of Omar Minaya at the end of the season feels sort of inevitable. The popular sentiment to fire him, though, seems more like an outward frustration with the results of this season, not a meaningful criticism of Minaya's method. What happens if Minaya goes? The Mets will probably hire John Ricco; they haven't looked outside the organization for GM candidates since Frank Cashen (last Mets GM to wear a ring). Then what if he just makes 50 more Church-for-Francoeurs but the Mets manage to take the wild card on the strength of some returning stars? Does everyone herald a new era of winning, while the slow erosion of the franchise continues? That is not a premature judgment of Ricco, mind you. No one really knows whether Ricco suggested Francoeur-for-Church or just the abstract acquisition of Francoeur. Also, if its true that Mets stat-types Ben Baumer and Adam Fisher are more Ricco's guys than Minaya's, this presentation is certainly encouraging.

No, that scenario is just worst case, but still well within the realm of possibility. I'm not suggesting that the Mets beat writers have some vendetta against Minaya and are intentionally misleading people to get him fired. I think they're just trying to diagnose the organization's problems (and play to popular sentiment) and are doing a poor job of it. My number one reason why Minaya should go is that he doesn't pay attention to the details and the smaller nuances of roster management, leaving the team too top heavy and susceptible to depth issues. That gets discussed sometimes when people talk about how a team with the Mets' payroll could get this bad through injuries, but it's never talked about in specifics. The average fan does not understand the difference between Angel Pagan and Endy Chavez, between Angel Berroa and a competent back-up shortstop, and probably doesn't care, which is fine. The problem comes when the writers ignore those subtleties, too.

Honestly, I think it's an issue of statistics. Most writers just don't examine the roster with much precision because they lack precise tools. The GM whose moves check out in the WAR-column or another useful metric generally moves his team forward. Whether that's because the team used statistics to make a decision is a chicken-and-egg question, and probably an irrelevant one as most good front offices have both good scouts and good analysts. Jack Zduriencik is a good example: most of his moves have been really popular with the sabermetric blogs, despite his background as a scouting director. There was considerable fuss when a Mariner's exec told Baseball Prospectus that they had employed Tom Tango, but there's nothing particularly unusual about that - several hockey and baseball teams have and do consult with him.

Similarly, how do you know whether a GM is good or needs to go, then? Is it the sum of all his moves or the team's performance on the field? Would I like Zduriencik as much if the Mariners weren't over .500? Am I only calling for Minaya's head publicly now because I know the strange bunch of injuries are the only circumstance where there will be sufficient popular support of the idea? The recent Will Leitch article suggesting the Mets hire Billy Beane to give both the Mets and Beane a fresh start in a more competitive market creates an interesting contrast between Minaya and Beane.

And I say this because coming from Will Leitch, okay, and Will, you gotta understand this, Will, for the past couple of years, has lobby for an Amazin' Avenue writer position.

While Beane rarely makes a single move that looks bad, the sum of his recent moves hasn't resulted with a winner on the field. Granted, he's sitting on a heck of a farm system he just built from scratch, but I don't think his plan was to wait another year when he traded for Matt Holliday, and got a good deal for him. That's what I thought of when I read Minaya's quotation from the Mix Master SI story that Leitch referenced:

"I see the job in bigger terms. Paperwork, that’s false hustle. It takes away creativity. People who are into paperwork are into covering their asses, so if things go wrong they can point to all the work they did. They’re thinking more about failure than success. The more paperwork the opposition does, the better my chances are. Know what I’m sayin’?"

Minaya is saying that GMs that worry too much about making the right move never make the move that puts their team over the top with a Johan Santana-type trade. I think a GM has to have both: be constantly thinking of creative trades while making sure the numbers check out. Omar Minaya's pretty bold, but he's not always creative. He just traded to get Anderson Hernandez back. I always joke about him collecting former Expos but the list is pretty staggering, and honestly it's more worrying than funny. Maybe that GM who does both is John Ricco: a guy who trades for Jeff Francoeur, just not at the expense of Ryan Church. After all, John Ricco is supposed to be Minaya's paperwork guy.

Ultimately this "Omar needs to go"/"It's just the injuries" debate I referenced earlier is irrelevant and disingenuous, blown out of proportion by the media. Whether a good GM is determined by his moves or his results, I think all GMs are revealed to be good or bad in time and Minaya's time is up. The in-season management of the injuries and replacements has been just as big a problem as the injuries themselves. Omar Minaya is neither the killer of farm systems nor the anti-media villain the press portrays him as. He's just a big-picture guy on a team that needs paperwork.

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Very nice post

What bothers the hell out of me this year is that the Mets are having a bad year when the entire NLEast is not very good. I don’t know that Jose, CarlosD and CarlosB would have made the Mets division champs (or give Johan 24 wins) but it would be much less frustrating than this mess of a mess.

Adam Rubin is an interesting case. I work with the non-sports media, and it is evident that when people work too long on one beat that they get too comfortable with it. Being the Mets guy, Rubin probably has been out to a number of working lunches with dozens of folks who try to stroke him in just the right way. A few have the stroke down cold.

Media outlets need to cycle their reporters through beats more often. Sure, no reporter would like to be shipped from Yankees to Knicks to Tennis to Mets in a four or 8 year cycle, but it would be a great idea. I think the worst thing that can happen to a reporter is complacency. Besides, if the reporter is a real journalist, he/she can cover anything.

Grission and Husart - that is either the non-union Mexican equivelant of "Starsky and Hutch" or the key to winning the World Series.

by IanB in MD on Aug 10, 2009 8:08 AM EDT reply actions  

But

Sometimes (often?) the best reporter in a situation is someone who’s been on it long enough to see through the bullshitting, to have cultivated enough sources to get perspectives on all the various positions. Reporting is not just taking down what people tell you, which would almost necessarily be the approach of reporters always new to a beat.

by SupT on Aug 10, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

What bothers me the most is the quabbling over payroll

Look, this is the New York Mets. Not the Florida Mets or the Oakland Mets. This team plays in the biggest market possible. They have a brand new stadium and a brand new TV station.

If you expect the team to go out and slash $100 million off the payroll, you have another thing coming. Might as well pack up your Mets garb and pick another team. They will always attempt to be a “win now” team until the numbers are staring them in the face. This market won’t accept “rebuilding years” or whatnot.

They will continually go out and spend money on big name players, whether we like their WAR or not. If Omar’s the GM or Beane’s the GM, big names = big money for the team. They might suck in terms of wOBA or anything else, but unless the team is owned by the guys an FanGraphs and Amazin’ Avenue, do you really think these GM’s look at these numbers?

Anyway, the Mets will always have a big payroll and will always go out and try to ink the big names. They’re in an eternal battle with the Yankees for back page splashes and this is how they intend to fight that fight.

Good post, Sam.

by The 'Ropolitans on Aug 10, 2009 9:11 AM EDT reply actions  

i think people are quabbling over the payroll

not because of what it is, but because we’re not maximizing the benefit of having spent that money

by DoctorK16 on Aug 10, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Maybe here

But not in MSM or “other” blogs.

by The 'Ropolitans on Aug 10, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

This.

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Aug 10, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

what's "quabbling"?

Is that like squabbling by quibbling?

by anonymous on Aug 10, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear that Ricco has been lobby for the job.

I don’t see Omar doing anything particularly well, and he has a laundry list of gaffes and PR disasters.

Given his reign so far, it’s hard to imagine him buiding a championship foundation. Like right now, even if Beltran and Reyes return “healthy” for 2010. What would the team sttrength be? We have gaping holes everywhere.

I’d rather try someone else as GM. Even if it’s false hope, it’s better than no hope. And the Mets need to sell tickets in 2010. The stadium could look jarringly empty in September for the first time in a long time.

by Mex_17 on Aug 10, 2009 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

The Killer of Farm systems reputation

I think a big part of this is that most fans and writers don’t want to look beyond AAA to evaluate prospects. Unless you have a big time prospect moving through your system, most people just want to see who can help now or in the immediate future. In this regard, Omar has done a poor job filling out a AAA team. The Mets have some depth in their systems, but it’s mostly a few years away. Combine this with the number of prospects that have been sent out in Minaya’s tenure and it creates the illusion that the system is empty.

One big criticism I have is the Minaya is not willing to go over slot with draft picks. I don’t know if this is his decision or the directive from the Wilpons, but if he was given the autonomy he says he was, I have to lay this on him.

by Reg Dunlop on Aug 10, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

I think that may be changing...

3 of the Mets top 5 picks this season were “signability” guys (Matz, Magnifico, Buchanon). They also took some "signability guys in the later rounds (Dotson, Whitenton). I’m holding out judgement on the draft until next monady, when we should see if the teams reluctance to go over slot prevents them from signing these guys.

