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David Wright!

This season seems longer than the others. Remember when we all got riled up about how stupid Steve Phillips was? Simpler times. Do you remember this?

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Omar Minaya, regarding the club's lack of an edge. I think he confused edge and leadership.

Judging by how the Mets performed in each of the past two Septembers, they do lack an edge, not completely, but they don't appear to be a team that handles adversity as well as it might.

-snip-

I have thought for two years that what Steve Phillips said Sunday is true -- that it is impossible, or least difficult, for David Wright to assert himself in a clubhouse of players who have more playing time than he does, players who were his "superiors" when he broke in. Even though Beltran is a quiet player with few conspicuous leadership qualities, and even though Delgado has stepped away from the leadership role, Wright defers to them.

(emphasis mine)

At the time, I thought this cliched analysis was funny and worth mocking. The Mets' general manager openly criticized his two best players for nothing. After Minaya recanted the statements under scrutiny, the previous general manager reiterated them on national TV. Then the beat writer on the Mets official website agreed with both of them. It was absurd, but David Wright knew the answer:

"The definition of edge is going out there and getting a few wins, and then all of a sudden you don't have to worry about anyone talking about edge anymore"

Then several key players left the team with injuries, and the Mets had real trouble getting "a few wins." If anything, one would think this painful season would instill the importance of good players. No, instead all success was attributed to a recently acquired bad rightfielder on a hot streak. Or it was, until Matt Cain's 94 MPH fastball hit David Wright square on the head. Then, Marty Noble was singing a different tune:

Wright runs when he's supposed to, speaks when spoken to, ducks fastballs but not issues, talks to the media after the most troubling losses, represents the Mets and other companies without misspeaking, stands for good and would have appeared on boxes of Wheaties had the Mets played in the 2006 World Series.

If that isn't leadership, it'll have to do till the real thing comes along.

Mets teammates now defer to him as Mets teammates once did to Tom Seaver, Keith Hernandez, Robin Ventura and Tom Glavine, as Wright did to Todd Zeile, Mike Piazza and Carlos Delgado. "Ask David" is an increasingly common suggestion in the clubhouse.

(emphasis mine)

When buying jerseys, I rarely go for the best player. I think it has to do with my need to find the most under-appreciated player on the team and compensate. I collected >500 Mike Piazza baseball cards growing up, but I never wore 31. I had a Robbie Alomar T-shirt jersey (I was 10 and we had just trade for him, no wisecracks). In 2007, I bought an Oliver Perez jersey. Granted, in between those two, I got a black Reyes-7, but never David Wright.

Another characteristic of my favorite players is that they have some exaggerated skill. I love Jack Cust, huge power but horrible contact ability. Same goes for Russel Branyan. Oliver Perez, at the time, was a good pitcher with great stuff and not-so-great control, like the Jack Cust of pitchers. I love Mark Ellis and Franklin Gutierrez for their defense, Jose Reyes for his speed.

David Wright has no exaggerated skill. He hits for average, but not like Ichiro or Pablo Sandoval. Before playing in the Grand Canyon, he hit for power, but not Piazza-power. He has good plate discipline, but still a pretty normal BB:K. His defense is good, but probably not gold-glove worthy. Wright does everything well, and the sum of the parts is an elite player, perhaps the most well-rounded in baseball. I take him for granted, but in the back of my mind I know he may be the best Met I ever see play.

Sadly it took him getting hit in the head with fastball, but the truth came out. David Wright had nothing to do with the Mets inability to reach the playoffs. Without David Wright, the Mets would have never sniffed a playoff birth, much less played deep into September for one.

Through the history of their franchise, the Mets have few homegrown superstars. They call Tom Seaver the franchise and David Wright is the first player to legitimately rival him since the Mets invented the Verducci Effect on Doc Gooden's arm.

When trying to write about the Mets as analyst, some things seem like a given. No one needs to prove how good David Wright is with numbers, but if we posted articles on this blog based on the merit of the player it would look more like:  David Wright!, David Wright Applesauce, The Five Best Things David Wright Did Yesterday, David Wright v. Cubs Gamethread, Johan/Jose/Carlos too, the other guys, David Wright!.

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Wait a second.

You were 10 in 2002, so you’re only 17 right now. Damn good writer for any age let alone 17.

Anyway, I miss rooting for David and it pisses me off when people say he’s not a leader, has no heart and all that other bullshit. It’s not even that all of those intangibles are a waste of time, but more that he is all of those thing in addition to being one of the 3 best players in baseball. No player should be untouchable, but last year when people were clamoring for someone, even him to be traded it was utter lunacy. He’s a spectacular player and one who’s easy to root for as well. I hope he’s a Met for his entire career, and when we win a World Series, it will be because of David.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Aug 27, 2009 6:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Ditto

Damn good for any age, let alone 17.

I’m impressed. And at 32, you’re making me feel old.

by dcmetsfan on Aug 27, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Holy Crap

is Sam Page 17? I think my understanding of baseball at 17 was a lot closer to Joe Morgan than it was to Fire Joe Morgan. I am impressed.

by dtro on Aug 27, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm 19 and at 17

I was just starting to grasp the concept of advanced stats in baseball analysis.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Aug 27, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

When I was 19

The Mets acquired Mike Piazza and signed him to a seven year contract. I remember being aggravated because, while I respected that Piazza was a good player, I didn’t think he was a “clutch player”.

