Thole, Evans and Kunz to get September Call-Ups

Courtesy of Adam Rubin. Another day; another failure on behalf of the Mets. Kunz is the worst pitcher on the Buffalo staff this season.

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this means Thole will be added to the 40-man roster and can’t be plucked this winter the way Jesus Flores was a few years back. It’s a completely different situation, really, but the chance of Thole being left unprotected was greater than zero.

by Eric Simon on Aug 22, 2009 11:52 PM EDT reply actions

Shawn Bowman needs to be protected as well this winter.

I’d hope he’d get a look in September.

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 23, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions

At least Thole and Evans are (finally) getting promotions.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Aug 22, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions

more a failure "on the part of the Mets"

but the list isn’t necessarily exhaustive. Let’s see what happens.

Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa

by GenJackRipper on Aug 22, 2009 11:59 PM EDT reply actions

Both Thole and Evans better start most if not every game.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Aug 23, 2009 12:16 AM EDT reply actions

If they bring up Thole, he'd better be playing.

I’m fine with seeing Evans in a situational role.

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 23, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions

Evans/Murph platoon, perhaps?

I doubt it, but I also wouldn’t mind seeing how they do as a tandem.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Aug 23, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions

Eh

Not really, the EL season is only another week or two long anyway, so its not like he’d be playing if he wasn’t called up. The reason he should be playing isn’t so much concern over his development so much as to find out if he really is the best offensive catcher in the organization, which seems possible, if not likely.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Aug 23, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions

Evans in a situational role

Unless we’ve given up on him ever being anything but a lefty masher, I’d like to see him get ABs against RHPs too.

by JoshNY on Aug 23, 2009 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions

It might be reasonable to give up

It’s nice to see, after early struggles, that Evans has gotten back nearer to where he was a year ago. But at 23, it’s not really enough for him to get back to where he was at 22. If he were going to be a big leaguer, I would have expected to see him continue to progress.

Even at AA this year he only had an .817 OPS. At AAA he hit .204 with a .674 OPS. It just looks to me like he’s topping out. If he’s not yet a decent full time player at AAA, he’s not likely to be one in the majors. With a .620 OPS vs. RH pitching in AAA this year, and a .694 OPS vs RH pitching in AA, it’s pretty clear that giving him AB against RH pitching in MLB right now isn’t going to be very productive.

by acerimusdux on Aug 23, 2009 5:43 AM EDT up reply actions

He did have a ridiculously low BABIP early in the year.

I still think he could be a good backup or platoon guy.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Aug 23, 2009 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions

He also is ridculous against lefties

.341/.407/.512/.919 in 91 PA’s
Murphy is .273/.342/..404/.747 against righties in 482 PA’s

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by firejerrynow on Aug 23, 2009 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions

Evans certainly would have a case for a ML spot due to his performance vs lefties,

but keeping him in AAA at least gives him regular at bats. I think he’ll be a useful part going forward, if for nothing else than he’s a cheap part for the bench that can play a few different places.

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 23, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions

Agree

If he kept progressing, it looked like he had a chance to be a starter. I think he’s still a useful bench guy, and it will be good to have him up.

And, he is still somewhat young. Maybe not a real good future starter, but he could still be decent player by his peak at ages 26-28. Think of a guy like Nady who didn’t make the majors until age 24 and didn’t break an .800 OPS before age 28.

by acerimusdux on Aug 24, 2009 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions

Well the Kunz thing makes little sense, but the other 2 are good.

I was thinking they wouldn’t be smart enough to get Thole onto the 40 man roster and let he be Jesus Flores part II.

I would rather see Bostick called up than Kunz, but the other two sure should be here. Wouldn’t it be nice to see Thole be able replicate (to some degree) his contact ability against ML pitchers?

by Balagast on Aug 23, 2009 12:27 AM EDT reply actions

The Kunz thing is fine.

It’s not like we’re in a pennant race. What’s he going to do, lose us a game? We lose the majority of them anyway. I hope we call Bostick up as well, but having a ton of bodies in the bullpen isn’t going to hurt.

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 23, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions

So sad about Kunz

His upside is now as a groundball-inducing ROOGY. Bad pick.

by OlStubbleBeard on Aug 23, 2009 12:35 AM EDT reply actions

But what about the saves!

Won’t someone please think about the saves!

by Reg Dunlop on Aug 23, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions

Man, I hadn't realized Kunz had been that bad

5.25 FIP and a 4.91 ERA despite a .255 BABIP…oh well, he had a 3.03 FIP in AA last year and is only 23. Gotta hope for the best.

by Pat Andriola on Aug 23, 2009 1:38 AM EDT reply actions

Yeah he's been awful

The nicest thing you can say about him is he does have a crazy high HR/FB, so he’s probably not quite as awful as his Triple-A run rates suggest.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Aug 23, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions

been a ruff year for him

sorry, someone had to make that joke

by JoshNY on Aug 23, 2009 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

hahaha

Wow, I haven’t seen that one in a while. Thanks for the trip to the vault.

