Open Thread: Mets vs Phillies
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Happ has a 4.22 FIP and a 4.73 xFIP, but a 2.66 ERA
Regression needed. Will the Mets bring it?
Nothing to do with the Mets, but...
Did you see the story that punts are hitting the giant video screen that hangs over the field at the Cowboys’ new stadium?
Jerry Jones says he has no plans to move it. That’s hilarious.
I saw that on Ken Tremendous's Twitter
http://twitter.com/KenTremendous/status/3478706419
Now that is a choice stadium clusterfuck. Why does a stadium need to be like watching television, anyhow? Is that screen just the ownership conceding that you can’t see the game from the nosebleed seats?
Yeah he does pitch better vs Philly
And so does Ollie.If we play our cards right we could take 3/4
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 22, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
that would be a moral victory at least
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Moral Victories don't count
When we rallied against the Diamondbacks from 6-0 to lose 6-5, that was considered a moral victory. This isn’t little league.
when you're a mets fan moral victories are all we have
thats why Frenchy and Omir hitting the .300 OBP in the same week was like our world series
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Another gem from Tim McCarver
during the Yanks-Sawx game. He said it’s too bad that, like Mike Scioscia, Terry Francona wasn’t recognized as a “great” manager until he won a World Series. I’m guessing that’s because Francona managed for 4 seasons before 2004, with a record of 285-363. (Scioscia won the WS in his 3rd year, after going 157-167.)
2009 Mets---Mission: .500!
that's fine and good
but seriously, managerial W-L records are like ten times more meaningless even than pitchers’ W-L records. At least pitchers actually play the game.
Well, yeah
But W-L is the only stat really used to evaluate managers. Judging by Francona’s W-L with the Phillies, he was anything but “great”.
2009 Mets---Mission: .500!
and in the AL they're even more meaningless because they dont have to do anything
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
thats like seeing a UFO
everyone swears it happens, but nobody can prove it actually ever occurred
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Sub?
Defense?
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
the way i'm used to seeing the words sub and defense lately
are in the phrase “sub-par defense” and we get to see that every night
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I never saw 69
so I’ll go with 86 that Series vs the Astros was great and who could forget good old Buckner
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 22, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm a bit too young to have enjoyed either at the time.
had to watch them all in retrospect.
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
tough to argue contrarywise
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
IMO, they're equally awesome
The ’86 Mets won more regular season games, but their playoff series were more dramatic (which was also awesome). But the ’69 Mets are the benchmark for miracle seasons and gigantic upsets.
2009 Mets---Mission: .500!
oh definitely not taking anything away from the 86 mets
its just when i think mets WS the first thing that comes to mind is Miracle Mets
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I'm sure
I never saw either of them, so it would be dumb for me to try to choose between them.
2009 Mets---Mission: .500!
Let's hope it doesn't rain
That would really ruin the legacy of Howie’s comments.
2009 Mets---Mission: .500!
it'll rain as soon as he walks off the field
thereby never raining on the 69 mets
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
yup, he finally gets his shot now that he's not blocked by the great Livan
its your time to shine redding!
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
if tim mcgraw was here
that would have been so awkward
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
you can here the planes even on the TV
jeez
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
joe pignatano
also won the 1959 world series playing for LA
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
wonder what kind of reception
nolan ryan will get
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
But he didn't really do anything to hurt the Mets
other than headpunch Robin Ventura at one point, who wasn’t even a Met then.
just switched on the philly station cause its the only one i get and they’ve got a rerun of some stupid sitcom on is the game delayed
That's a dick move
It does not matter that the Phills hate the Mets but that 69 team is one of the greatest teams in sports
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 22, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
it's not unusual though
red sox wouldnt show a tribute to the 1927 yanks
yanks wouldnt show a tribute to the 2004 sox
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
yeah but who wants to compare themselves to the yankees or red sox
when discussing whats considered classy?
i agree though, i doubt many teams would show this.
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure
SNY doesn’t show it when opponents do it. Maybe a few clips and a minute devoted to talking about it.
2009 Mets---Mission: .500!
yeah i know nobody does
i just like ripping on the yankees and red sox
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
That's about all they could hope for.
It’s a good bet that they’d have a hard time keeping Keith awake during the proceedings.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
koosman looks kind of like
tommy lasorda
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
Cool to see Nolan Ryan wearing a Mets jersey
very cool
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
This dude cannot sing at all
He is terrible.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
i was unimpressed
but its still far better than when they have a woman sing it and they insist on showing off their “vocal range” by breaking out the shrillest, most unnecessarily high pitched note they can manage at the end of the song
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
ladies and gentlemen your 2010 starting rotation
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
Good News!!!!!!
http://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/statuses/3480934657
Now Omar can’t be duped into signing him.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
His grission was gonna put us over the top next year
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
he actually could be useful
if clubs knew the right way to use him: as a backup
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
Backups are only useful
if they’re actually good at baseball.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
he's better then a lot of backup infielders nowadays
he’s not an awful player, he’s useful as a backup utility man
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
He's pretty awful,
and he hasn’t had a UZR/150 above 0 since 2004 at any position he’s played. The ability to play multiple positions poorly doesn’t make up for the inability to hit.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Jenrry "My New God" Mejia through 2 innings:
1 hit, no walks, no runs and 3 strikeouts
And why hasn’t I Like Ike been playing recently?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Oh ad they're teaching Jerry Ball early now
Kirk Nieuwenhuis singled then Reese sac bunted!
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
at least the orgainzation is consistent
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
They didn't score that inning
I was surprised
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
ike strained his ribs
and nieuwenhuis is 3 for 3, 1b/2b/3b, all off of a lefty.
kirk could be something.
by firejerrymanuel on Aug 22, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe some Nolan Ryan magic
will rub off on Redding
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
I really try not to nitpick...
but wouldn’t this ceremony been more apropos to open the stadium? You would have run absolutely no risk of doing this in a throw away stadium, and would have been able to head off the year-long criticism of having no connection to the past.
Even if the Mets were in first place in a dogfight for a division title this would have been better done at the start of the season. Just me.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Wow we really do suck ass
and I have undeniable proof of that fact.
No one streams the games anymore. Not even this one.
Redding to Santos
makes me nauseous
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
side note
can we all agree not to predict the mets as world champions next year, whenever a bunch of people do that (like this year) it always gets fucked up
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
No problem
When we have no player capable of hitting 20 HR, and one good pitcher, it should be pretty easy not to predict a WS title.
Wright and beltran aren't capable of hitting 20 homers?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Frenchy can hit 20...
I bet he can get his RBI total higher than his OBP.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Well if Redding isn't inspired by hanging with Ryan and Seaver, then
someone needs to pupt a bullet in his head.
Can redding throw at his head
I fucking hate this little piece of shit
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
what was the bad call
i was getting a snack
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
The pitch really missed
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
How many MVP vote does Ryan Howard and his awesome .351 OBP garner this year?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
he's not getting MVP
and he shouldnt, because of this guy named Albert Pujols
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
i doubt pujols is in any way chemically enhanced
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't doubt that with anyone anymore.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
eh i think he's clean, griffey is clean
few others
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I should rephrase that
Nobody would surprise me at this point.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeter?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I'm to the point where it wouldn't surprise me.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't surprise me either
he’s just the poster boy for plaing the game the right way
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I'd bet money that eckstein did...
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
His grission isn't natural?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I just don't think he had the natural talent to sustain his career without them.
That type of player is exactly who I’d expect. He also had a pretty sharp downturn in his career when testing began.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
even if he is
we cant deny him an MVP because of the chance that he might be on the roids
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
I woder if Jeff Francoeur ever used steroids?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Wonder not woder
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
if knowing how to use steroids is so important
why isnt it on the scoreboard?
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
But the voters like Howard
so he’ll still get some
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Hey
Over on the Real Dirty Dugout. It’s pretty lonely over there right now though. LOL.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
id love for it to be like that yankees at tigers game a few years ago
and end at 3 AM
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
WTF
I’m still trying to figure out why Omar put Sheff on waivers, then pulled him back without trying to make a deal.
Makes no sense, no how…
because if he let him go, we'd have negative offense.
and besides….why can’t Sheff be 2010’s Marlon Anderson ?.
To gage interest.
Apparently, Omar didn’t like what they were offering.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounded like there were no negotiations.
I can understand if he tried to work a deal with SF and couldn’t, but it sounds like he just pulled Sheff back without even trying to work anything out.
I've seen a few reports that the Giants claimed him to block other teams.
I’m guessing they didn’t get much of an offer.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
a 1-2-3 inning with a foul ball
sounds about right
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
"what have you done for me lately"
is a bad outlook on the team that too many of us seem to have
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
In Keith's mind...
he’s still 25. LOL.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Easy
Church defensive>Francoeur defensive
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Church>Fail
No one could bring themselves to say it, which is interesting.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Aug 22, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Why did I right densive and not defense
Damn you GKR drinking game!
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Wow
I’m gonna stop typing for a while. Spelling errors galore
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
'I want to be here until I'm at least 80'
‘Pray for me’.
Gotta love Keith.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
admirable to say the least
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
I want the 2010 Mets uniform to look like the 69 one.
we have the technology. we can make it happen.
we're going to wear the mercury mets unis
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
Oh, yeah...
Redding looking real sharp tonight. Sigh…..
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions
wait, tim redding rainbows is starting?
we havent cut him yet? dag. ive been out of the loop for a while but didnt think it was still this shitty.
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
mow em down tim tim
mow them down
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
Love when one of GKR are relegated to standing in the background when Ralph visits
by James Kannengieser on Aug 22, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
it's a sign of respect...i love it
Jerry the Clown: available for birthdays, bar mitzvahs and unfortunately all Met games as well
by Ballonthewall on Aug 22, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I kind of wish Kiner was senile
so he could tell Ron “I could rocket your pussy fastball into the sun”
is that kenny powers?
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
Agreed.
Respect. And Mr. Kiner has more than earned it.
I’ve been a fan long enough to remember Kiner’s Corner. I loved that show.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Frenchy...
Nice. That kid is always smiling. Does he realize he’s on the NY Mets right now?
LOL.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions
If I played baseball for a living...
id be happy all the time.
Omar and Jerry, dumbest tandem in baseball.
that hit was......
FRENCHTASTIC
yeah!
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
pure gold more like!
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
also awesome!
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
Monsieur Happ...
You’ve been Frenched!
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions
Mets WS prediction?
If you had to bet, what year would you say the Mets will next (if ever) win the WS?
I’ll say 2013-ish.
It worked!
Santos drives in Francoeur, pure floetry
by James Kannengieser on Aug 22, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
hopefully murphy will make up for it in the field
with some quality murph diving
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
Flurg.
We’ll need some grit to grind our way out of this one.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions
Oh, I'm sorry, I mean--
IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT YOUR NAME IS!
(Because you’re the world champions and heading back to the playoffs, and the remainder of the games we play with you will be relatively meaningless.)
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
How much $ did Daniel Murphy make last year?
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
How do you figure that out?
League Min. * % of season played?
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Aug 22, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
francine scores a run
and last time i checked that was the most important stat of them all
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
Theat and Ribeyes!
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
THAT not THEAT
why can’t I type???
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
please
wins will matter as soon as they start keepiong track of them on the scoreboard. they dont pay francuoer for wins.
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
RBI is a tricky stat.
If you put two shitty hitters in front of a really good one, he won’t get chances.
If you put two great hitters in front of a shitty one, he’ll get more chances.
if we had 3 frenchies
we could put one awesome hitter in front of 2 awesome hitters.
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
RBI is a shitty stat
not tricky
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
In order, best to worst
Scully, Kiner, Rizzuto
by James Kannengieser on Aug 22, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Have to agree.
Scully over Kiner by a small margin.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I should've written it:
Scully, Kiner……………………………………….. Rizzuto
To demonstrate the large gap between Rizzuto and the other 2
by James Kannengieser on Aug 22, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Scully's voice,
but he talks way too much. It makes me mental to try to watch a game when there isn’t one second of silence.
Scully hands down
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Not Rizzuto
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Aug 22, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Kiner
His stories are wonderful and have an ending at least.
by cuseindahuse on Aug 22, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I do believe that it's long overdue that AA give Omir his props
He’s almost a full win above replacement. Not too shabby for a guy with a .640 AA OPS
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
BAH
“Never surrender” – the secret AA motto
by James Kannengieser on Aug 22, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Kidding, Omir has earned his keep
Plus his t-shirt may be the highlight of the season
by James Kannengieser on Aug 22, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
By "Keep"
you mean as a back up to Thole
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 22, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
i'll be in the cold cold ground before i reocognize omir
for being anything but a lightening inducing badass that is.
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
Wright and Putz could be back in September
whats the fucking point David? Could JJ be traded earlier?
http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090822&content_id=6560220&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
Dear David
Sit the rest of this fuckin season out! What the fuck are you thinking?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
He wants to play
He loves the game and hates not to play it
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 22, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
You could say the same about Reyes,
except it wouldn’t be true.
Wow
and what are you basing this statement on? Some Matt Cerrone propaganda?
by James Kannengieser on Aug 22, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah, this comes from the office of
Mike Francesca
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Aug 22, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, so that's where Cerrone has gotten his recent Reyes info
I don’t listen to Francesca or WFAN for that matter. Don’t understand why anybody does.
by James Kannengieser on Aug 22, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I try not to listen to Francesa
but it beats Mike Silva
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Aug 22, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Fransilvacesa
Basically the same person
by James Kannengieser on Aug 22, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
ha
Too true. I think Silva is more pathetic.
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Aug 22, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Silva has his uses.
Reading his crap makes everyone feel smarter.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
he says dumber things
then Frenchy
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Aug 22, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Think of Silva as comic relief
Not that we need it this season
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Who else loves Frenchy but hates Reyes
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
I listen because I’m a masochist. Same reason I watch O’Reily
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Thanks Francesa
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure I remember Reyes screaming at Jerry Manuel after Jerry took him out a precautionary measure last year.
But yeah, Jose hates to play.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Please...
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Aug 22, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
You're definitely on the wrong site
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
now watch
we’ll go undefeated through all of september
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
If his head is ok, let him play
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Tim Redding has a no hitter?
If he’s the first, I will laugh.
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
that would be embarassing
but awsome
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i have such great memories of kiner/murphy/nelson from my childhood
could listen to those guys all day long, day after day
Jerry the Clown: available for birthdays, bar mitzvahs and unfortunately all Met games as well
I remember Fran Healy
ugh
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
shef did not appear to be hustling on that play
Jerry the Clown: available for birthdays, bar mitzvahs and unfortunately all Met games as well
He's 40, and he has the 2nd best OBP on the team
stop criticizing him
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Aug 22, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
jjst keep him in the parkm timmy boy
Jerry the Clown: available for birthdays, bar mitzvahs and unfortunately all Met games as well
nice
Jerry the Clown: available for birthdays, bar mitzvahs and unfortunately all Met games as well
Well...
Sheff is good at catching those fly balls he doesn’t have to run to get….
