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Jeff Francoeur : Does his Defense at RF justify the Mets possibly keeping him?

I mean...I know this argument has been done to death as far as Church and Frenchy go. But I see Frenchy has a way better arm than Church did. We all know about OBP and all that business regarding Frenchy so I won't open that can of worms again. I just want to get everyone's opinion on whether his DEFENSE being good enough to warrant the Mets holding on to him in the foreseeable future.

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Well Church was better defensively.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Aug 2, 2009 9:51 AM EDT reply actions  

No

While his throwing arm is apparently as valuable as ever, his range has diminished. And like Evan said, Church is just as good as Frenchy in the field (if not better).

by James Kannengieser on Aug 2, 2009 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

And

Church can play a bit of center in a pinch. And he’s actually better than replacement level offensively.

by Eric Simon on Aug 2, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

No.

Because his defense isn’t good.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Aug 2, 2009 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Does anyone know what the weighting is

in better defensive stats of range vs arm for outfielders?

by deadspy3 on Aug 2, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

It's not so much weighting

it just tries to calculate the runs saved by each and add.

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Aug 2, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah ok, so

there’s no such thing as a ‘hidden’ awesome arm, really.

by deadspy3 on Aug 3, 2009 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think UZR and maybe +/-

account for baserunners not taking an extra base because an OF has a good throwing arm.

by James Kannengieser on Aug 3, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe that only applies to the batter in UZR's case.

I’m pretty sure plus/minus does factor that in.

"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."

-Jim Fregosi

by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 5, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Today's perfromance shows while he'll never be good enough to be a regular player.

He has played “well” since he’s been here and it’s still not enough to be an everyday RF. It’s a shame because he has some talent, but he will never succeed if he sees 1 pitch every other at bat.

Atlanta fans coined the “Failcoeur” nickname and I don’t like borrowing anything from them, so I shall henceforth refer to him as “One Pitch”.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Aug 4, 2009 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

*perfromance

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Aug 4, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow *performance

I am the Jeff Francoeur of spelling

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Aug 4, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

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