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by kingcritical on Aug 23, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions

Maybe he just takes a long time to develop.

Think about Todd Coffey, or

by Balagast on Aug 23, 2009 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions

i would

put murphy at third and keep wright on the dl, just to see if murphy can somehow hit again..then put evans at first for the rest of the season

"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even knew existed."
-Casey Stengel

by He'sGotPotential on Aug 23, 2009 1:55 AM EDT reply actions

If we leave Wright on the DL when he's healthy enough to play,

it’s not going to sit well with David. Do you really want to piss off the face of the franchise just to get Murphy and Evans in the lineup together? If Wright is healthy, let him play.

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 23, 2009 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions

I would be cautious though and maybe leave him out until mid September instead of September 1, just to be safe.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Aug 23, 2009 5:37 AM EDT up reply actions

Wright needs to come off the DL

Some of us are trying to win fantasy leagues.

by mets81 on Aug 23, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions

Yep, that really matters in the grand scheme of things.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Aug 23, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Haha

I’ve got him in the AA league, and coincidentally fell out of first place for the first time in months right after Wright went down. I bounced back a bit last night though, got back within 6 points of Gina just glad you guys left Mike Lowell out there :P.

Really pissed that I finally let myself drop Marmol, oh, five days before he was handed the closer gig though. That was irritating. Brandon Inge was just too tempting as a supplement for Mike Napoli, who Mike Scioscia needs to trust more. But alas, it was a luxury I did not need and should have ignored.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Aug 23, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Hey, you could be doing worse.

I drafted Peavy, Quentin, Hamilton, Doumit, Valverde, Chris Young (the pitcher), Ervin Santana, and Mike Aviles. I think I lead the league in games lost to injury.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Aug 23, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Ouch, that's rough

Most of those guys were preseason risks though. I had Quentin, Hamilton, Doumit, and Santana as guys I was trying to avoid unless they fell pretty far below their ADP.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Aug 23, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions

I didn't want Doumit.

My laptop froze up repeatedly during the draft trying to check Fangraphs, and it gave me a few guys I didn’t ask for. Doumit, Jose Guillen, Jose Lopez, Dicktorino. Okay, that one actually worked out.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Aug 23, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Fair enough

When was he going? Around the 10th? He actually seemed like a decent value there, but there was interesting catcher value earlier on.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Aug 23, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Yep, he went 10th.

To be honest, even if I’d gotten to make all of my picks, I doubt I’d be doing much better. I did intentionally take Quentin, Derrek Lee, Young, Aviles, Howie Kendrick, and Hong-Chi Kuo. I hope there’s enough interest to do another league next year; I really need to do better. At least I’m 3rd in my H2H league.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Aug 23, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Nice

I’d definitely be in for another league next year. The AA draft was honestly the first ever live draft I did. I did fantasy once before, but I couldn’t make the draft so it auto-drafted. It was a crappy MLB public points league anyway, still managed to win it too lol (it was back in 2007 and I managed to pick up BJ Upton, Ryan Braun, and Carlos Pena as free agents after the season started). This year I wound up doing another Yahoo public league after the AA league cause I was so happy with how the draft went, and I’m crushing that league, I literally haven’t been out of first place for more than a day or two since April.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Aug 23, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions

I drafted Quentin, Reyes, Delgado, Volquez, Webb, Doumit, and Ervin Santana.

Surprise surprise, I’m dead last.

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 23, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Ouch

Reyes, Volquez, and Webb were real fantasy killers.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Aug 23, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah they were...I had Chris Carpenter too, although I got him really late.

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 23, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Carp's been awesome

Whoever drafted him in the AA league dropped him when he got hurt, and I managed to pick him up as a FA and stash him on my DL for a few weeks, and he’s been huge since coming back. I have Wainwright too, but him I drafted. Plus Lincecum and Ted Lilly, I’ve managed to survive Cole Hamels’ brutal ERA enough so that he’s actually been a help in the other categories for the most part.

"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet

What a fool I was to defy him"

-HST

by Mark Himmelstein on Aug 23, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions

I traded Carp straight up for Mauer when nobody was sure when he was going to be playing this year

One of the few good things thats happened to my team this season.

"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green

by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 23, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions

I know

it was a joke.

The Mets should shut down anyone with positive value for 2010. They won’t, but they should.

by mets81 on Aug 23, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Adam Rubin Lobby

for Thole to get called up

by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 23, 2009 8:54 AM EDT reply actions

I hate the Mets

they announce this the day after I agreed to use my remaining Nationals coupons to by tickets to the Nats-Phillies series in a few weeks so a few of my friends would come down. I figured I had no reason to watch the Mets, now I do and I have no coupons left. Bastards.

by cjmulrain on Aug 23, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions