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8 Run Applesauce - Mets set hit record, Manuel ticks off Church, Valdez back, Rizzo possibly out


Hooray for hits. Since the whole team refuses to take walks and they're paid to score runs, we're kind of left with hits and we got a lot of those, at least in the fourth inning. It's sad that the only player that remotely interests me is pitching tonight.

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Meet the Mets

Jerry Manuel called Ryan Church a "different animal" than David Wright. I haven't been able to find the context for the quote, whether he was calling him a wuss or whether or not he was just telling the truth in that Wright was a more valuable player who should be handled differently. Either way, Ryan Church found the quote important. So did the tabloids. It's been a while since we've seen a player-manager relationship this publicly bad.

With Alex Cora gone for the season, Wilson Valdez makes a repeat appearance.

Oliver Perez was better than Derek Lowe, at least for one night. It came at the cost, however, of a re-aggravated knee.

This seems too unbelievable, but I'll pass it along anyway without confirmation. The Mets will be paying Bobby Bonilla $1.2 million next year. And every year until 2035.

Johan Santana got a fine, no suspension, after his retaliation attempt.

Even though the Mets would probably get nothing for him after their waiver moves, Gary Sheffield expects to be moved before the season is through.

Around the NL East

There is a fair amount of buzz around Washington that acting GM Mike Rizzo is on his way out. One rumor has Steve Phillips' name tied to the job. Another has a new manager playing a big role in the front office (Bobby anyone?) On the field, the Nationals fell to the Rockies 4-3.

Don't expect the Nationals to call up Stephen Strasburg this year. BtB explains why Washington got their money's worth. Bob Nightengale pulls out the absurd credibility argument.

Pedro started for the Phillies last night, but was victim of a rain delay and didn't get past 3 innings. Jamie Moyer seems well adjusted to the long man role and got the win for Philadelphia over Arizona.

The Marlins collected 10 hits for the 14th straight game and beat up on the Astros, 6-2. Ricky Nolasco was the beneficiary.

Call them the anti-Mets, the Marlins signed all 12 of their top draft picks.

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15 teams signed all their top (10 rounds) draft picks.

Teams that signed all picks = 15
Teams that failed to sign 1 pick = 10
Teams that failed to sign 2 picks = 2 (Mets 7/9, White Sox 10/12 +1 for 2010)
Teams that failed to sign 3 picks= 2 (Rays 7/10 +2 for 2010, Blue Jays 9/12 +3 for 2010)
Teams that failed to sign 4 picks= 1 (Rangers 7/11 +2 for 2010)

by Michkin on Aug 19, 2009 8:22 AM EDT reply actions  

What the...

“I haven’t been able to find the context for the quote, whether he was calling him a wuss or whether or not he was just telling the truth in that Wright was a more valuable player who should be handled differently.”

I don’t think the Church family would agree that Wright is a more valuable anything than their son/ brother/ father. So, by your logic, players who aren’t very valuable could be rushed back and potentially end their careers, because they don’t really matter to the franchise? Economically, their livelihood is more affected by not playing than the $9MM man.

Put your brain on.

by BrightApollo on Aug 19, 2009 8:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Umm...what?

That’s clearly not what he was saying. And the aggression is kinda unnecessary.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Aug 19, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was pretty early

My brain probably wasn’t on. That being said, I mainly meant that Ryan Church is not nearly as valuable to the Mets as David Wright.

by Joe Budd on Aug 19, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

On that wonderful note...

Welcome to AA!

ain't had enough...

by BlackOps on Aug 19, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's pretty clear at this point

that Ryan Church just isn’t gangsta enough for Jerry. Never was never will be.

by dtro on Aug 19, 2009 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

so you are saying David Wright is gangsta?

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Aug 19, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Bonilla payments are real

it’s not really a big deal though or it shouldn’t be in a normal organization. Instead of paying Bonilla the remainder of his salary when they cut him, they’re paying him the time value equivalent amount for 25 years. It gave the Mets the liquid assets they needed at the time while giving Bonilla a retirement plan he couldn’t blow. Any normal company/organization probably accrued this expense at the time so there really shouldn’t be any financial impact, knowing the Mets though, they used cash basis accounting and that 1.2 million is coming out of the money available for draft signings.

by Sokojoe on Aug 19, 2009 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Soko - You're assuming the Mets are a normal organization.

OK. You’re going to have to explain this to me like I’m a 12 year old. “Cash Basis Accounting”? What does that fancy term really mean?

What I get from this article is that:
1. The Mets didn’t want to pay $5.9 million for the remainder of his contract (however long that was?)
2. The agreement stipulated that if he were to be released, the METS would pay him $1.2 million for 25 years starting in 2011?

What part of: “This is the biggest bunch of horse $hit!” am I missing?

" GIVE ME A BASEBALL GAME, A HOT DOG AND SOMEONE WHO IS NOT SITTING IN FRONT OF ME WITH A COWBOY HAT ON, AND I'M A HAPPY GUY. "

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Aug 19, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy crap man where have you been?