One thing that Epstien does very well is to let his type A and B guys walk. Over the years, he’s made the most of his compensatory picks. Omar has a habit of simply resigning the player, as he did with Ollie this winter. While going over slot is nice, having several higher picks would present better options with the “signable guys” such as Davis, Havens, or Holt. I really think Omar has to value keeping and accumulating draft picks more than acquiring expensive vets.

"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."

-Jim Fregosi

by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 10, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Omar must go because...

the product on the field is now woefully behind the business operation (which needs the product to continue to make more money).

Look at Omar’s five year history:

1 – he hasn’t developed any true all-stars through the minor league system. Maybe F-Mart will become one in a few years, but he has fought injuries his whole career so who knows. Every prospect he’s traded away has been at or below average in their MLB performance.

2 – He spends money, but gets all-star guys with issues Look at all of his signings – they are mostly past their prime and of the others, Beltran had long term knee issues and Santana/K-Rod had lost their complete dominance so no other big market team was willing to sign them to top end market contracts

3 -He doesn’t consistently “find” undervalued players to support the team In 2006 he looked like a genius with his bullpen choices and some support players, but he has looked equally foolish over the last three years in those same areas – “luck” just doesn’t carry the day for a GM.

4. He doesn’t manage his budget and 25 man roster well Omar is always chasing after his tail (often not succeeding in even getting it). He’s always fixing last year’s problems and not anticipating new issues. Look at this last season – what GM wouldn’t know that the Mets were top heavy and needed a stronger bench? Last year’s free agent market gave any GM willing to be creative (say the Dodgers) a chance to rack up great talent on a short term basis. Omar chose to take this market trend to make 3 year deals instead of 5 year deals (at the same rate per year no less). He pushed away players (eg Orlando Hudson) that were almost begging to be part of the team for a one year and focused exclusively on pitching. Omar’s foresight and competence must be questioned

5 – He has finally lost his grip on public relations Omar’s never been a great public speaker, but in the last few weeks leading up to the Rubin incident, he became unglued and then the wheels came off the bus. This is usually the last stage before someone is fired – the writing should clearly be on the wall.

Of course the greatest problem is ownership. They are too insular and do not like to admit failure. They are loath to criticism even if it is constructive. With that type of insecurity, the organization will always be put on the hands of someone more familiar (Ricco or whoever it really doesn’t matter) – who is not the best candidate. Even if the Wilpons could muster the courage to fire Omar, could we ever expect to see a grand search – with interviews of other club execs with great farm systems, great payroll/talent management, new and bold organizational thinking? It will never happen. This franchise is doomed until a new ownership group is willing to challenge itself to become the best organization, owns up to its failures and learns from its past.

The Mets may win a championship in the meantime (they spend enough money that it is still possible), but they will never be a championship organization.

by davidg on Aug 10, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Didn't Minaya develop Pelfrey?

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Aug 10, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Develop him into what?

A balk machine? That’s about the only thing he does with any consistency.

by Steeeve on Aug 10, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not really fair.

He’s still a good young pitcher. Not an ace, but very solid, and should be for a while.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Aug 10, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

How do you figure that Santana has lost his dominance ?.

Are you confusing #57 with #46 ?.

They are both lefties…..

by fxcarden on Aug 10, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Santana is a top end pitcher right now, but...

he’s clearly not as dominant as he once was. From 2004-06 he dominated the AL leading all other pitchers in ERA by a third to half a run. In 2007 his ERA was 10th best and many teams (including the Yankees and Red Sox) did not want to trade prospects and give Santana a six year high value contract. Minaya was the only one.

It served the Mets well last year as Santana took advantage of pitching in the NL and led in ERA, but this year he’s ranked 10th (which is still good). It’s the outer years that we need to be concerned with. Over the next four years he’s owed about $23mm per year. Much like Pedro – his start was great, his outer years were expensive and we didn’t get much from him. Omar’s need to get a front end starter for a few near-term years may well cost the Mets regarding its "productive payroll" down the road.

by davidg on Aug 11, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a good job

but Ben Baumer’s job is better than mine.

On slide 24, he even uses the “Godfather of Grisson” Darin Erstad for the example of shrinking the Probit regression model with hierarchical Bayesian techniques and Gibbs sampling for the SAFE technique. From there, you have the relatively elementary task of estimating the continuous kernel density function w.r.t. location and trajectory and then integrating over the playing surface and velocity to get the expected runs saved.

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it on the scoreboard?"

by hotspur on Aug 10, 2009 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Wow

I read your comment, thought you were joking about all the math, and actually looked at the presentation. Pretty amazing.

by mnbv on Aug 10, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those are real things?

This man works for the Mets?

Is this the twilight zone?

by dtro on Aug 10, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

excellent post Sam

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 10, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm agnostic on Omar

Because I think it’s more than possible that he would be replaced by someone worse. I am hoping that the way the Wilpons deal with this mess is to hire Bobby V, because even if the team somewhat sucks next year, which is entirely possible, we can at least watch Bobby try to win games. As it stands, I cannot watch the games, because I cannot watch Jerry fuck things up over and over and over.

by SupT on Aug 10, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah that's my biggest worry

The Wilpons don’t exactly have a great recent track record with gms. And I remember how eager everyone was to see Randolph fired… and look what that got us.

by Gina on Aug 10, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Endy

is better than Pagan at this point. Pagan has surpassed him.

by David G on Aug 10, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Why do you say that?

Pagan hits for a bit more power, but Endy compensates with off-the-charts defense.

by JoshNY on Aug 10, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but Endy is

a couple of years older and he can’t play vs. lefties. I like Endy, but anyone that can provide a few extra base hits has more value on this team. On a championship caliber team as only a 4th OF, Endy might have more value. But if they have to play everyday, I’ll take Pagan.

by David G on Aug 10, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

HAS ANYONE HAD A LOOK

AT DARREN O’DAY’S NUMBERS THIS YEAR, capitalization for emphasis. http://search.espn.go.com/darren-o-day/ I think this is the most stunning example of omar’s mis-management of this team. I forgot who was called up. I think it was for Figgy earlier in the year, but I remember it was stupid.

by Delgado on Aug 10, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Figgy was called up, O'Day was DFA'd.

Figgy made a start, and was DFA’d for Casey Fossum, I believe. WTF, Omar.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Aug 10, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the time

O’Day appeared to be a struggling ROOGY and thus the odd man out of what looked like a super bullpen. The weird thing, as Squid noted, was designating Figueroa for assignment.

by TheBigStapler on Aug 10, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed completely

"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."

-Jim Fregosi

by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 10, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

That was the Pelfrey tendonitis issue, at the time I thought they should have 15 day DL’d him and kept O’Day. O’Day did look shaky for the Mets, but he did not allow an earned run in the three innings he pitched with the Mets. I just feel like it is another example of the Mets not appreciating the true value of their players. Then again if O’Day had stayed he probably would have a 5+ E.R.A. and and be on the DL now with elbow tendinitis or Tommy John surgery or got a concussion running into the bullpen fence on his way to pitch.

by Delgado on Aug 10, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

We also had

Marlon Anderson on our team at that point, a perfect guy to DFA for one start then DFA Figgy

by Delgado on Aug 10, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

O'Day must thank God every day that he got rid of this team

He would have the Hantavirus or be living in a bubble from a tick bite or some shit like that.

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it on the scoreboard?"

by hotspur on Aug 10, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was also dealing with the death of his friend.

So, uh, that could have been a factor too.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Aug 10, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Read the comments sections of these old posts...

http://www.amazinavenue.com/2009/4/20/845152/minor-league-roll-call
http://www.amazinavenue.com/2009/4/22/849164/darren-oday-picked-up-by-rangers
http://www.amazinavenue.com/2009/4/19/845058/figgy-gone-mets-call-up-fossum
http://www.amazinavenue.com/2009/4/24/851403/uninspired-applesauce
http://www.amazinavenue.com/2009/4/20/845568/monday-applesauce

These were all the posts from the week of O’day’s release that mentioned him. There is only one comment that mentions that this series of events may come back to bite us, and my first guess would be that it was referring to DFA’ing Figgy. It’s easy to 2nd guess losing him to Texas now, but at the time none of us thought anything about the move (or at least not enough to comment about it). The move made sense at the time, and unfortunately it didn’t work out so well.

"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."

-Jim Fregosi

by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 10, 2009 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

That's fair.

However, I personally was sad to see O’Day gone. Not necessarily because I thought he was going to be great, but because I felt he needed more time. And he did. Not DFAing Marlon Anderson instead of Figgy/O’Day was a move I disagreed with from the beginning.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Aug 10, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always liked O'Day from his Angels prospect days

but no I didn’t make a big deal out of it at the time.

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by Sam Page on Aug 10, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked O'day too,

But I was less upset about that than I was about the Castro trade, the Francoeur trade, releasing Willy Mo, DFA’ing Figgy after his start, or keeping Anderson over Evans to start the season. At least the O’day trade made sense…it sucks that we lost him, but it did make sense.

"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."

-Jim Fregosi

by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 10, 2009 6:22 PM EDT reply actions  

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