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions
+1
He’s like Luis only in the outfield
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 22, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Every time Sheff catches the ball....
he stares into his glove and wonders how it got there.
Omar and Jerry, dumbest tandem in baseball.
if youre a no fielding cant walk over rated 1B stupid idiot
with a stupid jerk face and no brains, then you should not be MVP
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
Wow your picture is sweet
What’s your favorite Death Wish? Gotta be 3
by James Kannengieser on Aug 22, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm sorry i just hate that man so much!
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
its all i can do to retrain myself from smashing my computer monitor right now!
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
That would be fun.
A minimum-competency test for all prospective MVP candidates… “Hit the Replacement-level starter”
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah but replacement level
is too fictitious
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Aug 22, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
he will be our starting LF NEXT YEAR
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 22, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Upper-deck. Right here.
Book it.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions
Or the big screen at cowboy stadium.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Or the Tappan Zee.
Bitch gon’ skip a borough.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
NICE stop.
But ees too late.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions
not really...
I think he was out
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Um...
… according to blue, anyway.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
that was almost a sweet play
good thing rollins sucks
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions
That was VERY close.
Still can’t tell if he was really safe. Looked like a tie.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions
Big SheffFAIL.
We’ll need some frog magic.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions
The hate is swelling in you now. Let the hate flow through you, Frenchy.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions
Let's guess what it was
Senator/Emperor Palpatine
by James Kannengieser on Aug 22, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice guess...
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
tripod.com makes me angry too
it killed my whole family
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Phillies
bussed in 5 buses full of Philly fans for tonight’s game…
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions
LOL.
Hope they have extra security at whatever section that group bought tickets in…
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Were the buses all of the short variety?
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL.
Phillies Nation blog sponsored the trip. Can’t imagine why, unless they wanted to see Citi. I, for one, would never go to CBP to see the Mets play the Phils….
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
It's worth a trip at least once.
Nice park. Great food.
Don’t take kids to the night games.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL.
After seeing that ADULT male philly fan bean a 10 year old cardinal fan with a bottle of water a month ago – just b/c he was holding up a ‘Pulols for President’ sign, I’d have to agree with you…
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
So it posted somewhere on a baseball blog. Apparently, the surrounding phillies fans LAUGHED, except for two older woman who yelled at the guy. Then some fans yelled at the woman.
Only in Philly…
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Read the first comment
http://www.thefightins.com/tr-pierce/july-24-game-recap-cardinals-8-phillies-1/
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
My brother hit Bryan Cox in the face with a snowball at a Bills game...
It happens everywhere.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
It being dick fans.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
i went
its a nice park, and the phillies fans i ran into were tolerably obnoxious for the most part
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Over on PhilliesNation.com
They organized that trip about 2 months ago. Said it was 250 people.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
kind of tough to root for the mets
and have problems with giving money to the wilpons, no?
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
maybe those buses will taker a detour on the way home
to the bottom of the hudson river.
haha, i wish those fans were dead!
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
i hope so!
ive been laying it on as thick as possible for a while now. bout time someone realized i wasnt serious.
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
what do you know about winning baseball games?
all this talk of “clutch” and “not giving up more runs than you score”
nonsense, is what it is
francuoer is just waiting for a more heroic moment
then we will truely see his masterstroke.
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
Keith ain't giving up his seat for no one!
by James Kannengieser on Aug 22, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions
Do the '69 Mets say this version
sucks? I bet Seaver could get Francoeur out
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
Oh don't say that
Castillo’s new son couldn’t, Because he can’t throw yet
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Aug 22, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Dicktorino
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Dick Torino, Fat Bastard who does Subway commerical
The dick who said they were the team to beat, there motherfucking second baseman.
Oh, and choker. Did I go a little far?
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Aug 22, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I would love the mets to play him in game 7 of the NLCS and then see who chokes
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 22, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Close...
but he’s second on my list behind Victorino. Victorino is just a whiner…
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Exceedingly nice guy.
Also, had to claw his way up the chain, as an unheralded, mid-twenties prospect.
ALSO, native New Yorker.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone loves to rip on Seaver
Did Ibañez really take HGH?
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
No proof. No body changes.
But then, how would we know, unless he came out and told us?
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Redding looks so good tonight...
… I thought for a second I had beer goggles.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions
reminds me of the best mcdonalds campaign ever
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
For whatever reason...
Redding has pitched very well against the Phillies in the past.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Santos' OBP goes up like 5 points
whenever he gets on base
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Aug 22, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
It's going to be a tight race
to see who has a higher OBP at the end of the season
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 22, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Murphy
He can still be worth something if the Mets know how to treat him.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
Please tell me
that I did not hear Gary call Santos a #1 option at catcher. Pleeeease tell me I didn’t hear that.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
Well.....
hate to confirm that but yeah, that’s exactly what he said. I have no problem with Omir as the backup catcher but #1?
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
As of right now, he probably is
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Our #1 catcher...
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Thole
won’t be up here next year. He’s not ready.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
He doesn't have to be ready
He just has to be better than Santos.
Cleon had a .422 OBP in 1969….That’s pretty f—n impressive. No wonder that chick wanted to get into the van with him.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Aug 22, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Cleon's 1969 was epic
At the plate and in the field
by James Kannengieser on Aug 22, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
OBP!!!!
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
It's got to be above .310
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
Wow, Hernandez sucks so much
that the Spill gets the start
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
WILSON!!!
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
by metsguy234 on Aug 22, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
C'mon, Chin Pubes.
Help your own cause™.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions
Hey, he moved the runners up
Manufacturing runs
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
consitent
Joe Morgan’s favorite word
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Aug 22, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah this isn't even fun suck
this is just generic suck.
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
At least we're back to the top of the order.
Reyes, Castillo, Wright, Beltran, Delgado, Church is always good for runs.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
i just shed a tear
followed by a few thousand more
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, that doesn't look right
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Aug 22, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I used to get excited when we had the top of the order leading off.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I used to get excited
when Wright and Beltran and Sheffield were all hitting
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Aug 22, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Man...
least they can do is get Redding a couple three runs since he’s pitching decent tonight. So far, he’s stopped those philly bats.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions
Frick.
If you could go back in time to white-trash southern California in the late seventies, and kill a young Chase Utley, WOULD YOU DO IT?
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions
OK I don't catch the reference
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Aug 22, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Oooh.
Savvy choice. Lofty choice.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather go back in time and tell the Mets to draft him outta high school
circa 1997
by James Kannengieser on Aug 22, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd also go back in time to 1965
and tell the Mets to draft Reggie Jackson
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Aug 22, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
football?
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Aug 22, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Score would've been even higher...
… if those punters hadn’t hit the video board.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHA
Yeah, what’s going on in that series? We couldn’t score 14 or 20 runs in 5 games if we tried.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
30-29
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Aug 22, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
try 10 games
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Aug 22, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Look what I found.
Quick reaction there, Timmy.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions
2 runs in 14 innings
Man, if we had a real team this year. What could have been…..
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions
Great, Dick Shortstop is up
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
"So... Um..."
“Anyone want to play UNO?”
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Cleon Jones
Sounds like the uncle I wish I’d had.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
"SAY 'MIRACLE' AGAIN!"
“I DARE YOU! I DOUBLE DARE YOU!”
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Kiner was very funny as Cleon Jones left.
he said….you know, when I had Cleon on Kiner’s corner, he hardly said anything.
not giving up this lead
Misch-ion impossible
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions
Redding threw 3 innings 2 days ago
Hence the pitch count. His arm is not Gumby.
by cuseindahuse on Aug 22, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Brought back today.
Dandy Andy Green DFAed.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
It's the Jersey...
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
why was redding on a pitch count
he’s always been a starter, save for like 5 games in relief this year
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
this team will kill me one day.
Redding is cruising, and you take him out just when the heart of the batting order is coming up…….pitch count my ass…….it’s not like he’ll be back next year….so what if his arm explodes.
hes a starter anyway
he always has been except for his 5 or so relief appearances this year
"Solo homers usually come with no one on base." -Ralph Kiner
Jerryball
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions
I am speechless.....
Pat fucking Misch is the best we can bring out to support a great effort by Redding.
Nice long outing too...
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
i just tuned in dammit
no longer my favorite mischtake
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
but i cannot be blamed for what
Green is about to do
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Aug 22, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
this is why we can't have 2 lefties
because jerry will use him NO MATTER HOW AWFUL HE IS.
oooh!! a lefty!!!! must use!
glad he saved feliciano for that big spot… with the lead.
by firejerrymanuel on Aug 22, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions
oh god, green now
its a parade of crap, the 69 mets must be ashamed
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions
I just do not understand the choice there.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions
In Jerry's defense
Redding threw an absurd 81 pitches
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
but his beard threw 45 of those
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Aug 22, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
It's getting worse...
I swear that starting pitchers now just pitch for a “win”, throwing as many pitches as needed to make 5, and only 5 IP.
I’ve never seen so many 100+ pitch counts in 5 IP as this year.
it would be rationale behavior on their part
save their arms and add to their states. managers let them get away with it.
someone needs to step in. batman maybe.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Aug 22, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I know.
There’s really no incentive for a SP to pitch more than 5 innings. Their stuff isn’t going to get any better as the game goes on, and they get the “W” after 5.
Serious question...
So seriously, does Redding just leave the park at this point? I assume he’s getting his arm iced, but is he supposed to sit around for the next hour, or is he free to just beat the traffic and leave?
I don't care what his pitch count was...
He gave up what? 1 hit?
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions
Jerry read it in a magazine...
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
and
here’s the insurmountable lead
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Like this?
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I absolutely do not get it. Leave him out there, on a short leash. He was cruising.
The Phils are the ONLY team Redding does well against.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
It's the Joe Maddon style glasses.
He’s gangsta-tricky
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
he's a clown and a poor manager
Jerry the Clown: available for birthdays, bar mitzvahs and unfortunately all Met games as well
by Ballonthewall on Aug 22, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Jerry Manuel is such an idiot
Is he watching the same game that we are. He takes out pitchers who are dealing, and leaves in players who hit DP’s all day. Does this guy understand the concept of baseball?
sny can't afford some extra chairs?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Man, I was such a huge jerry supporter at the beginning of the season
This guy is ridiculous, I wish I would have saw it much earlier. Instead, I give him break because of the depleted lineup. But when you do stupid crap like this, it’s unforgivable.
Please
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I loved Bobby V...
But I don’t think this is the right situation or time for him. This team needs talent more than a manager.
this is beyond words.
even if you took out Redding because of the stupid pitch count……………Pat Misch ?. Pat Misch ?
Stop hating on Francoeur
He’s currently the best player in the lineup.
by Abstract NYC on Aug 22, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell no, and please don't give me the average.
Before his recent resurgence, I’m sure you wanted him gone.
by Abstract NYC on Aug 22, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree....
He still makes boneheaded plays.
by Abstract NYC on Aug 22, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
400 OBP sucks doesn't it?
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I know there is no point
When somebody does something this dumb i get pissed
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 22, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure it is...
With the team out of contention, this our playoffs. Whooping the Phillies is a obligation.
by Abstract NYC on Aug 22, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah.
Fractured sternum.
Next time he stretches out to make a great defensive play/hit a walkoff HR, it will kill him.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice management Jerry
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions
yeah i'd kill that dude
but hilarious
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
69 celebration was incredible....
Tim Redding’s performance, incredible…. Jerry Manuel always has to mess up a good thing.
yeah goddamnit
Redding pleasantly surprised us and this is how you repay him?
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Not wanting to risk...
… hurting an about-to-move commodity?
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
"Hey Jerry, I think I could keep going"
“Nah you’re done”
“But I feel great.”
“You look tired. Go sit down.”
“But-”
“No buts. Ha! Ha! Ha!”
Jerry...
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
+1000
The papers better roast his ass
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 22, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
insult to injury
i’m sitting next to a philly fan who just says to me i still don’t understand wht they took redding out
It doesn't seem that hard to figure out...
He came to the game on one of the 5 short buses from Philly.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm still trying to figure out
why you take a veteran pitcher out after 5 with 69 pitches who only had given up one hit. Can someone please explain???
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, you're right.
but come on, 1 hit thru 81?
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah let him go
also this is the greatest outpouring of support ive ever heard for tim redding, i hope he reads AA and gets a confidence boost
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I was getting ready to give Tim Redding his props
On pitcher a 1 hitter through 7, so much for that, right?
by Abstract NYC on Aug 22, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It's so funny...
I know this White Sox fan, who warned me about Jerry Manuel, and I payed no attention to him. I might have to apologize for not doing so lol.
Jerry
was known as the ‘tinkerer’ over there in Chicago. Many questioned his constant tinkering of the lineup and use of the BP.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
i question his ability to form thoughts
or dress himself in the morning
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's a proven fact that a constant lineup performs better
than one that changes every day.
Also, nice bunt Willy.
And you know
he was doing that tinkering thing BEFORE the injuries. Remember when he kept saying Church was his RF in April, then he’d sit him down for 2 and 3 games?
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
i hope when happ's regression comes
and it inevitability will, that it comes in the least opportune moment, and is incredibly brutal.
by firejerrymanuel on Aug 22, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions
god willing
dude’s BABIP and LOB% are insane.
please come soon. and last forever.
by firejerrymanuel on Aug 22, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
It's really hard to regress against the Tee-Ball team we threw at him tonight.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Wierd
I was like, intermittently checking up on the game and the n it’s like…what? Redding’s gone? Why? And then like Minch? What? Why? And then Utley…and like picking up the pieces when my head explodes.
I seriously hadn’t followed the Mets in so long I’d forgotten how it feels to actually want them to win, and watch them lose, and watch Jerry Manuel “manage” his way out of a boner throughout the game.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
Maybe
if we’re still down by 2, we’ll see Lidge in the 9th. He’s very hittable this year.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions
This one has always been my favorite
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
no
that’s a cartoon. it’s meant to be a joke already.
by firejerrymanuel on Aug 22, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
This is a good one too
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Simpsons usedto be so great
now its just merely good to very good
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
i cannot fucking stand
when they praise other pitcher’s for their efforts against this mets AAA team.
way to go happ, you can get out wilson valdez!
by firejerrymanuel on Aug 22, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions
I'd like to see him vs our full line up
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 22, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
wright's OPS
vs. happ is like 1.2
so is beltran’s
and delgado’s
by firejerrymanuel on Aug 22, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I love how Luis is batting .329 with RISP
but never seems to drive in a run.
Infield hits mean nothing.
an infield single with a guy on second isnt gonna score a lot of runs
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, that's what I'm saying.
I mentioned earlier that his BA is a fluke because he leads the league with infield hits.
Ehh
His BABIP is .347, which is slightly higher than his career mark of .333. But his LD% is 21%, his highest since 2005, so he is hitting the ball hard. I’d say he’s been moderately lucky but his BA is not a fluke.
by James Kannengieser on Aug 22, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
geez...it's not his game..how hard is that to understand
he is in the top ten in the league in hitting, has a great OBP…yes, he sucked last year and yes he dropped that damned popup against the yanks…but he is having avery good year and doing a great job as a #2 hitter….how can you deny that?
Jerry the Clown: available for birthdays, bar mitzvahs and unfortunately all Met games as well
by Ballonthewall on Aug 22, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
He's no Francoeur though
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
after last year with their fucking bullpen
it’s gonna be fucking great when they luck into happ and blanton having ridiculous fluke years
by firejerrymanuel on Aug 22, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions
thanks for running that one out
this year is a mess.
the only 2 players having good season’s are awful players whose presence on the team next year is going to kill us.
by firejerrymanuel on Aug 22, 2009 9:47 PM EDT reply actions
this team needs one bold fan
who is willing to sacrifice himself for the greater good
and take a pipe to castillo’s knees, manuel’s face, and wilpons gonads
by firejerrymanuel on Aug 22, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
At least are games are short...
Can you imagine sitting through a 4 1/2 hour Yankee game if they sucked this bad?
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
*our*
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I commend you guys.
As much as you hate the way the Mets have been playing, you guys still come back to talk about the next game, talk about being true fans.
It's not summer
without my NY Met baseball. I’ll be watching until the bitter end….
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder...
… whether sitting through seasons like this is doing irrevocable things to my psyche.
And whether those things are good.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 22, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah his favorite team is managed by Joe Torre
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Aug 22, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
why stop at manager?
Front office and coaching staff need work to put it nicely.
Omar and Jerry, dumbest tandem in baseball.
Thats classic
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
america is an idiot
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Aug 22, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
i want to see it
saw district 9 today instead
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah im looking forward to seeing it
district 9 was good, not quite what i expected but i really enjoyed it
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
What's Jerry's explanation going in his postgame reaction?
“Well, historically, he’s pitched well in these situations”
He thinks Pat Misch
is a different type of animal that Tim Redding
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 22, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
More Fail...
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions
its amazing how many mets players names lend themselves to fail
in felicianos defense his arm is going to fall off this year
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, that's one.
Odds we get 2 more with no runs scored?
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 9:57 PM EDT reply actions
I hate walking the bases loaded for him
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Socks is better than Misch.
That’s for sure….
by Abstract NYC on Aug 22, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
damn right he is
he has unraveled the mysteries of the universe
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
cant blame socks for that one
backed into a corner
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
Oh c'mon R and K
that’s a passed ball
by James Kannengieser on Aug 22, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
Um...That's a not-particularly-rare passed ball
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
Mets show no determination or drive...
Once they get down, they just give up. It’s ridiculous, isn’t it the truth when they say your team is a reflection of your manager?
are you retarded?
seriously, did you just write that?
by firejerrymanuel on Aug 22, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
how does that comment make me retarded?
by Abstract NYC on Aug 22, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
because you're complaining about
a team that has wilson valdez, omir santos, jeff francoeur, etc., for “not coming back.”
uh, they just suck.
by firejerrymanuel on Aug 22, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
So you're telling me that a teams performance can't be influenced by a manager
If not so, why are so many fans lobbying for Bobby Valentine? Wouldn’t he be managing the same team?
by Abstract NYC on Aug 22, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
why do i have to answer
for other people clamoring for bobby v?
by firejerrymanuel on Aug 22, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Dumbass managing is different than not trying.
We want Jerry gone due to poor decision making.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Now you're name calling?
Come on, that’s pretty immature. When a team can score when the game is “scoreless” but have no ability to come back. Is that not of all in lack of not trying? I understand the team is bad, but at least show some heart.
by Abstract NYC on Aug 22, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
My problem with the heart argument
is that there is no objective way to measure. We can say that it looks like they have no heart, but we don’t really know. It’s impossible to measure.
by lstorie1971 on Aug 22, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
There's no name calling there at all.
“Dumbass managing” was in reference to Jerry’s decision making.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think he was putting enough heart into reading your sentence
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
What commas?
If I had said “Dumbass, managing is different than not trying”, that would imply an insult. The lack of a comma was the correct use to get my point across.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
This team is lucky to score at all, regardless of the situation.
They have a lineup full of terrible hitters.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
This team doesn't suck because of Jerry Manuel
They suck because, as others have noted, they suck. People want Bobby V. mainly because he’s not Jerry Manuel.
by James Kannengieser on Aug 22, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Although Jerry Manuel's managing certainly does contribute to the suck
by James Kannengieser on Aug 22, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Because lack of talent is the issue
not lack of trying.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Bobby V
He better be a Met next season after all the Crap that Jerry does
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 22, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
if stokes can learn how to pitch to lefties
that would be great.
by firejerrymanuel on Aug 22, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
Not that there's anything wrong with it
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Anybody's own sexual preference is nobody's business but their own
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
These two sentences combined is a Seinfeld reference
that’s what I was going for, don’t know about Schmidt though
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Same here...
I miss that show
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Curb Your Enthusiasm is a superior show.
by lstorie1971 on Aug 22, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
NO!!!!!!!!
