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Some scouts apparently don't think much of Wilmer Flores.

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Why does anyone listen to the New York Post about anything ever?

I prefer to go with a scout who actually gives his name.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Aug 17, 2009 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

In fairness

I remember in Newman’s first report that included info on Wilmer and Marte, he did say Marte looked more polished, and that Wilmer seemed to be a bit immature, but he also went on to rave about Wilmer’s potential and about how when he squares balls up his swing is gorgeous.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Aug 17, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love how the anonymous scout

in turn remarks that other anonymous people agree with him.

by TheBigStapler on Aug 17, 2009 6:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Toby Hyde has a post about this earlier he brought up a pretty good point
Flores is just not a shortstop and is unlikely to play a premium defensive position. However, if you believe in him, you believe in his ability to become an above average hitter and grow into above average power. Of course he doesn’t have either of those tools fully developed yet, he’s 17. Scouts generally don’t like guys who are all bat, but simple hitting ability is the most important skill. And in this respect, hitting .269/.309/.347 at his age in the SAL is fairly outstanding. Note too that Flores is in the midst of a slump, having gone just 7-for-41. If the scout did see him recently, perhaps he’s seeing a tired kid.

Bontemps quotes Adam Wogan essentially to rebut the scout’s take on Flores

    "The most impressive thing for him is his control of the strike zone (56 strikeouts in 394 at-bats). . . . Regardless of age, he’s a really difficult player to strike out."

by Gina on Aug 17, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I mean seriously.

Do Bryce Harper or Steve Strasburgh play 6 month seasons?

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Aug 17, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Post? Oh, please.

It’s barely fit to line birdcages, much less be read. Notice how they waited until halfway into the column to mention his age? Or that they never mentioned that he’s well below the avg. age for the league? Sounds like Tim Bontemps (who?) lobby for job.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Aug 17, 2009 6:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Sounds to me

like he’s trying to ride on the success of True Blood

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Aug 17, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't believe anyone likes Marte better than Flores right now.

This guy should just shut up.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Aug 17, 2009 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

Ha: “This guy should just shut up.”

by mnbv on Aug 17, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I was a self respecting scout

I wouldn’t talk to the Post. In fact, even if I was a self conscious scout with a severe inferiority complex, I wouldn’t talk to the Post.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Aug 17, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

The Post is nothing but a tabloid right now

and the Daily News is getting to that point.

The newspaper is dying and I don’t know if its because people stopped buying and caused a decline in quality, or the declining quality has caused people not to buy. It’s sad either way

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Aug 17, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not all scouts are good at their jobs

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 17, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

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