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Aug 19, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I blacklisted myself for a while

Something about a large gif. How ya doin Sam?!

" GIVE ME A BASEBALL GAME, A HOT DOG AND SOMEONE WHO IS NOT SITTING IN FRONT OF ME WITH A COWBOY HAT ON, AND I'M A HAPPY GUY. "

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Aug 19, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

As good as a Mets fan can be

how about that Strasburg?

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Aug 19, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Giggle...

To be honest, I’m just wondering how many years it will be before the Yankees put a package together and swindle him from the Nats?

I want to see the guy pitch, that’s for sure. I do plan on attending the Nats last three games of the season this year. Who do they play? You bet your sweet knees! The Mets!

" GIVE ME A BASEBALL GAME, A HOT DOG AND SOMEONE WHO IS NOT SITTING IN FRONT OF ME WITH A COWBOY HAT ON, AND I'M A HAPPY GUY. "

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Aug 19, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOU!

Moving up in fantasy I saw. How’s the job and all that (I see your posts on the Nats blog when I lurk)

by Sokojoe on Aug 19, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Castropians are just out of my reach!

In AA league # 2 (Team Name: Riddle Wrapd Enigmas), I’m crushin them fools! 1st place just about all season. 20+ games up on the next poor bastard. Damn it feels good to be a gangsta!

Missed a lot of the clowns around this place.

" GIVE ME A BASEBALL GAME, A HOT DOG AND SOMEONE WHO IS NOT SITTING IN FRONT OF ME WITH A COWBOY HAT ON, AND I'M A HAPPY GUY. "

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Aug 19, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

The job.

Got promoted. Work’s better. 7am – 3:30pm Mon-Fri. No more shift work for the brutha! Mets are killin me. …But it’s all good.

" GIVE ME A BASEBALL GAME, A HOT DOG AND SOMEONE WHO IS NOT SITTING IN FRONT OF ME WITH A COWBOY HAT ON, AND I'M A HAPPY GUY. "

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Aug 19, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nationals: Don't sign Steve Phillips.

Jim Duquette is your man. Strasburgh for Bronson Arroyo is just a phone call away.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Aug 19, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Oops, sorry.

Don’t know who I was referring to there. Obviously, I meant Brandon Arroyo.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Aug 19, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

when did this become a thing?

I remember Manny Rodriguez (and I forget who this “Stokes” is that everyone keeps mentioning), but I missed Brandon Arroyo.

by anonymous on Aug 19, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

why? why? why?

The only acceptable context to reference Ryan Church here is to say, “We saw what happens when a guy comes back too soon from a concussion. We won’t make the same mistake with David Wright.” Jerry’s comments – whether intentionally offensive or merely accidental – are head-smackingly stupid.

The only way to fix this is to accuse Church of lobbying for something.

What’s the single-season record for press conference apologies by a franchise? We’ve got to be getting close. Let’s keep the bleach and fireworks away from this clubhouse for the remainder of the year.

by metsjetsnets on Aug 19, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Church, he lobby for playing time

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 19, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's still funny

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Aug 19, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

this has nothing to do with anything..

but the guy from Scott Proctor’s Arm blog (lame) was on the Michael Kay show for his version of a Michael Kay Announcing drinking game. I feel the Gary, Keith and Ron drinking game is much better and Eric or James or whoever should be called upon to promote the blog.

"I used to be legit. I was too legit. I was too legit to quit. but now I'm not legit. I'm unlegit. And for that reason, I must quit."

by jaronson5 on Aug 19, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed

the GKR game has helped me through many a horrible loss, we should do everything in our power as a community to spread the joy that is the GKR game to our brother Mets fans and the world at large

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 19, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give Proctors Arm Credit

When Kay asked if the feedback was more positive or negative he told it like it is. Even said to Kay, do you want the truth?

Maybe Francesa should have the guys from Mikefrancesa.com on his show – that would be fun.

by MikeSilvaNYBD on Aug 19, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, the apocalpyse just happenned...Mike Francesca defended the Mets.
“Enough, with the Mets! You don’t have to, anymore, get the point across. (…) The Mets are like, you tied them to a tree and you just keep pounding them with their hands and feet tied. And you just keep beating on them, and beating on them, and beating on them, okay? It doesn’t take any toughness now to beat on the Mets. They are like a dead carcass on the side of the road. We understand that. The year was a disaster, they’ve been terribly inept and terribly unlucky in the same year, enough! You gotta stop beating on the Mets … The Mets right now could get knocked for anything. The Mets could cure cancer tomorrow and get knocked for it. (…) It’s no fun picking on somebody when everyone’s beating on them. Enough already, move on. The season’s dead, it’s over. (…) Beating on the Mets cannot be something that you think is any more clever, or tough, or a real strong opinion, to me its just piling on now. Get off the Mets back already! I can’t take it anymore! (…) There’s nothing left, I mean how about just everyone just back off a little bit and move on, I mean enough’s enough, jeez. You can’t tell me you like it anymore, it’s gotten to be sickening.”

Wow.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Aug 19, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, you know, stopped clock and such.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Aug 19, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

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