I love Curb but Seinfeld is superior in every single way imaginable.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
It's on literally everday
and I watch it and know the lines verbatim
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I should have said I miss new episodes.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Been off the air 11 years now
and I still prefer reruns to almost any other new show right now.
by James Kannengieser on Aug 22, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I was eight when it went off
And I have literally seen every episode like 1000000000000000000000000 times
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
That makes me feel old....
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
for those about to Socks!
we salute you
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 22, 2009 10:07 PM EDT reply actions
I laugh
every time Gary said the heart of the batting order is coming up….
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions
gkr fail
sheffield is gonna turn it up! into a slower grounder to third
by firejerrymanuel on Aug 22, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
What a way to honer the 69 Mets
With this jackass of a manager costing us yet another Game
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 22, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
We should have only used four
Redding,Pedro,SOCKS,and K-rod
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 22, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
We should have
let Redding start the 6th, no question.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Now we score a meaningless run and...
this will be sold to us as a hard fought game, because we beat them by the same score the night before on another hard fought game.
Talent to score runs now, but couldn't earlier in the game...
Then people get on me for the heart argument. : /
by Abstract NYC on Aug 22, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Mets fans get so frustrated about losing...
That they condemn fellow fans, just to take out their anger. I know, it’s been a disappointing season, just suck it up, and we’ll get them next year.
But your reasoning for us losing is asinine
No team loses for lack of trying or leadership, they lose because other teams are better or sometimes, just have bad luck in a game or two
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I didn't say that was the main reason though...
All I said is that we don’t show no determination to come back. Were the kind of team that has to score first, then play from behind. That’s not so much from a talent standpoint, but lack of drive. Yes, I know, were a bad team, but to totally downplay my argument as if it was false, is just as asinine.
by Abstract NYC on Aug 22, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
How do you know they lack "drive"
Prove it
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
When a team..
Can play out in front, but can’t score from behind. What do you think that means?
by Abstract NYC on Aug 22, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Or explain..
How you can give Oliver Perez 7 runs, but Johan Santana 1 or 2?
by Abstract NYC on Aug 22, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
How can the Yankees score 20 one day and 1 the next
A new game has different results. The pitching can be better on one day, it’s not completely controlled by the hitters. Or maybe the hitters had a good day and then a bad day. Your argument is really retarded. This team just isn’t good right now, it has nothing to do with wanting it less than the other teams.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Thats irrelevant...
When the Mets play they give Johan no run support. Why is it a coincidence especially when Johan pitches. Are you telling me that the team doesn’t get complacent and it’s all because of the offense, and not the fact that they depend on Johan to pitch 1 run ball every outing?
by Abstract NYC on Aug 22, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Last 10 Johan Santana starts we scored
2 runs
4 runs
5 runs
7 runs
7 runs
4 runs
5 runs
4 runs
0 runs
3 runs
In four of those we scored 5+ runs three others 4 runs. That’s run support, not ridiculous, easy win run support but still solid. He’s been given on average 4.75 runs per 9 innings, second on the team to Pelfrey. But please, don’t let the facts get in the way of your argument.
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
Thats fantastic run support with this lineup
I have to say I’m shocked.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought the same thing
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
We're the kind of team that's lucky to score at all right now.
We have an offense rivaled only by Pittsburgh…It’s sad when you make the Giants look like murder’s row.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty Much
That should be the recap tomorrow
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 22, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Sullivan
batting for Valdez. That’s all you need to know about this lineup….
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions
Thole, Evans, Kunz expected to be called up in Sept.
by The 'Ropolitans on Aug 22, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions
Catcher Josh Thole, reliever Eddie Kunz and first baseman/outfielder Nick Evans are expected to highlight the call-ups when rosters expand in September, the Daily News has learned.
by The 'Ropolitans on Aug 22, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
THOLE!!
"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."
I'm glad about Evans and Kunz. I hope Bostick is up as well.
I’m on the fence with Thole…I just don’t want to get in a Murphy situation with him and end up with Omir as our everyday catcher next year.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's Omir or Bengie Molina.
Either way, the OBP battles will continue.
by The 'Ropolitans on Aug 22, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
everybody knows these guys aren't ready, just like Murph wasn't ready last year....
so this is a desperate attempt to raise the interest level over the last 5 weeks.
that said, I’ll look forward to watching Jerry screw them up and set them back a year.
lol
love the revisionist
“everyone knew murphy wasn’t ready”
by firejerrymanuel on Aug 22, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
There were plenty of doubters though...
I seem to remember lots of calls for Abreu, Dunn, and Manny.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't in the sign Manny camp,
But I was really hoping the Mets would target a guy like Abreu or Dunn, espescially when they were still available late in the offseason. I expected some regression, but I really can’t say I expected Murph to perform as poorly as he has.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 23, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Great
now I’m going to have to watch them in September
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 22, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Great Game
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm still
not understanding pulling Redding. Have to stick around for post game to hear that logic.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 22, 2009 10:31 PM EDT reply actions
He's just going to make up some crap
and laugh it off.He plays the media like a bunch of suckers
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 22, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Good game thread tonight
1000 comments in a meaningless game that Tim Redding started and we lost.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 22, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
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