Outer Banks Applesauce - Perfect Wagner, Giles talks sense to Mets, Nationals are hot
by Joe Budd on Aug 10, 2009 9:21 AM EDT
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Ah, one more vacation before I plunge into first year law books. For now, I have plenty of time to wake up early and link to articles for everyone. Hope you enjoyed the near sweep by the Padres.
Meet the Mets
Billy Wagner has not allowed a run yet in his minor league rehabilitation. The Mets are still reportedly trying to deal him.
Hardball Times explains why Bobby Parnell is not a starting pitcher.
It's kind of scary when Brian Giles is making more sense than the Mets; he urges Carlos Beltran to just take a break for this season.
The Mets ended their 8 game losing streak in San Diego yesterday. Petco = Turner Field West.
The Angel Berroa era has ended. The Jason Dubois era has just begun.
Matt Cerrone insists that it's obvious that the Mets need another ace to complement Johan.
Around the NL East
Florida swept Philadelphia, making things a little interesting in the division. Shane Victorino caused a little controversy yesterday, running in from centerfield to participate in a fight.
BtB argues that Raul Ibanez's production this year has strongly been affected by Citizens Bank Park.
Don't look now, but the Nationals have won 8 straight.
Washington shortstop Christian Guzman was claimed by the Red Sox off waivers. Pitcher Justin Zimmermann is going to see Dr. Andrews.
Around MLB
Baseball Prospectus provides a primer on the confusing waiver wire system.
Roberto Alomar wants to work for the Blue Jay organization.
In a story that I don't know if I want to highlight, Josh Hamilton fell off the wagon in January.
BtB counters Buster Olney's argument that the rich teams are dominating.
David Weather to Milwaukee. Hideki Irabu to Japan.
Sabremetrician proves that baseball does not exist.
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Waiver wire deals
While Nats fans are happy that Guzman is gone (or likely so), I’m not too happy to see that the White Sox apparently claimed Alex Rios off the wire. What would it have cost us to pick up Rios before the trade deadline? Would have been nice to see him next to Voltron in 2010.
Enjoy OBX (and good luck with the traffic).
It would have cost
One of our prized prospects who inevitably not pan out.
It would have made sense on a lot of levels, but apparently the Mets payroll is going to be even lower next year. We get almost $30 mil off the books next season with Delgado, Wagner, Schneider, and others leaving, but some of that is lost as Wright, K-Rod, Santana, and Beltran will all see modest raises, as will several of our arbitration-eligible players. Plus we still need a 1B and LF, and #4-5 starters.
Hard to justify giving up prospects and taking on $15 mil/year for an average player with so many other holes to fill.
I'd say we need more than a 4-5 starter
But i think with the raises we’ll have 20 million to work with. Which really isn’t going to get us a crapton with so many holes.
Waiver claims
It seems kind of antiquated that teams in the same league get priority on waiver acquisitions. With all the player movement, does that really matter any more?
A quick list of teams that need an elite starting pitcher
Red Sox, Yankees, Rays, Orioles, Jays, Twins, White Sox, Royals, Twins, Tigers, Rangers, Mariners, A’s, Angels, Phillies, Marlins, Nationals, Mets, Braves, Cubs, Cardinals, Astros, Reds, Brewers, Cards, Dodgers, Giants, DBacks, Padres, Rockies.
And please listen to Giles, Carlos. My new mets slogan is: Aim 4 April.
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Aug 10, 2009 11:38 AM EDT reply actions
The Mets are playing 3 miles from my house the next three days
I will not be attending
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Aug 10, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions
I love Reynolds
he’s the new Dunn, at the plate atleast.
by James Kannengieser on Aug 10, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Trying to move Wagner
is something that makes so much sense I can’t truly believe the mets are attempting it.
Yea
Doesn’t it seem like they should be working out a 3 year extension?
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Aug 10, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
No Cerrone
what the Mets need is depth. A good 1st baseman, a good left fielder, another backup middle infielder, a better catcher, a #2 starter, and a #4-#5 starter. We can get all of those, instead of throwing all our money at someone.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Exactly
Grission and Husart - that is either the non-union Mexican equivelant of "Starsky and Hutch" or the key to winning the World Series.
I don't think we're going to get all those
for the 20 million we’ll supposedly have to work with. A good number 2 starter will take up most of that. Plus I’d be shocked if they spent any real money on pitching.
You don't think we could sign someone like Holliday
grab Lackey, and fill the rest with small signings? That might be a little over $20 mil, but I think we’re getting $40 mil off the books. So if $10 mil or so is needed for raises, then spending $25 mil shouldn’t be a problem, right?
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
I think Lackey and Holliday
Would take more than 20 million by themselves. As far as I know we’re only getting 30 mil off the books and ten mil in raises.
Plus it depends on whether the rumors about a smaller payroll is true
Our payroll got smaller this year didn’t it? So it’s not impossible that it is.
Salaries will be down again
across the board. There’s still a recession. Quality players will be available in the $5 to 10 mil a year range, just as Abreu, Wolf, Marquis and Hudson were available last year. They just need to be smart about signings for a change.
Not gonna happen
Holliday and Lackey will probably command $15 mil each, and that still leaves our massive depth and pitching issues out of the equation.
And that’s also assuming Holliday will even be a free agent. Players always seem to love St. Louis, and he seems to be doing pretty well there. I wouldnt be the least bit surprised if he signed an extension.
If not Lackey
How about Bedard.I know people have been saying that he won’t fit new york.But we Really need a #2 but after Lackey there really is no one else
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 10, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Bad combination
Would you really want to roll the dice with Bedard’s injury history combined with the Mets training/medical malpractice?
How about Rich Harden?
I believe he’s a free agent. An injury risk of course, but that could make him a little more affordable and more willing to sign a short contract to prove himself. He’s a number 2 type pitcher if healthy, and he’s still only 28.
I would expect him to get more than Lackey
with the numbers he’s put up this year, his age, and the relative lack of injuries the last 1.5 years, plus still do we wanna put invest that kind of money into another injury risk/question mark when we have so little depth and already saddled with a pretty hefty crappy pitchers contract? Maybe I’m pessimistic but I just don’t see another big contract, or relatively big even in the range of what Ollie was, being given to another pitcher.
Then we need to trade for a good cheap #2
But the problem is Omar LOVES his prospects
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 10, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
There's also the fact a good cheap #2
will cost a boat load in prospects, look at what Haren and Bedard got traded for. And would likely wipe out most of our near ml ready prospect base. Leaving us with even less depth than we have now and few in house options to fill any holes that pop up, and likely without in house options for 1b, and the corners.
Why not Harang?
I just read the news that Aaron Harang cleared waivers. I’d rather have him than Bedard, Harden and Lackey (I’m sure you didn’t mean Haren), and I suspect he could (and maybe still can) be had for less. At the new park, I think Harang would be a very solid #2.
His GB rates kinda suck.
But he strikes out a ton of guys, and yeah, at Citi, he would kick some ass.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Oh
and for the record, I’ve wanted to do this for a while.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Also
Wolf and Marquis will be free agents again. They are not number 2s, but they can sure up a rotation.
Marquis huh?
We could sign him on the cheap to be a #3 plus he’s from New York so I’m sure he would love to sign here
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 10, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's an unconventional choice.
Joel Piniero. His tRA+ this year is 137. Just sayin’, he’d be a very smart pick up.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
They'd gain about 3 games
Just in not having to face him :)
We've had plenty of chances to get Marquis and Wolf
If it was going to happen, it would have happened by now. I really cant see them being targets unless Omar is fired.
Reynolds
Is absolutely “ridiculi” right now. Ridiculi is a word my friends and I used to use in Tecmo Bowl – when Bo Jackson was in “excellent” condition, we’d call him “ridiculi.”
11 homers in his last 13 games or something like that? What’s the record for homers in a 3 game series?
I can't believe no one mentioned this
Law school? What are you, nuts?
But, hey, enjoy your last bit of freedom before the nonsense of first year arrives. That was actually one of the more enjoyable years of my educational career.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Aug 10, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions
Seconded
Sheets and Rich Harden. Show me some K’s.
by James Kannengieser on Aug 11, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
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