I can’t believe I was so foolish.

by Reg Dunlop on Aug 27, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was 16 or 17 when they got Piazza, and I was pissed because I was a huge fan of Hundleys and they traded away Preston Wilson in the deal.

by Mark D on Aug 27, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

when i was 17

i smoked a lot of pot and hated baseball. how things have changed…

by englishgrey on Aug 27, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, Sam is 17?

Kids these days with their coherent writing and their thought-out analysis. GET OFF MY LAWN!

by JoshNY on Aug 27, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

2009

I definitely appreciate Wright more after this season. He does say and do all the right things. The leadership thing I’m still not sold on, but like the quote implied, if that’s the only thing he lacks, so be it.

Minor quibble with “Before playing in the Grand Canyon, he hit for power…” Wright has only 3 HR on the road in 2009 (12 in 2008), which is shocking no matter how you look at it. And, his SLG is actually higher at home than on the road.

by Mex_17 on Aug 27, 2009 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

his slugging his higher at home

because less PA’s at home. Same TB (100 at home 99 away)

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Aug 27, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel for you Sam

because I nearly bought a Perez shirt a couple of years back. He was entertaining as hell with the possibility of “putting it all together.” Glad I dodged that bullet.

by dtro on Aug 27, 2009 8:50 AM EDT reply actions  

He's easy on the eyes

Not that it helps his game, but in the greatest statistical game of all, Natural Selection, it sure doesn’t hurt.

phliadelphoe ite domum!

by Doc Manhattan on Aug 27, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Charles Darwin would be proud.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Aug 28, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to confess

all of the injuries are my fault. I was the unwitting pawn in a greater curse. I can’t tell you why just yet.

by TheBigStapler on Aug 27, 2009 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Intriguing...

Did you sell the Mets a plot of land over an Indian burial ground from which you only removed the headstones and not the bodies?

by blains2000 on Aug 27, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I second the complement of Evan S

Damn good writer for 17. One bijillion times better than Marty Noble. Sweet Jesus he sucks.

by pologroundling on Aug 27, 2009 9:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I feel like the sentiment of favoring

the underrated or the player with one great skill is pretty common in the baseball analysis community. The community’s figrative pants get tighter whenever there is a knuckleballer sighting. Of course with my Josh Thole pimping and Castillo support over the offseason, I’m also in the latter group but while I generally favor the underrated, I also love the athletes/people that are just clearly above everyone in their field.

In other words, while I’m totally down with the Custs of the world; I’m also all about Fedor Emelianenko, Albert Pujols, Akira Kurosawa, Manny Pacquiao, LeBron James, Miyamoto Musashi, and Warren Buffett.

PS My best friend owns only two Mets jerseys: Lastings and Ollie.

by Sokojoe on Aug 27, 2009 9:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Seven Samurai

is just full of win.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Aug 27, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

wright appreciation

in trying to convince my brother-in-law that wright is more valuable than ryan braun, i complied a list of his accomplishments over the last four seasons. the readers here are probably quite familiar with all these accomplishments, but since we’re appreciating wright, i thought a little recap of wright’s awesomeness would be nice.

*OPS above .900 in each season from 2005-2008
*BA above .300 in each season from 2004-2008
*26+ HRs in each season from 2005-2008
*110+ runs scored in 2007 and 2008
*Top 10 finish in RBIs (National League) in each season from 2005-2008 (2nd in NL in 2008 with 124 RBIs)
*15+ stolen bases in each season from 2005-2009 (34 SBs in 2007)
*40+ doubles in each season from 2005-2008

by englishgrey on Aug 27, 2009 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

He's a third basemen

and Braun’s an outfielder. they both put up comparable numbers, Wright’s are better even, but position alone makes him more valuable even if they were dead even offensively. Oh and Wright has been about an average fielder in his career, Braun is crappy.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Aug 27, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here just to make it simple

From 07-09 (So far) Braun has been worth 11.4 WAR and David 19.3 WAR. David is much better.

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Aug 27, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you think Braun > Wright

You probably can’t grasp the concept of WAR

You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.

by Kevin H on Aug 27, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

True

"We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people."

by Evan_S on Aug 27, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

I tried making the argument that 3B is inherently more valuable than an outfield, given equal offensive and defensive value, but he wasn’t really buying it. i didn’t even try explain WAR or UZR to him.

by englishgrey on Aug 27, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sam Page is 19

19 yr. olds shouldn’t even be allowed to have Casablanca-style cool names like Sam Page, let alone write (and think) like Sam Page.

Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa

by GenJackRipper on Aug 27, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Funny thing is

His real name is “Oswald Puttergrass”. Dirty little secret around these parts.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Aug 27, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

Hopefully there can be some sort of compromise here. Though Ozzie Puttergrass does sound more like a precocious statistics jock that Sam seems to be.

Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa

by GenJackRipper on Aug 27, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

pfft

I suppose next you’re going to tell us your real name isn’t “Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright” either.

by JoshNY on Aug 27, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

That name is real.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Aug 28, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

18

real name Oswald Cobblepot

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Aug 27, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

that’s Oswald CHESTERFIELD Cobblepot to you

by JoshNY on Aug 27, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have an Alomar shirt too!

I actually wore it to a game this year, since I thought it was fitting for the season they’re having. I don’t know how it still fits me, I was 11 when I got it.

by yellomellojello on Aug 27, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

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