Mets Release Livan Hernandez, Activate Billy Wagner

And 7 local donut shops went out of business

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Wooooooooo

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Aug 20, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions

Wow

I did not think they had the balls to do this

by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 20, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

HOORAY!

by Syler on Aug 20, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions

So, Wagner pitching tonight

by Michkin on Aug 20, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions

I'll be happy when the team announces Figgy gets the starts.

I just hope it’s not Redding.

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 20, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions

Misch.

Just watch.

by The 'Ropolitans on Aug 20, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Lance Broadway?

maybe Ken Takahashi?

by KeithsMoustache on Aug 20, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions

I'd be ok with Broadway even though he sucks.

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 20, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions

yeah probably better option of the two

i think they’ll stick with figgy though

by KeithsMoustache on Aug 20, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions

hopefully figgy

by samdaman on Aug 20, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions

At last, a move that makes (some) sense.

by fxcarden on Aug 20, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions

which was then countered with a nonsensical move by starting Redding on Saturday

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 20, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions

earlier today that i was going to get stuck attending another livan start. i had already seen him get shelled for 17 earned in 15 2/3 this year. now i’ll get to complain about having to attend another redding start.

by pricedoutoftheciti on Aug 20, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions

Clearly the Mets intend to start Wagner on Friday.

After all, his arm is fresh.

by fxcarden on Aug 20, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Is their nobody in the Minors

That can come up?After Niese do we have any good pitchers in AAA?

by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 20, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions

Gee had shoulder surgery, the rest of the AAA rotation is already here.

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 20, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Just another reason

why Omar should be fired

by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 20, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Simple.

Short answer: No. Long answer: Nope.

by The 'Ropolitans on Aug 20, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions

An honor

I saw Livan’s last start for the Mets. A day I’ll never forget.

by The 'Ropolitans on Aug 20, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions

Excellent move.

Now we also save money by only having to spend 1/2 as much on the clubhouse buffet.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Aug 20, 2009 4:45 PM EDT reply actions

ha ha

by fxcarden on Aug 20, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Bart Hubbuch's twitter:

Jerry Manuel’s press conference has been delayed 30 minutes so far, so something obviously is up.

by The 'Ropolitans on Aug 20, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions

ill bet they accidentally dropped wagner instead of livan

by KeithsMoustache on Aug 20, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions

"Oops." -Omar

by The 'Ropolitans on Aug 20, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Wagner--you gotta understand---Wagner he lobby me for roster spot

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Aug 20, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

never gets old

by alexSVK on Aug 20, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions

For all the hate we heap upon Livan

He gave us some decent (albeit lucky as hell) starts at the beginning of the season. He never shoulda been counted on to last more than 10-12 starts

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Aug 20, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions

i won't argue we struck gold for 6 or 7 starts early, but he's been horrible since and will not be missed

by KeithsMoustache on Aug 20, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh

of course not. But Livan was exactly what we expected. The angst against Maine and Ollie are well warranted

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Aug 20, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Not true...

The pizza delivery guys in Flushing will all be in tears tonight (assuming he tips at all).

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 20, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Since the, though...

Month — ERA — WHIP
April — 6.75 — 1.453
May — 2.70 — 1.380
June — 3.69 — 1.359
July — 7.33 — 1.889
August — 1.30 — 2.372

by The 'Ropolitans on Aug 20, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions

then*

by The 'Ropolitans on Aug 20, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions

you don't often see an ERA under 2 and a WHIP over 2

by JoshNY on Aug 20, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions

O duh

I was looking at that trying to figure out why August was bad, I didn’t realize that his WHIP was up over 2, thanks.

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 20, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions

And

because his ERA is actually 11.30

by supermets on Aug 20, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions

So I close my web browser at work for a half an hour

and the Mets learn what a sunk cost is?

by mets81 on Aug 20, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions

Tim Redding is starting Saturday according to Bart Hubbuch

Ugh

by Syler on Aug 20, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions

OMG.

Hubbuch:

Tim Redding is filling Livan Hernandez’s start Saturday.

by The 'Ropolitans on Aug 20, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions

Horrible.

Not rewarding Nelson Figueroa — a guy who pitched his ass off in AAA.

by All Shook Down on Aug 20, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions

Like Church, they hate Figgy.

by The 'Ropolitans on Aug 20, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions

He really didn't impress with his stinker against Arizona

by Syler on Aug 20, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Horrible performance

But 3.00 tRA in AAA is nothing to sneeze at. Sure, he’s nothing but a AAAA pitcher, but rewarding him for a job well done is the right thing to do. Following the season, the Mets are going to have to scour the list of minor-league free agents to significantly upgrade their holes at AA and AAA. Showing sought-after MiLB free agents that you reward good organizational players could be a considerable recruiting tool.

by All Shook Down on Aug 20, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions

NOOOOOOOOOOO

by samdaman on Aug 20, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions

This move makes an ass out of Jerry Manuel

And rightfully so. Given three chances to take Livan’s ass out of the rotation, Jerry didn’t. Hopefully, Manuel is given his release too.

This also saves the Mets the embarrassment of having Livan Hernandez start the game following the Mets 1969 Celebration.

by All Shook Down on Aug 20, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions

Having Tim Redding start isn't much better, if at all

by Syler on Aug 20, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions

I was going under the assumption that Figgy was getting the start.

by All Shook Down on Aug 20, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions

But we still get to watch Tim Redding

CRAP

by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 20, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions

I hope they stick with Manuel, even if they decide to fire him at seasons end.

An interm manager can only impress Wilpon with a fluke hot streak. I’d rather take our time in the offseason, when we can actually do the job right.

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 20, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions

This is a possible good sign

They had no patience for Jerry’s: “that guy won me a ring.” Maybe (hopefully!) they have no patience for Jerry in general.

by SupT on Aug 20, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions

That is a good point

Jerry’s only case is that Redding and Figgy appeared his only alternatives. But to cut him after Jerry said he would pitch shows how little influence Jerry has and is kind of a bitch slap to Jerry. Maybe Omar doesn’t like the way he is running things right now? As if it’s Jerry’s fault he’s got these guys. That sounds like Omar-type logic. Omar Lobby Jerry for Redding start.

by David G on Aug 20, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions